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For those who can understand simple English, but choose rather to ignore or evade questions, i'll repeat myself (ain't i nice? )

If YOU were to draw up 2 seperate top five lists - CL and EPL - based on the teams perfomances this year what would you list sincerely be like?

Let me get this straight. Revenue should now be thrown away like forbes and Co because is favors Chelsea? Very well

If you were meant to draw up top teams in Premiership and Europe - Separately - based on their performance this year tell me your top 5 each. Thanks.

@uche
I was talking about revenues with the list.

@deborsky
Please clearly prove how a shareholder does not invest one cent in a business thank you

Take a look at the list a year earlier

2005-06 WORLD CLUB REVENUE LIST
Club Country Revenue
Real Madrid Spain $373.4 million
FC Barcelona Spain $331.1 million
Juventus Italy $321.0 million
Manchester United England $310.1 million
AC Milan Italy $305.0 million
Chelsea FC England $282.3 million
Inter Milan Italy $264.0 million
Bayern Munich Germany $261.6 million
Arsenal FC England $245.7 million
Liverpool FC England $224.9 million
Olympique Lyon France $163.2 million
AS Roma Italy $162.3 million
Newcastle United England $158.7 million
1.FC Schalke 04 Germany $157.0 million
Tottenham Hotspur England $136.9 million
Hamburger SV Germany $130.1 million
Manchester City England $114.2 million
Glasgow Rangers Scotland $113.1 million
West Ham United England $111.0 million

http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6452998

I'm guessing our loss through player purchase and wages plus arsenal's new stadium may have caused the change.

Please continue to show your rather vague business idea - which organisation does not need investments ("money pumped in"? Even Arsenal has foreign shareholders, dont let Arsene fool you.

OK, nobody likes Forbes all of a sudden, well thats when its talking about football clubs not the richest men and women and businesses in the world.

And towards the difference in level between Arsenal and Chelsea / financial ratings presently - I totally agree and support Forbes list.

Now some of ya'll discount Forbes which is rather funny, No its really funny. You guys are great. I swear

Uche2nna:
So what is the criteria for this classification

Have you heard of Forbes before?
Please go to their site from the link i gave earlier.

nnenneigbo:
we haven't won everything but we've won more that u can dream of. how chelsea is above liverpool a nd barca, beggars believe, honestly now. even u somaze is wondering i'm sure lol

How you skip from one argument to another anytime you are cornered is worth praise. We were talking of the present, you brought in history, we entered history, you called in chelsea, we talk of chelsea, you claim we are like blackburn, i show you we are not, you claim we have not one everything, when i expose that neither has Arsenal, you start counting number of cups Are you a politician?

Now u ask me what level i place Chelsea and i show you Forbes list and you question my reasoning on the list. Wahala day oh! You truly deserve an award!!!

debosky:
player history? Steve McManaman, Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler, to name a few in recent generations

'big' clubs are known not just for money, but for their history and pedigree, which chelsea lacks seriously no matter your claims of 'the past 3 years'

Can you compare those player names to the legends that have played in my top clubs - Barca, Real, Milan, Juve, ManU. Please note that players from most of those teams have won Fifa and UEFA player of the Year awards?

Please dont argue like nnenne, i have no where compared chelsea to these clubs

nnenneigbo:
he might have won every, but chelsea have not won everything and are not more successful, i challenge u to say they are.

Arsenal has not won everything either (even in England) and we are more successful than blackburn.

nnenneigbo:
somaze, i ask u one last time, what level will u class chelsea then?

Top Ten

1. Manchester United
2. Real Madrid
3. AC Milan
4. Arsenal
5. Bayern Munich
6. Juventus
7. Chelsea
8. Internazionale Milan
9. Barcelona
10. Liverpool

http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/28/soccer-manchester-madrid_cz_pm_06soccerland.html

@nnenne
For the upteenth time i ask to intellectual honesty

I HAVE NEVER COMPARED CHELSEA TO THE TOP CLUBS. I EVEN SAID MANAGEMENT WANTED US TO GET THERE IN 2010 OR EVEN IN 2014 AND EVEN THAT IS REVENUE WISE.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND POSTS CLEARLY BEFORE EXPOSING YOURSELF AGAIN

nnenneigbo:
somaze, no one chats more crap than u. which level will u put chelsea? i can't wait to hear the answer, ok not with blackburn but which level. all i said was that they reminded everyone what blackburn did, abi oh. was i lying, u might not know this as u only starting supposedly supporting chelsea

Yep u were lying. Blackburn did a title once. We have done back to back - a feat only surpassed than ManU, We have continued to win cups every year and our Manager has won every cup in England in the last 3 years.

Not to blow a horn, but JM has won everything club football has to offer which is more than i can say for some others

1. League domination
2. CL domination
3. Players History
4. Fan Base
5. and the most important for me - Revenue £££ $$$$

@kaydee
Helloooooo, anybody home?

Fifa and UEFA claims Lampard is better than Gerrard, discuss.

@nnenne
I see you have started spitting in all directions. I guess if your shoot arrows in the dark you are bound to hit something.

I never said liverpool and Arsenal are not big clubs, i did not just put them in the pool of the top clubs because they clearly do not belong there.

You comparing us to blackburn only shows the how weak and biased your arguments are, but again i have never known you for sound arguments and deductive or logical reasoning.

