Christianity Etc › Re: Warri Catholic Bishop Suspends Priest For Getting Married by sonmvayina(m): 10:24am On Jan 20, 2025 |
pappyabbey: Can someone pls educate me on what this particular suspension is meant for in Catholic {for the purpose of knowledge)
If you had submitted ur resignation letter to ur employer on 29th November and you stopped showing up at work from 30th December ( 31 days after}, what exactly are they suspending u for by January of d following year.
Even if he's been into d act b4 and now that he summoned courage to notify his superior about his conviction to get married and be relieved of Canonical duty, is there anything holier than that?
Hypocrisy Everywhere! You can't take holy orders, then turn around and take matrimony. It does not work I the RCC. It is either one of them...for life. He should have waited for all the documentation to be complete...that's why people are saying what ever they like. If he had waited. Nothing to talk about. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 8:25pm On Jan 19, 2025 |
keemsleek: His death was a sacrifice for we Christians, he died so we might live. If you read your bible we'll you will understand the olden ritual of the Jews where they use animals has atonement fir our sins and where it's only the chief priest that can enter the holy of the holiest but the moment jesus was sacrificed the practice of animal stopped. The view covering of the holy alter tour into two that why we don't need anyone to intercede on our behalf again and we can go climb on the alter and pray. That's is the sacrifice that he shed his blood for.
You still asking who founded Christianity here's is a lil reason for you..
Christianity was founded on the life, teachings, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus is considered the founder of Christianity, but the religion developed and spread through the efforts of his disciples and other early Christian leaders. Like his apostles Peter, James, John etc Saint Paul and the early church fathers. The bolded is the only thing that made sense in your entire comment. So which god asked for a human/god sacrifice for sin? Is it the same god that yahoo boys sacrifice their babes to? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Survived Attempts To Alter Its Message by sonmvayina(m): 8:22pm On Jan 19, 2025 |
Padipadi: Who are you to describe a Christian? He is not. He knows it is bull crap. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Survived Attempts To Alter Its Message by sonmvayina(m): 8:21pm On Jan 19, 2025 |
gohf: wasn't referencing him for that, when we mention Josephus flavius it's not because he is a Christian but Bart said he used to be and went to theological school before becoming an "expert in ancient greek texts" He knows much to know it is bull crap.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Survived Attempts To Alter Its Message by sonmvayina(m): 8:09pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
gohf: They tried to hide the truth, read bart erhman not sure if I got his name correctly Bart Erhmam is not a Christian... |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Not A Trinity by sonmvayina(m): 8:03pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
Restroom: There is a book, called the Bible.
It is a book from God. It is the only book that explains all about life and how we got here.
So, everything I have shared with you, is from this book: called the Bible.
I am sure you have heard about the Bible before.
Have you read through it?
It is not just an ordinary book. It is the word of God.
And it is over 3000 years old. There are 66 little books that make up this book and were written by over 40 different authors inspired by Gods holy spirit.
Some reject the book as man s work. Billions accept it as God's word. Before I can go in depth and explain things to you, as you requested, the first question I need to find out the answers from you is this: Do you believe in the Bible/as the word of God?
I am a black educated man, so I won't try to decieve myself like many educated people and the so many white people, who says God does not exist or that the Bible is an ordinary book.
To explain the concept of Godship, creation and life, you need to be a spiritual man. The physical man cannot understand the things of the spirit.
Hence, the question, do you believe in the Bible?
let start from there?
So that we don't argue over information quoted from the word of God. The Bible is a book of so many claims. How did you confirm the information in it. I don't believe the Bible, I know the Bible... |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Not A Trinity by sonmvayina(m): 7:54pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
Restroom: Is this doctrine really accurate:
that God the father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are one?
I believe it is false.
Among us humans, we have seniority and hierarchy.
We have our fathers, who are the head
We have our mothers, who are subject to the husbands and children, who are subject to the fathers and mothers.
You see, it is clear....
But when it comes to God, churches have twisted it the other way round, so much so that common sense is no longer common.
