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FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 12:03am On Oct 31, 2012
davidylan: Sigh. I answered the question as early as page 30. Sometimes you shld read before making hasty conclusions.

Again i dont understand the correlation between your harping about violent women and this thread in general. Where did the women here tell you they were pulling knives on their husbands? In the domestic abuse cases i have ever seen, none were down to a woman being violent. It seems to me that you are posting on an entirely different subject. Perhaps you would like to open a separate thread to address your issues.
Earlier in this thread someone asked you that do men just wake up and start beating their spouse and you replied YES that some men just do that. Which I dont believe 100%

You were also of the opinion that whatever a woman did is inconsequential in cases of abuse, She is always right.

Here now you are telling us from the bolded that abuses you have seen are always 100% the insane husband just waking up and deciding to exercise with the wife whic I think is ridiculous BTW.

Dont you think some cases of abuse might have been triggered by an equally "insane woman"? or Insanity is the exclusive preserve of men?

The example I stated in my previous post, If the man who was killed have struggled and overpowered his wife to collect thee knife, REAL men like you would have come forth to tell us how he isnt a REAL man for struggling with a woman despite his life being on the line.

But in the world of absolutes of the REAL men, Never touch a woman under any circumstance.
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:46pm On Oct 30, 2012
^^

If thats the case then maybe we should all just default and blame every victim of abuse the same question "Where did you get your spouse", or other women come in and sanctimoniously declare "I would never marry such a man" , "Were you blind during dating", "You were attracted by 6 packs, money, fame and hunger to be called MRS"
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:36pm On Oct 30, 2012
davidylan: Your point being? undecided
Like i said earlier, you're simply scraping the bottom of the logical barrel in a desperate bid to justify your own inherent proclivity for pushing your spouse around just to show that "i am the man".
Simple question you have been dodging since. In a situation where you are being threatened would you attempt to save your own life when a woman is the attacker or you default to the REAL men dont touch women under any condition

Below is one of the situation we are made to believe doesnt happen and are just conjectures

Queens woman stabs husband to death: police
ERIK BADIA
Wednesday, September 05, 2012

A woman has been busted in the stabbing death of her husband at their Queens home early Wednesday, police sources said.

The alleged killer, 38, plunged a knife into the neck of her 45-year-old spouse after they argued in their home on 145th Ave. in Jamaica, sources said. The man died at the scene on the quiet south Queens block after the 4:30 a.m. attack.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-09-05/news/33623436_1_stabs-queens-block-queens-home
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:28pm On Oct 30, 2012
Ihedinobi: Damn! What's sitting on your neck? huh Smh
Default to the above when you have no points
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:27pm On Oct 30, 2012
davidylan: I think at this point i will simply ignore sleekdot and coogar's posts... winning an argument should not come at the expense of common sense.
You mean its common sense to imagine that a man can after watching Super Eagles, wake up his wife and beat her mercilessly without anything happening before but its not commonsense that some women can be violent to the extent of threatening physical injuries to their husband and the only way out is by the use of a superior force by the man
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:23pm On Oct 30, 2012
Ihedinobi: Well darn! When all else fails, the darn hypothetical's gotta be pulled out.

Assuming such a scenario is even conceivable, it's evident, as David said, I made the wrong call choosing her. And, oh yeah, I'd get her off my mom and dispossess her of the weapon however I can manage that.

Now I've answered you, can you draw a parallel between that hypothetical and the subject under discussion here?
You mean its inconceivable for a woman to be violent to attack her MIL or to attack her husband. No wonder some posters earlier have alluded to it that some people dont want to hear the truth. Coogar mentioned earlier a show called "Snapped" which shows women that killed their spouses. So if you are in a situation to save your life by using your physical strenght to disarm a woman or your wife You would act the REAL MAN and walk out. Excellent.
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:09pm On Oct 30, 2012
davidylan: Ok this is now turning into a joke.
Do we now have to turn to clearly ridiculous situations just to prove a point? If my wife is beating my mom then SHAME on me for lacking enough good judgement in selecting a mate.
Then can we also conclude this thread by saying shame on the women who chose to marry those men who are abusing them for lacking enough judgment?

