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TenQ:
We don't serve the same God Mr Maximus, do you think you can Force it to be?
1. Is your God not a SUBSET of the Universe? He is a SUBSET!

2. Can your God be EVERYWHERE and SOMEWHERE at the same time? NO!

Where was God of the Jehovah's witnesses before he created heaven?

You have proven that you cannot answer the question. You needn't bother responding if you can't answer the Initial question!

Again: Don't feign Ignorance to the scripture before you. What does verse 10a say

From your fake translation
Exodus 24:9-11 NWT
9 Then Moses and Aaron, Naʹdab and A·biʹhu, and 70 of the elders of Israel went up.
10 And they saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was what seemed like a sapphire pavement, and it was as pure as the heavens themselves.
11 He did not harm the distinguished men of Israel, and they saw a vision of the true God; then they ate and drank


This is Your own fake translation! Always twisting the Bible to fit their doctrine

Can you check from the Hebrew interlinear if what they saw was a vision of God!


See deliberate lies from the JW organisation to fit their doctrine

TenQ:
My God YHWH is ONE and unlike ANYTHING in creation . He can be everywhere and somewhere at the same time

My God YHWH as the Holy Spirit fills EVERYWHERE
My God YHWH as the Father sits on His throne in Heaven
My God YHWH as the Word can be ANYWHERE

Again!
For a person whose God is a subset of the Universe!

Can your God be somewhere and everywhere at the same time? No!
Because he is just like mere men who cannot be somewhere and everywhere at the same time .

No wonder you are ashamed!
And he is ashamed to say it Loudly!

Truthseeker10:
Who gave Solomon wisdom? If Solomon was lying, explain 1 kings 19:11, 12.

If you interprete Jeremiah 23:24 to mean that God is present everywhere, do you agree that Devil is in God? Since God is everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
What i just said!

MaxInDHouse:
One thing i have observed in all your posts is you never agree that people are free to choose what they will believe anytime someone disagree with you it's the same thing: such a person is a dummy!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣so you cannot find where the bible confirms the statement below that you gave me:

When his number is up ...he would die and his son will take over. By then Israel will be a monarchy....

Sometimes I just wonder how you think.

MaxInDHouse:
Abeg who is not a dummy in your eyes?

gohf:
so Jacob died without an offspring?

gohf:
please close your mouth before the flies and Beelzebub have another feast from it

Topman7:
Failed what incarnation?

My friend if you don’t want to reincarnate, you can refuse to do so. Nobody forces you to incarnate.

There are trillions of souls on the Other Side, most of whom don’t incarnate into these lower vibrational dimensions like our visible Earth.

The ones who do, ie us, are regarded as HEROES when we return back.

It is YOU as the soul, who decides to reincarnate, to make amends, or learn, or teach.

Because you are not observing it from your Earth human perspective, but from your Higher Self, and full awareness of what it’s all about, etc etc, your thinking will be different there than here.

gohf:
🤣 blasphemy to who?
Insubordination to who?

Maybe yet you claim according to, guy do you know or you don't know? Your assumptions are not helping you in anyway

gohf:
you are a shameless liar

The Jews don't believe that they are the Messiah

They are looking for the coming Messiah who not according to your nonsense coming in an era of peace, but to come deliver them from their enemies and bring peace to them.

Guy you are shaming Judaism, to them the Messiah is a warrior who will make Israel great again

Jesus was not a king yet they crucified for being king of the Jews

gohf:
so now you can actually see Jesus didn't commit an abomination before God.

You need to wake up and read and study your scriptures, was there a promise of a new covenant? Even the Isaiah 49 or which one, God promised to give this seed, this servant as a covenant.

I think it's pathetic that you think when God promised Abraham that his seed would be a blessing to the nations, you thought it was Israel the very nations God divided and left only Judah (+Benjamin) and the Jews were not any blessing to any other nation not to speak of nations. 🤣 so it's the Jews that would bring the gentiles into God's house.

When I said you lack understanding of the Tanakh it wasn't a jest

Truthseeker10:
Can you kindly quote the verse where you got this information?

gohf:
I have you are just obviously been too blind to admit it.

From the seed of the woman, to the promise from Moses, to the naming of Joshua and the appointing of Elisha by the other witness, Elijah, who stands before the anointed of God, all prophetically bearing the same name.

You call them my opinion when you refuse to read and even when you do, you convince yourself that it is a lie. Like God told Isaiah, that is looking they will not see, nor can you even hear the truth, read at plainly for you

Truthseeker10:
Will the Messiah die when he comes or he will live forever? Which one sir?

gohf:
I should explain to you what you refuse to believe that through the death of Jesus, many become children of God through him, both Jesus and us have eternal life

Why not tell us how Jacob died then came back to life and had numerous children?

You are obviously incapable of understanding the Tanakh even if it is spelt right before you. Isn't Isaiah 45 about Cryus?

Oya look for another nonsense to respond to me with

Truthseeker10:
So will the Messiah live forever and not die when he comes?

gohf:
😂🤣 even when I read writes up in search for what is true, this is one of the most unintelligent and stupid write-ups i have read in a while.

