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Women of African descent perm their hair to make it look more European.

There is a difference between perming your hair and washing and shampooing your hair (cleanliness) than using industrial chemicals to straighten ones hair. To equate perming ones hair to being well kept just shows the prejudice you have against black hair. Getting a haircut IS different from relaxing your hair. White people can grow out their hair and make it just as unkept as any black person, that is very different from relaxing ones hair so it has the texture of a white person.

ThiefOfHearts I'm ashamed ou would say what you said. And I find wearing wigs just as bad. Especially when they are blonde and brown etc. Its not your natural hair.

You and Mcshaka can go around looking like people who just escaped the asylum together.

I know, afterall our hair is just like monkeys until we perm them.

Thank you for reconfirming what white people have been saying for half a millenia.

David, looting treasury is a breach of trust and it carries prison sentence while Stealing a cow is theft and is punishable with amputation

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Oh My God. THis is what I have been talking about. This is a huge part of the problem in Nigeria. Let us kill the mallam trying to stake a living in poverty and reward the "mismanager" of the countries funds.

Sunni Islam is the most retrogresive religion yet.

Rat Stew? That must be a joke. Noone eats Rat in Nigeria.

It has been shown that the largest immigrants in the United States emmigrating to America that have and get degrees in the US are Nigerians (and are Southern, Ofcourse ).

Ofcourse that is something positive about Nigerians not Nigeria.

Kaduna. Especially during Sallah. Or Ramadan.

Israelis commit terrorist acts everyday killing Palestinian children just as Palestinians commit terrorist acts by blowing up people in suicide bombings.

Logical is the only one in this whole thread that has made any sense. Christain nations like the US to this day commit acts of terrorism in the guise of nation states. Just look at the US in Iraq. Thats terrorism. Or what it plans to do in Iran. Terrorism isnt just religious based.

It wasn't modern science that caused these atrocities.

It cetainly was Modern science that led to these atrocities. If King Leopold did not want to extract rubber he would not have subjugated millions of Congolese. Science doesnt occur in a vaccum and is always applied like you said for technological purposes. Science and Technology fused with raw capitalism, IMHO, is responsible for the atrocities you Europeans have perpetuated for the past half millenia. What good is the science of extracting and refining rubber to make material goods if it cannot be put to good use or cannot be applied technologically? Science has to be applied, scientists do not make discoveries for the sake of making discoveries. The Atom bomb wasnt created to understand the complexities of nuclear fission. Einstein figured that out pretty quickly afterwards and regretted his contribution to that field of study.

We should just wonder what the balance of the good and the bad is. I tend to think the bad outweighs the good and even if religion were to cause people to be more moral (a statement that is not supported by any data), that still wouldn't say anything about whether or not the claims of religion are true. Delusions stay delusions, regardless of their utility.

And I would argue that the APPLICATIOn of science, much like the application or practice of Religion, has led to way WAY more and evil atrocities than religion in the last 500 years. The science of processing sugar and cotton justified carting Africans like chattel with zero empathy my thousands of Europeans. Ot say the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Science had little to do with the justification. Technology, a derivate of science, not science itself allowed far more efficiency in whatever people wanted to do, whether good or evil.

Thats just silly. the Science of internal combustion which leads to efficieny of automobiles is destroying our planet by increasing CO2 emmissions leading to global warming. The Science itself allowed efficiency in one aspect while destroying another aspect. Peoples blind faith in Science is what causes crap like global warming. A narrow and focused attention on a simple task at hand without trying to understand its ramifications. Sure the science in of itself isnt the cause but it leads to or can lead to disaster in alot of cases.

These questions are too specific to answer. What drives an individual to do something is too multi-faceted to give a correct anwer to. Only on an aggregate level can this kind of behaviour be studied.

Yes it is tooo multifaceted, and my point is science will never explain all facets, as the human being and our world cannot just be explained in totality by science. As you said even people way smarter than you subscribe to this thought.

David as you should know I am against all forms of religious fundmanetalism and extremism including Islam. As you have shown there are not alot of examples of moderate Islam, Lebanon is one of the few examples of this though it has its extremist elements.

