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that is only a small part of a bigger problem that gives rise to such militants. And Flex, you just posted some more rubbish. And what has Houston got to do with Militants. Are you on crack? I drew a parrallel with IRAQ not houston dumbass. Last time I checked Iraq was in Asia, and Houston was in the US. You need to flex your brain bohboh and quit sounding like a slowpoke.

Learn how to write coherent sentences and make points because that diatribe you just spewed is utter garbage.

If what you said was the case every president and former presidents daughters and sons would be in harvard or yale and that isnt the case. Ofcourse Alumni status boosts your offsprings chances of admission but it is not the only factor idiot. And what has Johnson Sirleaf and what you posted got to do with the point I made that you do not need a western education to preside over a country. I didnt say people with degrees cannot rule a country, learn to read and digest and understand what I am stating in plain english before spewing horse dung my friend.

The Niger Delta situation is out of hand and will only be solved in time, the right plan to ending the conflict is to simply continue the work and continue giving the attention that the current administration is now giving, and in time the people of the Niger Delta will be seperated from the opinions of the militants therefore making it alright by alls point of view to attack by inhumane force to finally end the conflict, if the army were to do that now the people of Nigeria as a whole and the people of the delta would see it as an attack on their people and a plan that commenced simply for the sake of shutting up their people, the militants of the niger delta are speaking on behalf of the people of The Delta but they shouldn't be allowed to represent the people beacause, the real problem is not now about the Government and their negelction but about attending to the demands of the militants, they may claim to be for the good of their people but they are more interested in the release of Dokubo and filling their own pockets, New schools are been built in the delta and a multi million dollar hospital is scheduled to be constructed also a college is proposed to be vuilt so the current wave of violence is not due to negleaction but rather to the unnegotiatable needs of the militants

You sound exactly like GW Bush talking about the insurgency in Iraq. You think militants are just militants because they like to be militants? Obviously people like you do not understand the problems of that region and its peoples grievances.

and we say Nigeria is one

hahahaha, see yall in 30 years when Nigeria is the next major conflict zone and there is no longer a functional country. There is not one single country on this planet that has a major Moslem and Christain population concentrated in large regional lands that lives in peace.

the issue can never be solved but it can be put under controll by imposing tougher laws and puting men on patrol during critical times, Nigeria can become a America tomorow and will still have muslims killing Christians in the North and ViceVersa, the answer is controlling not brainwashing--------peace--------

what men? Igbos patrolling Northerners in Kaduna? Wa lai ta lai. That will never happen. You guys really do live in a fairyland. You know why countries like the US and other western countries succeed? Because they have a MAJOR CULTURE. People that emmigrate to those countries have to inculturate, they have to adopt some customs to survive and live within that country. The major culture is what holds those countries together. That doesnt exist in secterian countries like Nigeria. Nigeria should never have even been a country esp with differing religions which are more significant than ethnic differences believe it or not.

studying abroad for 1 year is not the same as living abroad for over 20 years, and GW BUSH wasn't that bright in school

Could you get into Yale or Harvard? Pfft. I didnt think so. At least he was smart enough to get in, unlike you. Even the dumbass in Yale is obviously pretty smart for him to get in in the first place, so to put him down like that is ridicolous. What school did YOU study at? I bet it wasnt Yale or Harvard or even close Prestige wise.

And you think living abroad for 20 years makes you special or entitles you to know how best to rule or govern a country. G.W. Bush has lived here in the US all his life, and he cannot govern or preside worth shit. Again, leadership has nothing to do with getting some formal western education or living in a western country.


Someone like Donald Duke has done good things for his hometown. But he will never be president as he is not a shrewd politician, he is a well meaning guy but he is like an MKO Abiola, he doesnt have what it takes to rule a country like Nigeria and doesnt have the right political connections. Plus he is from Calabar. We are not going to be seeing anyone from that region ruling as president anytime soon, a revolution will have to take place first.

And Diaspora is not a derogatory term, however it doesnt apply to Nigerians in foreign lands. Diaspora involves captivity like your example of the Jews, as well as present day African Americans. That is different from going to another land on your own will and choosing to adapt to another culture, that is very very different. Present day Nigerians in the US emmigrated here, we were not brought here by force, some choose to become "Oyinbo" or "Akata" and some choose to hold on to their cultural heritage and customs. None of those scenarios have anything to do with Diaspora.

