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@alBHAGDADI will start quoting blindly from the Holy Qur'an now to console himself.

@alBHAGDADI

Is Ishmael not elder brother to Isaac again, albeit from a different mother?

Please answer that.

Don't run away from the truth, it will set you free.

"…But we gave her glad tidings of Isaac, and after him, of Jacob." (Quran 11:71)

Show me where the Quran said such. - alBHAGDADI

Answer:

I showed you but you ignored it. I cautioned you that it is for the deep sighted but you still have yet to comprehend.

Again:

Allahu ta'ala told Abraham (a.s) wife, Hajar Sarah, of the coming of Isaac, and of Jacob, the son of Isaac. The perfection in the Holy Qur'an is that it mentioned Jacob also in this verse. If Isaac was to be sacrificed, it would have been an open contradiction from the holy Qur'an, because it is not possible to command Isaac to be sacrificed when it is already revealed prior that he will be the one to beget Jacob.

So from the Holy Qur'an (and Bible). There is ONLY one possibility, ISHMAEL.

Abraham Sacrifices His Son
It had been close to ten years since Abraham had left his wife and baby in Mecca in the care of God. After a two month journey, he was surprised to find Mecca a lot different than how he had left it. The joy of reunion was soon interrupted by a vision which was to be the ultimate test of his faith. God commanded Abraham through a dream to sacrifice his son, the son he had had after years of prayers and had just met after a decade of separation.

We know from the Quran that the child to be sacrificed was Ishmael, as God, when giving the glad tidings of the birth of Isaac to Abraham and Sarah, also gave the glad tidings of a grandson, Jacob (Israel):

"…But we gave her glad tidings of Isaac, and after him, of Jacob." (Quran 11:71)

Similarly, in the biblical verse Genesis 17:19, Abraham was promised:

"Your wife Sarah shall bear you a son whose name shall be Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant [and] with his seed after him."

Because God promised to give Sarah a child from Abraham and grandchildren from that child, it is neither logically nor practically possible for God to command Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, since God neither breaks his promise, nor is He the "author of confusion."

(Get that? This is part of the indepth wisdom of the Holy Quran, Allahu ta'ala would not have mentioned the grandson after the son, when the son was meant to be sacrificed)

Although Isaac’s name is explicitly mention as the one who was to be sacrificed in Genesis 22:2, we learn from other Biblical contexts that it is clear interpolation, and the one to be slaughtered was Ishmael.

"Thine Only Son"
In the verses of Genesis 22, God commands Abraham to sacrifice his only son. As all scholars of Islam, Judaism and Christianity agree, Ishmael was born before Isaac. From this, it would not be fit to call Isaac the only son of Abraham.

It is true that Judeo-Christian a scholars often argue that since Ishmael was born to a concubine, he is not a legitimate son. However, we have already mentioned earlier that according to Judaism itself, the gifting of concubines from barren wives to their husbands in order to produce offspring was a common, valid and acceptable occurrence, and the child produced by the concubine would be claimed by the wife of the father[1], enjoying all rights as her, the wife’s, own child, including inheritance. Furthermore, they would receive a double the share of other children, even if they were "hated"[2].

In addition to this, it is inferred in the Bible that Sarah herself would regard a child born to Hagar as a rightful heir. Knowing that Abraham had been promised that his seed would fill the land between the Nile and the Euphrates (Genesis 15:18) from his own body (Genesis 15:4), she offered Hagar to Abraham in order that she be the means to fulfill this prophecy. She said,

"Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her." (Genesis 16:2)

This is also similar to Leah and Rachel, the wives of Jacob son of Isaac, giving their maids to Jacob to produce offspring (Genesis 30:3, 6. 7, 9-13). Their children were Dan, Nepthali, Gad and Asher, who were from the twelve sons of Jacob, the fathers of the twelve tribes of Israelites, and therefore valid heirs[3].

From this, we understand that Sarah believed that a child born to Hagar would be a fulfillment of the prophecy given to Abraham, and be as if he was born to her own self. Thus, according to this fact alone, Ishmael is not illegitimate, but a rightful heir.

