₦airaland Forum

Racoon:
President didn't do badly as one-tenth of what iss happening today under Tinubu but he was voted out. So the rational thing is that Tinubu will also be voted out. Never reinforce failure.

It's up to the opposition to present a strong front. Atiku plus Obi will do the trick. Anything else, may as well be a gift on a silver platter to Tinubu.

Betgold84:
Distractions
Nigeria youths
Do the needful
Avoid distraction

Avoid distractions, avoid distractions. Before this case came up, what were your personal interventions towards good governance?

Chienex24:
As usual, Nigerians are their own worst enemies and are always enemies of progress. Very negative thinking and envious people over other people's growth

I have never seen this kind of behavior from any other nation on earth. Unfortunately, when I check the identities of individuals who think and talk like this, they are always the known ethnic jingoists on the forum so it becomes clear where the criticism is coming from.

Sad but true!

2RightHands1Coc:
What is this one saying. That's how you people brainwashed Gullible Nigerians

What's your occupation and highest level of education? I'm confident you don't have any business commenting on this issue.

Kukutente23:
So what the statistics show is how much per person has been obtained as debt

I don't like it when I keep writing and folks keep not getting it intentionally. I already wrote the above to show you the information the debt per capita gives us
Your last question is a very simple question albeit shocking. It's just as if you're asking for the usefulness of average calculation in secondary school statistics. I believe anyone who has passed through school can tell us the usefulness of the calculation of average.
Again, you keep wrongly assuming that the debt figures will never change which is why you are asking of "when the debts are paid off". That scenario is not feasible. Debts don't get totally paid off especially national debt. What I pointed to was the increase in those charges as one of the consequences of increase in national debt. I never said they exist solely because of national debt. In an ideal situation, if the national debt gets wiped off, a lot of those charges should be reviewed downwards or the money ploughed into social welfare programs

You're a funny guy. Do you think typing up paragraphs of gibberish hides the fact that you clearly don't know anything about economics? Stop it. You're not in your village where you intimidate farmers with high sounding nonsense.

Now, what is the economic significance of knowing how much has been collected per person? Or do you think economic and statistical ratios are for decoration?

Let me give you an example: GDP per capita is an indicator of wealth. It allows us to infer what living conditions may be like for individuals in a nation.

So now that we know how much debt has been collected per person, what insight does that give us?

Kukutente23:
Gdp per capita does not also take cognisance of those who have died or the birth rate and yet it's considered a valid means of representing the average distribution of national gdp

I think the writer expects you to know that the debt will not remain at a single value over 10 years for example since more will be borrowed and some will be fully liquidated before then. So what he's giving is a nominal view of the debt per head or per capita.

For a country of 63% poverty, what it means is that at least 63% of the population have not felt the impact of the debt but will still be expected to be part of the repayment which they cannot afford. It paints a dire picture.

Of course govt will not call you to transfer cash to pay national debt. But what exactly do you think is the reason you're now paying N50 for every 10k you transfer? Why are you paying more for fuel because govt says they can't afford subsidy? What about VAT? Why are you paying more than ever before? The cost of drivers licence, national id, passport and CofO have all risen by over 100% in the past two years!

All these are revenue generation tactics that part of it will go into paying the debt. So don't think because no one calls your number to request for bulk payment of debt, you're individually exempted from payment.

So what the statistics show is how much per person has been obtained as debt. But the question is if it reflects in the living of the average person.

Perhaps you don't understand the question.

I've not asked what the impact of debt is on the average man. I have asked what information debt per capita gives us. In the context, you shouldn't be telling me that the government collects 50 naira on 10k transfers, you should show how this relates to the debt per capita figure. is it that when your own share of the debt has been paid off, the 50 naira will no longer be charged? Show the relationship, if any (of course there's none).

Again, that the government has debt is not the question. That the government needs revenue to pay for debt is not the question. That the government collects taxes alongside other sources of revenue is not the question.

We already know this from the gross debt figures released by the DMO. So the question is what information does debt per capita give us to make it useful?

Kukutente23:
Oh I see
It's just like gdp per capita
There's nothing annoying there as well
It's a valid computation

What is it's valid purpose?

The computation factors every Nigerian currently living but at the same time the Alaje explains that the debt will be passed on to those unborn, which means the figure he has computed has no real meaning.

With every new birth, it changes. So funny enough, the figure calculated yesterday which we have in the post won't be the same if recalculated today.

So, if you want to even begin to make the computation sound somewhat meaningful, you will have to factor in the expected number of births across the expected lifetime of the debt. Let us assume another 10 years. Without factoring the number of projected net births in this period, the computation has no value.

Secondly, has there ever been a time Nigerians have been called upon to individually contribute to the repeated of national debt?

Even your taxes, are they computed on the basis of what you owe per capita of the national debt or on the basis of what you earn?

So you tell me, what is the value of this so-called statistic?

Kukutente23:
It's the Debt Management Office
There's nothing annoying about it

That means you don't understand what you've read up there. The DMO releases gross debt figures, not debt owed per individual.

