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budaatum:
To the point that Jesus worship can be called idolatry! Unless one claims God changed God's mind.

Which totally proves my point...you sure say you well so? Or nah hunger....come nah, my wife sabi cook better ofe onugbo...we go do small pounded yam for you...

You have created or the romans /greeks have created a god in the likeness of a man, something that is found on earth and made him equal to your creator. You are here accepting and preaching it instead of denouncing it...

I am at least trying to open your eyes to the insult. But you no wan get sense..

budaatum:
When your consciousness is low.

Some are conscious to both the darkness and the light. And those who think it is a war between the two are ignorant of duality and the tempering power of the trinity, and likely are not yet conscious of the quarternity though they assume they alone catch on.

Do you realize that the creator is never called "The Messiah"?

When the creator sends "The Messiah", all of Israel and the world will recognize that YWVH is their Savior, Redeemer, and the Mighty One of Jacob. (Isa 60:16)

The Messiah will direct everyone to worship YWVH Alone, not himself.

The future Messiah is well known to be simply a man from the tribe of Judah who will be sent to rule the world. He will marry and bare children.

Never is he equaled to his Creator in any way, shape, or form.

budaatum:
When your consciousness is low.

Some are conscious to both the darkness and the light. And those who think it is a war between the two are ignorant of duality and the tempering power of the trinity, and likely are not yet conscious of the quarternity though they assume they alone catch on.

You and this your trinity, when you go get sense say nah lie...hmmm, this your ignorance they tire me..

So you mean say your sense never still tell you say nah scam? You still get long way to go...

budaatum:
I wonder what you'd say at 8am tomorrow morning when the sun rises. That light is winning a comeback, perhaps?

Both light and darkness are complimentary forces, not opposing. We need both to survive..

God created everything in twos...up and down, light and darkness, good snd evil, peace and chaos. Hot and cold...

budaatum:
I wonder what you'd say at 8am tomorrow morning when the sun rises. That light is winning a comeback, perhaps?

Now your catching on...its a war that none wins. Both were created for different purpose. The time period between now and 6am in the morning. That period of darkness is what is called "the devil" it is just a period when our conciousenes is low..

budaatum:
That's where you are in error. And I am certain you would love to make this a to and fro of insult slinging instead of focusing on your own understanding of the Word. But I assure you, darkness has not and will never overcome Light.

Its 9:26pm, and its dark outside, looks like darkness is winning.. what do you have to say ? There is no light anywhere in nigeria now, apart from that provided by The Discos

donnie:
It is not their book, you idiot. They inteprete it for slaves like you, not me. Can't you see my reasoning is so different from yours? They stole our books and tried their best to twist the truth around. Even their Talmud calls you black idiots cursed monkeys.

They are the synagogue of Satan, so says our black MESSIAH (Revelation 2:9, 3:9). Can't you see it, you bewitched whiteman-worshipping black fools?

They reject you but like the idiots that you are, you still beg for their recognition and validation. Y'all deserve all the suffering that you get.

OUR BLACK MESSIAH is not part of any Satanic truine. He is God, just like we his brethren. He is not YAHUAH but He is our king and our champion. We have had several Bantu avatars over the centuries. Go read about Simon Toko or Simon Kimbangu of recent history. These were avatars whose lives were nothing short of supernatural. Men that could disappear... Simon Toko was killed many times, cut in pieces and came back to life. There are still many living witnesses today.

We are not talking about Nnamdi Kanu whom you idiots worship as MESSIAH yet you don't believe the MESSIAH of the scriptures.

Donnie, jokes apart...you are not well.. please see a specialist..

donnie:
Judaism is a fake religion, it was used to cause our people to sin, thereby bringing death and destruction. It's the bane of Igbos in Nigeria but many don't realize it. They are happy to be friends with these white so-called Jews, the Synagogue of Satan. I see many of you even compare your traditional religion with the Jewish Kabalah etc. It's all witchcraft.

You are not well at all...i think i have told you this before. You are using their own book to claim identity. They are interpreting it for you, you are insulting them. They where the people God promised a messiah, and God never told them that he will be a demi God or part of a triune God...