Nigeria is truly one.

hahahahahahaha

Being Educated in the west doesnt mean you know how to govern. Look at GW Bush Jr. Went to the finest College in the land and he is running this country to the ground in many respects, foreign relations and civil liberties. Under his watch people are getting snatched off the street and tortured, habeas corpus has been suspended and he has increased executive power to almost the point of a monarch thanks to a latchkey congress. And less we forget lobbyists like Abramoff and the corruption and ties to the Bush admin and members of the Republican party in congress.

So no, being in Diaspora doesnt mean you know how to govern. A leader does not need to be technologically inclinded or be an economists. He needs to be a freaking LEADER. Look at Chavez in Venezuela, an uneducated man that has decreased poverty my 50% in his country, upped the number of people with healthcare, and is helping his fellow latin neighbors offset their debt to the IMF and other scam world trade organizations and financial institutions. He didnt need a fucking college degree to do that shit, he just has his heart in the right place.

All you so called Diaspora Nigerians (of which I am one) looking down on our fellow Motherland Nigerians are surely an ignorant bunch. You think getting a degree in governnment or engineering or science entitles you to some knowledge on running a country? Look at all the college grads that where appointed positions in Iraq to revive the stock market, or restore public waterworks after the Iraqi invasion, they all failed miserably because they where out of their element. You clowns need to educate yourself more on the world around you, knowledge doesnt just come from a college education.

All the Northern African Arab and Berber countries where colonized yet they consider themselves superior to Blacks and Ethopians. If the Portuguese or British or France had any interest in Ethiopoia they would have taken the country over very easily, the Italians where not formidable colonizers, hence their country being spared. In any case this is nothing new, a country in worse shape than Nigeria has people that need to feel superior in some way so look down on us, its part of the Eurocentric view on racial, ethnic, and cultural superiority and its pervasion in the whole world. They do dominante the whole world for the most part, ofcourse idiots and classless and ignorant people will do their best to conform to their ideals, I mean, even us Nigerians relax our perfectly beautiful hair to look European. No culture or country has been spared from such bullshit.

well the US was found on terrorists tactics and mass genocide yet people will lay down their life for this country and claim it was worth it. Even the formerly enslaved Negroes.

If Israel does not systematically exterminate every Arab state within its vicinity it will never have peace. At least america did it right and decimated the native indians from 40+ million to less than a mill. I mean lets face it, their bullshit invasion and bombing campaign didnt do shit in "rooting out hezbollah". A fucking monkey could have seen that such a tactic wouldnt work. Its like the Israeli government have the brains of deformed apes.
Right wing fascist government officials from Israel to the US to England are a dumb stupid bunch I tell you. And their supporters are even bigger morons.

I am sure the blockade of palestine is not simply for spiteful reasons, i am sure IDF tanks do not just roll into Gaza to kill indiscriminately, i am sure Isreal is not to blame for the poverty of ideas and economy that presently faces the Arabs in the middle east. If Isreal can turn her own part of the desert into such a flourishing land, the arabs have no excuse, rather than develop their own part all they want is to sieze all that Isreal has spent years constructing!
Those without any hope for the future is because their leaders do not plan for that future rather inculcate in their youth a culture of hate and intolerance!

Take an excerpt into the text books being read by those who you claim have no hope for the future thanks to Isreal!

Where can I signup for Ultra Fascist Zionism 101.

I suppose Lebanon is just a desert land right, Israel just bombed rocks and desert the last month right? Oh wait,

I posted about the interview of the Israelu reserve Army Officer who talked about Zionism propaganda he was taught in school. Both sides teach that bullshit. You Zionist spiel and bullshit propaganda above is just as bad as those fundamentalist militant moslems calling for Israels destruction.

to eveyone, i think this is a good summary of our arguments:

so why doesnt Israel go full throttle and level the region then, their predetermined airstrikes isnt doing shit, they know damn well they are not going to disarm hezbollah with the operation they are doing. They have the weapons to level their neighbors, if they are going to use force why dont they do it right? Do they think the Lebanese govt or the people will suddenly be like, "ok, enough is enough, here are all the Hezbollah, take them, your airstrikes are too much to bear" cuz that aint gonna happen

the solution is simple then, bomb all the surrounding arab countries with nukes, no more ant-Israel hating terrorist muslims, and peace to the region!

