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MaxInDHouse:
You're just an insane!

MaxInDHouse:
Was Nebuchadnezzar a name or title like Caesar?

MaxInDHouse:
Did the Jews believe in Moses?
Is Moses not a man?

MaxInDHouse:
Who asked people around him to bow down before an image? Exodus 20:4-5

MaxInDHouse:
So what laws was given to the Israelites and when?

MaxInDHouse:
After introducing Himself to the man called Abram God signed a deal with him for a purpose {Genesis 12:1-3} the promise is to use the descendants of Abram for a global campaign in order to save mankind in general.

Abram didn't know what the plan was but he believes something needs to be done to rescue mankind from slavery to sickness and death so he agreed with this spirit who called Himself the Almighty God. Exodus 6:3

Later Abraham had eight children and God told him that the promises will be fulfilled through one of his son called Isaac {Genesis 17:18-21} Isaac also had two sons and God told him that the promise has been transferred to Jacob (Isaac's second son)


Jacob had twelve sons and there was trouble in Jacob's family due to the gift of dreams found in the second to the last born of his son known as Joseph but did God passed the promise to Joseph? NO! It supposed to be given to each first born in the family unless the first born proves to be unworthy of the purpose. Jacob's first, second and third sons proved to be unworthy so the promise was transferred to his fourth son called "Judah"

But if God wants to deliver mankind through the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob then why was He destroying the people of the nations before the Israelites?

To be continued....

TheNazarene:
What is good in something that comes to take life?


What is good in something that makes your loved ones cry?


What is good in death?

Michael547:
Why the question sir?

Michael547:
Prove your accusations Oga.

Michael547:
You that have studied it and know all the contradictions, why not answer the question?

SIRTee15:
did u read all the evidence I sent here?

SIRTee15:
Now I will flush your face with clear evidence that the Jews before coming of Jesus believed Psalm 53 was a messianic prophecy.
What changed after coming of Jesus is what U should ask yourself.

SIRTee15:
So who started the claim that Isaiah 53 is about Israel.
It was a rabbi called Rashi in the 10th century.

SIRTee15:
So the choice is yours.
You either follow ancient rabbis or a revisionist called Rashi.

As I always say, person wey wan go hell fire no dey hear word but will do everything possible to end up in hell no matter what we do.

U can close your eyes and continue to believe your delusion.
But at least U won't say SIRTee didn't show U the truth.

Qasim, AntiChristian U Muslims guys can also learn the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
The title "GOD" connotes SUPREME BEING you can't deny the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are excellently doing the will of God as found written in the Bible so if you think their GOD was created yet the worshipers are fulfilling what the Bible God promised long ago then your own god who can't do anything is DEAD! Psalms 115:4-8

For your information the other guy i shunned has also been blinded by hatred for truth just as you're blinded right now.
GOD is a spirit that you can't see so the only evidence of His existence is the activities of His worshipers which must be in line with His purpose for mankind.

Several times you have acknowledged that i'm a competent student of the scriptures but your problem is the source of my knowledge which is through the Bible God - Jesus of Nazareth - his Jewish disciples - Governing Body and Jehovah's Witnesses.



You just want me to cut of Jesus, his disciples, Governing Body and Jehovah's Witnesses so that i can stand as if the knowledge came from tin air the same thing is affecting the other guy but he welcome two more factors which is Jesus and his disciples but the rest he despises with contempt, you guys are not different from atheists who acknowledged that humans like them are intelligent but keep despising the source of life God for reasons best known to them.

So whether you like it or not all your gods are useless and worthless if there is no evidence of it's existence other than what is found written in books because anyone can write books and claim it's inspired but only the true God can make a promise and actualize it within His worshipers not by might or military forces! Zechariah 4:6

SIRTee15:
Why should I doubt it?
Give me evidence why I should doubt it.
It's not just how U feel

SIRTee15:
I don't consider psalm 91 a messianic psalm. It's a poetic psalm that's applicable to everybody.

Some Christians may have attributed it as such but it's not amongst the messianic passages as per 2nd temple Jews.
Pre Christian Jews do not see it as a messianic prophecy.

Besides no messianic prophecy defines the whole of the Messiah ministry.
So I don't get the point of your argument at all.

Tallesty1:
People always give reasons for their actions, even irrational ones. The real question is, what does the Bible say about these things?

"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." Exodus 20:4-6.

Some might argue that this is Old Testament and does not count anymore, so let's see what's in the New Testament.

"]But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him." John 4:23-24.

Also, what they post as Jesus, God, or even Mary are not their actual pictures. What they post as Jesus is either Leonardo Da Vinci's painting of his partner or one white actor. Nobody has seen God; I don't know how they got his image, and the woman they post as Mary is actually the statue of a goddess.

If you mention Mary, they lie that they only honor her and not worship her, yet they do it in their prayers. Let's take this one for example:

"We fly to thy patronage, O holy Mother of God; despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers, O glorious and blessed Virgin."

Even a sane person, even fools, know that the above is a prayer, everyone except Catholics.

