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Dtruthspeaker:
Who give madman phone and internet now?

Madman, surely you saw the end of that conversation!

Oya, return to your Dustbin Quick quick. Where Stick? Abeg stick dey their make I use take flog this madman, Muttleylaff, abeg you get Stick?

You think say e funny...you no well at all..I pity you. Don't go and see a specialist..at your age, you still have imaginary friend and enemy...

F3DWZ8 for those with strong minds..

The gospel stories comes from ancient tales about Marduk, Marduk was the son of Enki. According to the Enuma Elish, he was the creator of the universe.
At Nicea they gathered to find out the relationship ship between him and his father Enki. Some said he was God and some said he was man, after the argument dragged on for almost two years,Athanasius ended it by saying he was both God and man..to satisfy both parties. Eusebius was tasked with forging a human history for him. "Make it to astonish "...was emperor Constantine order to Eusebius..and they were written accordingly. Marduk is the lord of the old testament...and the God of the Jews.

ABIODUN105:
This thread his interesting have learnt a lot.

Do you mind sharing

Please..

The book of Job was written to teach a spiritual point it is the only book that the word Satan was used in the entire old testament..two facts emerged from the book and that is 1. Satan is a son of God. And 2. He only does what God tells him to do, meaning he is under the control of God. There is no where this relationship changed till you get to the new testament and here we see a Satan that is a God on its own outside the power and control of God.
Satan is very much part of God and a member of the Elohim. He is not evil neither is he a dual opposite of God as you would later find in the new testament.
He was created to fulfill certain roles as will be delegated by God..

Satan can not do anything with out an expressed permission from God...anybody who has a contrary opinion is making mockery of God..I don't believe there is anything God created that he can't control..


FYI
it is about our higher and lower conciouseness..

Let me help you out before you Kolomental, talking to yourself..

God never said the world will come to an end. Never..The Jes us story was cleverly written by the Romans to keep them relevance for a long time.
The messiah God promised to send was a normal human being, not a demi god. He will be from the tribe of Judah..He will be anointed as king, and rule in an era of peace. No more wars and oppression. Just as isaiah said " they will hammer their sword into ploughshares and learn of war no more..." The messiah can't be jesus if at all he even existed..

So look forward to the day wars will end on earth and peace will be enthroned . No more oppression. The lion and the goat will eat grass together..

It has not happened. And the word of the lord has not changed. Jesus is not the lord. He is just a roman created character., for the sole purpose of deception..and you fell for it..

XXXXTENTACION:
Like i said earlier you are an ignoramus.


if the word of the lord is as strong as you claim how come it cannot even protect people that believe in it

Dtruthspeaker

Not only me...somebody else also figured it out...

Don't go and see a psychiatrist..before it gets out of hand.

XXXXTENTACION:
Like i said earlier you are an ignoramus.


if the word of the lord is as strong as you claim how come it cannot even protect people that believe in it

Not only me...somebody else also figured it out...

Don't go and see a psychiatrist..before it gets out of hand.

MuttleyLaff:
The Man in the original text actually says human beings, so the word MAN, in there, means human beings aka homo sapiens

I already aconcured with you when I said, though the “us” in Genesis 1:26's “let us make man," just as with "... become like one of us ..." verse, in Genesis 3:22 or "let us go down ..." in the Genesis 11:7 verse, is talking of the Godhead, but then we equally and unashamedly, could say that, in regards to particularly Genesis 1:26 alone, the “us”, is referring to God and the earth, taking cue from you pointing out that according to Genesis 1:24 it was “the earth” who brought forth all the land creatures, and you saying that, just as the earth brought forth the creatures, the earth too brought forth man, so yeah, as regards Genesis 1:26, then the “us”, is referring to God and the earth,

However, going forward of Genesis 1:26, anywhere else, “us”, is seen, it is referring to God (i.e. the Godhead) exclusively, being that we know, that “us” is a pronoun, occasionally used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself, as the object of a verb or preposition. The Lord (i.e. Elohim), God, is one. Remember that Elohim is usually understood to be grammatically masculine singular, so meaning there is no plurality in the Godhead. Capisce?

What do you mean by God head ?

In light of Isaiah 45:5-8

MuttleyLaff:
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It is pretty obvious that, “us”, is referring to God (i.e. the Godhead) exclusively, being that we know, the word, “us” is a pronoun, occasionally used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself, (e.g. the Queen of England) as the object of a verb or preposition. The LORD, (i.e. Elohim) our God, the LORD is one (i.e. Deuteronomy 6:4 or Mark 12:29). Remember that Elohim is usually understood to be grammatically masculine singular.

