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fredwill1357:
Why am I creating this topic? I create this topic to enlighten the world and to also get enlightened from people's inputs.

I sometimes see some Muslims singing Christian songs, and I reason within me how more peaceful, united and harmonious the world can become if we all realized that the universal God is one and God doesn't have a religion. Religions are merely pathways to God, created by man, sometimes with the help and inspirations of the holy spirit. However the supreme pathway to God is to worship God in spirit, truth and uprightness.

Why was the old testament and new testament mixed together? There are actually two different religious text, the old testament belongs to the Judaism religion and the new testament was created by the followers of Jesus.
This was done in a bid to paint Jesus as the messiah of the Jews prophesied about, the Jews till this day reject Jesus as their messiah, pointing out that he didn't fulfill the messianic prophecies. Yet some people continue to force Jesus on the Jews.

In the old testament for example, the Jewish god pointed out that he was a jealous unforgiving god that visits the sins of the fathers upon the children. In the new testament Jesus pointed out that the universal God is love and ever forgiving.

For a God that never changes, this is contradictory, but of course Jesus wasn't talking about the Jewish God, he never mentioned Jehovah. Jehovah is not mentioned in the new testament, Jesus always or usually addressed God as Father or simply God.
God doesn't have a name, what is the use of a name? A name distinguishes or differentiates, for the universal God without equal, beginning or end, what is the use of a name?
We can of course address God with honorable titles, however God doesn't have a birth, native or specific name. He is what he is.

Jesus is not God, he repeatedly pointed this out in many bible verses but some people insist on twisting things.
In John 14:28 Jesus said the father is greater than I am.
In Mark 10:18 he said why do you call me good, nobody is good except God.
Jesus prays, who does he pray to if he is God.

Jesus said things like I and the father are one and if you see me, you have seen God, however he simply meant that the spirit of God dwells in him and he is a good representative of God. The spirit of God dwells in all of us, so same can also be said of every Godly upright human. That is why Jesus said everything you do to another human, you do to me and God.

You don't have to fight for God, this shouldn't bring malice. If you have a contrary opinion or something to say, just voice it politely. Nobody knows it all, we are all learners.

To be continued.

The Torah only point is to God...
And it rightly said, it is within us .

Consciousness......higher consciousness.
Not a Jewish man up in the sky.

The Torah gives us the best way to attain a higher consciousness...

Like I always say...the aim is to learn and grow. We can make as much mistake as we like, end of the day...it is to achieve ONENESS...that is unity.

MaxInDHouse:
Next time think before typing because you said you and others are Gods and if you know the meaning of that title Gods don't need to be guided by anything each has the right to do whatever he/she/it wishes without consulting anyone!

But Gods know both good and evil..

And that is why the world is in this state....

But if we follow laws we would live in peace and prosper.

That is why i hammer on keeping the Torah...which does not include referencing an idol. As the practice would take us back as a species

MaxInDHouse:
You are a God and others are Gods too.

Then you Gods have a laws to guide you people.

Then another God gave you his status to help you Gods realize who you are and act accordingly.


All these simply because you don't want to hear about Christianity!

We are spirit beings living within a physical body made from dust...okpe

When we expire we go back being spirit beings...

And the spirit is the same image and likeness as God..

So?

Please see psalm 104
Genesis 1 &2
Ecclesiastes 12...

For details...

MaxInDHouse:
You just keep amusing me each time you try to play smart because i am a million times wiser than you in reasoning.

Wisdom and Jehovah's witnesses are mutually exclusive....

MaxInDHouse:
Dumb question!

How can you and i be Gods yet you're crossing to my domain insisting i must agree with you?

Does that even make any practical sense to you?

Ọmọ if you're God on your own and i am God on my own there's no reason why you and i should be having a discussion about how i should do my things, you do whatever pleases you while i also do whatever pleases me.

That's how Gods do!

Exactly...we only have laws to guide us ..
So you lot should stop knocking on people's door and telling them rubbish...

God gave us statues to help us realize who we are and act accordingly...

No man is coming to die for anybody, you make a mistake. Confess and forsake and grow....that's the purpose of life.

Youareforgiven:
Unintentional sins 👀
You don't no what you are saying. Where did God specify intentional and unintentional sin?

Unintentional sins are sins you commit without knowledge that it is actually a sin. In this case, only your body committed the sin...not your mind. In this case, animal sacrifice can be used as a means of atonement..but when you know it is a sin and you commit it... sacrifices don't work...you have to confess and forsake it....and for sacrifices, you have to be there when the animal is slaughtered and burnt......not in absentia.

MaxInDHouse:
[b]Whether you like it or not Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah God promised mankind [/b]but if the Jews rejected him that's their own cup of coffee they will never ever remain a nation and troubles will continue to befall them untill they welcome those bringing the message of Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 23:37-39

Lol, very funny...

Keep living in delusion, when you grow up you will learn..

MaxInDHouse:
So why are you always disturbing me since you are God on your own and you believe i am also God on my own!

Do you believe it?

