₦airaland Forum

I thought the railway is still in the process of being built?

Ehh, just dey wait, train go come soon, maybe 10 years for now, maybe 20, but it dey come.

Man Nigerians are something else. What dont you get about FG contracts being a way to funnel money. Abi you think the Chinese are not corrupt? Even Halliburton an American Corporation, has gotten awarded contracts in Naija and jetted. You guys just dey live in a bubble

I mean lets see, how many Northern leaders have we had before Obasanjo. If there was real zoning the East or Delta region would be next. B4 Obasanjo we had Abacha, b4 Abacha we had Babangida. If zoning is to hold any water we should not have any Northern candidates for the next 5 elections Its funny how corrupt politics is washed to sound pleasant. They got rid of DOnald Duke because the North cannot wait to seize power after a meager 7 years and they call it "zoning". Sometimes the ridicolousness of our political system in Naija just blows my mind like Nirvana.

IF any country was getting the FREE WEAPONARY AND AID (Yes, billions in free money and weapons every fucking year from the US) that Israel was they would be a world power. All this bullshit of Israel being so great by their own doing is bullshit. And why should we as Nigerians even care about defending a racist, Apartheid state like Israel. Damn our people are something else.

Pakistan having nukes is quite alright but Iran isnt. Yeah. I see the logic behind that. Liek Pakistan doesnt have moslem fundamentalists like Iran. Like Our allies have never become our enemies and vice versa in relation to the United States. Like China wasnt a communist devil half a century ago and is now our biggest bussiness and trading partner and STILL COMMUNIST.

90% of American foreign policy and intervention is based on the prevailing fears concocted up by our warped minded politicians of the era. When they focus their attention on African nations liek Nigeria and the Niger Delta in another 20-30 years and nigeria becomes the next Iraq perhaps you all will be singing a different tune.

haha, since when has awarded contracts resulted in dramatically improved infrastructure. You guys do not know how Nigeria dey work oh. Awarded contract = avenue for money funnelling. A few dozen people in Taraba state and their associates and friends are going to be getting multimillion dollar deposits into their swiss accounts, that is all these FG contract entails.

Fools are still argiung Kano has more people than Lagos in this thread? ANyone arguing this should be deemed a Traitor as they obviously do not care about Nigeria as a country and are virulent Tribalists. There is no argument to be made that this Census is not ALL BULLSHIT. If we Nigerians are so foolish to believe and defend such bullshit, no wonder our politicians continue to horde billions in swiss banks while we continue to flee to the "First World" countries looking for a way to live. I swear sometimes I believe we people deserve living in our countries like dogs because we can be so fucking stupid as a people sometimes.

Instead of all this bullshit, you southerners should visit these northern cities. go to kaduna where i was born, go to zaria, kano, katsina, witness for yourself the lie that is the Northen States Census data

Dansmani and Ishmael, that NPC Nigerian census data shows the north being populated means what? Ever heard of FRAUD. You know, what most Northern presidents have been doing these bast 3 decades? If you think Kano is more populated than Lagos and you believe the farce that is the Nigerian census then you must be snorting Bleach laced with cinammon.

anyone who believes the census data concerning Northern states is a fool. Plain and simple. I am glad alot of Nigerians arent as gullible and stupid as we think and can see through bullshit like Ishmael who talks about Hausa women giving birth to 10 children on average. That is just rubbish. Ismael, are you even Nigerian? Have you ever been to kaduna or kano or jos or zaria because what you have said in this thread is mostly just trash. I am glad people arent buying it. Even DOnzman doesnt believe your BS analysis and statistics.

Kano. The place where women give birth to over 10 children per wife and they live till they are all over 100. It must be the Suya

Being born in Kaduna metropolis doesnt mean you know the entire northern nigeria. I have stayed in Ibadan for years and i do not claim toknow the entire southwest. Stop being stupid please. There is more to the north than staying somewhere in Kaduna!

Sannu Domme kake Zagi na?

Nawa Aboki, learn to read. I didnt say I know all of Nigeria. I said I have visted some of the so called populous metropolitan city and compared to Lagos they are not that populated. That is all. Abi you are going to say Kano is more populated than Lagos like your Aboki Ishmael?

shame on you

Ishamel we are not ignorant mallams. We do not buy your high fertility rate and geographical size of Kano dictating Kano has the largest population. Please. We are not mumus.

Ishmael, for you to try to say Kano is more populated than Lagos by saying Hausa wives have 10 children. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And who says the South has higher death rates. Where do you pull your figures from? Look at Satellite Imagery of Lagos vs Kano. Lagos's building and high rise density surpasses Kano's by several factors. And those villages surrounding so called "major cities" like Kano do not have millions in them. Please. I am not Hausa but I was born and raised in the North (Kaduna).

Ishmael should be a Nigerian government official. He would fit right in with the rest of the thugs, criminals and frausters that make up the Nigerian government.