With regard to your second point... get serious bro. You have now moved to a completely different scenario, when it comes to life and death... you do need to protect yourself however that is not the point of this thread.
The point is there are no absolutes in life. I pray never to be in a situation to beat a woman. I would leave it at that but saying I wont defend myself in a case of life and death because the attacker is a woman is plain idealistic.


I pray never to kill another human but if I meet a man r@pping my daughter and I have a gun then at that point I would make an exception to my prayers
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 11:05pm On Oct 30, 2012
cotton101: sleekot - those examples are a bit extreme

lets be real here - ABEG
are you saying there are no violent women out there who beat their MIL or go violent and stab their husband? Just like men beating women that we have spent days here are a bit extreme, I believe there are women too who can be extreme
FamilyRe: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by sleekdot(m): 10:57pm On Oct 30, 2012
Ihedinobi and David

Let me ask, If your wife is sitting on your mom and beating/choking the life out of her. Would you walk out like a REAL MAN?

What of if a woman grabs a knife and threaten to stab you in a close room with little to manoever and the only option is a struggle with her, Would you act the REAL MAN and put your hands down?
Technology MarketRe: SOLD-Neatly Used BB Torch 1 For Sale 33k Price Reduced SOLD!!! by sleekdot(m): 9:55pm On Oct 22, 2012
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FamilyRe: Pls Help Am I Decieved by sleekdot(m): 9:50pm On Sep 24, 2012
Dude,infidelity in marriage no b "beans".IMO,send her back to her folks,let them talk some sense into her head. or send an email to customerservice@cheaters.com grin, consider separation 4 awhile
FamilyRe: Should I Cheat On Him? by sleekdot(m): 9:27pm On Sep 24, 2012
[quote author=chioma.t]our marriage is barely one year old, and my husband is already cheating on me. should i cheat on him back?[/quote]"Two wrongs do not make a right" also, U might b doing something wrong,check yourself,if U find nothing wrong den CHEAT! grin
RomanceRe: My Girlfriend Wants Me To Break Her Virginity: What I'm Going To Do? by sleekdot(m): 9:18pm On Sep 24, 2012
lol "She gets high each time we make love" n shes a V-yanshhuh Y d F do U hv ur cell phn number on herehuh
PoliticsRe: Which Geo-political Zone Resists True Federation? by sleekdot(m): 11:29pm On Aug 20, 2012
The answer is plain

Ibo land SE, they are the leech of the country, you see them all over the place
PoliticsRe: Jonathan: With Prayers, We'll Overcome Nigeria's Problems by sleekdot(m):
Na wa o
CrimeRe: Enugu Community Where Old Women Are Molested By Youngmen!!! by sleekdot(op): 7:21pm On Aug 20, 2012
[size=14pt]The traditional ruler of Ogbozalla community of OpI Nsukka, (apparently the most affected community), in Nsukka local council, Igwe Fabian Ogbuabo, while briefing the public hearing, said the continuous rape of old women in his domain was caused by the women's non-compliance with the payment of N100 security levy.

"The women were told to pay N100 each as security levy to prevent them from being raped, since they are the targets, but they refused paying and this has made the Neighbourhood Watch to relax in the performance of ensuring the safety of their lives" the Igwe, is one-time Secretary to the Enugu State Government (SSG).[/size]
CrimeEnugu Community Where Old Women Are Molested By Youngmen!!! by sleekdot(op): 7:16pm On Aug 20, 2012
Even after Enugu State Governor, Sullivan Chime, in October 2011 during an interaction with media executives and reporters in the state, raised an outcry over the reported cases of old women being gang-raped with bravado, one would have expected the said rapists and their alleged sponsors to quickly end the abominable.

"This is very strange. If you look at the age bracket of the victims, it's quite strange. The culprits, to me, should be examined. I don't think they are well; they must be sick upstairs. It's not normal. Why should teenagers be after 62, 80 years old women? Except we are told that the young girls have fled the community. If not, you can't explain this type of thing."

