Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness Lie That Angels Possesses Same Nature As God Exposed. by sonmvayina(m): 1:00pm On Feb 23, 2021 |
Why do you people keep making dinstinctions ? That person has to be a real magician.
God is one. Angels and demons are laws and principles within God. They are part of God, just as all of is are. Both where created ny God and both work for God. It is what he created them to accomplish is what they accomplish..
If God sends them to go and destroy like he did to sodom and gomorah, from human perspective we say they are demons. If he sends them to go and bring good tidings like daniel and his friends..we call them angels...so end of the day "Angels are demons, demons are angels" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Now, Let The True Church Judge The Political Situation In Babylon by sonmvayina(m): 8:48am On Feb 23, 2021 |
You open thread up and down with zero knowledge of them...
I suggest you go to the entertainment section.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Does Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:32am On Feb 23, 2021 |
Kracks me up..
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Christianity Etc › Re: If satan Is tormenting you for not doing well for his Kingdom by sonmvayina(m): 11:20pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
1Sharon: Whats the others The orishas are the personification of divine laws and principles. Satan(lord of the air) Devil(lord of darkness) Lucifer (goddess of death and war) Enki(lord of wisdom) Dimuzi( lord of agriculture) Etc. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Rich? by sonmvayina(m): 8:27pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization have taken care of that amongst all the adherents but instead of appreciating them you're saying Jesus is not real, so let each person continue applying whatever he or she finds WRITTEN in his or her heart!
In the heart of over 9,000,000 JWs Jesus name is boldly written so we live for him who died for us, so go and work on how to avoid chaos since the laws you wish is written in your heart!  Did you even go to school at all(sorry to ask)? You dont sound like somebody who is educated...and lack understanding. Isn't it God who created us like this? I said the aim is to live in peace. Before the coming of the white men with their bibles, our society has laws, statues, traditions and customs that every one adheres to. This is basically to maintain law and order in the society. Most of these cultures usually pass these laws through moon light stories and mythologies. That the jews wrote theirs down in other to have consistency those not mean others cultureas got it wrong. My point. Gods laws are universal and same through out, some people just choose break them.. But our ultimate aim is to achieve peace. At the end of the day..the spirit(God's breath or active force)will return to him and the body to the earth... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Rich? by sonmvayina(m): 8:02pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The highlighted!
So each person can determine his/her own way to apply it practically shey?  That would lead to chaos, dont yoi think so. That is what we are trying to eliminate in tbe first place. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If satan Is tormenting you for not doing well for his Kingdom by sonmvayina(m): 8:00pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
1Sharon: Not Odisha o
Satan is the other personality of god They are more than 1... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Rich? by sonmvayina(m): 4:52pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Can you show me any document containing the Torah apart from Jewish source?  Never heard of the Enuma Elish, the cybil oracle, the metu neter. The laws of God is universal. That man choose to break them just like you are doing by following an idol created by Rome does not negate its validity. God wrote them in our heart. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Rich? by sonmvayina(m): 12:13pm On Feb 22, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The only reason to believe that Christopher Columbus once walked this planet is because he discovered America and America is still with us till today! So it's funny how a man could have lived and died for almost 1500 years before Columbus and much more popular than Christopher Columbus even having millions of disciples (adherents of his teachings) yet he never existed!  Lol...that does not answer my question. Show me one peace of document that his name that is not from a christian source... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If satan Is tormenting you for not doing well for his Kingdom by sonmvayina(m): 11:36am On Feb 22, 2021 |
1Sharon: Alter ego Yeah.....something like that. The yorubas calls it orisha |
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Jesus Christ Rich? by sonmvayina(m): 10:51am On Feb 22, 2021 |
Better question would be "is jesus really a historical figure?"