So people now Believe God is a trinity, 3 in one.
Churches have turn God into a 3 face idol, and worshipped the way they like.
According to John 3:16, God sent his son to the earth, to save those who exercise faith in Jesus.
The question now is, Was it God who came to die for us?
Did God Send God to come and die for our sin?
Well, the messenger and sender , who is greater?
That account at John 3:16, simply shows that there is seniority in the relationship between God and his son.It also, shows that God is more powerful and has greater authority. Also, it shows that the two entities are distinct. God is God, our creator while Jesus is the firstborn son or creation(Colossians 1:15).
God was not created but Jesus was created.
Yet, people still open their eyes wide open and let religious leaders deceive them that God, the Ancient of Days, The Alpha and the Omega, and his creation, his first born son are equal and are one.
Can a father and his son be mate?
The churches of the world says yes!
The Bible book of John 14:28 States in part:
'the Father is greater than I am'.
Now, this quote was made by Jesus himself.Does this not show, that even Jesus is well aware that he is below his father, and not equal to God.
Yet people keep saying God, and his son and holy spirit are equal.
Take it or leave it:
Jesus said:
The father is greater than I am.
That explains why he was sent by his father as Messiah to the earth.
The doctrine of trinity is another satanic doctrine he uses to mislead billions of people into believing the wrong things about God and also receiving their Worship.
Those who worship the Trinity god, of god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit, are giving their worship to idols. They are worshipping Satan unknowingly.
1Cor.8:5,6 states:
for even though there are so called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords", there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him,and there is one Lord,Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.'
So, it is clear, there is one God, the Father and a distinct Lord, Jesus Christ .
That is what the bible teaches.
God is our creator, the father of all, including Jesus Christ.
so accepting a doctrine that puts the created or creation on the same pedestal as the creator is an insult on God's person, sovereignty, goodness and power.
Obviously, those pedalling this evil doctrine, have forgotten what is called common sense.
God and his son, are not mates.
They are a father and son relationship. Why was Arius defeated in Nicaea? He has same line of thought.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 7:51pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
keemsleek: U
He was a Jews but he said he came to rewrite the laws. Christianity is a religion practiced by christ followers the Christians.... every disciples every believers of Jesus Christ are Christians. Jesus Christ was not executed cos of treason pls he was executed because the pharisees handed him over to the roman on ground of blasphaming. There's difference between treason and blasphaming. Jesus never had issues with the roman government. So where did he write the new laws.? That is what I have been asking for since. Please provide it. And let me end this thread. Ok..the Pharisees handed Jesus over to the Romans for blasphemy. So many things are wrong with all the four contradictory passion narrative. But that is beyond the scope of this thread.. He death was not a kind of sacrifice. So who created Christianity? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God's Orders And Counter-order Proves That Muhammmad Couldn't Have Been From GOD by sonmvayina(m): 7:27pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
AbuTwins: So that means Yahweh Jehovah is fake with all his religion! Numbers 31:17-18 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.
You said Yahweh is devil above! That is the first thing I did this year...killed all the Amalikites. I did not let any one survive.... I am saving all the woman that has not known a man... I killed the rest...... Lord, give me the grace to keep it that way... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Warri Catholic Bishop Suspends Priest For Getting Married by sonmvayina(m): 7:11pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
Maybe the father by chance watched porn...
He never knew they could also do it from the back. Tried it in US. Ka Boooom. He loved it..