I mean what other alternative is there? We all know Israel can bomb Lebanon to the ground, Hezbollah will still exist, they blend into the civilian population and they do not just come out of nowhere, they come from and are recruited from the Lebanese population, they are also funded by Syria and Iran, if we bomb all those countries including Egypt, and all the Arab and moslem areas of the world, cart all the moslems in all Western countries and exterminate them, then problem solved! Why all this half assed bombings and silly ground incursions, Israel did it before and accomplished nothing, they still got rockets 10 years later, if you are gonna use barbaric force fucking do it right, all this half assed stupid air strikes arent doing shit, once they stop, the Lebanese will come back, rebuild the country and mor e Hezbollah will be recruited out of spite for the destruction of their country, and the cycle will continue again. Israel better do that before the Arab animals finally get a nuke and wipe Israel of the map like alot of Jews say Irans present has said. Then the converted to Judiasm Europea, sorry "Jews" can finally have peace.

the world sees Africa as a continent full of mineral resources with monkeys of all colors and intelligence and shapes running above and within them.0

you think Nigeria will ever be one country with patriotism when you have 3 large groups roughly with different religions, ethnicities and native languages? Only brute dictator like Saddam can hold the country like ours together, there is no clear majority or dominant culture in Nigeria, we have different groups with deifferent agendas and different beliefs. Nigeria was a fabrication of the British, it was never meant to be a country.

But anyway Nigeria is backward because its foundation is backward. There is no "first world" nation on this planet that has the kind of secterian divide that countries like Nigeria have. You cannot have the North majority moslem live with south and easter groups who are majority Christain, all with different ethnicities and cultures. A Nation needs a dominant culture and pride and nationalism that can never be derived from the mishmash of a country we have now.

that means france, india, pakistan, china and co are also superpowers right?

the reason US is a superpower today stems largely from their ecomomic strength. Russia has just as bad if not more nasty weapons than the US

when egypt and co invaded israel they didnt get nuked, israel beat them hands down in a conventional war, thats why they wont attack, israel will defeat them and they know it.

The US has not and CANNOT threaten to use nukes on NK if they don't listen, u know why? cuzz russia and china wd never ever stand for that.

@ nilla what is being used as a bargaining chip is economic weapons - food fuel, resources, thats why they are under sanctions

The difference is Russia has an arsenal that could wipe out the US, and the nuclear arsenal of India will never rival that of the US, and they could not take out the US like the US could take out India. Ofcourse the US will resort to lesser weapons like economic sanctions first, why use a nuke when there are other less dramatic avenues, if push comes to shove the US will use its nukes, the US knows damn well Iran isnt going to be getting nukes or weaponizing their uranium anytime soon thats why they are taking their time with economic sanctions and the likes, if they knew Iran would acquire weapons tommorrow they would nuke Iran, just look at Nagasaki. In the right circumstance the US will use its weapons. Giving it to allies doesnt mean they loose the edge, they still have the larger more sophisticate arsenal

pray tell how is the US using their nukes as a chip against NK? all they said is - we wont give u the oil you need, nor the technology or food aid they want if they continue weapons development, which they will sell to anybody regardless of intentions.

CMON dude, its implied, noone would take US assertions seriously if it wasnt for their military might, they would just go doing what their doing. The US is a superpower because they have the most devastating weapon known to man. When the US asserts they do not have to say we will use nukes on you if you do not listen, everyone knows the possibility is always there, and noone has forgotten about Nagasaki. And the same goes for Israel. Hezbollah use their pussy tactics because they know if they fought a conventional war they would be annihilated, and no Arab nation would dare invade Israel in this day and age because they would probably get nuked.

I guess what a former Israelu Air force pilot has to say on the matter warrants no response from "experts" such as yourself, yall probably know more about Israel and being a Jewish fighter than he does right? I love how yall sidestep and fail to respond or argue against things that you have no response for, and just keep on rehashing the same rhetoric.

Yes the former Israeli Pilots words have no bearance on the discussion at hand, just ignore what I quoted,

I said eliminate the financers and their businesses and the resistance would dry up

I wholeheartedly agree, the financers and bussinesses of such extremist groups should be destroyed. But is the answer to doing this what Israel is doing. Will that dry up the financiers? Iran is a financier. How is the bombardment of Lebanon going to dry up the financing of Iran. Does Israel move to Iran next then and carpet bomb them as well, then perhaps Syria as they finance Hezbollah as well, then maybe when those 3 nations are destroyed then the other sympathetic nations will find a reason to start financing Hezbollah as they will start to feel they are under attack, and then what, you bomb them too until there are not arabs or moslems left?