Donzman is still quoting figures from Census data that says KANO IS MORE POPULATED THAN LAGOS

Look if they cannot even have the common sense to do some ojoro with some semblance of common sense instead of complete ojoro maybe the less intuned would buy it. But even you Donzman admit the Kano figures are BS. Why now say

(I see no reason why they'll use fake figures for these 2 states)

Ok. So they use real figures in some instances and fake figures in others. Cmon Donzman. Why would you try to defend a bullshit Census. The whole things is trash. And I have said this since day one. No matter wether you go by tribe or by headcount based on location the Hausas win.

the same people telling me and arguing with me about the 2006 census fraud are now saying it is ridiculous.

Yes. Kano has more people than Lagos. KANO. KANO?

Wow. Donzman. Wetin happen. Abi in the other thread you where disputing Nigeriaone's assertion the census figures where bullshit.

Kaduna has 6 million people? Where I was born? I was all over that state during my 12 years there back in the late 80s. Except there was a major influx of people to the tune of 5 million since then because in the 80s I doubt there where even up to a million people there at that time.

You guys really should visit the North. Drive around Kano, Jos, Zaria, Kaduna, these so called populous cities. You will be shocked. I can say this with 100% certainty because I was born and raised there and I am not a Hausa Moslem in whose best interest it is to perpetuate this lie.

But if we all want to believe Kano and Kaduna have over 5 million people and Kano is more populated than Kaduna go ahead. Frankly I am done with this discussion as it seems to fall on deaf ears.

I wonder how many cattles' horns where part of the head count this time around?D

I want to see how Israel apologists like Davidylan and co. will justify this.

Israel's people are Gods Chosen people? They can do what they want as they are blessed by God. Iran wants to bring the Holocaust to Israel? Israel has to defend itself from the New Nazis.

What is more fascinating about that news item is that Israel by making that statement have essentially officially admited what everyone has known for decades; Israel has nuclear weapons.

Infact our gateman when we lived in Magodo was a Fulani mallam.

That doesnt change my points. In Onitsha you are saying there are more Hausa and Fulani than Yorubas? Because that assertment I definately wouldnt buy.

Look they say this last census they did a headcount. Yet people where supposedely sent from the South back to their homes in the north for the census. If we are doing a headcount that is based on where people reside no matter their ethnicities why would they be going back to their hometowns to "beef up" the census data for their region? And why is it that no matter wether you count by ethnicity like in the past or we do headcounts the North has the most people. If that where truly the case then it would mean that both the North has a majority of the population AND that in the South when you tally Hausas and Fulani they are the majority of the population as well. Which just sounds silly.

And discarding Nigeriones assesements because he used Sattelite photos is silly when http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6217719.stm even the NPC SUPPOSEDELY USED SATTELITE PHOTOS TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY WOULD EVEN START COUNTING. THEY USED GPS SATELLITE PHOTOS AS REFERENCE POINTS FOR WHERE THEY WOULD COUNT.

You think Censi are done by just driving around bushes looking for people to count? There is a methodolgy and logistics involved.

I don't know about 60 million Hausa's but, many people of Northern origin who leave in the South travelled back to the North to be counted there during the census. I remember reading that truck loads of people where travelling to the North just before the census started.
That could explain why there would be more people than you see on your travels to Northern States.

I am sorry but in Yorubaland for example, Igbos probably outnumber Yorubas like 10 to 1 if not more. There are Hausas in Lagos but hardly any Northerners in places like Ibadan or Akure or places like Onitsha or Port Harcourt. Whatever you read sounds like a propaganda piece. I mean we need to be real about certain things. I am sure we can all agree that most people who live in the south that arent from the state/region they are living in are either Yoruba or Igbo. Infact in Lagos I have encountered more Fulani than Hausas during my 6 years living there and Hausas definately outnumber Fulani.

Let us forget what these Newspapers and so called official reports say, esp. in a country like Nigeria. If we could trust our officials to collect data and perform their functions most of us would not be looking for ways to stream over to Yank or Jand to look for opportunities.

who here will actually defend the census result that Hausas outnumber Igbos and Yorubas and are the largest ethnic group in Nigeria.

I would like people who are defending the ridicolous Census data to please prove and show where the 60 million (approximately 40% of 140 million) Hausas are residing? Because I was born and raised in Kaduna and travelled to many Northern states and cities like Sokoto, Kano, Zairia, etc and Quasi Northern States and cities like Jos and Kwara, and compared to Ondo, Oyo, Lagos, Benin, they where mostly sparse.

So who here thinks Nigeria has 60 million Hausas?

so what International law established Israel as a legitimate state, says it can build a wall around itself and expand its borders indefinately while laying land mines on its borders and the borders of its neighbors.

Why are we discussing International law like Israel actually FOLLOWS any International laws. Israel does whatever the mess it wants with US backing.

Not to mention any laws passed against Israel by the UN are vetoed by the US. But ofcourse 4play left that out in his discussion of UN resolutions.

4 Play so Un resolutions are non binding now? How can we even debate when you start to redefine well established facts

Donzman thanks for pointing that out. I guess the UN just passes resolutions for passing sake.

ok. What about the original British mandate establishing Israel and Palestine and setting the borders for both states. Israel has since expanded its boarders and setup new settlements. Or is the original mandate setting up Israel as a jewish state non binding as well (which would mean Israel is "non-binding" and has no right or basis to exist)?