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible from Genesis to Revelations is about the salvation of mankind.

That's why all the prophecies correlates.

So if some unbelieving Jews choose to discredit the prophecies simply because Jesus never supported their political ambitions you should think twice.

God doesn't know Israel from the beginning of creation it's Abraham God made promises to and said if his descendants keeps the covenant at heart He will continue with them forever but the nation of Israel never hold the covenant with seriousness so the whole thing can't be about that nation.

Salvation from what? My friend.?

Olodo

We are God's having a human experience...not the other way round.

Man is God breath + dust of the earth.

So at "death, God takes his breath and we bury the body for it to return to the earth.
What needs to be saved?? Let me understand you..


God is consciousness....hope you know that.

He is not a Jewish man up in the sky..

Do you know this??

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ go and learn before coming here to argue.

If i choose to leave you in your ignorance it doesn't mean i have accepted your nonsense i just feel like allowing you to continue with your delusion that's why i keep telling you to stay away from me after that day you got so mad that you began talking about Hellfire that you never believed!

Your problem is that you are using a mistranslated version. So it is quite difficult to keep up with you..I read the whole of Daniel 9 in Hebrew, all these you claim are not even there..

MaxInDHouse:
Oya read the context and point out where the name ISRAEL appears in those verses!

Which one are we talking about?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy what does Daniel meant by saying Messiah will be cut off (killed) Jesus was killed that's what it means but if your Jewish landlord told you something else let me know!

Read the whole thing, like I said I have a feeling the Messiah in question is Cyrus....

I will get back to you on it..

MaxInDHouse:
When someone chooses to deceive himself it's best to just let him be!

David called the Messiah "my lord" yet you're saying all kings are Messiahs but in that same Psalms David wrote:

Jehovah has sworn an oath, and he will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever In the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek!” Psalms 110:4

So all the Kings of Israel are Priests forever like Melchizedek shey?

Stop dancing like a headless chicken.

Context is key....stop taking text out of its position. That why you keep missing the mark.
Leave it as it is and read everything.....you will see the messages in a new light.

MaxInDHouse:
Messiah will be cut off ńkọ́? Daniel 9:26

Is Israel the Messiah that will be cut off?

You lied that Psalms 110 was talking about Israelites kings as Messiahs yet verse 4 said he is a priest in the order of Melchizedek forever.

So are Israelite kings also priests?

You problem is that you are fond of removing text from it's context..that is why you keep missing the message...and what I discovered is that nearly every Christian here does that...read the whole story and learn the message it is passing across. We are expected to take the messages from the story and live by it. But you lot keep removing the text and spend all day arguing about it.
Isaiah is a continuous narrative..

Psalms are sung meant to be sung during worship., they are not prophesy and for good measure, a prophet is somebody that tells the truth,not somebody that predicts the future...

The Jewish concept of a Messiah is somebody who is anointed with a special oil to the service of God. This might include priest as well as kings.

The Messiah the Jews were expecting is an ordinary man from a royal family who will be a king/priest. Not a demi god. The idea of a demi god is alien to Judaism. That is my point.

I don't know how else to teach you..

The Messiah that is cut off might be Cyrus......who Fred the captives.,I have not really studied the history surrounding that passage. But you will understand that all these writings where done way way after the facts, so it is difficult to place...I will get to you on that..

Youareforgiven:
Leviticus is no more in the old testament. You are the one seeing blood/human sacrifice. What I saw is someone taking my place in death that I truly deserved. What I saw is Jesus Christ been condemned that was meant for me.

Human sacrifice has got nothing to do with God. It is an abomination to him...

Only molech accepts human sacrifice...that's who you are serving....

Animal sacrifice was allowed for unintentional sins...not human being.
God created us imperfect with the aim that we make mistakes and learn and grow and evolve....

Nobody is coming to save you, you are supposed to save yourself. That is the idea.

Gods mercy endureth for ever...

MaxInDHouse:
You purposely came to my thread just to insult me for my faith but if i offer to help you know verses that sonmvayina can't shy away from will you believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are witnesses of Christ Jesus for real?

Well if you want to silence sonmvayina the word of God is enough, you don't need to waste your time arguing with him because he knows next to nothing about God's arrangement to redeem mankind.

Why not quote this verse and ask him to say whatever comes up to his brain regarding this prophetic words from Isaiah?

Truly he himself carried our sicknesses, And he bore our pains. But we considered him as plagued, stricken by God and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgression; He was crushed for our errors. He bore the punishment for our peace, And because of his wounds we were healed. Like sheep we have all wandered about, Each has turned his own way, And Jehovah has caused the error of us all to meet up with him. He was oppressed and he let himself be afflicted, But he would not open his mouth. He was brought like a sheep to the slaughter, Like a ewe that is silent before its shearers, And he would not open his mouth. Isaiah 53:4-7

Daniel also wrote this:

“And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself" Daniel 9:26

That's what faithful Jews believe about the Messiah or Christ that he will be cut off (Killed) for the salvation of mankind.

