₦airaland Forum

Don't you think many of the politicians stealing a lot today perfected their skills by stealing crumbs when they were workers working their ass off? Or you think they suddenly became thieves when they got to leadership position? If you want to address a problem, address it from the roots.

Reloadedisraelp:
why I don't agree is dat no body is perfect ..... Yes those politicians aint perfect.....but should be working.....it's just like an organization whereby the workers are stealing crumb and yet they also work their ass off....but u can't say dsame for politicians dat why I only respect wike alot... Any politicians not productive should b sacked immediately....

I was going to post the same thing but decided to move on. I was wondering what the guy's username on a faceless forum has to do with anything. Some people simply take themselves too seriously or just have too much idle time

Image123:
What has mentioning what you think is his name got to do with the issue or post? Does it invalidate the message? SMH

What is your point, please be clear? seunmsg's point is clear. If it was done under GEJ, done under Buhari, how is it now an issue under TInubu? We can't just 'emotionally' pretend that his point is invalid.

franchasofficia:
Keep defending glaring nepotism by Tinubu, but remember that Tinubu will never be President forever. Criminals, kidnappers, ritualists, armed robbers all have justifiable reason whey they do the evil they do.


It seems most of you Yorubas have just lost your sense of reasoning and humanity just because Bola Tinubu became a President. No wahala, but you guys should remember how you have been supporting every unjust policies of Bola Tinubu in the name of tribe.


Nobody is complaining again, people have moved on, those still complaining are only doing so as a reminder before you guys start to twist history tomorrow like Yorubas always do.


Please no need quoting me or replying me, I am not arguing your support for Tinubu, it is your right but just don't complain when anybody that occupies that position do same or worst tomorrow, we all have to prepare to take whatever any President does without complain

I agree with him, any curse is equally directed at everyone that is guilty. Nobody has time for calculating percentage. Even if the sender of the curse has done anything that affects Nigeria negatively, the curse is on him. Every single Nigerian is supposed to represent their nation positively in any capacity

Reloadedisraelp:
dats a big lie ......those guys are suppose to represent their national positively.....but no they chose to loot generational wealth n make things hard for those who elect them,.... Their curse should b greater than any other person...the worst thing I hate is wen u're not working yet u are stealing,dats a complete parasite,....it's dangerous to it vitims..

Can you be specific about your complaint? What is your demand, and based on what?

Ykc2:
so south is now for yorubas only ? Well so long nothing will work out of it is welcomed by me,tinubu can appoint every yoruba person in the world the way buhari was doing then with fulani and you guys were clapping for him what came out of it?I don't want tomorrow when talking shit about naija you guys will start complaining , igbo peoples were not among those that destroyed nigeria igbo person was on sit only for 6 months ,remove 6 months out of 64 years of our independence then tell me the tribe that destroyed nigeria,

Hope you get lots of money for potent spiritual "return to sender"? The people you are cursing have excess of that. If you are in doubt, visit any one of them and look around very carefully, you see spiritual people of various inclinations hanging around them.

This life get some things that ordinary eyes cannot fathom. Just study your environment very well and make informed decisions no matter how tough things are. Doors of opportunities and growth will open. No allow frustration add more to your wahala o, even the likes of Herbert Ogunde, Sunny Ade etc have been singing about tough times in Nigeria decades ago

NaijaSumigan:
Every politician stealing and looting the wealth of the masses in Nigeria will die untimely. Any politician keeping Nigerians in perpetual bondage will be wiped off from the earth by sudden death.

How is that peculiar to UNILAG? Also, why judge based on a single faculty?

Yampotatocarrot:
Fine girls in UNILAG... Loooooooooooooooooooooooool... Comot the makeup and see something... Fine, clean boys, Yes, but girls... Lol

Abi na Education girls just no fine

Frankly, that's probably his experience and in reality many of us can't honestly deny that fact. Yes, we can't solve any problem by living in denial. Too many empty heads all over the place.

Kudos and blessings to all the good women out there, and they are in millions too! Do not give up. No matter what people say, there are opportunities out there. Every single person typing on Nairaland (with less than 5,000 active posters) have had or will have a meal today no matter how small, people are contributing to the supply chain that led to those meals at different stages. There are over 200 million people in Nigeria and that same rule applies to them. Our fashion industry never stops operating, our entertainment industry never stops, online content creation never stops, transportation never stops, services/repairs/all sorts of help never stops, day care services are still available where people can afford it, construction of building never stops in Nigeria. In summary, when you still have economic activities at high pace like Nigeria, please sit down and find honest opportunities and let your integrity be your ladder to higher levels. You can't Bleep people up and expect your ventures to grow.

Nice. Thanks for your insightful perspective on this.

