₦airaland Forum

Obiagelli: and we are going to spend 700billion next year servicing that budget.

I agree that it's not ideal or proper.
$9billion is too small for us to start attempting debt servicing of that magnitude.
The ministry of finance need to do something about it.

gbanikiti: could you please stop responding to those who are hell bent on bringing ethnic and religious sentimental nonsense to your thread?

Would you shut up and get lost.
I'm sure you are either too blind or too retardedd to realize that it was the OP that started the thread with religious sentiments.

Obiagelli: you are going the same line why this thread was created, are you north xtian? why are speaking for them? Who is the lair here? Why did you attack me when also share the bigoted sentiments.

Don't put words in my mouth,girl.
I did not say i share those religious sentiments,infact i condemned it.
I was only stating the current and most likely voting pattern of christian Northerners.

trillville: I am Christian and northerner so I guess I qualify to give my opinion.
I personally do not support GEJ because I feel his is too loose with federal money, and it almost seems like he wants to bankrupt the country. again he fails to take charge of his officials, so anything goes in most of our agencies and commissions now.

For The average northern Christian, voting GEJ depends mainly on who the opposition presents as their candidate. I am providing a list of possible candidates that stand a very good chance of getting the north Christian vote over jonathan. Some are currently members of PDP.


NORTH WEST
1. Kwankwaso
2. Markarfi
3. Tambawal
4. Shekarau
5. El rufai
6. Sanusi Lamido Sanusi
NORTH EAST
1. Ribadu
2. Goje
NORTH CENTRAL
1. Saraki
2. A. Babangida
SOUTH EAST
1. Ezekwesili
2. Rochas
3. Chime
4. Ngige
5. Akunyili
6. Barth nnaji
SOUTH SOUTH
1. Duke
2. Ameachi
3. Oshoimole
4. NOI
5. Tony Elumelu
6. Pat utomi
7. akpabio
SOUTH WEST
1. Babatunde Fashola
2. Aregbesola

What do you mean GEJ is loose with federal money and wants to bankrupt Nigeria?
So you expect devt in a in a tight-fisted government?
What did the previous tight-fisted govts achieve?
Look at our debt profile of just $9billion for 170million people compared to the US,UK and southafrica with debt profiles of $13trillion,$5trillion and $40billion and two of those nations have far less mouths to feed with far bigger economy than Nigeria.
Is it any wonder that Nigeria still lacks adequate basic infrastructure?
I'm not saying we should borrow recklessly.
I'm saying we should be less tight-fisted with funds for devt and borrow if need be,and also ensure the adequate monitoring of projects those funds were meant for.

Btw,it's obvious beyond all doubts that the majority of christian northerners are pro-GEJ.
Though our voting pattern should mature beyond religious bias.

Obiagelli: where is the bigotry in this thread? Hipocrate, your likes have been speaking for this people all over nairaland, did you call them to order? What is wrong in asking to hear from the pple themselves.

I don't know what you're telling about.
I'm sure those people you are accusing of religious bigotry are not denying the fact that they are bigot.
You on the other hand, claim to appeal to a higher form of politics devoid of bigotry,yet you can't act like it.
You're a hypocrite,girl.

Shame on you for stoking the embers of religious bigotry.
And yet your profile says you're not a bigot.
Bloody hypocrite.
I'm not surprised anyway,buhari did it first.

HNosegbe: I understand the points being made by solomon111 and co about the need for quality education, but my question is: MUST QUALITY EDUCATION BE OVERLY EXPENSIVE?

I think the issue is getting a sense of direction as to where we see Nigeria in the 21st century. In other climes education policies are formed within the context of a national plan. India wanted to create a generation of smart, savvy software engineers, so they proactively designed an education system with emphasis on engineering, mathematics and physics. Of course the fruits are evident today, with many of the in-demand software scientists being from that country.

So we need to design an education system that matches our developmental aspirations. Do we want to become a low-tech manufacturing hub? Then train artisans. Do we want to become a centre for financial services? Then train the investment bankers. Entertainment? Where are the music and drama incubation centres? Agriculture? Then train the farmers.