The above prophecies were all fulfilled in Jesus of Nazareth in a perfect way so if anyone wants to argue regarding the sacrificial death of God's only begotten Son who died to save us let him go and edit the prophecy of Isaiah and Daniel.

May you have PEACE!

Olodo

See him quoting something I have told him a million times that the suffering servant is Israel..

You are so full of shit..

You are just not ready to learn.

Maximus, the suffering servant is Israel..stop taking text out of context...olodo, that's how you thrive..

Youareforgiven:
Leviticus is no more in the old testament. You are the one seeing blood/human sacrifice. What I saw is someone taking my place in death that I truly deserved. What I saw is Jesus Christ been condemned that was meant for me.

Where did you get all these ideas from...

Do you even know what man is?
And what God is?

MaxInDHouse:
God always count number of those worshiping Him as a congregation not those who can't work together as one!

JW.org

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you call it doesn't matter to Jehovah what matters is ONENESS!

Hookay

Kingsempires:
This is your interpretation

Lol..that's what's there..

Read it yourself from verse 1...

In context. Isaiah did not add verses to his work. It is a continuous narrative..

MaxInDHouse:
Wrong is what can't WORK out anywhere it's like you trying to force people to agree with you that 3+3=5 and you can't present any place where it's working out.

So if you keep arguing about what you think is fact but can't present any group where it's working out what is beneficial i will continue to laugh at you and your logic!

When you say "working" do you mean like brain washing??

MaxInDHouse:
Wrong is what can't WORK out anywhere it's like you trying to force people to agree with you that 3+3=5 and you can't present any place where it's working out.

So if you keep arguing about what you think is fact but can't present any group where it's working out what is beneficial i will continue to laugh at you and your logic!

Can you count the number of people in this world that are keeping the Torah?
We don't need to be in a cult...

We love ourselves......

This is one of MaxinDhouse banana peels....I have told him to read it in context.
He knows he is wrong...but he just wants to be in a performing group....

Youareforgiven:
No excuse in law.
✝ Hebrews 9:22

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."
✝ Leviticus 17:11

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."


In the absence of the sacrifice, your sins remains and every soul that sins must die.

Thanks for proving my point..

Blood /human sacrifice is a Christian ideology...it has got nothing to do with God.

Just repent, God will forgive..
A contrite heart you will not spurn...Psalm 50.

Kingsempires:
na WA oo are you saying this to justify your story

Are you saying he was impotent?

Because men that age are sex stud...

If he existed, he was sexually active like any young man...

All those who believe the Trinity are guilty of the sin of idolatry

I just wonder how they manage to divide God into 3 and still arrive at 1.
God is indivisible...

God is the universal divine consciousness...not a Jewish man up in the sky...
Man don't become God and God don't become man....we all have the divine spark within us.

Wait oh....let us assume that Jesus actually existed...how the hell is he different from us?
He popped....we popped
He ate.....we eat
He fvcked (the woman at the well, he gave living water (sperm) so she can become pregnant...,......we Fvck.

He died.,..,.....we all will die one day .

So how come he is worshipped?

And My dad is not?

MaxInDHouse:
I can understand you!

Messiah means "anointed king"

Jesus was not.....How did you even make the connection.

Youareforgiven:
✝ 2 Chronicles 7:4

"Then the king and all the people offered sacrifices before the LORD."

KJV Bible✝ 2 Chronicles 7:5

"And king Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty and two thousand oxen, and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep: so the king and all the people dedicated the house of God."

KJV Bible

Why didn't you start from beginning?

In the absence of the temple?
Sacrifices are only done in a temple...so in the absence of a temple

What is obtainable?

MaxInDHouse:
Did David believe in the coming Jewish Messiah?

It is not a prophecy.....

Max in a performing group....
It is a song meant to be sung during weekly worship..
David was a Messiah, he knew that all coming Messiah will be his children..because God promised him that the Sceptre will not depart from his family....

Do you understand?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question!

David wrote the psalm and gave it to the choirmaster...

Psalms are meant to be sung during service.

So the psalm when sung by the choirmaster will read..

The Lord(most high) said to my lord (David).....

If you read it in context, but as usual.....you will close your eyes to it....

Iamanoited:
"Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question"!


CHECK A GOOD ENGLISH DICTIONARY FOR THE WORD LORD.

THE FIRST LORD IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, GOD IN GOD'SPERE.
THE SECOND IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN CHRIST JESUS.

READ GENESIS 1-4. KJV.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS OF GOD IS NOT GRANTED TO THE ATHEISTS.

David wrote the psalm and gave it to the choirmaster...

So the two lords are David and the most high...


Psalms are meant to be sung during worship..


Comprende??

Youareforgiven:
So how do plan to be forgiven by God,? Abi you don't sin? Do you still sacrifice rams and sheeps for your sin offering today? I know why I ask.

Or do you just ask of forgiveness, hoping that God will wave away your sins because you asked.

See 2nd chronicles 7:14.

I hope it answers your question.

Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...