*What are your thoughts on the opportunities we had with high oil price circa 2010 and 2014?

nairalanda1:
Not exactly...though IBB had issues.

The problem was the oil price crash of 1982. BY 1984, it was clear we were running out of dollars to fund things like importing CKD FOR the assembly plants. That was when Buhari started doing things like 'subsitituion' to attempt to keep the plants running. (we would exchange some oil in return for parts for cars ....it was complicated). But oil prices continued to fall...and by 1986, we had to accept a SAP. Either that, or the economy collapsed. SAP was hard, and ulitmately we still had a lot of other issues.....but because of the lack of dollars, we ended up finding it more difficult to import CKD for the car plants.

By the early 1990's, the plants began to produce less.

Also, some of the cars were becoming outdated too. VW was phasing out the old Beetle...in the 1980's. Peugueot had better models of cars in the 1990's. BUt the thing is, the assembly plants did not have enough dollars to keep importing ckd, and to keep on manufacturing....and there wasn't enough disposable income (even when the going was good...people took loans to pay for a new car. I know my parents did, for example).

There was an attempt to improve local content, and the Ajaokuta steel complex was supposed to help us in that regard. But it was never completed, and naturally, there wasn't enough dollars to keep importing . Not like before.

When you list all the Nigeria-based industries and manufacturers at that time then you understand why Naira crashed so badly over the years.

Peugeot Automobile of Nigeria (assembling those vehicles in Nigeria) was fully functional but gradually crumbling at the time of the subject of this thread (Exchange rate in 1984/85 was probably around N2 to $1). The real manifestation of the long-term continuous crash started a full crumble at the foundation level of our economy during IBB's romance with IMF and his structural adjustment program. Nigerian students fought hard against IBB's economic misadventures, but they stood no chance against a military dictator. By the time Abacha got to power, it was game over for Nigeria even when Naira was artificially sustained for several years at N22 to $1.

I won't need you to complain on my behalf if I have issues finding customers. My customers are hustling, they are not sleeping at daytime.

Yes I am ok. Upbringing and school life trained me to be okay in any situation

Emvicprints1:
people you are marketing for have they been able to feed? Stop speaking English things are difficult 500k is useless now stop forming am ok.

Yes, if I need more money I market more and produce more. I observe my environment and monitor trends to find opportunities for affordable short and long term investments. I don't chase stupid schemes and I don't bet. When I borrow money, I pay back as agreed. I manage what I have.

Emvicprints1:
lol so your take home is enough to pay your bills and feed abi?

I am at work making sure I can take care of myself and my people. When you focus on sleeping there is now way your life won't be totally dependent on government.

Emvicprints1:
oga go sleep

That is exactly what is watering down most of the conversations here. The moment you make it about APC, you have politicized the issue and you would be naive and unserious to think it would go down well with those on the side of APC, and who unapologetically believe that we are facing the consequences of poor decisions of the past 30 to 60 years. Whether you agree with them or not is a totally different issue that will always destroy the main focus on any thread or conversation.

To those smart enough to read between the lines, the likes of Helinues post comments targeting their antagonists on the opposite side of the political divide. This issue should be about the good of Nigerians in general, and honest conversations about our way of life and how we can work through the current adversities among the majority. People should stop policising these conversations. It is not about APC, APC is not a bloodline. They are politicians from PDP and other parties that formed a new party, and above all, they are all Nigerians mostly trained in politics on the streets of Nigeria.

gaventa:
Until you people stop attributing the problem of the nation to a political party you won’t have any headway. 85% of APC members were once PDP members, the same Pdp that finished Nigeria , LP members are Aggreived PDP and ApGa former members. There has never been any govt that favored Nigerians, there is no how you want to sugar coat it. It’s a battle that is meant to be between masses and elites but your hate for individuals is making you feel it’s about party. Make una continue, the politicians will keep sharing themselves into different political parties since they know you only want to VOTE OUT and not VOTE IN

Why spend your last kobo on a fruitless venture if things are tough for you? Having opposing views on the economy is not a crime anywhere in the world.

This is the kind of vengeful mindset and poor decision making across all level that contributed to the situation in Nigeria today. We focus on irrelevant things, and waste too much time and energy in the wrong direction.

Siberia01:
I will spend my last kobo to reveal your identity
I pray you will survive it
Except your not staying in planet earth
What kind of inhumane comment is this one
Is something wrong with your head?

Atiku, this is over.

A working state.

He said that and our people got mad at him. Yet, you don't need to look beyond your immediate communities to see the bitter truth.

Apel147:
Nigerians and quick money! No wonder buhari called them lazy youths

Words on marble.

Some of our unchastised kids who are not children of today's leaders will become leaders tomorrow. Then the masses will blame them, saying our problem is the leaders.

