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Expanse2020:
Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

petesunday:
There is a video of Navalny or his aide asking the CIA for 20 million dollars to start a revolution in Russia. Navalny is also a bloody fascist who hates the minorities of Russia and called them cockroaches. He is a nobody in Russia and was arrested for treason with evidence. If someone is caught in America collecting money from Russians to disrupt elections he will be arrested. NAVALNY is not even popular in Russia.The only reason western media is promoting him is because he is serving western interests.

Expanse2020:
I know you are daft..
If you read Quran you will know who Allah first created and who first landed on this Earth
Then you will know when Moses came too..
Where did you see holy spirit in Quran 😂😂😂😂😂
Tell me where you and the Sunni sat down and concluded that Jubril A.S is the holy spirit
And where you and Shiite sat and concluded that holy spirit is in the Quran
When you check Quran the second chapter, Your and you are looking for is there. You just need to read to acquire knowledge
Empty head🤣😂😂🤣🤣

Expanse2020:
Ehen so tell me every Muslim always read bible before reading Quran 😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I will like you to proof it to me óò
Who came first óò you may enlightening me if it is Moses OOO😂🤣🤣🤣
Abraham came first Abi you see another verse that said Moses was the first man in your own Quran too, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We hear every Xtians are now getting There own copy of the Quran t😂😂😂😂

Maynmaynmayn:
Credulity.
The same scriptures that is inspired by yahweh don't agree with each other 😂

LordReed:
LoLz. Ok name 5 core beliefs of Christianity.

LordReed:
I tire for you too. Here you are trying to change the argument. The question was NOT if he exposed Christianity as fraud or false, it was do the discrepancies and changes affect core beliefs and the answer is a resounding YES. Not because they make the beliefs null and void rather because you can find manuscripts to support whatever interpretation you want.

The video I linked Bart says very clear Jesus never says he is god, does that not affect a core belief of Christianity?

BTW here's what Bart says on the question of the greek writers of the gospels.

LordReed2nd:
LMAO! I guess atheists have started asking you for 10% of your every income and the whole of your first income of the year and sacrificial seed and free will offerings every Sunday and freewill offering during WEEKLY meetings and free will offering during house fellowship. What a scam these atheists must be perpetrating on you.

Where is this evidence against atheism? As in evidence against not believing in a god? How does that work?

LMAO@"The Christian faith is the only one that is archeological, historical, logical and philosophical valid". Let us take history for example, when was the census of Quirinus and when did Herod die? Explain when Roman census started requiring people to travel to their home towns to be counted.

I got off the train 5½years now and have no single compulsion to get back on. There's nothing I miss that will ever drag me back to being a Christian. Even if I started worshipping Jesus again tomorrow I'd never be a Christian.

budaatum:
Smartly, he collects 'tithes'.

https://ehrmanblog.org/register/

LordReed:
Here is an even less ambiguous statement in a video from 7 months ago:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2STiabRV8TE?t=26

So no buddy Bart Ehrman did not say the changes to the text do not affect central Christian doctrine.

Expanse2020:
Stop arguing and sturdy biology or anatomy precisely..

Go and learn my friend
Google is there for you to check the pictures of foetus, embryo sack, zygote and ask yourself how blood in your body is form

Allah answer
We have made in à best form
Glory be to Allah

Expanse2020:
Stop arguing and sturdy biology or anatomy precisely..

Go and learn my friend
Google is there for you to check the pictures of foetus, embryo sack, zygote and ask yourself how blood in your body is form

Allah answer
We have made in à best form
Glory be to Allah

TenQ:
Its the new discovery by the Nobel Laurette Professor Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah : they found out through Allah that all Muslim men's sperm turn into congealed blood

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!

They have developed a second parallel theory:
1. The reproductive fluid of the woman comes from her top rib bones (around the necklace area)
2. The reproductive fluid of the woman is yellow and thin (That of the man is thick and white)

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”

This is what the apprentice of Prof Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah is trying to teach us now!

He couldn't tell us the name of the yellow fluid of the woman: neither has he been able to show how the fluid contribute to conception

Expanse2020:
My answers also is in the Quran
k let start from the beginning for you
Everything from the QURAN

Al alaq (the clot) 1&2
Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed
blood:
Please find the meaning of clot/leech/ congealed blood you will need it later
At tarik 4-5
Now let man but think from what he is created!

He is created from a drop(a sperm) emitted-
. Proceeding from between the backbone (fluid connect our brains to the scrotum sack it control the stuff during the sex) and the ribs ( where woman fluid produced too during the sex)

Al Mumeen (the believer): 11-14
12. Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

13. Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;

14. Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump;[/b] then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create

Notes
A single sperm required in most cases to fertilize a egg in women
Allah goes further ; Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
(the place of rest is a place where the fertilazation take place, firmly fixed at the wall of ovary you can check the ovary/ovum wall how it look like and where fertilization take place in Google...
The process of fertilization is called zygote and zygote happened in a sack which is called embryo development (which is foetus Allah Said

So looking at the zygote picture from Google it filled mainly by congele blood/ clot,leech it what the white man called zygote
does it answer your question
See the attached picture

Lukuluku69:
So, the Prophet asked him to kill?

Please show me that and we can engage.

Lukuluku69:
So, the Prophet asked him to kill?

Please show me that and we can engage.

Lukuluku69:
Tell us if you know of any on the Command of the Prophet.

Oya......

Lukuluku69:
Going thru the History of the Prophet's Life was there any mention that his immediate Companions killed anyone for slandering the Prophet?