Look I am yoruba and my family is methodist christain. I am a black African. I lived and I was born in Kaduna, and I continue to proclaim that alot of the Northern region is backwards and needs to seperate religion from common law and society. My father, and Architect moved from Kaduna and packed up to his hometown of Isaleko because of sharia law and other anti-christain killings and attacks. I have no pre existing sympathy for Arabs of moslems in general. So when I talk about the Middle East it is with an objective and HUMAN view. Brute barbaric force never solves THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. We should not draw comparisons to WW2 or WW1 or the Korean war. The conflict between Israel and its neighbors is a unique one in this day and age, there are some similarities to past events but the answer to this problem is not what Israel is doing, their response will only create future Hezbollah. The Hausas that killed Ibos during those cartoons, they are certainly not the majority, Hezbollah are not the majority, the Israeli government are not the majority, there are alot of Israelis in Israel constantly shouting everyday, for Israel to stop its incursion and to work on peace, you just do not hear it in the mainstream media. Here is an example of a former IAF pilot who just couldnt take it anymore, called YONATAN SHAPIRA

Okay. In Israel, it’s quite obvious that if you are finishing your high school studies, you join the military. I was growing up in a family in military bases. My father was a squadron commander in the Yom Kippur War in 1973. And my dream was to be a pilot. So, for me it was obvious that I will achieve this dream and I will also contribute to the security of my country.

In history lessons, I didn't learn about the occupation. I learned those beautiful peace and bereavement songs. I learned about the beautiful values, about democracy, peace, justice, equality, freedom, and it took me many years to figure out and to know that at the same time that I was sitting in the classroom in school, learning all those beautiful values, my country, my military, was occupying and oppressing millions of Palestinians, millions of people that were living without all those beautiful values. We have so-called democracy for Jewish people or for Palestinians who are living within the 1967 border. But if you live in the Occupied Territories, it's completely apartheid.

AMY GOODMAN: How did you come to this realization?

YONATAN SHAPIRA: You know, it's a long, long process. And during this process, you suffer. You find out things that you do not want to believe. But if I have to point to a few events that really helped me to wake up and to connect all those threads to one understanding that I must say no publicly, not just going out and not participating in something, but also standing and shouting, “We will not be part of it anymore!” I can refer to two events that happened back in 2002. It was in the middle of the Second Intifada, Al-Aqsa.

The first event I was participating in, I flew a Black Hawk helicopter, and I was called. I was the first helicopter to come to a place where a terror attack took place and many Jewish kids, many Israelis were injured severely, and I flew them with a Black Hawk to a hospital in the center of Israel next to Tel Aviv. And all the helicopter was full of blood, and the paramedics and doctors tried to work on the patients. And while I was landing in the hospital, I saw underneath a wedding and people were celebrating with the chupa, and the groom --

AMY GOODMAN: This was an Israeli wedding?

YONATAN SHAPIRA: It was an Israeli wedding, and I was completely shocked: how can people be so much disconnected to reality?

AMY GOODMAN: And the kids, how had they been hurt?

YONATAN SHAPIRA: They had been hurt severely by a Palestinian fighter who got in their house and shot all the family. And maybe I will mention something that it's important. I am very much involved in the giving of support to terror victims in the Israeli side. I was volunteering in an organization named SELAH, which is the Israeli Crisis and Management Center. I saw a lot of suffering of my people.

And what happened a few weeks later after this event when I brought these children to hospital is that the commander of the Air Force and the government decided to assassinate the leader of the Hamas in Gaza Strip, Salah Shahade. And they ordered a F-16 with a one-ton bomb, that shot -- that dropped this bomb on the house of the Hamas leader in Gaza Strip, killing with him 14 innocent civilians, 14 innocent people, including nine babies. And although I didn’t drop this bomb and I didn't shoot in my life anyone, but I felt that this, me being part of this system that is causing this harm and this suffering and this killing to innocent people, it's just the same like being a terrorist in another organization. And those kids who were killed by my fellow pilots and these kids that were killed by this Palestinian fighter are just the same.