God Himself regards Ishmael as a valid heir, for, in numerous places, the Bible mentions that Ishmael is a "seed" of Abraham. For example, in Genesis 21:13:

"And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

There are many other reasons which prove that it was Ishmael and not Isaac who was to be sacrificed, and God willing, a separate article will be dedicated to this issue.

To continue with the account, Abraham consulted his son to see if he understood what he was commanded by God,

"So We gave him the good news of a forbearing son. And when (his son) was old enough to help in his daily affairs, (Abraham) said: O my dear son, I have seen in a dream that I must sacrifice you. So look, what think you? He said: O my father! Do that which you are commanded. God willing, you shall find me of the patient." (Quran 37:101-102)

Indeed if a person was told by their father that they were to be killed due to a dream, it would not be taken in the best of manners. One may doubt the dream as well as the sanity of the person, but Ishmael knew the station of his father. The pious son of a pious father was committed to submit to God. Abraham took his son to the place where he was to be sacrificed and laid him face down. For this reason, God has described them in the most beautiful of words, painting a picture of the essence of submission; one which brings tears to the eyes:

"And when they both submitted (to the command of God), and he (Abraham) laid him (Ishmael) face down upon his forehead (in order to be sacrificed)." (Quran 37:103)

Just as Abraham’s knife was poised to descend, a voice stopped him

"We called to him: O Abraham: You have indeed fulfilled the vision. Lo! Thus do We reward the good. Lo! That verily was a clear test." (Quran 37:104-106)

Indeed, it was the greatest test of all, the sacrificing of his only child, one born to him after he had reached an old age and years of longing for progeny. Here, Abraham showed his willingness to sacrifice all his belongings for God, and for this reason, he was designated a leader of all humanity, one whom God blessed with a progeny of Prophets.

"And when his God tested Abraham with various commands, and he proved true to each one." He (God) said, indeed I have made you a leader of humanity. He (Abraham) said (requesting of God), ‘and from my progeny." (Quran 2:124)

Ishmael was ransomed with a ram,

‘…then We redeemed him with a momentous sacrifice.’ (Quran 37:107)

It is this epitome of submission and trust in God which hundreds of millions of Muslims reenact every year during the days of Hajj, a day called Yawm-un-Nahr – The Day of Sacrifice, or Eid-ul-Adhaa - or the Celebration of Sacrifice.

Abraham returned to Palestine, and upon doing so, he was visited by angels who give him and Sarah the good news of a son, Isaac,

"Lo! We bring you good tidings of a boy possessing wisdom." (Quran 15:53)

It is at this time that he is also told about the destruction of the people of Lot.

Source:
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/298/story-of-abraham-part-6/

@proudlyYoruba

May Allahu ta'ala bless you and purify your intentions and actions.

Figurative Sense Of The Ayat
To start with the ayat was expressed from the onset in a figurative, that is, not in a literal one, and the understanding should remain at that.

Quran 5 64
And the Jews said, "Allah's hand is fettered." Fettered are their own hands, and cursed are they for what they said. In fact, His hands are well-extended.
He gives as He wills.
- Ma'ariful Qur'an

It is just like the saying among the English people that someone is "tight fisted" for being miserly. This does not refer to the literal hand of the person now.

Also, scholars have pointed out the verse of the Holy Qur'an

...in whose hand lies the marriage tie - Quran 2:237

as another example where 'hand' has been used figuratively.


The Phrase Proper

Nay
His hands
Are spread out

The word "BOTH" or an arabic form of noun that indicates "two" is not present in the phrase. This is what I mentioned to you previously that what you have is an interpretation that is carried into the translation: Again, when we say "his hands" automatically we default our thought process to "two". But this is a language default because it is an assumption based on the fact that humans have two hands. However, when the One being referred to is Allahu ta'ala, then you need to take a pause here because the One being referred to is not human or human-like. This caution that is taken when Allahu ta'ala is being referred to is a commmandment that must be obeyed.

