Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:44am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: No sir! It is the Pantheistic God that exists in imagination because he isn't a person Your opinion. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:43am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: Sorry! It was God that gave us His own attributes and not the other way round!
Haven't you heard before that man was created in God's image? Eggxactely. We are images of God's. God the mother (the earth) she brought the materials for creating our bodies God the father (divine consciousness) he gave us his spirit for animating the body. We are the forms through which God experiences itself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:40am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Are you saying that the verse was lying when it says that God was not in the wind earthquake and fire?
Tell us where the voice was coming from. I am asking you the question..stop throwing it back at me. Answer me. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:39am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: Is the Universe a PERSON? Is the Universe an ENTITY? Has scientist found the end of the universe...? Has the hubble telescope seen a human up there ? The universe is most times personified as a man. I have posted the picture of Marduk here with the universe as his cloak. It is just for story telling. All cultures have it. All the stories describe what is happening within us. We are the forms through which the universe is experiencing itself... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:35am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: To every Christian, Yes! Our God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT because He exists as a Person and is not just a CONCEPT.
Concepts exist only in the world of imagination! Well, maybe God exist in a world of imagination. Maybe the atheist are right. Or maybe they don't understand anything. Or maybe they are inside looking out....there is really nothing to see there. Just emptiness. God is the totality of existence. We are the forms through which God experiences itself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:32am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: No sir. For Christians God is the infinite SPIRIT with visible forms as the FATHER in the heavens and the WORD everywhere! God is a PERSON God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT
This your own God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY. Hahhahaa Why are you giving God human attributes? You think God is a human being? See your contradiction? Infinite spirit//visible forms Go and sit down jare. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:28am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: An existence can be real or virtual isn't it?
The keyword again is ENTITY meaning SOMEONE or IDENTITY
This your God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY. Does God have a will? Does God have emotions? Does God have intellect? Somebody else will answer these.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:26am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: Is the Universe a PERSON? Is the Universe an ENTITY? Some call it Olodumare Others Chineke Still others Osanobua... Is he a person ? Is Olodumare a person? Is chineke a person? He is called a the lugal dimmer ankia. The divine king of heaven and earth. I really don't know if The creator is a person. Some use He to describe God. I don't know. I guess it is just for convenience sake. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:21am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: We are saying the same thing. Instead of having your God as the sun moon, your God consist of everything including all atoms in the universe.
I get it. You just widened the scope of your God! Those are aspect of God. Just like you Christians choose to approach God through a man that died 2000+ years with zero evidence that he existed, some choose to approach God through the sun and moon. But God warned the Jews Do not make the image 1 or likeness 2 of anything in the heavens(moon, stars, sun and planets) on earth (man, animals, trees, rivers etc) or under that waters below the earth(algae etc). Do not bow down to them or serve them... The Roman who did not have any convenant with God, created a God in the image and likeness of a man, and gave it to the world to worship...and you don't still see a problem with it..till now. I weep for you.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:13am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: Entity! That is the keyword. Your God doesn't exist as an entity! If you have watched "kung fu panda 4" you will understand what I am saying. When po was in a dilemma and needed answers to some certain issues he was facing.. Master Shifu said "Talk to the universe".. If it was a Nollywood movie. It would have been "Talk to God"..... |
Christianity Etc › Re: How strong is your faith in God? by sonmvayina(m): 10:10am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Faith is just a fancy word for ignorance...
What knowledge do you have about the universe. Where do you stand when it comes to spiritual knowledge?
Not much I suppose.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:08am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: You claim your God is everything in the universe, Why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire? He was....he did not want to communicate that way to Elijah. Where was the small voice coming from? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:07am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: I am not missing anything sir.
Just as some people's God is the sun, you have expanded the scope of your God to EVERYTHING consisting in the Universe.
So, for you, your God is EVERYTHING seen and unseen and thus he isn't an entity
You are a Pantheistic or at best practice Stoicism or Hermeticism 4/5 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:06am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: Entity! That is the keyword. Your God doesn't exist as an entity! Do you understand the meaning of existence? Can you put it in a box? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:00am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: You have just said that he doesn't exist as an entity. Your God is the Universe itself just as some people's God is the sun!
