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4 DEATH.

Death is the end of human experience. Since life is all there is, death is just an illusion. We are spiritual beings just having a human experience, this physical body is like an abode or vessel to house the spirit. At death, the spirit returns to its initial state (to God ) who gave it and becomes one with God. While the body goes back to the earth were it was tsken. Just as the psalmist said in 104:29-31..
The spirit is Gods, it is pure and doesn't need to be saved from anything..

I will entertain questions now.

3. MAN.
GOD created man with the ability and capacity to choose, he knows man will be prone to make wrong decisions that will affect him negatively so God gave man his laws to guide him in his journey through life. The Jews and the Igbo's are the only people to accept it. They will forever be Gods chosen people..

The laws are contained in the Jewish torah and the Igbo odinani.

2: MAN
Man is a creation of God . Man is a composite creation made up of spirit of God and dust of the earth. In other words Man is a creation fashioned from the dust of the earth and the breath or spirit of God. The dust was using to fashion an abode for the spirit or breath of God. So in essence when the bible recorded that God said "let us make man in our own image and likeness. He obviously was talking to the eartth. Man was given dominion to subdue the earth and fill it.
God already created the spiritual realm which is a world deviod of any corruption, the lesser gods do as they are told and what god has created them for. But God created man and endowed man with the ability to make choices and choose their own destiny..
So God went a little further in giving man the ability and capacity to make choices. So what are we suppose to choose from? He has placed all the choices in front of us. Good and evil, life and death..our choice.

FatherOfJesus:
you can’t learn morals and truth from a bible that lied right from chapter 1 vs 1.

How do you guys even take those nonsense seriously?

It is called a myth, I said they are not actual events..or you missed that ?

After I have read the bible from the beginning for myself I understood it, I also had the Jewish rabbi to guide me, something they don't do for outsiders. I discovered that most of their belief are similar to our own culture and tradition(odinani and omenala). So I have embraced my roots and heritage. The only reason I quote the old testament is because that is what most people know and the fact that most come from a Christian back ground. The Igbo odinani is almost similar to the Jewish Laws and custom as contained in their Torah. The stories might differ but the core message in consistent and the same.

1. God:
God is the creator of heaven and earth. In our Igbo language we call him Chukwu. The Jews calls him Hashem. Same being different nomenclature. God is the totality of the consciousness of the universe fully embodied and personified. There is only one creator hence it is called a universe..He is the creator of both light and darkness and the Lord of both..

I decided to create this thread to clear the air on my beliefs. This is going to be the last thread I create, I will not cease to comment on thread I find interesting.
I created this thread basically to educate Dtruthspeaker, kobojonkie, and some others who have been following my comments on this section on my core beliefs . please for those who wish to join, your can comment on the issues raised not on my person..
Let me start by introducing my self. I am Sonmuayina Elumeze, from oshimili north, local government area of delta state. I have a first degree in chemical engineering from the university of Benin in 2002, I also went to a primary and secondary school most people only dream of going. After my mandatory youth service in kogi state I proceeded to the south Chelsea college in London for a post graduate degree in computer application in engineering. I only return in 2016 to take up the family business in property development in Benin city Edo state. I also have a private nursery and primary school in Benin city. I am married with two children, one from my baby mama, one from my wife..I am presently running a masters degree in chemical engineering in uniben as I am still interested in engineering.
I grew up in a catholic family but we did not really take it serious so I am very good knowledge in Christianity and its history..
My journey to self discovery started in 2009 , where I was doing a part time job in East ham. We where having a normal banter and discussion when one of our client, a lady from Jamaica said "Africans and especially Nigerians are the only people that worships a God that does not look like them, a god that was used to enslave them for that matter ". My inquisitive mind was activated on that day and I decided to research on christian origins. This research took me to Westminster cathedral and st Paul's church both in the heart of London. It was then I discovered that Christianity and Jesus was just a Nicean creation. He was created on the other of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. He gathered presbyters to Nicea. A gathering that involved no Jews, if not for anything, at least to lend their voice in explaining their scriptures.
As luck would have it, I moved to an apartment in Neasden which was owned by a Jewish rabbi. I told him about Jesu's and he shivered in contempt. I ask why they don't reverence him and he decided to take me on the long road and explained to me why they don't and why it is idolatry which God forbade them from partaking in and why jesus has got nothing to do with their God and why he can't be the messiah because he did not fulfill even one of the requirement.it was then I took time to read the bible from the beginning and discover this for my self. So my beliefs will come next after this introduction.. Thank you.

