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stanelvis:
If a woman is pregnant, you can do the traditional rights and white wedding without paying the bride price. You can pay the bride price later when she must have been delivered.
You can't pay the pride price of someone who is pregnant.
So the mother might be right on this.

Did the mother say she was pregnant?
Was that part of the excuses given?

Even if she was pregnant, that's more reason they would have demanded for bride price and most churches won't we a couple yet to pay bride price not to talk of being pregnant.

Rozcol:
The mom said so and I believe her,so what are you saying

Elele

TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE without bride price?

Do you know that traditional marriage is mostly done for bride price presentation?

There won't be need for that if there's no bride price.

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Trust.

Respect anyone who gives you reasons both in word and action to trust them.

Tolerance.

How does her action affect you?

Intolerance in Nigeria is widespread!

spyder880:
TRUST!

If only we know how strong these five letters are in this world. Those five letter are the foundation on which most successful businesses are formed, and retained. Everyone needs trust, trust builds goodwill, which is one of the essential ingredients for success in every business transaction. The contractors and workmen needs trust, the clients needs trust, the suppliers needs trust also.

The big question is; how do we know who to trust?

Trust is such a tricky trait that many people fake it, suppliers of materials can be supplying you with genuine products until one day, Blam! Out of the blues, they hit you with a severe fake product, or run away with your money entirely. Happens with contractors and clients too.

Many of us are products of the trust people reposed in us, I have been working for many years as a contractor, there have been good clients we worked for. In fact, excellent will be a better description. I was lured out of my full time well paying work at a popular multinational company by a client from this forum. The client convinced me to come and build his house in 2013, he paid me even before I started the work, and when I failed with the quotation going against me, he saw it as my inexperience in working in riverine areas, and promptly asked me to redraw a budget, then he paid me again to complete the work.

This same client was there to help me with every bit of information and advice, even technical skills as he was also in the engineering industry. My second and third major projects here were in that same estate, connected by the same client. I remember the day he convinced his colleague to transfer a huge amount of money to me for another new project, the client was afraid, but he told the client that if I defaulted, he will pay back the money. Such trust was rare, and I know it was God's love working. I just resigned from my then employment and went full time, building houses. I am eternally grateful to this young man, and have called him in the past to always express my appreciation for his helping me to start strong.

I have also trusted in my subordinates, the young professionals I brought into the industry, the young graduates I hired to work with me, the skilled workers who did every bit of work. Some turned out good while some, well, did what they wanted. Some old workers of mine walked away with my money in a site this year, but it's his own loss, not mine. I have brought and guided the ones that I can trust here online and many of them are actively building houses and practicing here and elsewhere, some very successful already.

I won't deceive myself to think it's just luck, or hardwork. I think its because of the help of the almighty God, the author and finisher of our faith. He is all able, almighty and the all and all.

Clients could be very difficult, but like I was taught in a Super-management training course in my former company, the customer is always right. We should only be careful not to lose money while observing their rights, we should try to please them in every way, and when we fall short of pleasing our clients, we should be open and ready to amend the situation. We are all humans and although its difficult, we can at least get a pass mark for our services.

We should also be honest, and upfront with the services we intend to render, if I am painting a house for a client for instance, I will ask for details of who goes home with the empty drums after painting, or what happens with the used planks and wood after the project is finished. These details will help in sorting out issues in the future. And when all else fails, if taking some small loss in the project won't kill us, let's take it and walk away far, to avoid problems. Such small losses will pay our tuition fees for the next few jobs, teaching us in vivid terms, how to avoid more losses.

I have taken a fair amount of losses in this field, sometimes big, sometimes small, but I always try to stay within the budget. My family will never forget April - July 2011, when I used my 4 months salary from my day job to be doing a clients work because I under quoted, and I wanted to complete the work. We went hungry and didn't have food in the house. I have also been saved from taking serious beatings when costs go against me. God bless all my clients, they have sometimes come to my rescue, paying up hundreds of thousands when it's clear I misquoted, or the market turned against our agreed budgets. God will bless you all.