My point is: Quality education that can liberate our people from the shackles of poverty and give them a shot at life is not necessarily too expensive. Let's make it cheaply available and compulsory for ALL Nigerians first. We can work on improving quality as we go along. And as we emphasise more technical/practical than theoretical education then the issue of job creation gets tackled.

Education is already very cheap in Nigeria,though at unsatisfactory quality.
Making it free,which is what APC is proposing is ludacrious.
We should be looking at increasing quality which would invariably drive the cost of education up.
Quality education anywhere in the world even in india is expensive.
APC should stop preying on the ignorance of Nigerians by suggesting or proposing daftt,anti-progressive,anti-developmental policies.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]I don’t think we disagree on very much but when we start joining unrelated issues, it would appear so. The purpose of free education, as far as tertiary institutions go is to provide relief for families who have children in our Universities. As you know, the children of our multi-millionaires and billionaires go abroad or to very high priced private universities.

No one is saying that free education should be the only program which the education ministry should focus on. Some of the good points you made above must also be looked into by the education ministry. The details of education programs are not typically found in political platforms. The point of this thread is to put folks on notice that high quality free education is very possible and will be a goal of APC.

Having said that, I agree with you that the issue of population, subsidized education, skills, unemployment, industry and productivity are very important. The current administration has obviously failed when it comes to comprehensive programs to address these issues.

It is very important to stay focused when discussing the free education issue; else we run the risk of introducing logical fallacies which may include changing of the subject. I’d recommend that you open a thread to discuss the issue of population, skills acquisition, unemployment, industry and productivity to hash them out. Great ideas are needed to tackle these issues. Thanks for your contribution to the thread.[/quote]The last time i checked,LASU is by far the most expensive govt-owned uni in Nigeria.
Don't you think APC should start from there,or are they waiting to get to the centre before doing anything?

ilugunboy: Name one or two....

No need for that.
Go and click on sincere9gerian's profile and read till you're satisfied.

lol @ cameroon.
Their entire defence budget is less than that of the Nigerian police.
They're not a problem at all.
Their entire military apparatus can be neutralized in 72 hours.
Unfortunately,France is what makes invading cameroon a complicated issue.
We'll need to begin aggressive military procurement policy for the airforce which is currently absent, to ensure significant deterrence against french rafales.

tpacalipse: We all know what Obj did or did not do. But kindly show us any thing of benefit that Gej has done.

So all these numerous projects that are always being highlighted on nairaland are not of benefit?
May you remain blind to GEJ's achievements.

An alternative for dingbats and the politically unenlightened.

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Once again, it is sad for me to state that most of you are quite ignorant of how blessed Nigeria is, in both natural and human resources. It is this ignorance that makes well meaning people like you to believe that it is not possible to offer quality education, freely to Nigerians.

I challenge you to do a small research on how much money has been stolen by government officials in 2013 alone and limit your research to proven thefts only (news paper accounts or court records could be used). Then add the amount of crude oil stolen in the same year, then add the over N700 billion lost as a result of import waivers issued by the ministry of finance. You'll soon find out that if only 10% of the sum is channeled properly, there will be enough to provide the said quality education freely to Nigerians.

A regime change will make this obvious soon enough. Folks, we are on the verge of the greatest level of development ever experienced in our history and the good news is that providence is on the side of Nigerians.[/quote]For a country of 170million with a GDP of 390billion,there's nothing rich about Nigeria atleast for now.
Even in california with a GDP of $1trillion for just 5million people,education there is very expensive.
Unless you want poor and highly sub-standard tertiary institutions,education can never be free at all levels.

Toktee: The biblical solomon was very wised but you are not,niger state governor decleared free education in niger state frm primary school to tertiary institutions and it works,i benefited frm it ok.

shut up,you brainless morøn.
We're talking of quality education and you're telling me of one morønic governor dishing out a watered-down education system to his deluded masses.
How rich is Niger-state or even Nigeria for you to start implementing free tertiary education?
America is the largest economy in the world,the amount of money they spend on harvard alone is more than our entire budget for education, yet tertiary education is still very expensive there.
Go and get some proper education.

