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MaxInDHouse:
Who was present during the writing?

It was written by a whole lot of people...in full view...

Michael547:
Is Elohim or God the personal name of the Almighty God of the Bible?

That's what is in the Aramaic version of the Tanakh..God is a latter latter invention.

MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing about you is shooting yourself in the foot always!

To whom was the Torah or Tanak given and who was there?

It is for the Jews and their national religion called Judaism...written by their priest and prophets..

Michael547:
So you don't know the name of the God of the Bible because you are from delta? Then how are you able to read the Bible since it's a Jewish book?

I just did a simple goggle search.

Michael547:
Ok....what is the name of the God of the Bible?

Am not Jewish..
I am Igbo from Delta state...

MaxInDHouse:
I quoted what is written some 2,000 years ago and presented a global family of peace loving worshipers practicing what the historical figure said.

Ọmọ if you don't believe what is written and what you can see with your own eyes then what exactly do you know?

Since I came here....I have asked you to tell somebody who actually saw him..

Maybe someone who was among the 5000+ people he fed or anybody that was there when he rode on a stolen donkey.

Not what people said, he said ....those guys might be writing a fictional novel. Which I guess was the case...somebody saw it and created a false religion around it to deceive people...

Michael547:
So you are saying that all books point to the God of the Bible?

ALL....With the exception of the Christian literatures...
God has different name in different cultures....God is not a Jewish man up in the sky. It is the universal divine consciousness....

MaxInDHouse:
With JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Jesus has been the one and only historical figure no one can deny! Act 1:8

You are still quoting the same book as evidence...nah

BitterPost:
Bro... The people that clap and dance are much better than the coward you quoted.

Lol..

MaxInDHouse:
He knows everything except the church that's practicing what Jesus taught.

Indirectly telling you that Jesus is a FAILURE!

How can someone who never existed fail?
Much like saying super man failed.
They only exist in pages of books written by men.

Michael547:
You Mean you did know about God from a book?

There is no God in any book on planet earth....

All they do is point you to God.
Which is within us all...

Michael547:
So are you saying that the solution to stop pastors from extorting their members is to stop Christian gatherings all together?

God is better experienced...like I do now.

Not gather to clap and dance and read from a book nobody knows who wrote it..and pay tithe and offering...idiotic if you ask me

paxonel:
Catholic through out history, started taking advantage of gathering to exploit people, that's why the likes of Martin Luther King jnr revolted.

They are still exploiting till now

Is that not what it always has been?
Money through exploitation
Control
And power....

StillDtruth:
Says the codeine induced madman.😆 Who give you sense say make you comot your profile picture wey you dey show efribody say you be true true mad person with dat ur open shirt.and head wey no.correct?😆

My offer still stands.

You are not mentally sound..

Please see a psychiatrist..

I know about Catholic worship..

What does worship entail in other denomination?

MightySparrow:
Well, that is your view about God.
What if you are wrong?

I am not...That is what the Bible is talking about at least the Tanakh..


I don't know about the Christian literatures..

God is the universal divine consciousness....fully embodied..

Not a Jewish man up in the sky...

StillDtruth:

You are talking with yourself?

My offer still stands.
The earlier you check into an asylum. The better for you...
I will pay for your treatment...you might be a danger to society.

Let us help you..

MightySparrow:
You have seen God before?

God is the universal divine consciousness...not a Jewish man that lives up in the sky..

Kingsempires:
Jesus said that anyone who eat my flesh and drink my blood such not die but i don't still understand what you are explaining

That's even worse and gross...ehau
Cannibalism whether pretend or real is only practiced in occult settings...

Like I said before, the idea was incorporated into the Christian literatures from mithraism...

Talk of wanting a single religion for your empire. So the Romans and Greeks incorporated ideas from multiple cults..

Run from it...I will create a thread where I will teach you the Torah ( God's divine laws) Not this contraption you call a belief system.

Kingsempires:
Jesus blood cleanse away the sins of the world but i don't still understand what you are explaining

So everybody is going to heaven

Steep:
Yes Jesus submitted to the father, the purpose of Jesus coming is to be that perfect servant who offers himself as sacrifice for the salvation of the world, see this scripture below,

Isaiah 52:13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.

What does the scripture say about a son and a servant.
Malachi 1:6 A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?

Since Jesus is the Son and fulfills the role as a servant it makes sense that he submits to the father.

And also submitting to God means Jesus Completely trusted in the father.

How does a servant become a son?
You well so?
A distinction is made between son and servant you are saying something else..

The servant is the Isaiah 52 is Israel...I have told you several times....

Not jeebus

Steep:
The person speaking called himself the first and the Last, and said "I am he'
And also he is the one that created the heavens and the earth.
This is God speaking.
Isaiah 48:9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for thee, that I cut thee not off. 48:12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

That's the Oracle(God) talking...and Isaiah in writing it down. Only Isaiah was consulting.....and writing the information God was giving...