But make no mistake, just as there are fundamentalist christians there are fundamentalist jews. The fact is Israel and its government practice the same tactics of terror the palestinians do. They kill children, routenly participate in unwarranted bombings and home incursions and practice Apartheid policies. This is all predicated on the fact that they are ILLEGALLY, against international and un sanctions, expanding the state of Israel on a premise of religious fanatacism of a "greater Israel" Israel as a government commits as much crimes and has killed more families and holds more Palestinians prisoner than any other nation in the 21st century and has broken more UN resolutions than any other nation. The fact that the Palestinians respond with suicide bombings does not excuse the evils of Israel's actions over the years and your blind support for such a religious state (which is as bad and ethnic as the UAE) is worrisome.

if you think the problems of Nigeria stem from corruption then you do not have any historical perspective on the "country" known as Nigeria.

I bet if you where president you would start to fight corruption to fix the country right? Just like GW Bush thinks terrorism is something to be fought.

Fact is kid, that for years Nigerian society has come to believe corruption is normal part of life. And majority of Nigerians have participated in it. From the simple N50 given to policemen on the streets to higher level corruption. Nigerians attitude is, if I don't do it, someone else will. Or if I don't give the police money, I could end up dead. This is not the case in the west. This is elementary. If you cannot understand this, then oh dear.

That isnt corruption that is survival. People do not bribe police because they are corrupt they do it to survuve the next day.

The reason I don't believe in God is simply because there is absolutely no evidence pointing in the direction of the existence of a god.
I tend to argue about the existence of Gods for a couple of reasons. What really catches my interest is the fact that many intelligent people, quite a lot of whom are far more intelligent than I am, believe in God, even though it flies in the face of rationality, both on empirical as on epistemological grounds. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to align on the one hand belief in a deity and on the other hand apply rational considerations to most other aspects of life. Religious apologetics isn't really rational, but only a weak form rationalisation; the question those apologetics should ask themselves is not whether or not their religious dogma can be aligned with the findings of modern science, but rather whether or not their interpretation of the facts is the most probable and reasonable among all possible explanations for the same facts. Ockham's razor should be rigorously applied to all possible explanations of the facts.

As the evidence is lacking, the only basis for god-belief is faith, which, by it's very essence, i.e. belief without evidence or in spite of contrary evidence, sets itself apart from reason. You cannot arrive at truth without basing yourself on rationality, because without rationality, truth itself becomes a concept without meaning. Once you accept that way of thinking as respectable, you effectively open the floodgates to all kinds of religiously motivated lunacy, as the essence of that lunacy cannot be questioned. Faith does not deserve respect because it fosters uncritical, unquestioning obedience to dogma.

The main reason why I argue against theistic beliefs is that the attitude of belief without evidence can - and regularly does - have some very nasty and undesirable side-effects. It is a mode of thinking that prevents honest inquiry and dissociates beliefs from their consequences, especially for those not agreeing with a specific religious worldview. The terrorists flying those planes in the WTC on 9-11 truly and honestly believed they were doing God's will. Even the moderately religious demand respect for faith, thereby creating a fertile breeding ground for the religious fanatics and lunatics.

Obviously modern science is not the end all and be all of our existance on earth and even Einstein believed in a God though not of the form most christains for example subscribe to. Human beings all through history have always needed more than science and technology to define and ascribe meaning to our lives. Science does not speak to how your fellow man should be treated, nor does it create laws or define morality within our society. Just as the zealots crashed planes in the WTC on faith, others have done numerous good things on faith, such as Desmond Tutu's actions leading in part to the liberation of SOuth Africans from the racist Dutch Afrikaans.

Modern Science allowed rubber to be extracted by King Leopold in the belgian congo while millions where killed. Just as Religious faith has created evil in the world, so has technology and modern science been used to justify the killings on millions.

Science can never prove to us empirically that we have to treat our fellow human beings justly because science anwsers questions about physical occurences in nature. You think science will ever answer why hitler killed 6 million jews or why King Leopold's rule led the the extermination of millions of Congolese all in the name of profit?