This's not a big deal especially when you take the pecuilarity of the Nigerian society into factor.
Eating in public restaurants is not a function of a good president or good governance.

Any political office holder or party that promises free education at all levels is an enemy of Nigeria's advancement.
Education is not and cannever be free at all levels,if you want quality.
Anybody that campaigns with that has already proven himself unsuited for the post.

olas24u: Dividing the country along religious lines.

You're a morøn.
So other muslim presidents did not attend the mosques during their islamic celebrations?
Why not go and read your books instead of commenting on issues beyond you?

Btw,why're some idiotts poke-nosing in someone else's business?
Why should it concern you if biafra becomes like south-sudan which is highly unlikely?

kettykin: Please those advocates for
Biafra should realise that as soon as biafra is realised with or without ijaws nigeria is finished, Nigeria is a giant in name and what makes nigeria a power in and out of Africa is the biafran factor in Nigeria

True.
The former eastern region is the major fulcrum of Nigeria.

tpacalipse: They did not lie then about Yaradua, but they have suddenly become liars because they expose this government. Hen?

Are you blind or just retarded?
Isn't it obvious that SR lied?

lucky Don: Pat Utomi will be the best candidate for the APC to field for the elections and he will match GEJ man to man because of his brilliance and credentials but the hawks there can never nominate someone how like him.

pat utomi is the only person that can make me vote against GEJ.
That dude can cause an earthquake in GEJ's stronghold.
Unfortunately,APC is too far up the north's as$-hole to even realize that.

Usbeel: Yes, and this is what just the beginning! Unless we fought for our right step him down by force or make sure he arrives to the hell soon, the idiotic and tribalism activities of GEJ is astronomically boosting!

This is what will keep happening as our senators; reps members; 70% of northern politicians are only concerned about their pocket! They don't work in the interest of their people, they are after the oil money which makes them abandoned our natural resources, talk-less of boosting/transforming our economy!

why didn't yaradua and all your nothern presidents transform your non-existent economy?
Afterall,the north has been in power for decades.
Why're you blaming jonathan who is just in his 3rd year in office.?
Keep blaming jonathan,and don't hold your leaders responsible.
We'll see how far that will get you.

lol.
Even togo sef dey grade us.
Nigeria don suffer.

Only 50?
I expect to see thousands.
The military need to justify their allocation.

Hbuyosh: Big deal? Kenya and Ghana have developed their quite impressive infrastructure despite their meagre resources. Infact, Ghana's mineral resources is greater than Kenya's. They got gold, iron and I believe, diamonds etc, we here only talk of salt and limestone. They both discovered oil, so hopefully, things are looking up for the two little African giants.
I dare say Kenya is the largest and most developed 'non-mineral' economy in the whole of the sSahara Africa.
Just see the heavy presence of Kenyan firms operating in the whole of east and central africa. Their shop shelves are awash with goods manufactured in Kenya. So, we aren't that badly off.
And to Kwame Tut, no one has disputed the fact that SA's economy is by far larger and much more sophisticated than that of any other country in Africa. Therefore, all these arguments and statistics you are posting here are really uncalled for.

The southafrican economy is no longer the largest in Africa.
They've been displaced.
I respect kenya,but its industrial capacity cannot be compared with Nigeria or southafrica.

Sad.
I will vote for any president that can promise to go to war for bakassi.

Idiott.
What's your states govts doing with their huge allocations?
Nollywood employs thousands of Nigerians,boosts the economy and is probably more productive than the entire North-east combined.
3 billion is too small for Nollywood sef.

I wonder when the early church became synonymous with the catholic church.
lol.
These catholic people no go kill us with their fallacies.

Look at the catholics on thread bragging about their population.
They forget that Broad is the way that leads to damnation.
The fact that catholicism is the biggest dosen't validates the sect,afterall islam has over a billion adherents.
God is interested in quality not quantity.
Only eight people survived the flood in Noah's time.
No matter how old a lie is,it dosen't suddenly becomes the truth.

Not bad at all.
It's high time we've a thriving porn industry.
It would boost the economy and reduce unemployment.