The rest is history.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 7:04pm On Jan 18, 2025 |
keemsleek: Christianity is a religion which was caved from the word christ followers which brought about the word Christians. Who created it.. because the story in the gospels said he was a Jew, followed the Jewish law and way of life, though sometimes he fell foul of the law. He was executed for treason by the Romans. Nothing like starting a new religion. Who then created Christianity? |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 2:36pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
bobestman: He was not a Jew cos he called them synagogues of Satan - Rev 3:9;2:9. The impostors who took over the land after the original Hebrews of the land were sacked in 2Kings 17 called themselves Jews. They were not the true bloodline of Hebrews but impostors who began to learn the Hebrew Ways and laws. This is why they found it hard to understand his teachings which is quite different from the Jewish laws. He came to Restore the original Hebrews not Jewish Ways and laws which was lost a long time ago. Those he even came to seek were no longer their when he came but impostors who find it hard to understand the original Ways. This why they conspired with the Romans to kill him. The Jews were the ones who gave him up for the Romans to kill and thus the original ones who murdered him. So he is not a Jew. They began to call his ppl Jews but he made it known to all that the Jews were synagogues of Satan. Those he truly came to seek he called them lost or dispersed tribe of Israel. They were the true bloodline he sought. Jews and Romans conspired to create another story . He is also not a Christian cos his teachings is far above Jewish and Christianity. Christians don't follow the laws and Jews only taught a photocopy of the laws. He is the law and came to teach them what was truly lost in it. That which they fail to know. His really followers were only assumed to be Christians. They were not and the Romans capitalize on that to create the religion.
Let me pause You are assuming that Jesus was a real historical figure? In my poser, I only assumed that the gospels are real stories... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 2:15pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Kingsempires: 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔na WA ooo!!! I said it before in a previous thread. That for 400+ years, serapis was the Christ.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by sonmvayina(m): 2:09pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Sterope: Do you you understand what creation means? Yes.. To bring forth.... I created 3 beautiful lives.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by sonmvayina(m): 2:08pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Sterope: I have the latest edition
The Qur'an That's paganism...it will lead you astray... It is rubbish. It is about the moon god Nanna/sin. . I will advice you to run away from it.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 2:06pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
tctrills: You realize this is not a prove right? Now to your questions. He was talking to the children of Israel about Jesus Christ. God raised Joshua after Moses but the verses were not talking about Joshua it was a prophecy of Jesus Christ. Now could you do us the honors of providing prove that Moses was referring to Joshua the man who came immediately after him and not Christ who came a few thousand years later. Go ahead prove. The floor is yours. Read the verses surrounding it for better understanding... Then come here . Start from 10 to 20. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 2:02pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
tctrills: But God raised several prophets among them so what prove do you have that it was Joshua in particular and not Jesus Christ who came thousands of years after? Was Joshua a prophet like unto Moses? And in what ways? Verse 21 and 22 talks about how the children of Israel will identify the prophet. Please mention some of the prophecies of Joshua.
Now let's not forget Isaiah that prophecies about the birth of Christ. Isaiah 7:14 – "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." More from isaiah Isaiah 9.6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
Was this also about Joshua?? Moses was talking to people in front of him.. It is not rocket science. Was Jesus amongst the people Moses was talking to? It is simple logic. Read the book of Joshua to find out. A prophet is somebody who tells the truth. Not somebody who tells the future.. Isaiah never said a virgin in 7:14. He said "Almah" which means a young woman. It was a reference to his young wife. Immanuel is Isaiah's second son. But Isaiah and his sons where for signs and potents for the children of Israel see Isaiah 8:18. Isaiah 9:6 is about a son that has already been born. Not will be born. The child was already 6 years old when Isaiah said or wrote those words. He was referring to future king Hezekiah..please learn to understand what you are reading...and wisdom to understand it.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by sonmvayina(m): 8:47am On Jan 17, 2025 |
Sterope: People that can't create life have a lot to say about what life, death and afterlife is.
