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Krismas:
Mumu
There are 16 DSS in America and all are FORGERIES
Next, try find out HOW MANY DSS ARE IN JORDAN? You wont get dat, except for stupid copper scroll!
How did copper scroll become DSS? Jordan does not have DSS simple, i don't have time for archeological politics

Uve been thoroughly disgraced today.
I will let U be. It's unfair beating a defeated horse.
Next time watch the purulent stuff you dish out from your mouth.
It's not every one here that is intellectually lazy like U.

Krismas:
Illiterate.
Why not check the year of your article first?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

'Almost all of the 15,000 scrolls and scroll fragments are held in the Shrine of the Book at the Israel Museum located in Jerusalem. The Israeli government's custody of the Dead Sea Scrolls is disputed by Jordan and the Palestinian Authority on territorial, legal, and humanitarian grounds —they were mostly discovered following the Jordanian
annexation of the West Bank and were acquired by Israel after Jordan lost the 1967 Arab–Israeli War[3]—
whilst Israel's claims are primarily based on historical and religious grounds, given their significance in Jewish history and in the heritage of Judaism.[4]'
mumu

I've always known Nigerian atheist are very
dumb and stoopid.
You guys are too foolish to even open your mouths to say there's no God.
Your brain is very empty and too dull.
Simple research, U can't do.

Not all dead sea scrolls are in Jerusalem, some are in
Jordan while some are in Washington

And I'm asking how come a Muslim govt will be helping Jews to fabricate their text. If anything it
should evidence for Muslims that the Torah is corrupt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jordan_Museum#:~:text=The%20Jordan%20Museum%20is%20located,oldest%20human%20statues%20ever%20made.

The Jordan Museum is located in Ras al-Ein district of Amman, Jordan. Built in 2014, the museum is the largest museum in Jordan and hosts some of the country's most important archaeological
finding. Its two main permanent exhibitions are the Dead Sea Scrolls, including the Copper Scroll, and the 9000-year-old ʿAin Ghazal statues, which are among the oldest human statues ever made.

Krismas:
Genesis 1:7-8
“And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.”
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”
Am sure the heaven here, is where angel Michael is practicing with his sword?
Mumu, heaven is same as sky or firmament. Which is separate from a fantasy land where god and angels are wasting away.

Haha running to the bible won't safe U.
According to the Yoruba mythology, where does Olorun lives.

From where did he send Oduduwa to earth?

As U can see, you are punching far far above your weight. Olodo

He will come here and tell me Yoruba god lives in the sky. Why we never see am when flying inside aeroplane.
Mumu

franchasng:
Canada has never been a country where migrants succeed financially, maybe some fortunate and smart ones do, but generally, Canada is just a layback country where you just live an average life till old age, most people that live in Canada hardly have enough savings to invest back in Nigeria.



Remember, there are very few fortunate ones making it in Canada but not common like America, etc

Make Una dey deceive unasef.
My cousin who is an Alfa in Canada already bought a house in lekki.

Don't plan for your old age and continue giving excuse. He go do U like magic.

Someone lived in Canada for 48 yrs but can't boast of a house anywhere. If he bought a house in Canada 30 yrs ago, it won't be more than 300k n would have sold it for over a million now.
That's more than enough to live comfortably in naija rather than begging for food on social media.

Krismas:
DSS have left Jordan a long time ago.
The entire DSS are all fake. There are new methods now of analyzing these scripts.
Tell Israel to bring out those fake scripts

See as this liar is lying to his teeth shamelessly.
Have some dignity and confessed U goofed.

Krismas:
All your rant is irrelevant.
You don't know what I know. Else you won't be a slave to a fake god, hoping on fabricated steles
Olorun is Owner of d sky. There is no heaven in African religion.
I have already given you REINCARNATION. Its African and its not atheist.
Abi you don't even know what atheist is? What does atheist gods mean? when atheism is the repudiation of all gods.
As for English, wud you rather i communicate with you in sign language?

Olodo. African religion him no sabi.

Krismas:
clown
Every single word of your writeup is steep in error
1. I don't take no lessons from any whiteman. The melanated people are the superior humans on earth. Whites can't teach me.
2. Africa has its own religious system and obviously Christianity is a slave-master's religion
3. You show me any African religion that believes in hell or heaven. We believe in reincarnation. Whiteman taught me dat?
4. To this mumu, anyone who does not believe in his god, who can impregnate another man's wife immaculately, is an atheist.
5. The bible is a fake copy-copy of other books like Enuma Elish. I don't care wot d bible say.
6. I serve gods other dan those your putrid white false gods

mumu running to hide under african religion. I can confidently say he knows jack about any african religion.
I doubt he can even speak any indigenous african language fluently. In his mind, he's going to communicate with african gods in english.
Your brain is filled with sawdust.
Mumu says african religion doesn't believe in heaven, then where does the word Olorun in Yoruba language comes from?

