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Thanks God I left Christianity..
So full of controversies and paradox.

Lies upon lies....


I am really really grateful to my creator for saving me from its destructive doctrines and dogmas.

Dtruthspeaker:
So are you not saying 2 People are there?
1) Big Papa God and

2) He Pikin God wey Papa God dey Send "make light, make toy house, decorate the house eel well, make toys and put them inside the house make dem live for the house (and now our toy story don start be dat.)

What is the process by which God becomes one of the toys??

gohf:
yes I watched the movie

Do you understand it?

gohf:
you told who what? What are you talking about about 🙄, is your consciousness speaking to you again

The matrix is real...

gohf:
oga talk about yourself, when you sonmvayina expire it goes back into the universe

Are you scared of death?

gohf:
you are here? Didn't hear from you again after answering your questions

Where??

I told you that the son in Isaiah 9:6 has already been born...you are lying there through every opening in your body...

gohf:
so my consciousness is God 🙄😮‍💨

Yes...when you expire, it goes back into the universe..

gohf:
it is a beautiful imaginative story to you in your fairyland consciousness
Reality check, the stories are real

You are dropping divine or demonic knowledge here, thank God people resist it. You are deceiving yourself and want others to be deceived as well?

It is God hardening their heart....

To their own distraction...

Most of these stories are ancient stories about the Same Annunakis that came to earth from long ago.
Marduk is the creator God and gave other gods their domain and station. Like I said it is still about the two brothers - Enlil and Enki.
Later on they both gave Marduk their Attributes..( they are all aspects of Marduk). Just like Olodumare and the Orishas...etc.
The stories are about the different gods.,The Torah is not left out.

Gods are not human beings. Let this information sink in. Stop looking at Scripture literally. They are oracles and always told in Allegories...

Let this stupidity stop.....please, it is nauseating...

Thank you.

That is our job..

That is why we exist.
We are God disguised in flesh.....

It is us that has to show love....

Prophit:
So consciousness created the universe?

The universe is pure consciousness....we are the forms through which it experiences itself...

Prophit:
Does God exist?

If yes, prove it

Consciousness is what God is...does consciousness exists?

God is the universal consciousness... personified.

Not a Jewish man up in the sky.

Digitmktguru:
"If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?"
i will be glad if you can give me biblical explanation to this?

The story actually started when Moses was born. Taking a single text out of the narrative will distort the flow.
The story of Moses and the Israelites is about moving from slavery(ignorance of self/self enlightenment) to the promised land (self awareness/higher consciousness). Everything from the beginning to the end is happening within. God is the universal divine consciousness. The stories are not literal. They are allegories. The letter killeth, the spirit giveth life. The spiritual message in the story is what gives life.
Most times here, I drop divine knowledge and most people resist it. It is their higher self(God consciousness) hardening the heart of pharaoh lower self(the ego).

The Torah is the most beautiful literature I have beheld.

This is exactly what is happening here with almost everyone...only a few are out of it. When I drop God's divine knowledge, some people will do all to resist it....
That is the take home from the story.....

MaxInDHouse:
God is LOVE so He will not tell us what we can't grasp without allowing us to see things for ourselves.
The Old Testament was written for man to know where we are coming from, how things got this bad and what God intended doing to salvage the situation.
The New Testament was written to make us see how difficult it is for a loving God to destroy people without giving them the opportunity to reason with Him.
In the Old Testament God gave a nation rules that will be applied if He (God) is in power to rule and if angels should serve as law enforcement agents.
Fornication, adultery, homosexual, lying, murder, stealing, fraud and many more things that could bring tears into the face of obedient mankind will not be tolerated as angels will exterminate perpetrators of such acts immediately but then things have been complicated because there are lots of demons being worshiped as God and many people don't know how to differentiate between true and false religion.
So imperfect mankind need time and two Testaments to fully understand what is happening around us it's not God who needs all these but imperfect humans!

Ok

MaxInDHouse:
Do you really want to know or you just feel like insulting and abusing someone this evening?
Because i have my own personal reason for saying it's the NEW TESTAMENT that brought light and understanding to make the OLD TESTAMENT worthwhile!

Yes I really want to know.

Then explain your answer.

Then tell me why a perfect God needs two testament why he did not get it right the first time.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you really want to know or you just feel like insulting and abusing someone this evening?
Because i have my own personal reason for saying it's the NEW TESTAMENT that brought light and understanding to make the OLD TESTAMENT worthwhile!

Yes I really want to know.

Then explain your answer.

MaxInDHouse:
Yet another opinion!

What or why would a perfect God need two testament?

What Isaiah actually wrote in chapter 9:6 of his book was :

6..For a [b]child has been born to us, a son given to us, [/b]and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:
7.To him who increases the authority, and for peace without end, on David's throne and on his kingdom, to establish it and to support it with justice and with righteousness; from now and to eternity, the zeal of the Lord of Hosts shall accomplish this.


The bolded is in past tense.
When Isaiah penned those words the child in question has already been born. The son has already been born to them. The person in question will be a future king that will seat on David's throne. Isaiah is prophesying that when he seats on the throne the people will rejoice, because he will be a righteous king. Hello was speaking of no other than future king Hezekiah.
It is not speaking about jesus(assuming jesus actually existed) He was never a king that sat on the throne of David.
I don't know why you people keep applying it to jesus. It is not about him.
Learn to read a story in context. Stop removing a text from it's contest that it is part of.