The Holy Qur'an clearly commands:

"There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him." - (Qur'an 42:11)

"And there is none like unto Him." (Qur'an 112: 4)

"...and they do not encompass Him in (their) knowledge". 20 110

Moreover clearly commanded ayats take precedence over ayats that need interpretation and many such interpretations can easily be gotten wrong.

He [Allah] is the One who has revealed to you the Book [the Qur'an]. Out of it there are verses that are muhkamat [of established meaning], which are the principal verses of the Book, and some others are mutashabihat [whose definite meanings are unknown]. Now those who have perversity in their hearts go after the mutashabih of it, seeking [to create] discord, and searching for its interpretation [that meets their desires], while no one knows its interpretation except Allah; and those well-grounded in knowledge say: We believe therein; all is from our Lord. Only the men of understanding observe the advice.
- Qur'an 3:7

My reply to you comes after Ramadan inshaAllah. May Allah preserve us beyond then, Amin.

But bear in mind that you are wrong.

LOL 'in details', that was cryptic from @ikupakuti. Was looking out for a concrete experience.

Laahia lau.

@Empiree
I remained at home today due to the holiday which I didn't take into view when I replied you yesterday. I shall def watch them tomorrow inshaAllah.

The term 'tahaduth' was added quietly above and now you guys are using it upandan without carrying others along (speaking for myself). Please explain me!

Without any intentions to stir the hornet's nest, please look at the narrations that specifically addressed #taraweeh and the consensus practice of the sahaba, radiyAllahu anhum.

Thanks @Empiree
I shall watch them tomorrow inshaAllah over a better internet connection. They should make for a good Ramadan companion.
Thanks once again.

@EmekaRaj
May Allahu ta'ala accept the deceased and expand and illuminate his grave, Ameen.

@Ladunal
Thanks for Hadith cited about wilaya. Buttresses concept of deeper realities beyond text, but not against it though. @ikupakuti already did nuf justice to the matter.

What a nice read - the first 10 paragraphs ONLY.

A guided mind can easily recognize the part of the writeup that exudes pure knowledge and the part that breeds controversy and misguidance.

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Thanks. It would be nice if you can take the pain to locate the minutes. Shall be waiting for the videos.

... that salatul Fathia s rewardable thousand times than the Quran ...

@ikupakuti
@Empiree
and co

What can you say about the reward for love and honor for the prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam?

For example, it comes in a hadith that a certain sahaba, radiyAllahu anh, almost would have gone to jahannam by virtue of him disrespecting his mother. In fact, he could not utter the kalima at the point of death until the prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, traced that the source of this was because of him having offended his mother. So I sat back wondering: this is a sahaba, radiyAllahu anh. I mean, he was not even in doubt about most of the things that we argue about these days. He most probably would have observed them perfectly first hand in direct observance from the prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam - all the raf'ul yadain, taraweeh, foot jamming etc controversies. On top of that, he might even have been a ghazi or even Qari who has recited the holy Quran several times over. How come the harm of dishonoring his mum far outweighs these deeds?

I began to realize that the reward for an act done out of love and honor to figures held in high esteem by Allah ta'ala most times are attached to the blessing of the attainment of imaan in this world, rather than a measured reward.

Now before Allahu ta'ala, the prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, is much more esteemed than anyone's mother or parents.

Could statements such as that quoted above be accomodated within this realization?

I know that the quoted is not in any religious texts as we know today but even evidences within those texts point to the fact Allahu ta'ala's reward come without measure for one who honors and respects His nabi, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. Moreover as a saintly figure, is it not possible that Allahu ta'ala can manifest to one, who has thus achieved in drawing closer to Him, the realities of the reward for some of these honors shown toward his chosen one, which may in turn warrant them to make such declarations, albeit, not to make it a religious rule on anyone.

Your thoughts pls.

Definitely not.
Got a couple of questions and observations for members but been busy at work.

Could not find it on PlayStore, then I re read the post and found this.

The app is available for free download in Lagos, Nigeria.

All the same, a very big kudos to her.