Guy swerve, answer my initial question.
Produce one single evidence against christianity that is not linked to your white atheist gods.
Just one. If u are original, that should not be too hard for u.

Krismas:
Says a foool who worship white man god.
Your entire religion is fabrications. Every single aspect of the Christian belief is fraudulent manipulation

No problem, shebi it's the white man that told u Christianity is fake. All evidence in your conspiracy polluted brain comes from your white god.
Everything u know against christianity comes from your white god in europe
you have nothing against christianity that's not from your white atheist gods. They were the ones who told u its better to be atheist.
I dare u to produce one single evidence against christianity that not linked to your white gods in europe. Just one

Now same white gods are chanting/reciting the shahada because they think Muhammed isn't fake.
so when are u joining your white gods to say the shahada.

The bible states 'A fool says there's no God"[/b]
unfortunately above is your pathetic case. A fool who has no mind of his own but follow others blindly without using his brain.
a black man who became atheist because the white man told him so.

Krismas:
Tell Israel to release the copies of the DSS in their museum for forensic examinations.

The funny thing some of the dead sea scrolls are in Jordan musuems controlled by a muslim government
Now this mumu will have us believe a muslim govt will help protect a jewish lie.

https://universes.art/en/art-destinations/jordan/amman/museums/jordan-museum/dead-sea-scrolls#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20the%20scrolls%20are%20of%20leather,special%20climate%20controlled%20display%20at%20The%20Jordan%20Museum.

Krismas:
Dead sea scrolls are all fake

Mr fake wannabe atheist. Since your god- the white man who introduced u to atheism are embracing Islam, when are u going to become a muslim.
when are u saying your shahada just like your white gods in europe are reciting the shahada in droves?

Krismas:
Dead sea scrolls are all fake

I dont debate with conspiracy nut junks
Your brain is filled with nonsense
It's a waste discussing with u.

Krismas:
Yes Tenakh was hurriedly translated from Septuagint.
Jerome used Greek scripts in-addition to Hebrew scripts he used.
Whats important is that Vulgate is a hundred years after the Septuagint.
Enough time to have created many fake Hebrew scripts from Septuagint.
Then the Dead Sea Scroll is another miserable FORGERY

Ok I rest my case. If dead sea scroll is forgery, nothing more to say.

Krismas:
Stop wasting my time with fakes. You won't believe how desperate the Zionists are to fake a historic tie to Palestine. There are millions of rubbish archeological finds out there. All completely fabricated.
If Israel ever existed, there would have been ruins to show for it.

Hahahaahaha

Monuments are not ancient ruins
Ladies and gentlemen U see this pathetic loser.
Rejecting evidence as fake another wannabe Donald trump.

Krismas:
Absolute nonsense.
If this mumble jumbo chronicle of LIES is your religion, then its safe to say, you are on the path of perdition.
The entire New Testament was written in Greek, and that's not even controversial.
Its the Old Testament i was invariably leading you to, which ALSO WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK
The source document for the Old Testament today, remains the Greek Septuagint, which is rumored to be a translation from a mythical Hebrew script that no one else has ever seen except some unknown 72 Hebrew elders.
Long story short, Source document for Old Testament is Greek and there was never any Paleo-Hebrew.
The Septuagint exposed all of these. Hebrew is a fake language hurriedly fabricated

Seriously, Septuagint the source of modern day Hebrew tanakh.

Father Jerome who translated old testament to Latin didn't even use Septuagint. He used the Hebrew text and this was in the 4th century CE.

And we have the dead sea scrolls that contain virtually all the books of the old testament in their original language including book of Daniel in Aramaic.

Krismas:
Mesha Stele is a reconstructed FORGERY.
Its fake

https://www.academia.edu/49198464/The_Mesha_Stele_a_Reappraisal_of_a_Forgery

Anyway let me bring up more ancient Steele

I will slap that your big mouth with ancient inscriptions of Israel
Your ignorance must be cured.

Kurkh monolith that has king Ahab inscribed on it.