Ikomi:
Thats no excuse. To reply to my post with a good response that nearly placed dinozzo in the right.

One thing you may have noticed is that they - nnenne and dinozzo - do not have this ability ( to understand posts and make reasonable replies)

Ikomi:
Stop hidden behind her dinnozzo can't u make your own arguments.

Again you fail to notice that this is near impossible, he would just drift out of whatever is being discussed

kaydee, i'm waiting for your proof in the other thread

Oga dont change the topic or make any more of your bogus claims

Please supply proof of the 1st one i asked, let me remind you

somze:
@Kaydee
I can show you proof where JM says he would not trade any or his players, proof where he thinks of Lampard as the best in the world - that same season Lampard was rated as 2nd best player in the world ahead of Gerrard in Europe and ahead of Eto'o in Barca, both times Ronaldinho emerged as the 1st.

Please supply prove to the following points you made
1. JM would trade Lampard for Gerrard
2. Gerrard is always superior to Lampard - A fact, as i have shown, disagreed by UEFA and FIFA.

Thank you.

The bone of contention is what we see right now. Nnenne, what i'm saying is very simple - if you dont win things people wont care about your history. We want to see you win.

Please dont make bogus claims. Who says Chelsea forgets history or claim to be as big as Real, ManU, Juve, Barca or Milan (Yes i excluded Arsenal and Liverpool). We have a target to be as big as them in 2010 or is it 2014, and even that we refer to financial stature - club generated revenue.

@dinozzo
I'm afraid i can warn you no longer to stay in the borders of the argument and not put words in my mouth. You can go on as you wish.

@ikomi
The first quote u made is from your fellow gunner - dinozzo, thats why i dont understand how its a prove to justify the second.

Again i call for intellectual reasoning

@ikomi
Are we on thesame page here?

Who cares if you play the best football when you dont win things. You attractive play is beautiful to watch but would not satisfy if you fail to get the trophies.

I call for intellectual reasoning

Please who in Chelsea line up is an Arsenal reject?

nnenne and dinozzo
WE ARE TALKING OF SHEVY'S WORTH BEFORE HE WAS BOUGHT NOT AFTER, PLEASE

Can you make a sense of your arguments as you try to change the bone of contention? Chelsea won two cups this season, Arsenal won none, like it nor not, thats how its gonna be. I dont have to go back 3 years to check what Arsenal won this season. Thats why i said history is so quickly forgotten. Take Real for example - no cup in the last 3-4 years, who the hell cares about history?

Seriously do i have to change to pidgin to enable easier understanding?

@Kaydee
I can show you proof where JM says he would not trade any or his players, proof where he thinks of Lampard as the best in the world - that same season Lampard was rated as 2nd best player in the world ahead of Gerrard in Europe and ahead of Eto'o in Barca, both times Ronaldinho emerged as the 1st.

Please supply prove to the following points you made
1. JM would trade Lampard for Gerrard
2. Gerrard is always superior to Lampard - A fact, as i have shown, disagreed by UEFA and FIFA.

Thank you.

What he's was worth is a point to be debated, but understand that when Chelsea wants to buy a player, his price is hyped because we are billionaires. Thats why we have changed our market policy as can be seen from our latest acquisitions.

@nnenne
This was the reason i pointed out that history is so quickly forgotten. What we know this year is that you won nothing period. With your so called amazing history how is it that you are referred to as underdogs next season?

@nnenne
I'll take your latest swipe as a joke, but i fear you show yourself to know very little about the game recently. The £30m pound guy has a wonderful CV if you care to check it. He was below par in his first season but we are patient to see how it goes in the coming seasons.

Please read through my posts twice before replying They are somewhat intellectual

I did not refer to your trophy cabinet - which has been empty for quite a while now - but i showed that for the past 3 years our trophy cabinet proves we have arrived. And this was a response to nnenne. Do well to read through next time.

And talking of the premiership, you most have confused this with the premier league since your referred to 3 titles in the last half century. Do your research well next time.

Again try to understand arguments before replying, Thank you.

@nnenne
first its 3 years, for now.

History can so quickly be forgotten my dear. The world would only remember winners - something that for the past 3 years has evaded the Arsenal.

We are not fighting with you to prove that we have arrived. Please dont flatter yourself, We are not fighting with you at all. ManU is who we are contending with. And as for proof of our arrival, i kindly refer you to our trophy cabinet.

We are CHELSEA

dinozzo:
my hatred for Chelsea has reduced, lucky I wasn't on this forum this time last year.

You know you're lucky that teams below the top four like spurs, bolton and portsmouth have no pedigree or else you may have had to struggle to keep your place next season. For the record, i don't hate arsenal its just the london rivalry thingy.

I actually am a great fan of Henry

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@nnenne
seems you want to start an unnecessary fight
you are the only gunner here, you should watch your mouth

I dey oh, nothing dey happen.

I'm tired of all this kind of excuses.

Henry should sit his arse down and accept his fate. He may win no major trophies before he retires but thats a sacrifice he'll have to take. He has a major psychological impact on the rest of the team. Some players want to come to Arsenal to play along side him. The young ones there look up to him, even when he is not playing. He is Arsenal's energy. He should teach the young ones the value of respecting contracts and put an end to all this rumors.

She eats garri?

Software what do u think about robben?