So continue in your idolatry. It does not really concern them.

iyambz:
Like is said earlier, you’re just looking for an argument.

But he is right....context is key. The jews are strict monoethiest..they reverence only one God that is responsible for both good and evil.isaiah 45:7.

@Donnie

https://www.aish.com/sp/ph/Isaiah_53_The_Suffering_Servant.html?mobile=yes


Try this too.

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-53-a-jewish-perspective

donnie:
Please stop talking nonsnese.

So verse 4 says Israel took away his own pain and bore his own suffering.

Verse 9 say Israel was punished for nothing. He was sinless but he was punished. Meaning your god must be mad. ISRAEL commited no sin ...no deceit? Which ISRAEL

Verse 10 YAH turns Israel into an offering for sin, on who's behalf. So YAH sinned and decided to kill his people as offering... to who?
It says "He shall see his offspring..."... After He has killed all of Israel?...and prolong whose days?

Verse 11- "...my righteous servant will justify many, he will bear their iniquities... Explain. Who is the servant? Who is he justifying? Is it Israel that has the power to forgive, cleanse and justify? Who is Israel justifying?

Verse 12- says ISRAEL was numbered with transgressors because it commited no transgression right? Which ISRAEL?
Bore the sins of many (who are the many?) and made intercession for them, because he was sinless?

How you are able to continue with your delusions inspite of the glaring error of your ways tells a lot about the state of your heart. Your kind are not new, nothing special... They existed in bible days during the time of MESSIAH and the apostles.

That's why you're always found contributing happily in every juju and idol worship thread. Before nko? ...you can't get Holy Spirit Power with all those lies and falsehood you peddle? So Egyptology and voodoo are your only hope.

Isaiah 53 is about a suffering righteous servant, not a demi god. Isaiah already told you 8 times prior to 53 that israel is Gods servant..please read a more appropriate translation...

The people talking in 53 are the kings of the earth....

You really are a dullard.

HellVictorinho:
The faith just died.
It was not a plan.
So,there is no replacement.

To every death, there is always a new beginning .

donnie:
Jumping from thread to thread trying to shake off the pricking of the Spirit on your heart? Is this the first time you have challenged me on this?

◄ Isaiah 53 ►

1Who has believed our message

and to whom has the arm of YAHUAH been revealed?

2He grew up before him like a tender shoot,

and like a root out of dry ground.

He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,

nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3He was despised and rejected by mankind,

a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.

Like one from whom people hide their faces

he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

4Surely he took up our pain

and bore our suffering,

yet we considered him punished by YAH,

stricken by him, and afflicted.

5But he was pierced for our transgressions,

he was crushed for our iniquities;

the punishment that brought us peace was on him,

and by his wounds we are healed.

6We all, like sheep, have gone astray,

each of us has turned to our own way;

and YAHUAH has laid on him

the iniquity of us all.

7He was oppressed and afflicted,

yet he did not open his mouth;

he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,

and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,

so he did not open his mouth.

8By oppression and judgment he was taken away.

Yet who of his generation protested?

For he was cut off from the land of the living;

for the transgression of my people he was punished.

9He was assigned a grave with the wicked,

and with the rich in his death,

though he had done no violence,

nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10Yet it was YAHUAH'S will to crush him and cause him to suffer,

and though YAHUAH makes his life an offering for sin,

he will see his offspring and prolong his days,

and the will of YAHUAH will prosper in his hand.

11After he has suffered,

he will see the light of life and be satisfied ;

by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,

and he will bear their iniquities.

12Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,

and he will divide the spoils with the strong,

because he poured out his life unto death,

and was numbered with the transgressors.

For he bore the sin of many,

and made intercession for the transgressors.


I like the prophet Isaiah say again today "who hath believed our report?"

And i have always refuted this isaish 53.

For God sake and the last time, it is talking about a suffering servant. Isaiah already told you the servant is israel...

HellVictorinho:
The universe is not conscious.

Ehnnnnn? What did you say?

https://mindmatters.ai/2019/08/why-some-scientists-believe-the-universe-is-conscious/

HellVictorinho:
Actually,I don't think consciousness can be personified.