No difference! God is everything and everywhere...he can't exist as one thing... Use your medulla oblongata next time |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:58am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: If everything in the universe is God, Why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire? It was a message for ELijah... I have explained the message for you too.... The letter killeth, you know |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:57am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: You have just said that he doesn't exist as an entity. Your God is the Universe itself just as some people's God is the sun!
No difference! You are missing everything... Try and understand before you start typing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:56am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: In other words, he doesn't exist as an entity! Olodo? It is the totality of existence... We are part of existence, so we are part of it..and it is part of us.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:55am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire? Life is not about shouting and destroying things to make your point or slandering people to make a point. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:52am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: You defined your God as the embodiment of the Universe itself. Such a description is not for a "Person/Identity" is he/it? God is not a person. It is the totality of existence....we are part of It/him/ she..and it/he/she is part of us.... Comprende? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:50am On Mar 02, 2025 |
TenQ: A Spiritually dead person is one who cannot receive direct communications from God!
Your God is NOT a Spirit! Is he?
If he is not, how can you even be deemed spiritual? No my God is not a spirit neither is he a Jewish man up in the sky. My God is the universal divine consciousness...it encompasses all spirit. He is sovereign to all his creation. He is indivisible. He is one Lord... |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Essence Of Your Incarnation Is To Avoid Judgment Debts Aka Karmic Load by sonmvayina(m): 9:47am On Mar 02, 2025 |
MrPresident1: Many things. There is no contiguity between us. Expanciate please... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:46am On Mar 02, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣🤣Oga explain. How much you go pay? Those are the wisdom in the Tanakh. We don't devulge to any how people... Ok...you really want to learn. It means God can communicate with human using any means. This particular message was for Elijah who was zealous for the Lord. He was fleeing from king Ahaz and jezebel. He heard the heavy wind ..God was not there. Meaning life is not about shouting and screaming to pass a message. The earth quake....not about destroying things to make a point. Fire: not about spitting venom. Words that hurt. But sometimes being gentle can achieve a lot(gentle wind) he was told to continue on his journey after being fed... It was God instructing him using signs.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 11:32am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Explain 1 kings 19:11, 12. One of My favorite passages in the Tanakh.... How much will you pay me? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 11:25am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So are you saying that God is the totality of all existence? Yes oh Yes oh If you reason like this, we for don pass here since... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 11:18am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So is God sand? Are you a dummy or what? Did you even read your screenshot? Just like I said, A man is a human being. You are asking if the toe is a human being? Do you even understand anything? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 11:11am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Do you agree with the write up below in the screenshot? Mostly...apart from the big bang stuff and the 13.8 billion years...every other thing checks out. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is freewill, as pertains to religion, an illusion? by sonmvayina(m): 11:09am On Feb 25, 2025 |
I use "freedom of choice" in my own arguments. I never bothered myself with free will. We have freedom of choice. But knowledge has also thought me that Every action or inaction has consequences. So I just educate myself, to have the wisdom to guide my choices... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 11:01am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Do you agree that sand is part of the universe? Did Google tell you that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is freewill, as pertains to religion, an illusion? by sonmvayina(m): 11:00am On Feb 25, 2025 |
StillDtruth: See son of Satan, see how you prove you are mad permanently and evil in pretending you do not know what an argument is?
And see your madness, you are here not respecting other people's opinions yet you stupidly complain about it.
If you want your opinions respected keep it to yourself. That is what sane people do. But clearly you are Mad Go and see a psychiatrist...I will pay for it.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:24am On Feb 25, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: define the word "universe". Make Google your friend or better still ask Meta AI. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:23am On Feb 25, 2025 |
TenQ: I am only echoing you
Your God came into being when the Universe came into being 13.8billiion years ago! Is that what you understand from my post? It shows you are shallow. Only God existed before creation. Whatever he created , was created within him. We are part of God and God is part of us. It is totally impossible for God to still be somewhere inside himself. Does not make any sense.....olodo. No matter where the universe ends, it is within God. |