In the Quran, is there a command or any command to kill anyone who slander the Prophet?

LordReed2nd:
Rather you are one making Bart Ehrman the authority since it was you who brought him up so why don't you listen to his actual words from his actual mouth instead of relying on editorialised versions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE?t=3874

Igbek76:
US spent 20 years in rag tagged Afghanistan and unable to defeat them. The US was shamefully expelled. Same in Vietnam.
Russia have been able to annexed a very huge part of Ukraine with massive resources and even installed governors there and conducted elections.

SIRTeee15:
See another evidence...at least your new found god admits to the truth when confronted with it.

Don't U want to be like him.

https://christianapologetics.org/biblical-items/the-elusive-bart-ehrman-quote/

LordReed:
You what you posted are not statements of Bart Erhman. Try again.

budaatum:
It is not how you understand it, you mean. The fact remains that those who believe one book would likely not learn from other books.


I don't know how you could have "noticed u always yapping about indoctrination of foreign religion via colonialism", when that is not a thing I do.

Perhaps you could provide evidence of such "yapping" so you can be believed. Also consider the stupidity of "yapping about indoctrination of foreign religion via colonialism", in the language of the colonialiser.

One should yap against colonialism in one's uncolonized language, is my preferred position, and I am thankful for my proficiency in the language of the coloniser and the books it empowers me to be able to read.


I quote the Bible too, so why haven't you asked me where the first church was built?

What has quoting the Koran got to do with the first mosque built anywhere? I detect needless deflection here, and an attempt to waste my time on irrelevants.


Not only has Christianity changed, Christianity itself was a change from 'Salvation by the Ark' Judaism, to salvation by Christ.

In fact, not only did 'Thou shalt worship no other God", change, but today same God is not exactly so jealous anymore.


Bart Erhman is required reading for anyone who truly questions the Bible, but is at the beginning of one's search for knowledge.

No one is claiming here that the Bible is not real, just that much that is described in it isn't historically nor archeologically accurate.

LordReed:
You what you posted are not statements of Bart Erhman. Try again.

budaatum:
I hope you mean you "believe the Bible", because Christianity, being an ideology, is not as valid and real as you claim.


https://www.nairaland.com/7348804/those-read-only-one-book


The Egyptians were not do arrogant as to claim their God was a universal supreme deity, and neither were the Israelites, who's god was for them alone. It is the Western world, having killed their own gods, that adopted the god of the Israelites and promoted it as a universal god. The Israelites themselves wouldn't share their parochial god with gentiles.

And the reason it was easily shared was the fact that it had a paper book, as opposed to the word of the gods of Egypt who's words were written in stone.


A Yoruba proverb goes, a person who hasn't seen another another person's father's farm would claim their father's farm is the biggest.

You know nothing about Buddhism for instance, which has gone through more study and critique for longer than Christianity. They just never colonised you with it, but those who were will say the same as you've said about your religion.


Yes it has changed. It began as a change from parochial Judaism, and became Catholic, before going Protestant, and now Evangelical with lots of variants along the way. I'd even claim it came out of Egypt, but that might involve me trying to convince you of what the sort of indoctrination 400 years of slavery the Israelites went through can do to one. But I doubt your countenance that idea, even though it's similar to the indoctrination that's made us Nigerians abandon our own gods and adopt the colonisers' ones.

Humans always change, and how they will see and understand things changes too. That is how we grow and develop and evolve.


If I want to learn, Sirtee? So, you want a relationship with me whereby you are the superior and I your student?

At least show you have knowledge to share before asking me to sit at your feet in the congregation you preside over please, or perhaps consider you might want to learn too.

I've included the verse you requested below, plus another for you to think about learning.

budaatum:
I guess some are telling you that they don't accept the Bible, which was written by humans with an agenda, is true or confirms anything. Atheists will go further and tell you it does not even confirm a God exists not to talk of said god having a child.

budaatum:
Thankfully, it is written in the Bible that[b] humans should not live by only one book but by every book the gods wrote,[/b] which helps reduce one's confirmation bias and ignorance.

budaatum:
Just imagine not reading anything about the ancient Egyptians from who the gods grew, and you might get a clue.

budaatum:
Many have resolved that "if", and found it to be not as true as some claim. And it's not healthy to just believe whatever one reads in a book without investigating it's validity by oneself.

JASONjnr:
I've listen to many of their preachings and I can say that you can't get anything meaningful from it, other than taxing and asking you to be hopeful on God.


Someone asked one of these pastors why we have different DNA? Cause the Bible said the first human was Adam and Eve.

Stories in the Bible will keep you wondering if some people take others for a fool. How can a group of people gathered to build a tower towards heaven and God decided to strike on them by making them confused and speak in different languages. Same sky we fly around today.... Did God relocate from the sky to the sun?

SIRTee15:
Inflation is biting hard globally especially in western countries with this ongoing russia-ukraine wahala.
Also lots of complaints coming from recent immigrants into Canada. Infact majority will advise u not to come and some are leaving canada for home.

I will admit the recent immigration policy of western leaders has failed and led more cons and pros. Even the immigrants themselves are complaining.

LordReed:
These are my questions again:

So any Christian who doesn't interpret the bible the same way you do is not a true Christian? Is that an inference that should be drawn from your statements?

LordReed:
BTW do you think there's any Christian that has been posting on NL that you think has the same interpretation of the bible as you have and who is that person?

LordReed:
On Nairaland there're several Christians I can mention who do not share your interpretation so please answer the questions.