Well, the totality of the conciousenes of the universe is what tbe scripture refers to as God, at least the Tanakh. Not the man god created by the romans and greeks.

HellVictorinho:
I was once a Christian.
But the faith is dead.

What is there now? What did you replace it with?

HellVictorinho:
Consciousness is the quality of being conscious.
How can that be personified?

Yes, thats what God is....Osanobua, Eledumare, Chukwu, vishnu, Ra, Marduk, YVWH...

HellVictorinho:
There is no divine consciousness.

Are you an athiest ?

HellVictorinho:
There is no divine consciousness.

I love putting divine....God is conciousenes personified.

@Donnie

Is there anywhere God ever said the messiah was coming as a sacrifice for sins?

This explains it all. Copied..

This explains it all

The moon is the devil. The ruler of darkness. Where did you get the idea that the moon or darkness is evil ?

The devil is the personification of darkness, symbolised by the moon or a goat. In most mythology he is represented by a man with a goat head always sitting.

Light and darkness are complimentary, not opposing. We need both to survive. It is the principles of duality. God created everything in twos.

Adam means man and Eve means woman, the story is just a recast of an earlier babylonian epic about how humans forfeited the chance to dwell indefinately on earth.

The old serpent is no other than Ninghiszida. He/she is the serpent of the good tree. The serpent of the evil tree was Dimuzi or Tamuz..

Dam it..

Christianity poses only a blood sacrifice by a human figure. Humans are unclean by design as well as an abomination in relation to sacrifices. Jesus, even though the new testament poses him as perfect, is still a human figure. Unclean and an abomination. In addition, he was beaten beyond recognition. The Torah is very clear in that any animal sacrifice MUST be without blemish at the time of the sacrifice/death. Jesus failed in every possible way...and this is only the TIP of the iceberg!!!
ALSO, he didn't STAY dead, therefore NOT a valid sacrifice.
Food(or NOT food[communion]) for thought!!!
William Hall April 16 at 7:33 PM ·

The New Testament brings a new doctrine not found in the Tanakh(ot). When we go through the Hebrew Scriptures and read about the Most High, we don't find a three part being who will come to earth in a human form and die. We don't find anywhere in the Jewish Scriptures that belief in Messiah will replace obeying the Torah. In fact it says that when Messiah comes, people will obey Torah more completely not that the Torah is nullified.

Can J-s/Yeshua Be Messiah? Do Matthew and Luke Prove it? See What the Almighty Says:
Genealogical Qualifications to Be Messiah Scripture
Messiah will be of the tribe of Judah
Gen 49:10 "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the student of the law from between his feet, until Shiloh comes, and to him will be a gathering of peoples.

Tribal lineage goes through the human biological fathers
Num 1:18 "And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by their fathers' houses, according to the number of names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls."

The kingly line only goes through the sperm of the human biological father not the mother.
2 Sam 7:12-16 "When thy(David) days are fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed ZERA after thee, that shall proceed out of thy body [SPERM], and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom FOR EVER."
14 I will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me for a son; if he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men;
15 but My lovingkindness shall not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
16 And thy house and thy kingdom shall be made sure for ever before thee; thy throne shall be established for ever.'
>>Seed that proceeds out of a man's body is Sperm.

Kingly line only goes through the sons never the daughters.
1 Chron 17:11-14 "And it shall come to pass, when thy days are fulfilled that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will set up thy seed after thee, >>>>who shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom.<<<<
12 He shall build Me a house, and I will establish his throne for ever.
13 I will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me for a son; and I will not take My lovingkindness away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee;
14 but I will settle him in My house and in My kingdom for ever; and his throne shall be established for ever.'"

Kingly line through Solomon Forever
1 Chron 22:9-10 "Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about; for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.
10 He shall build a house for My name; and he shall be to Me for a son, and I will be to him for a father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever."

1 Chron 28:4-7 "Howbeit YHWH, Elohim of Israel, chose me out of all the house of my father to be king over Israel for ever; for He hath chosen Judah to be prince, and in the house of Judah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father He took pleasure in me to make me king over all Israel;
5 and of all my sons--for YHWH hath given me many sons--He hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of YHWH over Israel.
6 And He said unto me: Solomon thy son, he shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be to Me for a son, and I will be to him for a father.
7 And I will establish his kingdom for ever, if he will strengthen himself to perform My commandments and Mine ordinances, as at this day."