They fail to understand that the leadership is a clear reflection of the value system of the people. So the cycle continues.

AntiChristian:
We seldom blame ourselves!

We seldom train our kids!

Only our leaders are blameworthy!

No, Yorubas won't do that. It has no traditional basis.

flokii:
If Igbos go about appointing Eze ndigbos outside their region.. then Yorubas, Hausas etc. should start having their own rulership stools such as Oba, Emir in Abia, Anambra, Enugu, Imo and Ebonyi.
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Arsenal and gragra with nothing to show at the end of the season.

Seems you totally missed the essence of the subject matter here.

mairogo:
You guys come online and post lies hoping for them to become truth. Some Obidients may have acted unruly but you Batists are the worst of it.
Don't we all know how it started? How you guys made a caricature of Peter Obi immediately he left PDP and picked up LP ticket? How you guys described his supporters as 4 people tweeting in a room, how he was never gonna win one ward even in his Anambra, how he was never gonna get up to 200 supporters in Kaduna.

Have we forgotten Sam Omotsaye and his Obituary story soon after Peter Obi emerged LP candidate?
Have we forgotten how Tinubu kept talking about Obi in his campaign rallies instead of speaking to issues about governance?

You guys are terribly good at lies and you always hope that nobody picks the lies to debunk them.

Toyin Abraham, Eniola Badmus and several others say hi

nams77:
When people like you claim that obedients bullied people, it gets me surprised. I supported obi and so many persons I know did same too. I never saw them bully anyone. It's funny sha

Thank you bro!

The way overzealous Igbos always find ways to label and demonize Yorubas is amazing and should be studied. Igbos most welcoming abode in the past 100 years in terms of mass migration is Yorubaland, and I'm not even talking about Lagos.

success1smyn:
We have many Yoruba who has supported Obi, are still doing so and will support him in the future, it's not a problem for us Omoluabi, I am Yoruba and I support whoever i want not because of tribe or religion. My mum and my immediate younger sister are die hard Obi supporters but that is what you can't find on the other side. Imagine my Igbo friend that voted for Obi telling me I voted for Tinubu because he is Yoruba. Obi got more Yoruba vote than Tinubu got Igbo votes. It's actually Igbo especially obidients that are tribalists. The hated Ariwoola for being Yoruba and have continued their hatred for Kekere-Ekun.

madridguy:
Obidence are just shameless people. You are saying someone is not your president yet you carry cloth follow your mama go take his excellency handshake

Truly hillarious lol.
Nothing wrong with that though. Family is family and his political choice is his right. Na overzealous Obidients too mumu to understand that basic tenet of democracy with their past attacks on people not sold on their saviour.

Our girls have done it! Go Edo Queens!!!

Breath deeply, stay focused, and be civil. You don't have to lose control simply because you can't have your way in an argument.

You said and I quote "What you have right now is a corrupt justice system that disregards the very constitution in probably almost half of its rulings."

Can you substantiate that with the last 50 or the last 20? You were emphatic about "almost half". Can you establish that by showing where you got the supporting fact?

Kobojunkieee:
You are silly for asking me for the last 50! 🤔

2. You get dictionary at all? In which language do you find the word Sidestepping having the same meaning as the word Interpreting? 🤔

Ok, so where is the issue?

immortalcrown:
The army, the INEC and the supreme court.

Read my post carefully one more time.

Also, for the sake of fruitless armchair argument on the internet, can you provide say, the last 50 judgments of the supreme court and list the ones where they have abandoned the constitution. Please keep in mind that even in the most advanced countries, interpretation of lines of the constitution are often at variance with multiple judges.

Kobojunkieee:
Please stop already!↪

Again, your Supreme has numerous times sidestepped the Supreme Law of the Land when it comes to their rulings. They have abandoned the Constitution on enough occasions for that group to be considered a rogue/criminal group up there at this point. What you have right now is a corrupt justice system that disregards the very constitution in probably almost half of its rulings.

Who determines free and fair?

immortalcrown:
Was the beating free and fair?

Our reactions to technical decisions may be influenced by our cognitive biases and limitations. While the Supreme Court's decisions are bound by the Constitution, they also involve the application of legal principles and interpretations, which can be subject to varying perspectives and judgments.

Kobojunkieee:
Yet the current Supreme Court (with Kekere-Ekun as one of its members) was exactly what you described. The Akpabio and Lawan decision made by the same Supreme Court not long ago is another example. Of course, there are several other examples of the Supreme Court sidestepping the Constitution to mention as well.

Supreme court is not village square with elders breaking kola and judging based on sentiments and emotion.

The legal profession is about intricate technicalities, procedural frameworks, and established norms as integral components. You could be right and still fail to prove your case in court.