Who or what is man ?

"And the lord God formed MAN from the dust of the earth and breathed in his nostrils and man became a living soul "

I think it is pretty obvious , he was talking to the earth as she provided the dust for the body..

In the Igbo version she provided sticks for bones, beans for kidney, cucumber for dicks, ...you know what o mean..

MuttleyLaff:
"I have discovered only this:
God made human beings for righteousness, but they seek many alternatives.
(i.e. Or, only see this:
I have discovered that God made people upright, but they pursued many schemes.
Or, I did learn one thing:
We were completely honest when God created us, but now we have twisted minds
Or, I have found only this:
God made people decent, but they looked for many ways [to avoid being decent].
Or, This is all that I have learned:
God made us plain and simple, but we have made ourselves very complicated)"
- Ecclesiastes 7:29

Though the “us” in Genesis 1:26's “let us make man" just as with "... become like one of us ..." in the Genesis 3:22 or "let us go down ..." in the Genesis 11:7, is talking of the Godhead, but then we equally and unashamedly, could say that, in regards to particularly Genesis 1:26 alone, the “us”, is referring to God and the earth, taking cue form you pointing out that according to Genesis 1:24 it was “the earth” who brought forth all the land creatures, lmso, and you saying that, just as the earth brought forth the creatures, the earth too brought forth man, lmso, so yeah, as regards Genesis 1:26, then the “us”, is referring to God and the earth, lmso.

Now, it is pretty obvious that anywhere else, “us”, is seen, it is referring to God (i.e. the Godhead) exclusively, lmso, being that we know, “us” is a pronoun, occasionally used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself, as the object of a verb or preposition. The Lord (i.e. Elohim), God, is one. Remember that Elohim is usually understood to be grammatically masculine singular, lmso.

Couldn't make heads or tails....clarify .

DeOTR:
No, it's a vision. Daniel was still praying when Gabriel touched him.
I know the visions are symbolic. Gabriel mentioned the timeline for the fulfillment of the prophecy. The first 7 weeks is for the rebuilding of the City of Jerusalem(From the time Artaxerxes issued a decree to Ezra in 457BC for the rebuilding of Jerusalem to when the city was completely restored in 15th year of Darius (408BC) is 7 prophetic weeks: 49 actual years). From the time Artaxerxes issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the Messiah, the Prince, is 69 prophetic weeks (483 years). From 457BC , the prophecy terminated in 27AD.
And what event then occurred?
We were informed that, "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."(Luke3:21,22).
After this, Jesus came "preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, THE TIME IS FULFILLED" (Mark1:14,15).
The time here mentioned must have been some specific, definite, and predicted period; but no prophetic period can be found then terminating,
except the 69 weeks of the prophecy of
Daniel, which were to extend to the Messiah the
Prince. The Messiah had now come; and with his own lips he announced the termination of that period which was to be marked by his manifestation.
The Messiah was to confirm covenant with many for one week (7 actual years). And in the midst of the of this week, the record informed us, the Messiah would cause sacrifice and oblation to cease (Jewish ordinances, pointing to the death of Christ, virtually came to an end at the cross).
Do I need to say that from Jesus' baptism in the Autumn of 27AD to His crucifixion in the spring of 31AD, it's 3.5years, exactly in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy?
This prophecy is pointing exactly to Christ.
It has nothing to do with any past or future Kingdom (correct me with verifiable facts if I'm wrong). Prophecies are clear when talking about kingdoms. Daniel 7 and 8 are good examples of visions pertaining to Kingdoms.

Well, I think the best explanation will be given by the Jews, who owns the book of Daniel..

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/daniel-9-a-true-biblical-interpretation/

Let me answer this question with another question. Who brought forth all the land creatures? According to Genesis 1:24 it was “the earth.”

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. (KJV)

The Hebrew for “living creature” is נפש חיה nephesh hhayah. In Genesis 2:7 the phrase “living soul” is in Hebrew נפש חיה nephesh hhayah. That is correct, the very same phrase, but let’s read that verse in context.

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (KJV)

According to this verse God “formed” the man from the ground. In fact, the Hebrew word for “man” is אדם (adam) and the word for ground is אדמה (adamah).

Just as the earth brought forth the creatures, the earth too brought forth man? Who is the “us” in “let us make man? I think it is pretty obvious.

MrPRevailer:
Jesus is God

Jesus is fiction ...

Why is it that only Christian understand this passage differently . Every other culture or tradition on earth has the original idea..

Man is a composite creation made up of spirit of God + dust of the earth..