The figure of debt owed by each individual was computed by one Dr Alaje.

And it is annoying to me.

ZombieTERROR:
what revenue? the one not enough for your budgets and overhead..

Any supporter of this terrible administration like you should request for account number

The reason revenue is not enough is because of debt obligations...thus, it's a circular argument. Digest that if you can.

The bulk of debt will be paid off by oil revenue. It has always been done this way. People who get into all these irrational computations are annoying.

Indirectly saying she's bored with his gentle ways and needs a little toxicity to help her feel like a little girl again. Ah this gender o.

akpumping7720:
Say no to cultism. Post says 'cult leader'. Those in the video linked his death to politics. Confusion everywhere.

Does the fact that he's a cult leader mean his death cannot be linked to politics?

donleo92:
Okay bye,

Do have a lovely evening sir

Same to you.

donleo92:
Are you a government worker??

Or do you work with firs?

If yes, then I can engage you in these discussions, but if no, I better will remain silent

I would make reference to the covid 19. Citizens in uk were paid by their government some relief amount, can't really remember, but will get it from my friend, who at that time was in uk for studies.

But here in Nigeria, nothing like that happened.


So my question, why do we pay tax

Like I said, I will only engage you, if you are a government worker or work with firs

I have just answered you as to why you pay tax. You pay tax because you use the roads. Because the police are paid a salary to attend to you. Because there are federal universities that you can go to, which are among the cheapest anywhere in the world becasue the government subsidises them heavily.

You left all these to talk about COVID payments as though COVID payments--even in the UK--are the anticipated primary purpose of taxes.

If you opt to remain silent, that is not any concern of mine. In fact, it would be better to do that than to spread ignorant views.

donleo92:
Make una dey play oooooh

Why should I be paying tax self?

I keep asking that question ⁉️

I pay for my own medical healthcare
I pay for my own water
I pay for my own security ( compound and street security)

I pay for my kids school fees

I pay for my own transportation fare.

I buy petrol the exact price, because of the removal of fuel subsidy

I even pay for electricity that I dont see

I pay for outrageous house rents..

So where is the government coming in??

E be like thunda won fire this man

People who go to federal universities do they pay as much as State univerisites or private universities? Where do you think the balance comes from?
The money you pay when you visit a government hospital, do you think it truly reflects the value of the services rendered?
The roads you drive on, you paid for this from your pocket, too?
The police you will report to when your neighbour gives you a blow on your left eye, you put them on salary from your pocket?

We live in an imperfect country, but for you to gaslight yourself that you don't need to pay tax is ridiculous. Taxes are the foundation of every modern economy. The day your favourite politician enters office, he or she too will need your tax revenue to do basic things for you.

Neoteny:
The title says "man in army uniform"

I've not said otherwise.

Neoteny:
Allegedly she's a lady, or allegedly she was in an obvious fight with a uniformed man?

what's alleged here?

It is alleged that the man is a soldier but it is not confirmed because he could be an imposter.

How does one make "open" admissions behind closed doors? That was a private admission.

This information is useless in any case as every reasonable person knows that Peter Obi was never close to winning.

BreakingNews21:
An advisory is voluntary, but an order is mandatory. Punch newspaper done confuse my brain on this one. 😐

There's an order to staff and advice to general citizens. Tshe your time to read properly and you won't be confused.

NOETHNICITY:
Your analogy is dumbest one I’ve ever seen.

Makes zero sense
Zero correlation

Well, that's an obvious indictment on your processing powers. Too bad.

NOETHNICITY:
See how you avoided the points I made?
Iran was not in charge of the straits of Hormuz before this unprovoked war, now it is.
Iranian regime change dream never happened
Iranian missiles are intact.

Now tell me how this isn’t victory for Iran

Try to comport yourself so you can understand simple things like the basic analogy I shared up there. Let's try again: Someone came to your house to beat you and take your TV, he only beat you ad broke your hand but left the TV, you now ran into the streets claiming you beat him up.

Is that a better analogy for you to grasp the point?

For your information: Iran has always been in charge of the Straits of Hormuz because it falls within their territorial waters under international law. What seems to be confusing you is the fact that they now charge a toll, which they weren't doing before.

If you don't even understand your own talking points, why should I engage you on the substance?

Most likely these are legitimate officers doing what the police call illegal duty; i.e no one sent them to that location to do any such thing.

NOETHNICITY:
Iran absolutely won the and Isreali politicians are mad about it right now. Even Americans are aghast at the level of defeat
1, Iranian regime remains intact, Infact more acceptable by the people now than prewar times.

2, Irans missiles capability remains intact.

Lastly, Iran reopens the straits of Hormuz while supervising ship passage in conjunction with Oman (meaning that tolling remains as a condition for transit)

What you are doing is like someone beating you 5 - 0, then you say you won because they didn't beat you 10 - 0. Rest abeg.

Incognito403:
I see how much sense you're making here.
OBJ the grand patron of corruption is your example of good leader and good Christian?

And Yar'Adua is not even a good leader in your books.