Prove that first.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If satan Is tormenting you for not doing well for his Kingdom by sonmvayina(m): 10:41am On Feb 22, 2021 |
Satan is loyal to Hashem. He needs Gods permission before he does anything. And he reports back to God... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why You Shouldn't Wait To See Hell Fire First Before You Believe That It Exists by sonmvayina(m): 10:31am On Feb 22, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: Spot on! Because oyinbo write am for book wey dem give you....so it must be true.. Are you sure you have a primary school leaving certificate? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Does This Verse Mean Jesus Is God Himself? by sonmvayina(m): 7:07pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Christianity is not a Jewish idea. Jesus had human parents and Jesus died, therefore he could not be G_d in the flesh. G_d never had a birthday or a death day. Jesus was born and Jesus died. Jesus is disqualified from being G_d. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Does Not Know The Scriptures by sonmvayina(m): 5:13pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
There are so many things the authors put in jesus mouth that does not come from anywhere in the Tanakh.
Jesus is reputed to have told his disciples that the messiah will suffer and after 3 days rise from the dead. There is no where that ever occured in the old testament.
And ao much more.
Like the mathew guy also quotting isaiah 7:4 as fulfilment for the birth of jesus when isaiah was only giving king Ahaz a sign to assure him that his kingdom will not be over run..by syria and the nothern kingdom. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Hellfire Real? What I Discovered!!! by sonmvayina(m): 4:52pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
There are two many conflicts between the jewish bible(OT) and the christian one(NT). We must understand that the jews wrote their scriptures long before the romans dreamed of christianity. The jews have a national religion called judaism. Their beliefs are contained in the Tanakh. It is the romans who came later and stole the jews idea of a messiah to create the jesus character.
They make him some sort of a deity and saviour, so there also created hell(jesus must be saving you from something) so they created jesus to save you from an imaginary hell. What was the jews idea of death. They see it as sleep.in Nathan prophesy it says of David "when you fall asleep with your ancestors.....They are not so much fixated on death like the christians do. They are how ever more concern with life and why gave man the torah to guide man in this life..at death, the spirit returns to God and the body back to earth. If God is sending his spirit to hell yo born forever thats his business, its him who will suffer it.. We should not concern ourselves with what happens after death, but life.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Morning Star: Lucifer by sonmvayina(m): 4:35pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Morning Star: Lucifer by sonmvayina(m): 4:13pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Bull shit as usual....lucifer is a title, it means light bearer. Lucifer is a She, not a he. Lucifer is inanna or ishtar or aphrodite. I think the yoruba know her as Osun. She is venus. She is who the christians know as Mary the mother of Jesus. She is the morning star and the queen of heaven...
She is the daughter of Nanna, who is the devil or the moon god..and her grand father is Enlil who is satan.
She is the goddess of love and war. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Repent World! Jesus Is Coming Soon!! Second Rapture Dream In Barely 2 Months!!! by sonmvayina(m): 4:08pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
Hahahhahaha
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Ask Simon Peter, "Do You Love Me" Three Times? by sonmvayina(m): 1:20pm On Feb 21, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: The Truth is now excuses to you. Next time don't make such baseless points... If it was you, and you have been following the son of the creator of heaven and earth for three years, and some police men appear to arrest him, will you run away or desert him? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Ask Simon Peter, "Do You Love Me" Three Times? by sonmvayina(m): 8:05am On Feb 21, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: They were the false disciples...
Moreover even the "people of God" Israel deserted God in the wilderness and made a golden calf for themselves to worship so nothing there. So you are making excuses now.. .very funny |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 10:09pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: That's part of Messiah's assignment! He will shepherd the nations (that subjected themselves to him) with an Iron rod {Psalms 2:7-9} this means they must learn to follow his footsteps as he leads no one should think he knows what's right or wrong, whatever principle the Messiah laid down must be adhere to strictly. Messiah will not just come and start forcing people as those faithless Jews are thinking rather he must first come to counsel people {Isaiah 9:6} it's when he comes back that he will then destroy all those who refused to heed his command! Luke 19:27
So he has come as Jesus of Nazareth and taught us how to live by God's laws, he knew the Torah better than Moses so he taught us what each law means and how to apply it practically when they're taking it to other nations who weren't part of the first covenant.