It's a monument for Shalmaneser III king of Assyrian re his campaign in Levant region.
It's an ass

Krismas:
Mesha Stele is a reconstructed FORGERY.
Its fake

https://www.academia.edu/49198464/The_Mesha_Stele_a_Reappraisal_of_a_Forgery

Hahaha

Bringing up junk work done by David Ventura known promoting mythical appraisal of all bible stories.

This is a rebuttal in the same academic journal.

https://www.academia.edu/64449728/Mesha_Stele_not_a_parabiblical_forgery_

This is what majority biblical scholars have to say about the mesha steele

Krismas:
Ur proof is trash, dats my point.
First, Jerusalem has nothing to do with Israel. So, hurry up and tell me what Herodotus said about Israel.
Then on the Merneptah Stele. Not all scholars agree the Stele referred to Israel.
Scholars who agree, are unanimous on fact that the Stele said PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
Israel was never referred to as a nation.
If Israel had ever existed, the ruins will still be apparent for all to see.

Your delusion is real and very disturbing.
Allow me to cure it by bringing another steele- mesha Steele.
A 9th century BC Canaanite inscription dated.
It mentioned Israel as a state.

The inscription is about the victory of Moabite king over Israel.
The story is also in the bible in 2nd kings.

olawonder:
I don’t wanna go into a cycle of arguments with you guys… Of course half of the world doesn’t follow any religion especially in Europe even though they may claim to identify as Christians so why would there be such requirement in every country of the world?… but I’m telling you that even in Muslim countries, if a non religious person wishes to sit in an interview with a female journalist there won’t be such requirement. In Dubai and Qatar, both countries I’ve been few times, there are women in bikinis in certain seaside areas with no problems whatsoever! In Afghanistan there are women everywhere without head covering, only their religious officials demand head covering in certain places that require mixing with opposite sex… it doesn’t mean woman are shoved into prisons everyday for just going about their daily business! There are videos of everyday life in cities across the Middle East on YouTube, watch it yourself

Christine Amanpour wanted to interview the Iranian leader in New York not in Iran.
Why would he insist on such requirements on a woman who's not a Muslim in New York?

olawonder:
So you think it’s an act of fanaticism for an Islamic ruler to demand decency from a female (someone else’s wife) in order to interview him? No that’s is pretty normal for any religious leader to ask… that’s what we saying here, western media people always spin normal things around to make it sound extreme soon as it involves a Muslim personality! Just travel on your own to all these Islamic countries, you will have a change of heart, women have more freedom and better protected than in any non Muslim country!

covering hair has nothing to do with moral decency. over 90% of women dont cover their hair, there's nothing indecent about that.
dont spin a lie to justify subjugation.

afghanistan is a muslim country and a terrible place for women to live. They recently banned women from going to school.
mentioning dubai or qatar is ridiculous, they are wealthy nations and their leaders are sensible enough to distribute the wealth to their citizens.

Norway and Switizerland are places described as best places to be a woman, but I wouldn't use that to describe whole of europe because 2 countries cannot define a continent.
use your brain and reason like u have one

adams123:
ISLAM is a religion with rules and guidelines... Nothing good comes easy.. you can't practice Islam the way you wish just like Christianity.
You guys think is easy to enter paradise for a perpetual enjoyment? You have to work for it while you are alive. You christians and other Faith followers should please carryout your research on ISLAM because to die as a non Muslim is a great loss and you will face the consequences of that in the hellfire forever and ever... Please, this issue is not a joke, read about Islam

Thinking u can buy your way into heaven is the most stoopid human reasoning I have ever encountered.
what work or good deeds do u want to accumulate that can impress God Almighty.

The bible said 'our righteousness are as filthy rags in front of God' I saiah 64.6

U can't bribe God with your silly inconsequential works. If u think not eating pork will get u to heaven, u must be joking.

The only entrance to paradise is salvation, unless you are saved- you are doomed for eternal damnation. Unfortunately, there's no salvation in Islam, reason why u people accumulate good works to impress God.

Btw, let me share a secret with u. Christianity which mean following Jesus Christ is VERY HARD. There's nothing ever known harder than being a follower of Jesus.
U deny yourself completely up to the level of being a sheep and follow ONLY what the Holy spirit tells you.
If the Holy spirit tells u to abandon your comfort life in Abuja and relocate to a village in burundi for the rest of your life, u must do it.
If the Holy spirit tells you to give all your billion wealth for an unknown person in Chile and live on few dollars a day, its a commandment and you must do it.

disobedient to the holy spirit is a very grievous sin, worse than witchcraft. The bible says its an unpardonable sin.