MightySparrow:
You have seen God before?

Yes....I looked in a mirror.
And he looked back at me and smiled..
And said..
"You'll be ok"..keep going forward, I will always path the sea for you..

We all have God within us.....it is only covered by this dust(mud)..

MightySparrow:
I don't know what God is but what He is not.

That is easy..
Go find out what God is...that is the real deal.
Hint: He does not look like any of his creations.

So far most people interpret scriptures as literals. For God sake, they are not. They are oracles.
What that means is that the prophet consults God with water ever talisman they use. Some use cowries..And the prophet relates to the person or people using parables just like nollywood movies and Hollywood movies....
It is those stories the Jews has developed into stories we call Bible..

In other to remind us that God creates and destroys they wove/ created the story of Noah and the flood. Which was a tale taken from the epic of Gilgamesh.
The epic of Gilgamesh for precedes the Bible by more than a thousand years..


Not historical stories. They are meant to teach universal spiritual truth.

That's why said " The letter killeth".

Steep:
It is not a contradiction. God is one in essence but three in person.
Allah in the Koran wants to be more than one person badly that he keeps using "we" everywhere. Again Muslims do not know the meaning of tawheed they say tawheed mean Allah is only one but tawheed actually means a unification of many things.
In the old testament God use the word "us" to describe himself.
The nation of Israel is called an "He" even though they are made up of many persons.
The word used to describe God's oneness in deuteronomy 6:4 is echad, and echad as used in th bible is a plural unity as against yachad which is singular unity.
When God said Adam and eve would become one flesh the word one is actually the echad which is the plural form of unity.
When the Yahweh went to Sodom and Gomorrah to destroy it, it was reported that Yahweh called down fire from yahweh out of heaven, meaning yahweh on earth called down fire from yahweh in heaven.
There is a particular entity called "The Angel of the Lord" in the old testament, he his God, he speaks as yahweh and at the say time he is distinguished from yahweh.
In Isaiah 48:16, the person taking is God speaking but he distinguished himself from the Lord God and the Spirit.
Note the Spirit is placed on the same personhood with the Lord God but yet the spirit is distinct from the Lord God.

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

From this verses it is clear that they are three persons
1. Is the God that is speaking
2. The Lord God that is sending God
3. The spirit of God who is also sending God along with the Lord God.
All three are the same God but different persons.
The Trinity is in the old testament right from Genesis 1.

Bullshit..

Isaiah is the one writing and talking.
God sent him with a new spirit to become his prophet.....
God is not a man. Isaiah was consulting the Oracle....


Stop manipulating..

MightySparrow:
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So Jehovah said to become whatever He would as occasion demands? That is the Trinity we talk about.

Do you know what God is?..to begin with. To see that is even possible.

Please I would like to hear from you.

Kingsempires:
Isa 9:6; a child is born to us ! a son is given to us! and he will be our ruler.he will be called,"wonderful counsel" "MIGHT GOD","ETERNAL FATHER","PRINCE OF PEACE" So how is it now king hezekiah he was talking of. So is it now hezekiah that is called might God ?

Yes, those where king Hezekiah names..

As at the time Isaiah was writing, the son has already been given. Hezekiah was like 6 years old at that time...

There is no future terms there...read further you will see that the person being talked about will be a king and will sit on Davids thrown..those doesn't sound like the jman does it?

Always read Bible stories in context...

Where was jman even called those name?

There is only one God ,creator of heaven and earth. There is no one in his left, his right hand side in front of him or behind him..He is the lugal dimmer ankia (The divine king of heaven and earth)
The Bible uses the phrase "the sons of God". They are what the yorubas call "ORISHA" They represents the forces of nature. Like Sango in yorubas and Thor in nords which represents the forces of thunder and lightning. They are not God. They are the laws and principles of life,.....shikena

Question I asked my self that made me leave Christianity for Good and I have also asked the question here..
You say God is the creator of heaven and earth...right.
How can God be the creator and still be part of creation...does not make any sense.
How can Steve Jobs(may God rest his soul) be the creator of the iPhone and still be part of iPhone or send his son to be part of iPhone?
Does it make sense at all??

Kingsempires:
ok another question I want to ask;
In John 6;47-53 when Jesus was saying I'm the bread of life. So have anybody prophet in the bible called his self bread of life that if anyone eat my flesh and drink my blood will not die. If you also read Luke chapter 22;14-23 you will also see when Jesus took the bread and wine and blessed it and said this is my body and also when he bless the wine he also said this is my blood so what did you understand in this verses I have quoted for you

No prophet in the Bible have made such a statement like that before. Jesus is the only one that made those statements

That idea was gotten from mithraism and inculcated into the Christian religion.
Cannibalism is forbidden by God in his laws, whether pretend cannibalism or real cannibalism...