Hang yourself...death aquits you of sin...

Take my advice at your own peril.

Sin was part of Gods plan from the beginning..

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you see yourself, Mr Confused, Mr Contradictions, Mr Many Mouths, Mr Double Mouth, Mr Know Nothing and Original False Prophet, first you say,



Then you say



And Now you say,



Speaking both Truth and Lies!

Truth is One, One All over the world like 1+1=2

Liars and Lies Need Many Grounds But Truth is Always Always One!

So being an Ascertained and A Verified Deranged, i leave you In and With your dustbin, for it is the Right of Every Madman to be Entitled To Keep his Dumpsite!

What did you disprove, ? Bring on your own arguments..
You are already on the road. You will get there

It is not a history textbook, it does not contain actual events. It was written for the purpose of teaching moral and spiritual truth, to guide us in our choices in life....life is about the journey, not the destination..it is therefore like a lamp to show us the way....
They all(all holy books, enuma elish and all) contain myths and legends of the people, who wrote them to help them connect with themselves and with nature...

It is all about symbolism, numerology and iconographies...

Kobojunkiee:
Let's assume for a minute or more, a literal interpretation of the contents of the Dream sequence recorded in the book of Revelation, my question to you then is, where, as part of the Old Covenant, did God promise the Kingdom of Heaven to the Children of Israel?

This idea of the kingdom of heaven, where did it originate from..There is no where in the Tanakh where God said heaven was the final abode..or am I missing something..

Righteousness89:
Brother Donnie!Brother Donnie! Brother Donnie!

Religion will take no one to Heaven!
A Relationship with JESUS CHRIST is all we need to Make Heaven!

Even the Isrealites today cannot Enter Heaven until they accept JESUS Christ..

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You can not enter until you believe Muhammed is his prophet....

Why stop at jesus?
The day the Israelite acknowledge jesus , that day the wrath of God will fall on them.. Maybe this time God will send small Qatar to over run them..

He has given them commandments to follow

" Do not have any other god before me"

"Do not make the image or likeness of anything in heaven , on earth or under the waters of the earth, do not bow down to them or serve them"..you want them to acknowledge a god the romans crested in the image and likeness of a man, something that is found on earth..


Never..They own their Torah..There is no where God ever said believe in his future son will grant them access to heaven...NO WHERE.

DeOTR:
Who is Isaiah 7:14 referring to? Israel?

Start from verse 1. King Ahaz was scared that the two people plotting against him were going to kill him and end his blood line. So Isaiah was sent by God to assure him that they will not succeed. He was still jittery, so God ask him to choose a sign, when he didn't ..God still proceeded to give him a sign to assure him that the two kings plane will not see the light of day . so the sign was for king Ahaz,it was to assure him that his kingdom will still be intact..so Isaiah said to him "a young woman (his wife or concubine ) probably pointing to the woman as he was making the pronouncement is with child, meaning the woman was already pregnant.he will bare a son who she shall call Immanuel meaning "God with us" before the child is weaned, the two kings would have passed on...


So there was a time frame for the sign, it has got nothing to do with Jesus...

Read it from 1 to 16..

Dtruthspeaker:
iPhone Can Never know the Capability of Steve Jobs to Dictate what Steve Jobs Can Do!

But can Steve job (may he rest in peace, if he was still alive,) ever become part of the iPhone?

Dtruthspeaker:
You Certainly Do Not Fear Him and if you do not Fear Him, then you do not know Him and if you do not know Him, then YOU CAN NOT LOVE HIM.

And you did not know that saying "I am not a God hater" IS THE WRONG ANSWER! Those who Love Him, Know The Accurate Answer but All-the-Evils in the world, DO NOT KNOW THIS!

You are the one believing he impregnated another mans wife to sire a son..how disrespectful is that ? Can you just imagine the level of condescension ..

God is the creator, Not part of creation..

orisa37:
God does His Works in SPIRIT. And only SPIRITS are privileged to know His Purpose Plans and Performances.

How did this answer my question ? Please be serious..when did God say he needed a son ?

orisa37:
JESUS IS NOT A SCAM.

JESUS IS ANOINTED SON OF MAN AND SO EVERY BORNAGAIN CHRISTIAN IS AN ANOINTED SON OF MAN.

So when did Good say he needed a son ?

orisa37:
JESUS IS NOT A SCAM.

JESUS IS ANOINTED SON OF MAN AND SO EVERY BORNAGAIN CHRISTIAN IS AN ANOINTED SON OF MAN.