The governor further said, "But what we are sure is that government is not taking kindly the issue of rape. Of course, you know the punishment for rape. So is serious enough and anybody caught will be dealt with. Rape is a life jail offence. So if a boy of 18 years wants to go to jail for life for playing with an 80-year old woman, so be it. It's unfortunate." But less than one year after, the deviants have called Chime's warning bluff and continued with arrogance in their reported unlawful and anti-social activities!

Sunday Trust learnt that on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 a 5-man Ad-hoc Committee, set up by the Enugu State House of Assembly to thoroughly investigate the incessant rape of old women in Opi, held a public hearing with some of the stakeholders in the affected community. That was after some of the Enugu-based NGOs had, on June 19, 2021 mobilised and protested to the state assembly against rape. Thereupon a member of the House, Chika Ene, moved a motion leading to the formation of the ad-hoc committee to probe the rape issue.

The committee, which had Mr. Michael Onyeze and Hon. (Mrs) Chika Eze, as Chairman and Vice Chairman respectively, was made up of Mr Chinedu C. Nwamba, Dr Emeka Igwuabor and George Nwankw as members. The committee invited the four traditional rulers of the autonomous community of Opi and other stakeholders such as the chairman and the Vice chairman of Opi Community; the council leaders; Rev. Father of the Catholic Church, Opi; chairman of Opi town Union, Abuja branch; women leaders of Ogbo-Ozalla, Ibeku and Idi Opi; town union leaders; chairmen of various communities; various NGOs such as Umuada Igbo, Women Aid Collective (WACOL),National Association of Women Journalists (NAWOJ), Hope Givers Initiative (HOGI), National Council of Women Society, Catholic Women Association, Opi and others at the council secretariat, Nsukka to the public hearing on the issue of rape.

The traditional ruler of Ogbozalla community of OpI Nsukka, (apparently the most affected community), in Nsukka local council, Igwe Fabian Ogbuabo, while briefing the public hearing, said the continuous rape of old women in his domain was caused by the women's non-compliance with the payment of N100 security levy.

"The women were told to pay N100 each as security levy to prevent them from being raped, since they are the targets, but they refused paying and this has made the Neighbourhood Watch to relax in the performance of ensuring the safety of their lives" the Igwe, is one-time Secretary to the Enugu State Government (SSG). The Igwe's speech attracted a lot of verbal missiles from the participants, including the committee members who reprimanded him.

In her submission, a woman leader in the community, Mrs Ngozi Agbo enjoined the state government and the relevant security agencies to provide adequate security for women in Opi since youths who are specialists in raping old women are hunting for their heads. The women of Ogbozalla and Ibeku community no longer sleep in their houses for fear of being gang-raped by red-eyed young men allegedly roaming the town looking for women to defile, according to Madam Agbo, who shed tears as she briefed the committee. Her speech drew tears from the participants at the public hearing when she reminded them that the women now sleep outside the community because of the menace of the rampaging rapists.

Agbo also told the committee that the raping of old women had become a recurring saga because the rapists received undue protection and support from some wealthy and influential members of the area who, she said, go secretly to bail the culprits from police detention.

"We are calling on government to come to our rescue. Our traditional ruler has not helped matters; he doesn't live in the community. He and his family live in Enugu city and because of this, he has shown little concern in our sufferings," she said pitifully.

The Parish Priest of St. Charles Parish, Rev. Fr. Martins Ozioko, alleged that the leaders of the community were fond of introducing "local politics" in the matter they should have come out to condemn strongly.

"This case will not stop until the leaders and politicians come out boldly to condemn this evil. Opi is now a mystery of sort but my joy is that one day everybody will give account of his stewardship on earth before God," Fr. Ozioko said.

However, the Chairman of Nsukka Local Government Area, Barrister Tony Ugwu, said he was surprised by the media publicity given the rape issue by the groups championing the case. He said they never bothered to report to the council authorities before rushing to invite the press.

"It is unfortunate that as the Chief Security Officer of the council, none of the so-called NGOs thought it wise to come to me before going to the media. I read everything about the rape on the pages of newspapers and they have been cashing in on this to make money for themselves," he said. Ugwu neither supported nor condemned the rape; he did not proffer any solution to the insecurity problem facing the old women in the area.