Case closed.

The grand patrons of corruption on a scale never seen in the history of this nation are Babangida and Abacha.

You don't have anything to offer.

fergie001:
SmartyPants.....you see what I was telling you in the morning.

I get you.

Incognito403:
Lol. Obasanjo and Gowon were the founders of modern Nigeria's corruption. Jona is just a clueless zoom-bae.

I like how you dropped Yar'Adua and Idiagbon.

Redeemers University goes around sponsoring thugs to kill innocent Muslims in Ede, Osun just as America is sponsoring the Kurds against their government.

You need to read beyond the news so you can see the church for what it really is.

You're not making much sense here. Yar Adua barely had any impact on this nation. We were set on the path to prosperity by the Obasanjo you are trying to malign. The little Yaradua did in his time was destructive: i.e undoing Obasanjo's privatisation policies and revoking the sale of the national refineries to Otedola and Dangote. So what was the thing he did that you feel made sense?

And did Tunde Idiabgon ever rule the nation? Why would he be considered when a comparison of presidents is being made?

No one says Christians are perfect either. We have a number of rogues within our midsts but when we make a side by side comparison there is absolutely not one single positive metric wherein Christians have not outperformed all others.

fergie001:
Which figure of speech is "I will shoot you."?

Just apologise and continue your 'thing'.

I have never threatened to shoot or kill anybody in my life
I am not a public officer
I didn't say it on National TV
I do not say it severally as this is not the first time he has been caught saying this.

Anybody saying otherwise is been irrational.

PS: That's not hyperbole..... It is an exaggeration of a point.
What was the Minister exaggerating?

There is no debate over propriety. The minister should be more dignified than to speak so loosely in public. However, we are talking about whether he meant it literally or not. Now to put this particular issue to bed, let's consult a neutral arbiter in ChatGPT, and this is what it says when asked to explain hyperbole, and whether the minister's comments could be taken as hyperbole in this situation:

Fom ChatGPT:

Hyperbole is a figure of speech involving deliberate exaggeration for emphasis, often by inflating a reaction or scenario to an extreme that is not meant to be taken literally; it does not require a numerical overstatement but can instead exaggerate intensity or response. The other poster misinterprets this by treating hyperbole as only valid where a specific claim is being overstated (e.g., “a million times”), whereas in reality, exaggerating one’s reaction—such as invoking extreme violence over a trivial or abstract situation—fits squarely within hyperbolic usage. In this case, the statement is clearly hyperbolic because it is built on an impossible premise (“if I could break into the TV”), which signals non-literal intent, and the “shoot him” element functions as the exaggerated reaction, expressing frustration in an over-the-top, non-serious way rather than a genuine or actionable threat.

fergie001:
Which figure of speech is "I will shoot you."?

Just apologise and continue your 'thing'.

This is mischievous because you definitely know better. We have all, at one time or another, jokingly threatened to beat, shoot, fight, or otherwise harm a friend or family member, and it is understood beyond all doubt that such comments are HYPERBOLE. This is nothing but flogging a dead horse because it happened to fall dead in the compound of the neighbour you don't like.

Incognito403:
Abi oo.

Why do people not learn? Bigotry and hate is a really big disease. It blocks sense and logic.

Which country has America ever helped out of a problem?

They are only after oil and resources.

Nigerian christians are the obstacle holding this country back.

The earlier the country breaks itself from. the bondage of 5he church like UK amd Europe did, the sooner we will start to see progress. Otherwise, expect nothing good.

Why do you want to gaslight yourself?

Check well. Every period of prosperity this nation has ever enjoyed has been under a Christian. Right from Gowon to Obasanjo to Jonathan. And consistently, those from the other side have stepped in to plunge the nation into chaos.

Who goes about killing people? You know the answer. Who breeds masses of uneducated people who are unable to contribute to the economy? You know the answer.

Every good thing about Nigeria is a product of Nigerian Christians. Is that not so?

Even you know that we are managing you people and you have been a terrible burden on us.

DeepSight:
Anyone who thinks there were no further casualties in this operation must be assuming too much at this stage.

I've not seen anything to suggest any such. Mere cursory examination of the available photos shows both downed aircraft wrecks in the exact same location. What is the likelihood of two separate aircraft crashing within 20 - 30 feet of each other? That fits the U.S narrative of having self-destructed the aircraft due to the inability to evacuate them at the time. This is a well-known U.S operational tactic which was also used in the Bin Laden raid when one of the helicopters was damaged during the landing.

Samunosuke:
He didn’t mean it literally. Okay.

What is the figurative meaning of shot? These people want to gaslight us and rewrite the English language. If you can’t speak English properly, use your native language and hire an interpreter.

You know a little but you don't know as much as you think.

You’re assuming that anything non-literal must be metaphorical, but that’s not accurate. Figurative language includes hyperbole, irony, and other rhetorical devices.

In this case, the statement is hyperbolic. The word “shot” doesn’t take on a figurative meaning, but the way it’s used in context is exaggerated for effect. That exaggeration is what makes the expression figurative.