So jesus was never a real person, just a metaphor?

Anas09:
You have what it takes to have anyone connected?
May be you shd be reading your posts yo.see how stupid they are.

I answered you in my first comment here. Go and read it.
Christians are not looking for Jesus, He lives in them. You hate Hom yet want to see Him? Why?

So was recorded to ascend into heaven? Okpe

So the second coming has already occurred and nobody was aware of it..hmm.
This is news to me . do you care to enlighten me

Dtruthspeaker:
No one goes to the deranged to learn!

You are so full of shit.. You will still have a good bath, and come to the fullness of the knowledge of God..

orisa37:
Daughterdpeniss you have problem with Jesus? Ask Rome and Canterbury.

They created the character "jesus "

Dtruthspeaker:
And yet All That He Said Came to Pass in Every Generation up till this one.

But as He Also Said, the mouths of many Haters of God would be opened and you are here, also fulfilling His Word.

Praise Be The Lord that His Words Endureth Forever!

I am not a God hater far from it, I am only opening your eyes that jesus is a roman creation. An idol if you ask me, everything they claim about him are all contrary to Gods commandment. So it is so glaring to see. I follow my creator and the laws and statues he has laid for me. To guide me in my journey trough life...

End of it all, my spirit will return to him and my body back to the earth..so while my spirit is dwelling in this body I have to enjoy it by following his commandment. Leviticus 18 : 4-5 " You must observe my customs and keep my laws,following them. I am Hashem your God, hence you will keep my lawsand my customs . WHOEVER complies with them will find life in them"..

Jesus was never needed.

DeOTR:
The faithful servants will get both back.

Hahahaha...very funny. What did you do to get this one you are enjoying now?

Dtruthspeaker:
Is there any who can speak the language of the unsound in mind, to teach him that God, came as a man, taking Up The Name, Jesus Christ?

It is not possible..God is the creator , not part of creation. It like saying Steve job became part of the iPhone as the battery..How weird those that sound ?

Dtruthspeaker:
That's your problem not mine, point is, you are a god, so save yourself or call on your cronies to save you.

You are learning ..

orisa37:
That's judging me Jesus The Son of Man gwanga is that from Quagadougou? Don't just like, share as well.

Jesus is a scam...you be learner..? Get sense
.God is not man or human being...worshipping anything that has form is idolatry..worship the creator..he does snot want an intermediary..

Anas09:
Why not write about the gods of your ancestors too. We Christians understands what our master wrote and we follow scriptural prophecies.

Oga, weytin una own gods say go happen In future?

Why did you not address my points ?..or is it that you run away when somebody have you cornered ..that is not the attribute of a man...

orisa37:
In Every Son of Man here on Earth.

I am actually clicking like in one of your post..e be like say sometimes your head dey correct..some other times e go gwanga

OnyeOhuu:
We are heading to the great tribulations.

May God save us

Why do you think he was referring to this generation ? Remember he was talking to his disciples ..they would have thought he meant their generation..

Or is it that the writers of the jesus myth knew this things always happens from time to time..so they just pit the words in Jes us mouth..

Anas09:
If you were 15yrs in 2013 when you joined Nairaland, you shd be 22yrs today. Shouldn't there be a little change in you?

When I read your posts I feel your deep sadness and depression. Go for help nau.

The Jesus you insult and call all.kinds of names is the same Jesus you want to come to your aid?

You are from Ijew in Bayelsa, you worship water gods and goddesses, why not call them in this tough times? Why call of a foreign God?

We Christians called Him, He answered us.

2020 is a year many will pray to forget in their lives, but 2020 is a year that I will never forget because it favoured me greatly. My prayers are answered and still being answered.

If times are tough for you, call the God you have been projecting here since 2013.

Where is he now ?

Dtruthspeaker:
When you Reject A Person Who Loves you, Do You Expect that He shall Attend to you? Eg that girl you toasted wey no gree, do you still give her face today? Oya, lie!

You think you like a girl, na only you Sabi Reject?

I laugh at una for you think that the Bible was joking when it Counseled "Call on The Lord while He may be Found"

The lord that it is referencing is the Lord God, creator of heaven and earth..NOT JESUS. I call on my creator everyday..but not jesus....

I don't know who he is..if they put 10 Jews on parade, I can't pick him out..

jesusjnr2020:
He's right there where you are just humble yourself and sincerely call upon His name, and you shall be saved:

Romans 10:13 (KJV)

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How do I know it is him? I have never talked to a ghost before ..How do you do it ?