Kingly line only through the sons Forever
2Ch 13:5 "Ought ye not to know that YHWH Elohim of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?"

Jer 23:5 "Behold, the days come, saith YHWH, that I will raise unto David a righteous shoot, and he shall reign as king and prosper, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YHWH is our righteousness."

Jer 33:15 "In those days, and at that time, will I cause a shoot of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute justice and righteousness in the land
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely; and this is the name whereby he shall call it YHWH is our righteousness.
17 For thus saith YHWH: There shall not be cut off unto David a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
18 neither shall there be cut off unto the priests the Levites a man before Me to offer burnt-offerings, and to burn meal-offerings, and to do sacrifice continually."

"My covenant will I not profane, nor alter that which is gone out of My lips. Once have I sworn by My kodesh: Surely I will not be false unto David; his seed ZERA shall endure for ever, and his throne as the sun before Me. It shall be established for ever as the moon; and be stedfast as the witness in sky.' Selah" Psa 89:35-38

No King Can Come From Jeconiah's Line (also called Coniah/Jehoiakim)
Jer 22:28 "Is this man Coniah a despised, broken image? Is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into the land which they know not?
29 O land, land, land, hear the word of YHWH.
30 Thus saith YHWH: Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days; for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah."

Jer 36:30 "Therefore thus saith YHWH concerning Jehoiakim(Coniah) king of Judah: He shall have none to sit upon the throne of David; and his dead body shall be cast out in the day to the heat, and in the night to the frost."

Messiah must be a direct descendant from David and Solomon through his human biological father. J-s didn't qualify, he had a virgin birth. Even if he didn't have a virgin birth, the genealogy in Matthew 1 goes through Jeconiah, whose line was disqualified from kingship as part of Elohim's curse (Jeremiah 22:30,36:30) and in Luke 3 the genealogy doesn't go through Solomon as required but his brother Nathan (II Samuel 7:12-14, I Chronicles 17:11-14, 22:9-10, 28:4-6). J-s is most definitely not the Jewish Messiah.

[quote author=Tassy12 post=97121610][/quote]@Tassy12

Do you realize that God is never called *The Messiah*?

When God sends *The Messiah*, all of Israel and the world will recognize that the creator is their Savior, Redeemer, and the Mighty One of Jacob. (Isa 60:16)

The Messiah will direct everyone to worship creator alone not himself.

The future Messiah is well known to be simply a man from the tribe of Judah who will be sent to rule the world. He will marry and bare children.

Never is he equaled to his Creator in any way, shape, or form.

The catholic church were trying to alter God'a judgement that is coming. The prophesy said pope Benedict xvi will be the last pope and after him,the end will come. So the made him resign something that is unheard of. The churches cannon law says all popes are for life, and the seat is only vacant when the pope dies. Any conclave held while there is still a sitting pope is null and void and will only give rise to an anti pope. So FYI pope francis is an anti pope. The real pope is still Benedict xvi..The end of the jesus brainwashing and propaganda will end as mankind will enter a new conciouseness of the knowledge of the creator. This covid 19 was the beginning of the shift in human conciouseness. So those who still propagate the insult on our creator by equating him to a common thief that was killed on a cross by man..desist from it. This jesus never existed. He is a creation of the roman empire.

Rise above believe amd faith and embrace the true knowledge of the creator and learn what he expects from us...

nnamdiosu:
If we go by this, then indirectly, you are trying to say that the earth and God are on the same level and power?
Its actually a great fallacy to proceed on this line of thought because you are indirectly say that the earth is in the same image as God.

God commands everything, including the earth. He doesn't need the help of the earth to create his most special Creation man

Our bodies was created from the earth AND NOT BY THE EARTH.

peace

Not God, the same image as man. Man is Part God and part earth. Igwe and ala, in igbo creation mythology. It means heaven and earth.

You are contradicting yourself, not me or it is just a case of cognitive dissonance..