I also remember paying back hundreds of thousands of naira, even millions in some cases, when I am overpaid by mistake. The client I completed his 6 flats this year in Enugu East, overpaid me by over N740,000 for some groups of jobs in the finish of the house, I called him and asked how much he paid, my Oga was sounding annoyed and insisting that he has completed the payments, I called him again to please check the amount he paid, because he paid for everything in the list, even when two of the items on the list are options to the others, when he realised he has overpaid me, he was very happy that I pointed it out, because a lot of people will just pretend they didn't see it, and go ahead and spend the money on themselves. This happened again this year, on the tall bungalow I am building now, this one is an overpayment of N366,900. I pointed it out and the client just added it in the next payment and deducted his money, with thanks. Honesty is a very good policy. The best policy in fact.

I urge all the young people in our midst, and indeed all of us, to approach business with honesty, both contractors, suppliers and clients, the most enduring businesses I have seen while growing up, were the ones where people can trust the dealer, and leave a lot of money in their business till when they need it. And the businesses use the money wisely, returning value to the investors and customers whenever they need the goods, or their money back. I want to leave a business name that my children will grow up and inherit, I want my children to stand up and say with pride, "I am the child of Spyder880".

May God grant us health and happiness while we work to achieve all these, may we get more clients and customers that will understand us, and work with us like we are their blood relatives. Amen.

Excellent.
Trust which is very expensive.

May God bless you as you continue doing your best to do the right thing.
The funds for the project I am currently executing was honestly earned and I can bodly say I can account for how each penny was earned legally so I would not want to lose a penny to anyone in the process either through abandonment, errors or delays.

Those who work for their money wouldn't want to risk it trying to cut corners.

God bless you once more.

Valuepaints20:
#fact
May God bless you for me

And you too sir.

It takes few people to spoil the system if allowed
It also takes few people to make the system work if allowed.

A good society is measured by what those inside are willing to accept and reject.

Our current state of affairs is due to what we have accepted/rejected.

You can't plant cocoyam and expect to reap Hushpuppy fraud money.

When you harden a good paying/performing client/contractor
What you get is more bad clients/contractor
What do we get in the long run?
A chain of bad looking clients and artisans /contractors

In the end, the market becomes difficult for those who earn their daily meals from it.

Remain good to those who are paying/performing and don't take their being different for a fool. It won't end well for you if not now but in the nearest future.

Some of us just don't want to join in destroying the little trust left in the society.

michlins:
some clients are awesome. First time I went to Lagos for a job, the client from here paid for my transport. When I eventually got ready to the job,he mobilized me and gave me more than a week to get ready with my workers.

Some clients are God sent. As for others, they're just humans

Too bad some of these good clients/contractors /artisans are taken for granted by some artisans/contractors/clients then end up in the hands of bad clients/artisans /contractors who show them pepper.

Kobojunkie:
Are you trying to get people to obey God because of what you see happening up north?

Are you somehow under the delusion that we are here to save mankind from itself?

Did God tells us to let our light shine because of the atrocities in the world or because that is simply what He wants for us to do in obedience of Him?

As I said, it is not enough to say you preach about God. It is better to stay mum than to preach a lie in His name and this goes for the commandments of God.

What is your point though?

The OP is talking about the rot and how Christianity has been pushed to the background in the process, you're talking something entirely different.

Did Jesus tell you in the new testament that stealing is okay?

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diordaves:
There are clients that are bad market. This you should know. So to filter out bad market, next time these are processes you should carry out before moving to site:

#1. If the client is from Nairaland, look up for how long they've been on Nairaland. If they've been on Nairaland for a good length of time, take some comfort in that. Good information about their personality will be here on Nairaland by their posts and the forums they frequently visit. Be wary of those who register today, today to contact you for work. Just be wary. It doesn't mean this is not possible. Just be wary because you don't know jack about them. ALWAYS research your client upfront before accepting any job. Ask them for their name. I will come to 'name' again in point three.