The various NGOs strongly condemned the brazen rape of old women, insisting that such shameful act attracted heaps of curses and retrogression (backwardness) to the communities and persons involved in it. The NGOs, in their submissions, made 7-point recommendations, insisting that the Enugu State government should quickly come to the aid of the women who have been raped by sorting out their health conditions, while calling for the reorganisation of the town's security outfit as well as an establishment of a police post at Ogbo-Ozalla community.

The NGOs also called for the removal of the Igwe if he continues to live outside his domain, and appealed for non-stigmatization of neither any of the rape victims nor taxing of any woman for security reasons. They advised that all the people with questionable characters in the area should be reported to the police for possible prosecution in a competent law court.

"Rape is not just barbaric but also inhuman. The mere mention of this four letter word sends goose pimples and fear in every woman both sane and insane. The consequences of rape ranges from medical, psychological, emotional, distress, depression and so on, and that is why every right-thinking person and government should go against such heinous crime," said Mrs Onyeka Udegbunam, the Executive Director, Hope Givers Initiative (HOGI), one of the NGOs crusading against the rape of women in the area.

The Opi Nsukka case is one that has brought to the fore the various consequences of rape as well as the nonchalant attitude towards conviction of perpetrators and lack of care for the victims who immediately after the act is so traumatised and stigmatised to be able to seek medical attention, according to the NGOS.

Onyeze called for cooperation from all the stakeholders, emphasising that with sincerity, they will arrive at a solution that will end the problem. He expressed disgust at the native ruler, Igwe Ogbo-Ozalla for forcing women to pay for their security so that they will not be raped. "This is unfair," Onyeze remarked angrily.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201208190202.html
PoliticsRe: HELP!!! Osun State On The Verge Of Being Islamised. by sleekdot(m): 6:19pm On Aug 20, 2012
Security operatives all over the world profiles criminals by dressing.

If you wear some kind of cloth in US you stand a chance of being arrested.

E.g If you wear skimpy clothes on Allen, You stand a chance of being arrested as a prostitute etc.

I don't think it cost you anything to dress responsibly

The way you are dressed you would be addressed. You dressed like a thief, you would be addressed as one
PoliticsRe: Fulani Herdsmen Kill Two Teenagers In Enugu by sleekdot(m): 7:04pm On Aug 19, 2012
[quote author=Intrepid!]Doesn't take away the unassailable fact that the Yorubas are fucking cowards and lousy, utterly useless fighters.[/quote]Useless fighters who butchered 3m of your people and forced the bravest Igbo man to flee to Abidjan LOL
PoliticsRe: Fulani Herdsmen Kill Two Teenagers In Enugu by sleekdot(m):
Na wa for them
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Killed Lt. Col. Banjo: Why? I Need to get to the root of this matter... by sleekdot(m):
centje: and u actually think u undertand what happen then with this ur post.

Starvation came when food supply frm charity agencies like red cross,france and few african countries where cut off by the nigerian govt. There's no way you wuld espect ppl to farm in war time. The war needed to end to save the lives of civilians women and children.
Is Biafra not supposed to find a way of getting their own supply?
PoliticsRe: Ojukwu Killed Lt. Col. Banjo: Why? I Need to get to the root of this matter... by sleekdot(m): 2:09pm On Aug 19, 2012
Igbos and their ancestral stupidity again

Only a Yiboman would expect his enemies at war to feed him

Bunch of cannibals

No wonder your coward leader fled to Abidjan

www.nairaland.com/attachments/789775_Ojukwu_getting_ready_to_run_jpg967aeb75e390ca75377ad019b3c9fae5
PoliticsRe: FG Indicts Conoil, MRS, Capital Oil, 18 Others by sleekdot(m): 12:37am On Aug 19, 2012
Story story.

So what are we going to do with them?
PoliticsRe: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by sleekdot(m):
Obi1kenobi: It's always funny hearing another of the myriad of insular Yoruba fellas telling us to go back to our 'erosion ravaged villages'. They've obviously spent too much time in Lagos and know nothing about what their real communities in other SW states look like. It's hard to join words with an Oyo man born and raised in Lagos who has never seen his remote village before.
Can you show us what your own community looks ?

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