Today JWs are living by that standard though defaults is inevitable just as it was with the Torah but once a Christian realize he has defaulted he will have to go to the elders of the Christian congregation who will now counsel him/her so as not to fall prey again. Of course some will not like to be disciplined so instead of pelting them with stones like the first covenant says, we will remove them from our midst (disfellowship)
That's why you think JWs don't want to leave the Organization because each one of us know that this is JEHOVAH'S Organization given the new covenant, whoever is disfellowshiped from our midst is worse than those who persecutes us because such a person will not be remembered during the resurrection of the dead. And if he/she is alive when the Messiah comes back to establish his kingdom surely such an unrepentant wrongdoer will be destroyed for not staying within the spiritual city of refuge! Numbers 35:27 This are all your opinion, i dont see you quotting the prophet that God used to intimate the paople about this plan. For isaiah 9:6 Did the prophet Isaiah prophesy (Isa 9:6-7) that The Messiah would be G-d in human form? Let's examine it �“For to us a child will be born, to us a son� is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty G-d, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the growth of his government and peace, there will be no end. He will rule over his kingdom, sitting on the throne of David, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from this time onward and forevermore. The zeal of the L-RD of the Heavenly Armies will accomplish this.” (Isa 9:6-7 KJV) ☝️ Once again, the problem with this is that it’s a Christian translation and the translators either accidentally or purposely mistranslated key phrases. This is why neither the original Hebrew nor The Jewish translations word it this way. �First, it does not say, “For a child will be born” (future tense). It says “HAS BEEN born” (past tense) (Hebrew- Yulad). � Second, it does not say, “The government will rest on his shoulders” (future tense). It says, “was placed upon his shoulder” (Past Tense) (Hebrew- Al). � Third, it does not say “his name shall be called” (future tense). It says “his name was called” (past tense) (Hebrew- VaYikra). Matter of fact, every religious Jew knows this since “VaYikra” is the Hebrew word for the book of Leviticus, which literally means “and he called.” ☝️ So, we see in every instance in this passage the Christian translators translated everything written in the past tense into future tense�♀️ (possibly to lead people to think that this passage was talking about Jesus/Yeshua/Yahusha being G-d). Furthermore, we now see that Isaiah 9:6-7 (Isaiah 9:5-6 in a Jewish/Hebrew Bible) literally says, � ''For a child� has been born to us, a son is given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the Wondrous Adviser, the mighty G-d, The everlasting Father, caaaalled his name, "The Prince of Peace."� To him who increases the authority and for peace without end, on David’s throne, and on his kingdom, to establish it and to support it with justice and with righteousness, from now on to eternity, the zeal of The L-rd Of Hosts shall accomplish this.” (Isa 9:6-7) � Fourth, to clarify from a Jewish understanding; JUST BECAUSE someone has a divine name DOES NOT mean they are divine themselves☝️☝️☝️. Here are some examples of Jewish names and what they mean: �Isaiah = Salvation of Y-h � Hezekiah = The Mighty Y-h � Ezekiel = Strength of El � Tovia = Goodness of Y-h � Elienai = El is my eyes � Jehoiada = knowledge of Y-h � Elisha = El is salvation � Hananiah = Gracious Y-h � Elijah =The L-rd El � Gedaliah = The Great Y-h � Jesse = Y-h sees � Eliab = Father El � Eli = my El � Eliezar =The help of El � Netanyahu = Y-h gives ☝️ For example, just because Hezekiah’s name means “The Mighty G-d” doesn’t mean that Hezekiah is actually G-d. Ezekiel’s name means “The Strength of G-d” but G-d didn’t go to Ezekiel every time He did something since Ezekiel was His strength. Having a divine name doesn’t make you divine. � Fifth, the phrase “The Zeal Of The L-rd Of Hosts shall accomplish this” is a phrase only found in passages describing Hezekiah’s miraculous victory over Assyria. (See Isa 9:6-7; Isa 37:32; 2 Kin 19:31) � In conclusion, when Isaiah 9:6-7 is read in context with Isaiah 8:23-10:34, it becomes clear that it is talking about �King Hezekiah. This verse is not discussing any future event or The Messiah. Rather, Isaiah is describing the exaltation of King Hezekiah and The divine names G-d bestowed upon him following the miracle when Jerusalem was saved from The Assyrian siege. This is when 185,000 Assyrian soldiers surrounded Jerusalem and G-d sent an angel into the Assyrian camp, killing all 185,000 of them. The King of Assyria, Sennacherib, escaped and was killed by members of his own house. This took place in the year 701 BCE/BC. (See 2 Kin 18:1-19:37; Isa 8:23-10:34; Isa 36:1-37:38; 2 Chr 30:1-32:23) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Qur'an The Word Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 9:47pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Yet you're quoting the Torah (in the Bible) as standard for everyone. Please what exactly is your belief?  