#2. Be attentive to the way they address you or talk to you in messages. Be wary if they are unduly and unnecessarily harsh in their communication to you. As if they are doing you a favour. It is not a favour. It is a working relationship. Yes, you are soliciting for work, but you have a right to be addressed with some respect and kindness. All that ORDER to come to site or forget the job is not necessary. It is a tell-tale sign of a tortuous job and a potentially difficult client going forward. And there are difficult clients out there. I speak as a client.

#3. ALWAYS ask for a mobilization fee BEFORE moving to site. This is standard and good practice. Any client that argues with this na bad market. Move on. I have said previously in researching the client you should ask for their name. If you ask for a mobilization fee and they agreed, make sure payment is by bank transfer and that the payment account details match with the name the client told you. If the bank details don't match for some reason (maybe the client is abroad and they don't have a Nigerian bank account), ask more questions about who made the payment and ask to communicate with whoever made the payment. Your client should KNOW you in true colour and same as you.

Don't be desperate to please to land a job. On the flip side, if a client asked you to come to a site that is so far away for investigation or consultation with a potential view of awarding you the job, ask for a reasonable non-refundable fee in lieu of the cost of visiting the site and tell the client that this fee is non-refundable if you do not get the job eventually but if you got the job, this fee is included in the final fee.

Succulently put.

EgunMogaji2:
A repeat of what I’ve said on here many times over the years. Some much to the chagrin of my “friends”.

1) Don’t rely on customers money to get a job done. We’ll never agree on this I know.

2) You don’t have to accept all jobs that comes across your desk. Interview clients and use your best judgment if it’s a good fit. Example: someone called me from Abia or Asaba and wants to do pay on delivery on a vehicle I’m selling. It’s against my company policy so I respectfully declined. It’s simple sturvz.

3) Don’t take on jobs that you can’t satisfactorily complete. Either because of skill, experience or bandwidth. It’s okay to admit strength.

To close. On this very thread, artisans have been lured out of state and robbed by robbers pretending to be prospective home builders.

Hope yah all having a wonderful weekend.

Aptly put.

OBALOLA55:
HE SHOULD PUBLICLY CONVERT TO ISLAM AND STOP BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH



DADDY FREEZE IS FROM A STRONG MUSLIM BACKGROUND

So Reno is now daddy freeze or also from a strong Muslim background?

RockOfAgesAlumi:
I really appreciate boss
Thanks

Thanks for the prompt delivery.

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Rozcol:
Some boyfriend sef,why still put eyes on what she does with the money you freely gave her,not a good thing

Ewoo!

Those clean streets are made possible by their responsible citizens.

n3xt:
How can I be of help sir?

You have my full attention sir. Please be kind enough to let me know how I can be of help.

Thanks

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sonnie10:
I don’t know what his area if specialty is but he has handled real estate tax related issues which I am aware of in the past. If you decide to contact him will explain better.

Okay

sonnie10:
If you are in Lagos, I can direct you to my uncle. He is a lawyer with long years of experience in real estate.

Tax lawyer to be specific.

A lawyer is not automatically qualified to handle all spheres of law.

blaky007:
How can I be of assistance. You can briefly state the issue and location because sometimes these issues could be based on the apllicability of Federal and/or State laws. State them here or contact me via my email on my page. Thanks.

Kindly drop your phone/Whatsapp number

micgray100:
TRY ME ... AS AN ENGINEER , I AM ALSO CHARTERED CAC AGENT... LET ME KNOW YOUR PROBLEM...I CAN BE OF HELP OR ADVICE

Can you appeal/negotiate building tax?

Are you a lawyer of any kind?

Any tax lawyer on this thread?

WhiteAngels001:
The price is quite unfair on my own end sir.
Where in Lagos

Will chat you up.

WhiteAngels001:
Make it 9k please so it can be fair enough for me the seller.
It's definitely a pay on delivery and you must test and confirm it before payment.
Where's your location sir

8k.
It's not a need but a want..
Lagos

WhiteAngels001:
Come up higher sir, we could deal

8k
pay on delivery.
But it must fit.

olu77:
I didn't say African girls either

Okay, now read your comment again.

she wasn't hating on her color. She was blasting a specific set of women located in Nigeria.