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johnw47:
and slops for fools

u r a deluded Christ hating fool


Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

I thought you wanted to show me Jesus in the old testament..

Show me and I will come to your side.
But, we have checked...he never existed. He was a made up character just like iron man or Harry Potter....
You want him to exist so bad......but history is silence on him....

johnw47:
oh duh dum dum

God is omnipresent so it could be said that God is in us
but we are not omnipresent, so it can't be said that; "we are in God because God is omnipresent"

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

God is everywhere...and we are inside the everywhere.......
So. God is in us, we are inside God.....so we are part of God.
It does not make any sense for God to send part of itself to hell. Does it??

Got it now

Segxydube:
There were evidence he lived and he did miracles but as u be atheist wetin u go talk b4?

Well, to shock u he will still be the one to judge u and the greatest sin ever is not to believe in him.

Delusion grandeur...

He never existed bro. Sorry to burst your bubbles. He was invented by Roman Catholic cabals...

tctrills:
This verse answers your question
Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

So who created Christianity?
Paul??

AntiChristian:
There was only Ishmael and Muhammad as Prophets in that line. All other Prophets came from Isaac up to Zacharia, John the Baptist and Jesus!

Jesus did inform his disciples of the coming of Muhammad.
And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you confirming the Taurat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad SAW) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic." Qur'an 61:6

And it is false that Muhammad started being associated to Islam about 200 years after Hijrah!

The Qur'an was recited during the life time of the Prophet and has been memorized by many since then till today!

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad) whom they find written with them in the Tawraat (Torah) (Deut, xviii 15) and the Injeel (Gospel) (John, xiv 16), — he commands them for Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At‑Tayyibaat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), and prohibits them as unlawful Al‑Khabaa’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allah’s Covenant with the children of Israel), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Qur’aan) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful. [al-A’raaf 7:157]

Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) said in his commentary (tafseer) on this verse:
“ ‘Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write whom they find written with them in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)’ – this is a description of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in the books of the Prophets who gave their nations the glad tidings of his coming and commanded them to follow him. This description is still there in their books and their scholars and rabbis know it. Imaam Ahmad narrated: Ismaa’eel told us from al-Jareeri from Abu Sakhr al-‘Aqeeli, a man from among the Bedouin told me, I brought a milch-camel to Madeenah during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). When I had sold her, I said, “Let me meet this man [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)] and listen to him.” I met him walking between Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, and I followed them until they came to a Jewish man who was reading from a scroll of the Torah, consoling himself for the plight of his son who lay dying, a boy who was very handsome and good looking. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘I ask you by the One Who revealed this Torah, do you find any mention in this book of yours of my attributes and my coming?’ The man gestured with his head to indicate ‘No’. But his son said, ‘Yes indeed, by the One who revealed the Torah, we do find mention of your attributes and your coming in our book, and I bear witness that there is no god except Allah and that you are the Messenger of Allah.’ [The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)] said, ‘Keep this Jew away from your brother.’ Then he took care of shrouding him and praying [the funeral prayer] over him.” This is a qawiy jayyid hadeeth.

You are not getting it...
...??

It is common knowledge that the father of so called Muhammad was Abdullah which means servant of Allah. So it means that Allah was already been worship prior to the birth of Muhammad. My question is that. " Is there a tradition whether written or oral among the worshippers of Allah that he was going to send a prophet. Or is it that Muhammad is first and last prophet of Islam?
Forget the Jews and their Tanakh. It has got nothing to do with the arabs..

MindHacker9009:
It's very surprising that Jesus Christ did not help his own people defeat the Roman empire from his father's land, but same Jesus Christ showed Constantine a sign in the sky to help Constantine win his war in Rome 300 years later

Hahhaahhahaha,
Where do you pull all these puns from

I love them.

Thanks....don't mind the brainwashed Christians with their brain in their asses.

All forgeries, to keep the lie going. All attributed to Eusebius, who said it was ok to lie for God.

MightySparrow:



Why did Allah forsake Ishmael's children and Mohammed had only the story of children of Isaac in the Quran?

I go with your logic:
So it pleased Allah to abandon the children of Ishmael from Abraham to after Christ.