Torah is a book of the law. It is not a text book. It is to guide our path in this journey of life.. When it says tbou shall not commit adultery, dont. Quotting it has no spiritual benefit. We are spiritual beings(Gods) dwelling within a physical body made from dust. God gave us(humans) the torah to guide us while his spirit is dwelling within the body. At death, the spirit returns to him and the body back to earth where it was tsken. The spirit is God's spirit, it is pure and does not need a human sacrifice to be pure.. You guys calls it active force. .The personification of the totaiity of the active force(conciousenes) in the universe is what God(jehovah) is. Not a man or human being. You guys are right about the trinity being a false ideology.. So you see why i keep saying jesus is not Gods plan and he is totally useless to both the cause of God and man. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 3:49pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Covenant between God and Israel {Exodus 19:5} has nothing to do with other nations, by the time God promised to establish ANOTHER covenant that will involve other nations Torah will not be the standard anymore! Jeremiah 31:31-34  What will be the standard? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Qur'an The Word Of God? by sonmvayina(m): 3:49pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
Same can be said about the bible... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 2:46pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The Torah was never part of God's plan in the beginning, it was added due to the fall of man. Man only need the Torah like a mirror to see how dirty he is, that's why you can't just bring out your child and stone him to death today as the Torah says. We are to learn through the Torah what God detests, it's not to remain as the standard for all. That's why God only made the covenant with just one nation (Israel) if we're to take the Torah to the whole world it means people will be stoned to death on daily basis.
The problem here is the unbelieving Jew that first met you! You so much beleive the things he told you to the extent that you just don't want to listen to any other school of thought, yet what he taught is not practically applicable anywhere! Jesus was a real person who once walked this planet and his disciples witnessed so many things he did including his assenssion to heaven. The one and only group having that insight today are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why all the prophesies regarding nations coming under one umbrella and forming a global family of peace is fulfilling in the midst of JWs.
You can continue waiting for the Messiah those faithless Jews are expecting but let me tell you that the original Jews who occupied the place called Israel today in the world map has been misplaced and according to God's word they have lost the privilege given to them as the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God now view obedient and faithful humans throughout the earth as Abraham's descendants today, it's no more because you are from Abraham's lineage but are you a faithful and loyal individual like Abraham? If so God will relate with you just as he did with faithful Abraham and he sees you as Abraham's descendants not by blood but through your faith and loyalty! 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Is A Scam. Wake Up You Are Being Decieved( Pictures?) by sonmvayina(m): 1:29pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
Religion is the opium of the massess...a lot of people are waking up from the illusion. It was only created as a control mechanism, but its not working as more and more people are waking up. Hence, the great reset. Where Bill and co want to murder a lot of people and project blue beam. Where a 3D hologram of jesus will be projected into space to simulate the second coming.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Is Money Ritual True? by sonmvayina(m): 1:16pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 12:29pm On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: That's better!
Now you know there is nothing occultic in a group of people sharing the same line of thought. Jeremiah 16:19 Oh Jehovah, my strength and my stronghold, my place to flee in the time of distress, to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth, and they will say: "our forefathers inherited utter falsehood, futility and useless things of no benefit" People from different races throughout the earth have come together having known that our forefathers inherited idolatry and useless forms of worship that brings no benefit, but today there is lots and lots and lots of benefit we are enjoying in pure worship!