Christianity is a very hard journey, that's why bible called it a very narrow way to heaven.
If u think not eating pork, avoiding alcohol or reciting some chants five times a day is a big deal, then I feel very sorry for u.
Most Christians I know dont drink, they dont like pork, and they dont fornicate or club, Redeemers are presently doing 100 days prayer and fasting; yet they know very well those things isn't enough to get them to heaven. They will not present these good works as evidence to justify entrance to paradise.

You better talk to a genuine Christian in your area and let him/her show u the true path to salvation and righteousness b4 your case becomes a case of had i know

For those who are genuinely interested in what was said in the video.
It was a declaration of faith by the woman that got her pregnant.

chronique:
You might not like Trump but he isn't totally wrong here. America has a trade deficit in the auto industry with Canada and Europe. More cars come in from Canada to America. The trade deficit is much. Cars worth over 290bn dollars are shipped into the US while cars worth over 140bn dollars are shipped out of the US. That's what Trump is trying to balance. I don't dispute the fact that he sometimes acts like an idiot though.

pls do some research b4 running your mouth carelessly online.
america's trade deficit with canada is because of oil and gas.
remove those 2 products and america actually has trade surplus with canada. That's what everybody have been telling Trump but refuse to listen.
The north american auto industry is a deeply integrated manufacturing supply chain around the great lake region. Some parts are produced in canada because they are cheaper to manufacture there. It has nothing to do with protectionist policies.

Krismas:
Nonsense

As usual...

Slap them with evidence, they deny it.

Not only Herodotus, but Babylonian ancient historian, berossus also confirmed the Assyrian siege failed because of bubonic plague.

Ikaeniyan0:
I don't see Tinubu losing the 2027 presidential election

People said the same thing during Jonathan's time until it was too late.

If the coalition of northerners can swallow their pride and present Peter Obi as their presidential candidate, it's game over for Tinubu.
Even Southwest will vote Peter Obi.

But if these coalition presents another Northerner, then it will just be a repeat of 2023 election because those who voted Peter Obi in 2023 will vote for him again in 2027- meaning opposition will split their votes.

Krismas:
Herodotus wrote histories 500yrs before Jesus was born.
there has never been any country known as Isrrael. never

Have U heard of merneptah Steele?

An ancient Egyptian monument found in 1896 and dated around 1233 BC. That's 700 years b4 your Herodotus.

The monument mentioned Israel as a state in Canaan region.


And it's a big lie Herodotus never mentioned Israel.

Herodotus wrote about the Assyrian campaign and siege against Jerusalem when Hezekiah was king. I'm sure U know the story.
He attributed the sudden defeat and departure of the mighty Assyrian army to plague attack in the camp.
The bible attributed it to divine intervention.

Read my friend, read.

mrvitalis:
Sure we got lower wage, cheaper power, experience manpower

Bangladesh, Vietnam and Pakistan are beating them why can't we

Power isn't cheap.
But I agree wage is cheap and skillset is there.
Btw Vietnam and Bangladesh are very strong in textile.
Bangladesh is the 6th largest exporter of textiles and 2nd largest exporter of garment.

It won't cut it if u going to import all the materials from china and all U do is cut and sow.
U can't be competitive when it comes to export. U will still depend on govt protection.

mrvitalis:
For me 0 percentage import duty on fabric.. Zero net import duty no vat nothing

Zero percent import duty on garment factory equipments

Tax benefits to banks that give 50% loans to real sectors such as garment factory

2 trillion grants to garment factory or cooperative of tailors minimum of 50 to 500 to set up garment factory 2 billion to 50 billion zero interest loans to pay back after 10 years

300% import duty on finished clothing

And U actually think U can compete with china when it comes to garment industry.
Will your finished products be cheaper than Chinese garments that will be snuggled if they are banned?

mrvitalis:
Textile is gone we would never get back, for me we never really had any advantage from the start it only survived because of primitive protectionist economic policy and thats what killed it too

Today in other to protect a Dead textil industry that would never be competitive we are killing a potential 100 billion dollars per year garment industry.. Making same mistake again

In 50years or more we would then remember the garment industries

But we also import garments en masses. I don't think Nigeria has a competitive garment industry except if we go protectionist again.

Antichristian2:
Alhamdulillah you know your argument is useless!
You can't be a son and a slave at the same time.

End of discussion

Antichristian2:
No son worships his father!

The Father also worship the Son.
The Father called his Son God.
Both are divine

Antichristian2:
No son will obey the father 100% including killing himself on his order!

Well if U saying Allah isn't 100% perfect then his Son has every right to disobey him.

Antichristian2:
No son will thrash his will completely for his father's!