And it took me a while to understand that not just these guys down in the wedding were disconnected to reality, but also in the cockpit here inside me was a lot of ignorance, a lot of things that I didn't know. And then you start to figure out and to learn and to find out all this half-side history lesson that you didn't get. And I realized that in order to change and not just to find a solution for myself, for my soul, for my being able to live with myself, I have to do something publicly. And I went from one pilot to another, used my connection to the Israeli Air Force military by, you know, people knew my father and I lived in a neighborhood with a lot of pilots, and I found more than a hundred pilots that agreed to cooperate by being silent about that. Just a few of them agreed to sign the petition that I wrote.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean, “being silent”?

YONATAN SHAPIRA: It took us about three to four months to recruit all these co-signers on this letter. When you want to do something that will be strong enough, that will shake the Israeli public opinion and the government and the military, you want to find not just one or two pilots who are willing to refuse. So we found brigadier generals, colonels, Air Force squadron commanders, Apache pilots, F-16, F-15, Cobra, all kind of squadrons from the Israeli Air Force, and all these guys agreed to keep silent while some of us are willing also to put their names on this petition and to refuse publicly.

And as a result of this petition, there was a big uproar in Israel, and all the signers were called to an interview with the commander of the Air Force, General Halutz, who is now the commander of the Army who is actually leading these criminal attacks on Lebanon. And in this interview with him, he told me that he's going to discharge me from being a pilot in the Air Force, and I told him that actually I’m willing to be charged by him. Don't just discharge me, but charge us all in charge of refusing to legal orders, because we are willing to sit in jail if they can show in court that these orders of killing suspects and, by that, killing innocent civilians, is legal. And, of course, they preferred just to let us go, and no one of us was in prison.

And since then, many of us became very active in the anti-occupation movement and in the anti-apartheid movement in Israel. And that's why I’m here today talking to the American people, talking to the Jewish community, trying to convince them that it's us who have to lead these demonstrations around the world. It's us Jewish people and Israelis and former fighters, former combatants that took part in these wars, to lead these demonstrations who call for international pressure, who call for sanctions against the Israeli government who is doing these cruel things and brutal things in Lebanon. It will harm us Israelis, it will harm us Jewish people, if you will not wake up now, because it will not continue forever, and someone has to put an end to this.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/24/1439247&mode=thread&tid=25

I urge everyone here to read that interview.

You tell me what he is saying isn't reasonable and humane. He is a former Israeli pilot, he has defended his country and he knows more about being a Jew in Israel than anyone on this forum or on this post. Tell me there is anything extreme or terrorist about his proposal. His suggestions are simply the humane AND commonsensical thing to do giving the history and region of the place. He can see the common humanity that the majority of human beings, no matter the religion or race and what drives each side to do what they do and affect the masses the way they do.

so you agree we should nuke the whole region, including Muslim territories like the Northern states. Afterall if we are going to use force why not do it right? All these silly air strikes and bombs are just prolonging things, just nuke the whole region. The barbarians will never stop their terrorist activities and will never stop recruiting so lets just use nukes on the whole region then.

cynical barbarism if that's what you want to call it, If you want to make an omlette you gotta break some eggs.

its ok as long as you do not become the egg right?

You guys know one of the places the considered settling the European Jews was in present day Uganda? Europeans had no problem rellocating Jews as long as it was not in their lands. What would you Africans be saying then if there where fights and conflicts because Israel was in the midst of other African nations. Would you still advocate the US bombing the barbaric African nations? Because that is how they see us Africans. Would you suggest a solution to the fighting in the Congo from Rwandan rebels is to just nuke the whole region, afterall millions die there each year for the past decades.

Zebudaya, when A FEW Hausas started killing Easterners after the cartoon, if the Ibos had nukes I guess it would have been alright for them to level the Northern States for being such barbarians, afterall those killings had ZERO justifications as Ibos did not even make those cartoons and what they did by killing Ibos and the killings due to Sharia law is tantamount to terrorism.

Please, a little common sense here

when the guy who finances them lives among the population and its memebers are bred from the population then what? You think Israel bombing Lebanon till the whole country is levelled will destroy Hezbollah? Even if they kill every Hezbollah member (which they cant and they havent) you think a new Hezbollah will not come about? It will be a never ending war, full of skirmishes and reinvasions till the end of time. Is that what you propose. Just cyclical Barbarism basically?