Why is that?

Antichristian
I need the answer to this question please.
Where there prophet in the line of Ishmael or in Arabia who prophesied the coming of Muhammad. If not, I am thinking that Muhammad never even existed because Muhammad started being associated with Islam more than 200+ years after the so called Hijra.
I believe the Quran was supposed to be a lectionary of the Christian and was translated into Arabic. By Christians who where not convinced of the Trinity doctrine....

Please, I need answers..


Thanks you

gohf:
there were other sects but the rest were minor

You are finding it hard to accept that Jesus is a later invention by the Romans....
Probably because you have invested your whole life and resources on it..

My guy, my whole life turned upside down when I found out .but I picked my self up dusted my pants and moved on..

You can do the same..

Just follow the laws as found in the Torah.

I can teach you. If you want.

johnw47:
weirdo, the closest you are to spirit is: "you have a demon"




Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

It is your business..at least I have told you...

When you grow up, you will understand..

Milk for babies
Meat for adults...

Validated:
How about bowing to a Blackstone ,(fragmented meteorite)

Worst of them all...
Both Islam and Christianity are idolatry.
No matter how much they want to air brush it.

Segxydube:
You dont know anything

Worshiping a Jewish man with no evidence he actually lived is insanity....
Worshiping a man as God is idolatry..

We are the holy Spirit...

We are part of God and
God is part of us...

And we are in God since God is omnipresent..

Worshipping a man as god is idolatry....

God hàs no physical form

Uptownerd:
You are stúpid and useless. Your brain is less than -1%.

Dtruthspeaker..that is not me....

Everybody keep echoing the same thing. Maybe it is time to see a psychiatrist...

Bros..leave him alone, he is our resident lunatic.

Steep:
Jesus did indeed died proven historically.

By who??

Steep:
even if the devil is killed human beings will remain corrupted. When you lie, fornicate, kill, get drunk, worship idols, commit adultery, steal etc it is you doing it not the devil, killing the devil will not absolve you of your sin, the question is what can absolve you and cleanse you?

If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and confess their sins and forsake their evil ways, I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN,I will FORGIVE THEIR SINS and heal their land..

This is what a real God will do.
Not order a human sacrifice...after saying "thou shall not kill"...

Jesus makes no sense. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer.

SonofElohim1379:
God is not a Christian but the Almighty

Let that sink in

Yes I know, but

Who created Christianity?

Considering the context of the new testament. Jesus was born by a Jewish mother and fostered by a Jewish father(we know God don't do magic) , he followed the Jewish laws and custom all his life before he was executed for treason by the Romans. He was said to have told those who came to him "to keep the laws" and as one of the items on the sermon on the mount, he said "He has not come to destroy the law and the prophet, but to fulfil them. That is show us that it can be done....
The early Gospels saw Jesus as a man, who was anointed by God on his baptism....it is the later ones like John. Where the christology really takes shape...
Well, the Jews don't have any tradition about Jesus. He just does not feature anywhere. So if they don't care. I don't see any reason to care too
So according to the gospels stories..Jesus was born,grew up, lived and died a jew.

I got the idea to create this topic partly from quora and partly from the the ongoing discussion about a Catholic priest removing his cassock and chasuble for life.
The answer to this question are carried. Most people on quora went for Paul of Tarsus and some also said Jesus... BUT the answer that stroke me was someone who said Martin Luther king.
I think in a way it is correct prior to that time, what was in existence was the Catholic Church, with four important prelates.. Alexandria,Antioch, Constantinople and Rome. Jerusalem had a bishop that was sometimes seen as the fifth.(Much the same way the Miami masters is seen as the fifth Grand slam).
So who really created Christianity?
To answer that we have to go through the ages, probably to Alexandria (in Egypt) where serapis and isis was worshipped. This pair will later become our Jesus and Mary at the council of Ephesius and calcedon. The worship of serapis and isis(is CHREST) spread to all part of the empire and to Rome. Rome at this time was mainly Mithraism. There was no mention of a wonder worker in Israel.
When Constantine came to scene, he wanted a single religion for his empire and surmoned all the religious leaders to Nicea to choose between Mithraism and chrestianity as the religion of the empire. They voted to go with chrestianity because they had more Greeks than Romans..
The rest is history.
So who created Christianity? My answer..the Roman empire.

musicwriter:
I wish I knew this man so he could help edit my upcoming book. Just finished the book and need some editing work done on it by someone with similar interest. If this book doesn't free a black man or woman from religion, nothing will

Keep one for me please...when it's ready...