Jokes on you! I created three beautiful lives ....they are with me. I love them so much. I did not do it alone. I said "let us (me and my wife) create man or woman in our image after our likeness.... And after nine months voila...a beautiful girl was born to us.... |
Christianity Etc › Re: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by sonmvayina(m): 8:44am On Jan 17, 2025 |
Sterope: Please don't stop there, tell us about the complexities of this world since you are so knowledgeable about the afterlife? Learn the Torah... That is the only guide for us to make good and rewarding judgement... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 8:42am On Jan 17, 2025 |
tctrills: Only one question, prove that the prophet Moses spoke about was Joshua and not Jesus? Go ahead, prove it. Who was Moses talking to? Who did God raise up after Moses.. It is simple deduction... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 8:41am On Jan 17, 2025 |
tctrills: You only repeated your words without providing prove. You claim that the passage is talking about another leader when Moses dies. And the prophet in question was Joshua. Moses was addressing the people in front of him. Not people that will live 2000+ years into the future. And I am asking you to provide evidence to back your statement. Moses did not mention Joshua's name and he never spoke of the time the next law giver will come so oga provide evidence? It is simple. Moses told them. That is the people in front of him that God will raise someone from amongst them. And they should listen to the person as they listen to him. So when Moses passed, who did God raise up for them? If not Joshua...it is simple deduction. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Using Sling After Injuring Forearm In Fall by sonmvayina(m): 6:34pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Omoawoke: Suffer suffer for world, enjoy for heaven
Suffer, suffer for world Enjoy for Heaven Christians go dey yab "In Spiritum Heavinus" Muslims go dey call "Allahu Akbar" Open you eye everywhere Archbishop na miliki Pope na enjoyment Imam na gbaladun Archbishop dey enjoy Pope self dey enjoy Imam self dey enjoy My brother wetin you say? My brother wetin you say?
Africans! It’s a shame that you still worship the same weapon that was used to demonize you and made you less of an animal… Fela talk tire yet una no wise That man was a prophet....we did not listen because to us he took loud. |
Christianity Etc › Re: After Death: What Happens? Where Will You Be? by sonmvayina(m): 6:28pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Life and death are one and the same thing. It is just a change of world. Death(Lucifer, Inanna) is but an illusion. It is deception. That is why Marduk and Inanna are enemies. Inanna is not his spouse. Though she is sometimes referred to as the "queen of heaven". We are spiritual beings living inside a physical body made from Dust. Death is returning to our default state. In the movie Casper the friendly ghost. Casper was asked what death feels like, he answered " it is like being born again, but backwards. The purpose of life is experience..... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 6:10pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
tctrills: So the Jews were expecting a king and law giver. Hence the coming of Jesus Christ is not an oddity. You asked where Moses prophesied about another Lawgiver? I thought you know the bible. 1.Deuteronomy 18:15-22 Not only Moses, numerous prophets of 9ld testified of him. Here are just a few of the old testament prophecies about Christ[ This passage is talking about another leader when Moses dies. And the prophet in question was Joshua. Moses was addressing the people in front of him. Not people that will live 2000+ years into the future. The Old Testament contains numerous prophecies and references to Jesus Christ, often pointing to His mission as the Messiah. Below is a list of prophets who testified of Christ, along with examples of their prophecies: 1. Moses Prophecy: Moses foretold that God would raise up a prophet like himself. Reference: Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 "The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to him." (This is often interpreted as a prophecy about Jesus.) Noooo, it is about Joshua. Who took after when Moses was no more. 2. Isaiah Prophecies: Isaiah provided detailed prophecies about the Messiah's birth, life, suffering, and mission. Virgin birth: Isaiah 7:14 "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel." Suffering servant: Isaiah 53 "He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities." Light to the Gentiles: Isaiah 42:1-7 No bro. See why it was easy to deceive you. You took a text out of context. Isaiah 7:14 is a sign that God was giving to king Ahaz to assure him that his kingdom will withstand the threat of the northern kingdom and Syria who had formed an ally. It is not a messianic prophesy. It is about a war that was soon to happen. King Ahaz was scared that his blood line was going to end. So God sent Isaiah to tell him that whatever they are planning will not happen. For good measure, the son was Isaiah's son and the "Almah"(which means a young woman) is the prophetess. Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant. And 8 times prior to 53, Isaiah told you who the servant was. See 41:4-8 and 45:1-7. The servant that is suffering is Israel. If you are good in English you will observe that the narrative is written in past tense. There is no death. The narrative ends with Jacob/ Israel making restitution in which case, he would see his offspring and God would prolong his days. No death, resurrection and ascension..The Hallmark of Christianity. The Jews are supposed to be the light to the nations. 3. Jeremiah Prophecy: Jeremiah spoke of a new covenant that would be fulfilled through Christ. Reference: Jeremiah 31:31-34 "The days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. The new covenant of Jeremiah is the renewal of the Torah. The Torah was written on papyrus but this time the law is going to be written in their heart. It will make keeping it effortless" it is not some kind of "new law" But the only law at Sinai written in their heart. 4 Micah Prophecy: Micah foretold the birthplace of the Messiah. Reference: Micah 5:2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel." Yes, it is talking about a king who will rule Israel. The real Messiah who will usher in an era of world peace. That person is not Jesus as he was never a king, neither did he rule Israel. So clearly not him. You are committing lots of fallacies.[/quote] 4 Zechariah Prophecies: Zechariah described the Messiah's triumphal entry into Jerusalem and His betrayal. Triumphal entry: Zechariah 9:9 "See, your king comes to you, righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey." Betrayal for 30 pieces of silver: Zechariah 11:12-13 It is talking about à. King. Jesus was never a king. Reading the very next verse will confirm every doubt. Chapter 11:12-13 is talking about something entirely different. Learn to read things in context The old testament supports Christ, the new testament supports Christ. The historians wrote about Christ. You should at least agree with someone. There is absolutely no Jesus in the Tanakh if you read it well, how it is supposed to be read. You are the one trying to say what it is not saying...try again. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 5:39pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Lukuluku69: o
You asked for where Moses talked about another Law Giver.
There you have It in the verses I posted. Please underline the subject, object and predicate in the quote... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 3:58pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Lukuluku69: The question to ask him is this: Did Jesus gave any Law/s as comprehensive as Moses?
And yes Moses talked about another Law Giver. Where when? I would like to know.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 3:57pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Lukuluku69: And he said, The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them. -- Deuteronomy 33:2 KJV Holy Bible
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. -- Genesis 49:10 KJV Holy Bible
Not Only Moses but Jacob too. I don't know what you want me to see here... Make it make sense... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Intelligent Design: Who Created God? by sonmvayina(m): 3:49pm On Jan 16, 2025 |
Kingsempires: thank God you believe that God exist. And as for the Jewish man you said that's up in the sky, that is left for you whether to believe him or not  I know there is no Jewish man up in the sky... |
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Was A Jew, Then Who Created Christianity? by sonmvayina(op): 8:45am On Jan 16, 2025 |
tctrills: Oh my brother, read the new testament and you will find abundance answers to your question. But then think about it, if the laws of the old testament was enough, why did Moses prophesied of another Lawgiver? The old testament spoke abundantly of the coming of the Messiah. In the words of Christ, the Scriptures testify of me. Do you get it now? When did Moses talk about a new law giver? I will really like to know. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 8:44am On Jan 16, 2025 |
johnw47: torah mythman
of course mocking the Holy Spirit means nothing to you, you will find out different:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. Mat 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. Like I told you... We are God's spirit dwelling within a physical body made from Dust...we are the holy Spirit in a human body, experiencing life.. We are the forms through which God experiences itself... I know this will fly over your head. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 8:42am On Jan 16, 2025 |
johnw47: The Torah is considered by many scholars to be a collection of ancient myths
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 2Ti 4:4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
sonmvayina I have said this a thousand times... They are myths, teaching moral and spiritual truths... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 8:41am On Jan 16, 2025 |
johnw47: torah mythman
you say that; God is in people because God is everywhere, which makes sense but then you say the myth and nonsense that: people are in God because God is everywhere
it's like saying: bacteria are in people because bacteria is everywhere, which makes sense but then again the myth and nonsense: people are in bacteria because bacteria is everywhere
and you still cannot see how dum u r
your god the devil has blinded u: 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
sonmvayina Now I know you are a dummy.. You don't understand anything. I am done with you on this matter. |