I guess the solution is for Israel to use nukes and wipeout all its arab neighbors like the Americans did in the wars that eliminated the Native Indians, why work for peace, why don't you Bible Fearing Christians just say it in plain terms, genocide is the answer isnt it? Thats how to solve the problem. Because there will be another hezbollah and hamas and other groups as long as Israel exists and expands and continues its practiceses in not wanting a sperate Palestinian state and settling the greivances with its neighbors. I mean we can all agree that the Arabs will not just stay still and take what Israel dishes out, so why not just wipe out all of them off the face of the planet, problem solved right?

Would it be ok for American Indians to rise up today to say they want to use force to drive out all the European and African immigrants that now regard themselves as Americans?

Well land is taken and fought over all through history . Americans could battle them and perhaps American Indians could commit the same genocide that European settlers did to reclaim back their land. Would that be the best solution? Wouldnt the best solution be to have both live side by side even though the American Indians where her prior? Is that not the decent and peaceful thing to do, to coorperate and share? Instead of the barbarism of war and civilian casualties and never ending fighting. There are only 3 situations to conflicts like these

1. One side essentially gets wiped out (like the Native Indians) or marginalized through genocide
2. Never ending fights
3. A Truce is called and land is shared

that is it. I think the first two are unacceptable and barbaric and serve noone and create never ending animosity. If the American Indians rose up today and started killing Americans it would not be a matter of morality or justifications, each side would be guilty of something, afterall American ancestors did commit atrocities against those people even though the Indians of today would be killing people that had nothing to do with prior crimes commited on Native Indian ancestors. Reparations, equal treatment and fairness is the only way to go for peace and the death of animosity between groups and that requires diplomacy not war.

I grow weary of you, little man. i really have no time for your childish games. Keep spewing your insults at me, i'm unfazed.
Perhaps i should feel honoured when you call me names like 'idiot' and 'slowpoke' consideing the fact that u're using the same words u use to address your parents, doubtlessly.
If you claim your insults are a direct response to mine, you'd notice that i apologized for ANY and ALL strong words i used a few posts down. If reading english is your problm, i can probably dig out an old copy of Queen Primer for you to peruse.
For the last time, do not seek me out, creepy-crawlie. I'm here to discuss my views ina logical manner, not to get caught up ina time wsting argument with a wastepipe like you.

Quote from: kaecy5 on Today at 04:30:38 AM

Ahahaha, this clown hasn't countered one fact I put up, not one, all you regress to is pathetic insults about how I address my parents, when you can actually respond to the arguments and facts I put up, respond, but obviously you cannot and just keep on going on the same rant and rehash you have done since this thread opened, I am done with your dumbass really, when someone puts up a valid argument this is your response

For the last time, do not seek me out, creepy-crawlie

ahahaha, great logical counter argument there buddy.

And someone like your dumbass shouldnt start any "pet projects" in Nigeria, you will just do more harm to the country. You obviously lack the basic mental faculties to accomplish anything productive in a simlpe discussion thread let alone a country, so its good you stopped trying while you where ahead.

Historical ,archaeological ,cultural and other numerous ties show that Israel as a nation existed with the capital at JERUSALEM . The DAVID and SOLOMONIC kingdoms, JUDEA and SAMARIA attests to this fact. The land of Israel was situated in a location also known as caanan.

Most of the Jews that are now resettling in Israel are Ashkenazi Jews (East Eureopean in origin, converted to Judaism in the 10th century during the Byzantine era, read the 13th Tribe for more info) of the not the Indegenous Jews of earlier times that are spread all around the middle east and actually are descendants of people of that time and makeup about 7-8% of the current Israeli state. Also no matter the descendant history of the region the fact is when the Jews resettled the area known as Israel there where people there, you have to make accomodations and do it peacefully. You cannot just force people out under seige it is illegal under International law and its just common sense morallity. If the Fulanis or Hausas got scripts and historical proof saying everywhere the Igbos and Yorubas currently reside was once their land and part of an ancient empire you think they would be justified in coming into our lands and squeezing us out and creating ghettos and concentration camps and squeezing millions of people into unhabitable and barren land. Bleep that, as a Yoruba man I would fight that expansion to the death. And I would be justified in doing so.