I can also help you with the proof reading...

HolinesstodLord:
Many have come before you and pass away. Repent before you also pass away. God can’t be mocked…

I pray God spare you in judgment. Repent while you still have time.

You did not prove he actually existed...

He is fiction.
Know this and know peace....

[quote author=HolinesstodLord post=133640391]Stop twisting scripture like the devil do. Devil teach his children same devilish wisdom. Repent and be converted.

If you say you are God, declare the future and tell what is to come? See, you are no God. So stay humble, repent of pride and be converted [/qudote]

Did you read what I wrote?
I said we are God's spirit dwelling within a body made from Dust.....
See Psalm 104:29-31
"Send forth your spirit and they are created and fill the earth...
Take it and get they die and return back to earth....
What is Jesus saving??

HolinesstodLord:
Pray against sudden destruction and repent. You don’t make mockery of Jesus Christ. Don’t let Satan push you to talk about what’s too great for you to understand with the limited human brain

Jesus that we have been using to wipe our asses here since 1990..
Hahahahah...sorry my bad, he never even existed. He was a made up character just like Harry Potter...

Know this and know peace.

HolinesstodLord:
You are not God. Whoever told you that is Satan or someone inspired by seducing spirit of demons . You are a human spirit. The body you wear is from dust. The soul is a form born from the intercourse between the body and the human spirit.

You saying you are God is like angels saying they are God. Angels are spirits too but they are not God whose name is Jehovah.

God is a spirit but every spirit is not God, including you… It’s hard for physical man to understand spiritual things.🤷

Repent of your pride and stop twisting scripture like the devil does.

Please see Psalm 104: 29-31 and the creation of man an re educate yourself.
We are the forms through which God experiences itself...
We are God's spirit living in a body made from Dust.

SIRTee15:
This is a straw man argument.
The debate here is about validity of trinity.

If I show U from the ancient Jewish scriptures that the logos is a person and created the universe, would U accept it?

That's my question.

Yes....

elated177:
Chai, sonmvayina.

Real undiluted knowledge...

You can take that to the bank and cash it....

The dragon was Tiamat.

That is what happened before the creation of the universe by Marduk.
Satan is not the devil and is not Lucifer..

They represent three generations.
Satan is the Lord of the air and the father of the devil. The devil is the Lord of darkness and he is the father of Lucifer who is the goddess of war and death amongst others.....
Lucifer is also known as Mary the mother of Jesus by Christians. She is the morning star.

Numerouno94:
U shag them? I mean the marine bannies?

Was dating one, but she no gree.

She said I was still a water spirit and it won't work bla bla...that we are both pieces....
She was scared of me too...

We just became friends.....she was nice.

KnownUnknown:
More claptrap. “God is consciousness. God is the universe. God is spirit. God is a he. God is bla bla bla. Higher consciousness, lower consciousness, mid consciousness.”. All bullshit.

I only smell ignorance...go and cure it...

SIRTee15:
No I mean logos acting as a person and creating the world instead of the Father just speaking it.
That's what I mean.

Would U accept if I bring the evidence
I don't want to stress myself or waste my time if U will not accept evidence from Jewish scripvtures.

Bring it on...I will only accept if in the Hebrew scriptures it says the logos will come as a man in the future to die for the sins of the world..

SIRTee15:
Resorting to abuse won't safe U.
Ancient Judiasm believed in a divine messiah.
Evidence abound everywhere in their scriptures.
We can start with Daniel 7

Quote the Daniel 7 you are talking about.

Nachmonides:
What's your basis, foundation for the statement: "God is consciousness"

Well, that is what the whole Bible is talking about.
The clue is in the creation of man..

Figure it out..