Again if Allah's will is imperfect, his Son has every right to follow his own will.

Antichristian2:
Are U saying the will of Jesus isn't perfect.

Jesus adopted the will of his Father. He felt no need to have another will because the will of the Father is perfect for him.

Antichristian2:
God created us all and everyone is His slave!
Allah says what means:
There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave. (Qur'an - Maryam 19:93)

Muhammed said that. No previous scriptures called creation slaves. It makes no sense.

JESUS NEVER CALLED HIMSELF A SLAVE.

Antichristian2:
That's biology (sexual reproduction)!

Are you comparing me and my parents to Jesus and the Father? So the Father and Mary gave birth to Jesus!



My parents need offspring to continue their lineage and someone to inherit their legacy!
I guess the father too needs a son to continue his lineage and inherit him.
I agree with my father in many things and disagree with him also in some things! Did Jesus disagree with the father in anything?
There is no way a son will be perfectly obedient to his father like Jesus except he's a slave.

No father can send a son to go and die except the son is a metaphor for a slave!

I obey my dad most times! Some other times i don't.

Yeah we are to obey our parents in the Lord not in everything!

But according to same Paul, Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesians 6:5. Jesus did obey his master this way!



There are two different things you confuse from your Bible!

Children are to obey their parents in the Lord!

Slaves on the other hand has no restrictions:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesian 6:5

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only to please them while they are watching, but with sincerity of heart and fear of the Lord. Colossians 3:22

Slaves are to submit to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, Titus 2:9

You disagree with your Father because he's not perfect. He doesn't know everything so prone to mistakes.
Your father's will for you isn't without defect.

Jesus had no cause to disagree with his Father because he knows his Father his perfect. He knows it all. So he trust his father 100%.
Jesus had no cause to doubt his Father's will for him.

Paul told slaves to obey their masters as if they obey the Lord because the Lord will reward them. The servitude was for the Lord not their earthly masters.

The same way U do your work as if it's for Allah not because of some Oga who will punish U if U do nonsense.

Ephesians 6
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7[b] Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, [/b] not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.



Finally I want to end this useless argument.
Is it possible to be a Son and a slave at the same time to One person?

I bought this gen 9700 in 2009. And yet we were complaining that things were expensive.
Annoying thing is while inflation has increased by over 10,000%, wages remain flat

Giving someone 10k in 2009 was good money, it's still the same today. This shows people are poorer now than in 2009.

Antichristian2:
Yeah, na only you i dey respond to here and online. Why do i need to research anything for you?

Yes, the sin part wasn't for Jesus but the obedience part is for him. He obeys the father as a slave obeys his master.

Paul Confirms the slavery!
Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—

This means if you obey God then you are God's slaves according to Paul!

Jesus obeyed God by doing His will so he became a slave of God!

Why didn't Jesus give them to the father? It was the father that always give him everything! Just as a slave!

There's nothing wrong if master and slave are working!


This one is capping! Why didn't Jesus heal the canaanite woman's daughter at first? Why did Jesus had to pray to God to raise the dead?

Can the father worship Jesus like Jesus worshipped him?

It is still coming from the Master to the slave!

God granted him life. He can't grant himself life nor can he grant the father life! By himself he can do nothing! That's the definition of a slave.

Yes, he didn't call himself slave of God! And i never said Jesus called himself a slave. I am saying all his actions and words are that of a slave not son!

Jesus is a messenger of God - A messenger is a slave o
John 3:17: "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world..."
John 5:36: "But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of me, that the Father has sent me."
John 7:29: "But I know him, for I am from him, and he sent me."

A slave does the will of others
John 4:34: "My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work."
John 5:30: "I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who sent me."
Matthew 26:39: In the Garden of Gethsemane, he prays, "Not as I will, but as you will."

Too much rants and babbling!

I never knew U are this slow in thinking
Everything you are and will become in this world came from your Father and Mother.

Your genetic sequence, your life, your personality, the way U were raised came from them.
Are U then a slave to your parents for giving you life?

Father bequeath wealth to their Sons
Father give inheritance to their sons.
Does that make sons slave to their Fathers.

Imagine saying when a son obeys his Father, then he's a slave.
Are U a slave to your Father because U obey him and follow his instructions?

This is what Paul that U have been quoting has to say about son obeying their fathers.


Ephesian 6
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

Does that make children slaves to their parents?

In the old covenant, children who disobey their parents are stoned to death according to law of Moses.

According to antiMuslim, that makes children slaves to their Parents.

Your reasoning is upside down.