Empiree:
I dodnt even notice your posts are missing. That's probably MOD

Sorry my bad. Mixed up the threads.

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lol

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Empiree:
lool...alhamdulilah...he dey

I mean, is he?

Felt that he is.

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may Allah raise his maqam. Amin.

@Empiree's dad kwo?

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JazakAllah bruv. Was ref'ing your efforts.

They so insecure they need to fight others to feel among, evidence of emptiness in the hearts.

Targhib al-Mutahabbin fi labs Khirqat al-Mutammayyazan by Jamal ad-Dan al-Talyani. Here are Ibn Taymiyya’s own words, as quoted from a work of his, al-Mas’ala at-Tabraziyya: ”I wore the blessed Sufi cloak of Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani, there being between him and me two Sufi shaikhs.”

That was straight from your grand shaykh as registered in an earlier thread.

So if you think think these pettinesses is what sufism is about, then go back to your grand shaykh and learn again before coming here to display your ignorance.

That is what you guys were being thought in that thread when you all ran away only to resurface with a hundred and one similar thread full of emptiness, devoid of ilm, lacking in ethics and hal. Is this what you have reduced Islam to?

Demmzy15:
Gbam, one spotted!!!

Ok. Na those emojis you wan take disregard the Hadith ba?

Demmzy15:
Some Muslim conspiracy theorist will soon come and shine their brown teeth saying this building is for the anti-christ aka dajjal!

Demmzy15
When you should be reminding people the end is near. Have you forgotten that Hadith about desert Arabs competing with one another in constructing the tallest buildings towards the end of time?

@Empiree
What a low-down right above (comment B4 last).
I believe that even though you have tijjaniyya background, but what you have dropped is some of the essence of 'naqshbandi' tariqa. #respect.

“We have not granted any man before you eternity. Every soul shall taste death.” (21:34-35)

Modified:
Given that prophet Isah, alayhissalam, is not dead yet, is the man in the video not misrepresenting the verse so? By him saying "khidr is dead definitely because there is no narration that shows that khidr came to the prophet, saw, and became a sahaba". I mean we know definitely that Isah, alayhissalam, is not dead yet and his joining the ummah is to come at a later date.

Jamo90:
Can someone possess this kind of knowledge and still be led astray by Shaytan? ...

Remember the story of Syed AbdulQadir Jilani, ra, as narrated: when he went in the deserts and fell thirsty at which point Allah caused the cloud to gather and some rain fell from which he quenched his thirst. There after some bright light appeared from which a figure manifested and spoke to the shaykh. -Ya Abdul Qadir, I am your Creator, I have made everything halal for you-, upon which the shaykh rebuked the caller and made some dua causing it to disappear. But shaytan was not done yet, as a voice then said that "O Abdul Qadir! You have been saved because of your KNOWLEDGE and PIETY otherwise I have misled many Mystics, with this trap.". You see, he praised the shaykh to see if PRIDE will get into him. Upon which the shaykh replied: Verily, it is the GRACE of my Creator, which is with me and which has saved me from you.

We should pray for @ikupakuti for Allahu ta'ala to raise him in ranks, and prevent him from the evil of the waylayer, and make him to end it very well. In fact I almost wept for him when during one of his posts he mentioned that sometimes even he himself is being driven to obsession because of the way he applies himself in the pursuit of the matters of spirituality.

@ikupakuti
I envy you alot. From Quran, to hadith, fiqh, tasawwuf, to sciences, natural languages, matter energy and relativity, philosophy, MA, numerology etc even ADAB, yes, because I have personally noticed that you don't allow yourself to get worked up no matter how the post is directed at you.

Updated: Even softwares too?

Much respect to all the contributors, you all are awesome. Special mention: @Empiree, @Ladunal, @EmekaRaj.

@Empiree
You made me realize the big mistake of the antagonists of sufism. The "essence".

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Whatever happened to the fear of bearing false witness in people's hearts nowadays.

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They have an internal turmoil that they need to always vent off.
That is why they join issues with everyone even if your are just minding your business.