Zachariah 8:23
This is what Jehovah of army says 'in those days (our time) ten men out of all languages of the nations will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew saying "we want to go with you people for we have heard that God is with you people'" Almost 9,000,000 people have come from different races and we are holding the robe of the spiritual Jews known today as anointed Christians (Born Again)
Isaiah 2:3
And many people will go and say: "Come let us go to the mountain of Jehovah (pure worship) to the house of the God of Jacob, He will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his path, for law will go out of Zion and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem"
You just quoted the favourite scriptures of JWs! Well we've gone round the world to proclaim the name of the God of Jacob and we are meditating on his ways and his path everyday.
But you omitted verse 4 which tells what will happen when this prophecy is fulfilled!
He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many people and they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, nations will not lift up swords (weapons) against nations and they will not learn war anymore!
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have successfully completed this assignment today! So what we are waiting for now is when Jesus (Messiah) will come and destroy all those who refused to drop their weapons for PEACE! Daniel 2:44
I am an ex-military officer, when we go to make peace in any community the only people that we must not exterminate are those who have surrendered their weapons. So i fully understand this part of the scriptures! 
 Do you guys teach people God's laws? As contained in the Torah. Or whst somebody who never met jesus said he said or what paul wrote to his friends?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 11:36am On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You talk about God and worship but failed to consider the attributes of the God you want to worship. It's the attributes of the God you're worshiping that tells which God not what you're saying with your mouth! 
I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you are just dodging the facts because you heard worshipers of Jesus refer to us as CULT so you joined them. For your information know today that Jesus is not our God he is the model our God gave us so we are copying his lifestyle, he himself is a worshiper of our God not the God we worship! 
Have you ever entered a Kingdom Hall in your life? Well let me tell you that you can't find a single image in our place of worship, unlike the churches of Christendom we don't even believe Jesus died on a cross, we don't use image in our worship so no cross! 
So before you talk first try to make a thorough investigation not just jumping to conclusion simply because a Jew told you Jesus never existed, they hate him so much due to the fact that their faithless ancestors were wicked racists and Jesus never supported Racism! You've been talking about Igbo forum in connection with Jews definitely you must be follower of Nnamdi Kanu, know that he's just a politician that will soon expire with time and nothing is going to come out of his struggle because God has no plan for Racism rather a global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4  Hmm, no wahala..when the time comes..you will understand. Jerimiah 16:19 Zachariah 8:23 Isaiah 2:3 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 7:33am On Feb 20, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You only read the Bible in your GROUP you guys never studied the scriptures. First of all what is an idol? If you diligently study the scriptures, you will find out that idol worshipers are selfish, nepotists and racial so they're blind in the form of worship they choose, they don't think about the attributes of their God nor consider the benefits that comes along with their worship. But the worshipers of the true God knows that for them to benefit maximally from their worship they must think of what is there for one and all! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18 During the times when Israel turn to idolatry certain individuals amongst them remained faithful to God yet the whole nation suffered the consequences meaning true worship will bring benefits for the group in general! Deuteronomy 11:16-17
The wrong thing will never yield positivity, it never yielded any positive result back in the days of Israel. So if my group is globally bringing people together, nothing like Igbo or Hausa forum (racism) but indiscriminately working together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} my guy you are the blind one in this matter!
You belong to an Igbo forum but i belong to one global family!  So it does not matter who is at the centre of the religion as long as the followers are good... What is the difference between you worshipping a man and not going to war and somebody from imo state who worships a snake and does not believe in going to war and doing some of the thibgs you dont do.... Read 2nd commandment of God and understand what an idol is... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 11:41pm On Feb 19, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You belong to a group the same way i belong to a group, you have your beliefs and i have mine, you were taught just as i was taught, your group keep spreading your beliefs just as mine also does, you strongly believe in what you were taught just as i also wholeheartedly believe what I was taught. The only difference here is my own group are working throughout the globe and i can point to our works but yours are not doing anything with what you're learning. You keep hammering on the Torah yet your group has not killed any of your members as the Torah said defaulters should be stoned to death. So it's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you have that matters not just the head knowledge that's not practicable anywhere Sir!  Suit yourself....i am done enlightening you. Keep on being blind and deaf to the fact that jesus is just an idol. Is tbere a right way of doing the wrong thing? Answer me? |