See the next verse self. It is not jesus..

MaxInDHouse:
OK that's your own PERSONAL opinion as each person is entitled to his but for me it's the New Testament that helps the Old Testament to make sense!

It therefore means you don't know anything.
There is only one testament . God got it right the first time.....

No new testament is needed.

This Bible was never meant to be own by any one outside of church leaders(Catholic). So at least the lie can be well contained. They would just select some good portions and add it to the bulletin of the day...and come to church and preach to the rabble.
When a certain German invented the printing press, a high ranking church man(cardinal Worsley) said " if we don't destroy this invention now, one day this invention will destroy us"..
The machine gave rise to the liberation of Europe and ended the dark ages.
Enter Africa....we are so unlucky that we were born during our own dark ages, which we created ourselves. We left our very rich traditional heritage, for the biggest lie ever told. We surely will get out of it...though slowly. But we will.

gohf:
no

See above..

gohf:
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.


since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

For there is one God . and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

Why did God need a son..

I expected to see God need a son because...bla bla.....

gohf:
God created the heavens and the earth and..... the spirit of God was moving upon the face of waters. Who told you that because God is a consuming fire who makes his ministers flame of fire and in front of Him are the burning ones means they are God?

There is only one God, stop asking me what I never insinuated nor suggested

Why does God need a son??

gohf:
if such was eternal then wouldn't sex also be in heaven?

Is there sex in heaven?

gohf:
if such was eternal then wouldn't sex also be in heaven?

Where is heaven?

And who do I need to interview to find out what happens there ?

gohf:
the bolded you highlighted did I say it was written in Genesis or did I tell you that it was a god or another god?

Did you even read what I wrote?

Did I in anyway infer that there was another god?

Ok. I read it now. And my post still stands.

He said there was no one besides him. So how you
And are you insinuating that God who is a spirit has another spirit??

Hope you know, God has no physical form.

gohf:
it would be impossible because?

You believe God is dumb and cannot speak anymore, or you think every living thing that came to be came to be through sex. So the staff of Moses turned to snake out of magic? Or bread manna from above was also magic? Should they not have farmed and harvested to eat?

Look when you lack basic understanding and knowledge of God, you will find it hard to accept what God said and what God does.

It is impossible because God would be breaking his own law...

gohf:
would love to go to London but not to see how it is falling, many of these people never truly believed and used religion for their own motives so it is understandable.

Saying God can't do something when there's nothing impossible for God would mean for you to agree God can't be a man to do what you just mentioned, but can God's power get a young lady pregnant who hasn't met a man before. Yes He can.

Who was the one who created the female organs, and proclaimed the laws of conception in the first place. It is God by his word or don't you believe God is able to do what He says?

God indeed doesn't need a son, but we do don't we, it is because of us God sent his son.

And how can you claim to believe the scriptures when you don't even understand the term "son of God"

That would be magic..

God already said a man's sperm will fertilize a woman's egg, so that a life can begin. When a woman just became pregnant without a man's input that would be impossible....

gohf:
Did God ever say He needed a son?

We are the ones who need the son of God not the other way around?

If you ask why does God need a representative upon the earth, then you can also ask why does God need to be God and create?


Only what God tells us is what we know, and what God revealed in Genesis is that God called for light and there was light and so began the rest of God's creation and making. God made a decision to make a tool to use for his work and God called him forth.

So maybe God would have used something else but what God did use to create was His word which He spoke and it performed.

Or are you saying I should explain why God needs His word?
It is for the same reason God brought forth His spirit, the spirit that gives wisdom before He spoke, so will I also have to know why God needs His spirit and His wisdom, have you ever considered that they were not for Him but for His purpose and what He wants to do.

I believe the goal of the Bereshit is God making a house full of His children and He decided how it was going to be and who would be in it.

There are things I don't know, even though you ask them. For example why is there God? How am I supposed to answer that, would we not first know who God is before we even consider why or even what He has need of. God who is self sufficient and sovereign He tells us He doesn't need anything He is sufficient for Himself, so all He has created and made isn't even for Himself and that's why His children inherit everything.

Where is the bolded contained in Genesis...

See Isaiah45: 5 &6

5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God: I will strengthen you although you have not known Me.
6 In order that they know from the shining of the sun and from the west that there is no one besides Me; I am the Lord and there is no other.

What do you have to say ?

gohf,
Why does God need a son for?

Maybe you have another angle to this discussion..

gohf:
there version of Christianity may be "bull crap" but that doesn't mean Jesus Christ isn't the son of God, we don't have to be religious and filling a form that says we are Christians to actually be true believers in God and believe in the one he has sent to us. The devil has propagated so many lives that why I believe salvation wasn't dependent on any text but on God's spirit and he reveals Himself to His people and draws them to salvation and those who are God's people are those who do what is good and right, for He who is judge of all will not destroy the righteous with the wicked.

Continue deluding yourself..
No be onyinbo bring Christianity for una..
Come to London and see how it is falling...
To them, it has served it's purpose...
God is not a Jewish man up in the sky...he is the universal divine consciousness fully embodied and personified....he can't impregnate any body ..he does not need a son..