MaxInDHouse:
This is really funny walahi talahi!

Ọmọ your stupidity knows no bound!

For your information i was a Muslim from my childhood so i can confidently tell you that there are many religious groups claiming they are Muslims with different doctrines just as those claiming Christians but there is no single group in Islam that fits into the description you are reading in that Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 in fact no religion on planet earth fits in except Jehovah's Witnesses.

Read it again and again:

"God promised that in the final part of the days people from all the geographical locations on this planet will find their way into one religious group and they will use what they found in the Bible to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into the production of food and information materials stop the production, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their neighbours"

Apart from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you can never ever find another religion that (perfectly) fits into that description, NEVER!

MaxInDHouse:
A global organization of peace loving people {Isaiah 2:2-4} is undeniable proof that Jesus Allah who is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} as living WITNESSES of JesusAllah {Act 1:8} so you and all your cohorts are wrong if a global family of peace loving worshipers could suffice in a divided world filled with violence!

SIRTee15:
So if God can forgive sin without blood, why did he tell Israelites to sacrifice animals and use their blood for atonement.
That's My question.
If U don't know, say U don't know.

sonmvayina:
Christians believe that one needs a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin and that one who does not have a blood sacrifice will die in their sins and go to hell. For Christians, the ultimate and only blood sacrifice that counts with God came in the death of Jesus. Christianity believes that if one does not accept the death of Jesus as one’s blood sacrifice, then one is condemned to an eternity enduring the punishments of hell.

In Judaism the centrality of the animal sacrifices ceased, not with the second destruction of the Temple by the Romans, but rather with the first destruction of the Temple by the Babylonians. One must keep in mind that the vast majority of Jews never returned to the Promised Land under Cyrus of Persia. They remained in Babylonia. By the time Jesus was said to have been born, eighty percent of the world’s Jewish community lived outside the Promised Land, and did not care about the cessation of animal sacrifices. When the Temple was reestablished, the Jews of Babylonia made an annual financial gift for the maintenance of the Temple and the land, but never worried that God would not forgive them their sins without a blood sacrifice (much as Jews all over the world do today). They had no such fear because the Bible makes it explicitly clear that no blood sacrifice is necessary for the forgiveness of sins. The Bible also makes it clear that an animal sacrifice is not the exclusive means of obtaining forgiveness.

SIRTee15:
Can Israel forgive their own sins.
That's my question.

U said it's not a messianic prophecy. What if I show U that the 2nd temple Jews believed Isaiah 53 was about the Messiah.
If I bring the evidence here, will U accept?

MaxInDHouse:
If not Moses who stood as mediator did God read the laws into the hearing of all Israelites?

Guy people transferred the laws to people just as Moses taught the Israelites God's laws the same way Jesus and his representatives taught us God's laws.

Once you don't relate with anyone then the laws makes no practical sense the only purpose of the law is for us to relate peacefully with our neighbors and that the GOVERNING BODY has achieved among Jehovah's Witnesses!

SIRTee15:
U are a big joke.
Forget what verses....
It's now become cherry picking what suits your agenda
Why not allow the scripture to speak for itself....

I warned U to stay away but your stubborn self wouldn't listen.
See where U ended up...

Next time learn to mind your business.

SIRTee15:
Ok so we now acknowledge that God demands blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin from the ancient Israelites.

So the question now is what changed. How come all U need to do now is ask God and he will forgive your sins.
Why did he change his mind?
When did he change his mind?
Why did God abandon the blood sacrifice and is now saying all U need have your sin forgiven is to raise up your hand and ask.
Why did he institute above right from the beginning.

I thought God doesn't change, why did he change mind concerning forgiveness of sin.

Ken4Christ:
You submissions are incorrect. The scripture says;

Hebrews 9:22. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and WITHOUT SHEDDING OF BLOOD IS NO REMISSION.

Let this point above sink into your head first.

Read the verses that followed;

Hebrews 9:23-26.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he APPEARED TO PUT
AWAY SIN BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF.

So, where did you get your revelation.

Let me tell you something about the Jews you don't know. The majority of them are hell bound. In fact, the present race of Jews have been cut off from God and they are all in a state of spiritual blindness.

This is why Isaiah wrote;

Isaiah 1:9 Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

You see how Isaiah likened them to Sodom and Gomorrah. What differentiate them from Sodom and Gomorrah is because of the remnant reserved for salvation. And that will happen in future.

Apostle Paul made reference to this when he wrote;

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

And he revealed when it will happen;

Romans 11:25-26
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

The phrase, all Israel shall be saved refers to the remnant that will be alive during that period.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely if you have lived during the time of the Elders in Israel you would be one of the rebels against God's organized people asserting they are brainwashing the people.
God's people are not taking up arms today because He promised to write His laws in their hearts unlike the Torah you're quoting which is not applicable anywhere again today not even in Israel where it was formally their constitution {Jeremiah 31:31-34} and with that all those having God's laws in their hearts knew that they shouldn't pick up arms against their neighbours most especially their fellow worshipers of the true God {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} they are globally speaking the same language of PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9