If you continue reading you will see where it says God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed in to his nostrils and man became a living soul..all the creation myth in Nigeria says the same thing. Obatala made human from mud of the earth and called olodumare to animate them. Same with the Igbo creation . the Gods Igwe and Ala....

God was talking to the earth. Or mother nature..


Not any fictitious jesus..

For the love of God...please..

DeOTR:
So the verse is referring to Hezekiah or who?
Let me agree with you for a second.
So how do you explain Daniel 9:25–26?

Not Hezekiah, the sign was Isaiah son. If you continue to read till 8 verse 18 it says " I and the sons the lord has given me, we are for signs and potents for the children of Israel. ".Daniel 9 is a dream . it is all symbolic. Start from the beginning too. It is talking about the kingdom past and the coming kingdoms..

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you all not seeing and feeling the Increase in the intensity of the attack against The Lord and His True Followers?

How The Satanist and Now the Muslims Attack The Body of Christ?

The-evils Perceive that there Time is Up!

And as it is said, it is darkest just before dawn and it gets harder just before it gets better.

The Lord's Coming is Really Close Now!

Lunatic...see a pschaitrist...

Dtruthspeaker:
Gates are also meant to keep Unwanteds Out as well as to Exhibit borders!

And for Aesthetic Purposes too. Some Gates and Estates are Just So Beautiful that a gate would be Needed to Complete the Beauty thereof!

Is that why there is gate in heaven ? The spaces outside the enclosure is called what ?

Dtruthspeaker:
like Satan would come up and come out and say "whazzup.everyone? weda dem no go stone am!

I am still waiting for you on my thread, or should I just conclude that you are just an empty vessel that makes the loudest noise..?

Who is God and who is Satan ? Dullard number 1

Dtruthspeaker:
Fear being shamed? After I have quashed you Severally?

From your statement up there, you do confirm that you intend to bring me to shame, exactly as I said, that you are not willing to learn and change.

And saying this also brings back your mental ability into serious question.

I do not think you are mentally sound, for you look it by your profile picture and the fact that you willingly put your personal details here, when not required neither did anything nor anybody compell you to do do.

Thus, I now believe that you are not of a Reasonable Capacity and I do not engage with persons of Unsound Mind!

You are just beating about the bush..Tell me why my beliefs are wrong..pick each item and give me your own understanding...you sound like am empty vessel...I put that so you know how far I have traveled..

Don't be intimidated..just take a short.

Dtruthspeaker:
I have given you the foundation of All my opinions.

Please...do expantiate, I don't understand it..use everyday English..
Just tell me what you think about God and Man..it can't be that hard to put in words..like I did.

I don't want to believe you fear being shamed.

Dtruthspeaker:
Mmh!¹ I do not trust you, for I believe you love your way and you are Never going to change (which I always respect for I do not bother if a person changes or not, but if any comes with their Lies, I Will Shoot it Down when I see it, that's all) unless another Jewish Rabbi tells you so, which you may probably not believe as you would take it to the Numbers.

But for the Sakes of Goodness and Rightness, I'll proceed!

Your First Error as shown in your biography, before you now join the general population who think that they Love God, is in the Wisdom of Ron Kenoly's Song "Whose Report will you believe?"

And this is the wisdom- "You Do Not Go To Cities for High Good Morals"

You Do Not Go to A Mechanic for a Dental Problem; Neither do you go to a Mechanic Village to purchase food items"

So where do you go to obtain the know-ledge and understanding of The Most High?

I am waiting ...

What is your opinion on those points I itemized..

There is no such being as Satan...he is a Christian creation just to keep the money coming in .

Whatever happens, happens because it is the will of God. He is responsible for both good and evil. He created evil as a learning tool.

Man is the soul..when God breathed into man, man became a living soul, at Death, the soul dies and ceases to exist. A soul or man can die,and death is just return to default settings..the spirit or breath of God returns to him and becomes one with him , just like pouring a cup of water into the ocean. And the body returns to the earth from where it was taken.for proper understanding dead the whole of Ecclesiastes..pay attention to 12:7

Dtruthspeaker:
We ve thrashed this out Severally and each time, you Fell and Now you are seeking to Re-litigate and Now seeking to use some of my weapons against me!

Borrowing the Word of The Lord "Even after I told you these things and you Fell, these Past Several Times, You still Refuse to Believe Me, you shall still not hear, when you yet Fall Again this time!"

It's a Vanity and I hate doing vain things!

Please, for the sake of posterity..just do a recap..

Dtruthspeaker:
We ve thrashed this out Severally and each time, you Fell and Now you are seeking to Re-litigate and Now seeking to use some of my weapons against me!