You avoided many key points in the text you are quoting while adding your own porious view, and then attempted to patch another portion of Isaiah to chapter 53 without connecting them in anyway. That's poor, just plain horrible.

You actually called that "well explained" are you indirectly insulting my intelligence. You didn't even show without a doubt that it wasn't Jesus, your half baked statements only showed doubts while ignoring a whole lot of other texts.

What was one solid point you mentioned, you were just being a criminal to sensible reasoning. Didn't Jesus call himself their brethren, isn't he one of God's servants.

MaxInDHouse:
The only group that is able to gather peace lovers throughout the earth and unite them to make one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that the Messiah has nothing to do with our sins?

gohf:
and what was his crime?

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂😂😂.
So Israel is the MESSIAH 🤦

MaxInDHouse:
First of all is there any evil anywhere?
Is everything not supposed be God's work according to you?

gohf:
you want me to tell you? Are you okay? No offense but is everything okay with you? 😟

gohf:
which Israel is Isaiah 53 about? If you can please sanely explain how it is about Israel..

gohf:
what is my belief that I have told you, and how did that post deviate from it?

At least show you are capable of saying the truth before you speak from the Tanakh.

I should tell you when God planned it? Are you okay? I am observing God from the beginning of his existence or what? If you are asking where God spoke about Jesus dying

Here it is from the Tanakh

How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring good news(gospel), who proclaim peace, who bring good tidings, who proclaim salvation, who say to Zion, "Your God reigns!"

See, my servant will prosper; he will be highly exalted. Many were amazed when they saw him--beaten and bloodied, so disfigured one would scarcely know he was a person. And he will again startle many nations. Kings will stand speechless in his presence. For they will see what they had not previously been told about; they will understand what they had not heard about. (Isa.52.7,13 - 15)



Isa.53

Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? (NIV)

My servant grew up in the YHVH's presence like a tender green shoot, sprouting from a root in dry and sterile ground. There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance, nothing to attract us to him. He was despised and rejected--a man of sorrows, acquainted with bitterest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way when he went by. He was despised, and we did not care.

Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God for his own sins! But he was wounded and crushed for our sins. He was beaten that we might have peace. He was whipped, and we were healed!

All of us have strayed away like sheep. We have left God's paths to follow our own. Yet the LORD laid on him the guilt and sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led as a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth.

From prison and trial they led him away to his death. But who among the people realized that he was dying for their sins--that he was suffering their punishment?

He had done no wrong, and he never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man's grave.

But it was the LORD's good plan to crush him and fill him with grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have a multitude of children, many heirs. He will enjoy a long life, and the LORD's plan will prosper in his hands.

When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of what he has experienced, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of one who is mighty and great, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among those who were sinners. He bore the sins of many and interceded for sinners.

gohf:
so was Jesus killed in that way?

gohf:
based on your definition and understanding of what you have been asking, from which you wrote

"Like the one yahoo plus people do

Kill a human being for riches.... usually sacrificed to moloch. He was the only one that was accepting human sacrifice....
Not God...who created life itself."


God NEVER ordered such and Jesus never did such.

Nobody used Jesus for sacrifice, he offered himself to God and God accepted him as recorded in the scriptures.

gohf:
like you defined your human sacrifice is when others lay a human upon an altar, kill them offering their death to their idols.

God never asked for such nor would he ever accept such.

You ask did Jesus qualify as a sin sacrifice? Do you know the requirements for a sin offering? Or what it was meant for? Do you think under the old testament murders could give an offering and they would be forgiven? If adulterers were caught, they were stoned.

Now do you want what sin atonement was for, as mentioned in Exodus 29. It was for purifying things and not the people, even the priests who partook of it, were to do it regularly.

Now I asked you what sin does a young bull commit? Or what is the offense of a Lamb?

Yet there's a blood more pure and precious than that, not offered by others but offered by the one who has it. Not offered to God for the blood of animals were never given to God so also the blood of Jesus was for our purification.

For no offering was given for such in the Torah, to purify a man from his sons. Or can you tell me of one?

You asked if Jesus was sacrificed in the temple? Was the passover lamb sacrificed in the temple? Are you not ignorant of what is actually written.

Jesus gave his own life, and said so himself. For what reason did they kill him, because he is the king of the Jews?

The Romans killed him because it is how it was prophecied and written
His bones were not broken because it was have it was prophecied and written.

If only you would wait on God and have him open your understanding to the scriptures, then maybe you won't ask another silly question that you can easily read from the Tanakh you claim to believe in

gohf:
God's requirement from that 2 Chronicles 7

Then one night the LORD appeared to Solomon and said, "I have heard your prayer and have chosen this Temple as the place for making sacrifices. At times I might shut up the heavens so that no rain falls, or I might command locusts to devour your crops, or I might send plagues among you. Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land. I will listen to every prayer made in this place, for I have chosen this Temple and set it apart to be my home forever. My eyes and my heart will always be here.



Look you don't need to lie against God, you can read it here that God mentioned the sacrifices before their prayers.

gohf:
you should first apologize for lying and suggesting that there were no animal sacrifices needed