Borrowing the Word of The Lord "Even after I told you these things and you Fell, these Past Several Times, You still Refuse to Believe Me, you shall still not hear, when you yet Fall Again this time!"

It's a Vanity and I hate doing vain things!

Please, just oblige me...just do a recap..please..

Dtruthspeaker:
Oh! When you speak like this, I can not help but reconsider if you Truly Lost Reasoning abilities. But I think I now see what is wrong with you as revealed by your dossier above.

First, you really did not have any deep opinion about God before England and based on the Foolishness of the Jaimacan, you thought she was Right and it Set you the Foundation of your Present Belief.

Which I have torn you down Severally and you see that you Do Not Stand.

And the Error of Your Foundation is because
1) You are too physical and you do not know how to Discern or Percieve (Which is the Use of the spirit God gives us) and of course you did not trust your spirit)

Which is a shame because you went to Uniben, and lived in Benin and yet because you did not pay any attention to the Bible, (which of course you would not because Catholics Do Not Really Use the Bible, but bulletins, which contains nothing and is tasteless, a paper for the dead to deceive themselves and others too that they read the Bible), you did not acquire the benefit that residing in Benin gives.

2) In being too physical, how then can you have the Spirit of Truth, which Reveals All Things, Distilling All Lies of whatever Deceitful and flowery name eg half-truths, Untruths, falsehoods etc from TRUTH Itself.

This is even the first part of your problem before we even begin to consider the other parts of your problem which regular folks have.

You are just trying so hard to put me down. I won't condensed or pander to your level. Just pick one item, tell me where I got it wrong and what the truth of God is..let us compare and the naira land be the judge of us...

Dtruthspeaker:
Oh! When you speak like this, I can not help but reconsider if you Truly Lost Reasoning abilities. But I think I now see what is wrong with you as revealed by your dossier above.

First, you really did not have any deep opinion about God before England and based on the Foolishness of the Jaimacan, you thought she was Right and it Set you the Foundation of your Present Belief.

Which I have torn you down Severally and you see that you Do Not Stand.

And the Error of Your Foundation is because
1) You are too physical and you do not know how to Discern or Percieve (Which is the Use of the spirit God gives us) and of course you did not trust your spirit)

Which is a shame because you went to Uniben, and lived in Benin and yet because you did not pay any attention to the Bible, (which of course you would not because Catholics Do Not Really Use the Bible, but bulletins, which contains nothing and is tasteless, a paper for the dead to deceive themselves and others too that they read the Bible), you did not acquire the benefit that residing in Benin gives.

2) In being too physical, how then can you have the Spirit of Truth, which Reveals All Things, Distilling All Lies of whatever Deceitful and flowery name eg half-truths, Untruths, falsehoods etc from TRUTH Itself.

This is even the first part of your problem before we even begin to consider the other parts of your problem which regular folks have.

For the sake of clarity I numbered my points. Please pick them and tell me were I am wrong and what the truth is from your perspective...I think we should exhaust the old testament and see what was wrong with it and why the new was required..

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you ignore me, I hereby ignore you!

I can't see your comment ...

6 : JESUS

what is my idea of God having a son in like manner as stated in Mathew and luke. I find it disgusting and a big insult on my creator. To even have the mind to cook up a story of him impregnating one of the wife of his creation to sire a son. It is the highest form of mockery and insult..
I have always maintained that Jesus is a roman creation, created as an insult of the creator just as Daniel prophesied in 9:25. Since most Christians believe that God sent Jesus as a sacrifice for sins. I have gone through , and I am yet to come accross anywhere God mandated such. If there is any place somebody should provide it. Isaiah 53 that is often quoted is talking about a suffering servant. That dies multiple times because of the wrong that was done to him. 8 times prior to 53 , isaiah tells us that the servant is Israel.

5 SALVATION.

When we speak of salvation ,it is always about physical salvation. Not spiritual. The spirit is Gods. It does not need saving from anything. It is pure. Sin is a missing of the mark. You are expected to do something and you missed it or you did the opposite, it is God who created us like this. He knows we will be prone to make wrong choices, but he went ahead hoping that we will learn from our evil actions make amends and grow. Sin was part of Gods plane from the beginning. Evil exist as a learning tool for us.

When we do sin, just as the chronicular puts it in 2nd chronicles 7:14 " if my people who are called by my name will humble them selves and confess their sins and forsake their evil ways I will hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal their land "...
If God who will offend by making wrong choices says if we confess and forsake. He will forgive is that not enough for us..?it is enough for me...