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CatfishBilly:
I'm not under any obligation to reveal my specialty to anyone, the people that have the right to know are my patients and the smiles on their faces after they see me makes it all worth it.

There is nothing special about revealing your specialty because as a medical practitioner that is your uniqueness and people can know the right questions to ask and the right cases to bring to you and can also know your limitations in medicine.

Say it and be damned for the liar you are.

Since you are not under any obligation to respond to my close to 30 singular question yet assume i am also under obligation to respond to your staccato of questions then you must need am fMRI

akintom:
TB Joshua and Oyakhilome are not aware that ayefele exist. But now that sister bennyann is aware, we might see Yahweh proving itself.

Can you answer my question sir

CatfishBilly:
You say you're a surgeon and you can't even answer those questions.
You made the claim, not me.
So, our paramedic who is also a trauma surgeon and a plastic surgeon.
Where did you do your residency?
Are you a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons?
Do you scrub into the theater?
Do they hand you scalpel to perform surgeries?

I'm certified by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (the body that license foreign trained doctors in the US) do your want my ECFMG number to verify? Nah, not giving, privacy issues.
Im Licensed by MDCN (Nigeria)
I'm licensed by the hospital country where I graduated from Med school, which also gives me the license to Practice in Germany and Russia.
We're dropping certifications, right?

Listen kid the time it took you to type all that rubbish up there it would have taken you a far less time to simply type your medical specialty.
You said you were practicing medicine in Europe and Africa. Then you said you are licensed to practice in 3 countries and working on your 4th. However your comment here says you already have 4 licenses. one in USA, One in Nigeria, One in Germany which by extension covers Russia which makes 4 countries already so how come you are still seeking a 4th license? lol so much lies in you sir

Quack dr fish what is your medical specialty?

akintom:
Perhaps what?

Now tell me you do not know that PERHAPS means maybe yes or maybe no. You still have not answered my question.

bennyann:
Hmmmm

I have no interest in watching the video. Since I wasn't there live to be able to tell if it's staged or not then no need watching it cos my answers, even all our answers may be wrong or right because those are the only outcomes - true or false.

To me miracles are real and you're also not wrong to say, miracles can be staged.

But why do we go around calling all miracles staged?The best way to get the truth is to look for the benefiters of those miracles we see on videos and then find out from there. That's the best way to go about investigating instead of calling them staged. Besides the faces of those who received the miracles weren't hidden.

So anyone interested in finding out if it's staged or not should do the investigations rightly and not by guessing in an authoritative manner. Also, the person should publish facts after his findings, to prove why a miracle shown on public videos in the midst of thousands is said to be staged - the best evidence will be for those who received the said miracles to give a different version of their testimony by telling us they were all staged.

Your last statement was why i said "PERHAPS". I need a before and during assessment and then an after. So why kick against what you never witnessed? Thats what these crafty atheists are good at. I know them and their methods. Its the same the world over.

CatfishBilly:
Where did you do your residency, it's not a matter of plenty English and rigmaroles.
You're a surgeon, yea? Both Trauma surgeon and aesthetic surgeon, no problem.
Where did you do your residency? Are you a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons?
Do you scrub into the theater?
Do they hand you a scalpel to perform surgeries?
Simple questions really


Which errors? A surgeon that doesn't know that the brain and spinal cord is part of the CNS?
A surgeon that checks the nail bed and jaw for apnea?
What has cessation of breath got to do with the nail bed for god sakes?

Responding to you is ludicrous if i may say so myself. You cannot state a simple medical specialty you are in as a self professed intercontinental medical practitioner with 3 practicing licenses in 3 countries and working on a 4th yet you have absolutely no medical specialty while fumbling and bumbling all medical knowledge and procedure.

You must be a genie in a bottle who makes everyones medical wishes come true.

akintom:
Your claim (as well as that of your fellow Christians) on this thread, is that your God (an idea), healed a lunatic.

Can you establish that, rationally and intelligently?

My claim was "PERHAPS".

I never said YES neither did i say NO which was why i asked you earlier why you are generalizing?

I asked you if you would share this premise of your claim to this "God idea" introduction sir?

CatfishBilly:
And we have an impasse, gentlemen.
A surgeon that didn't do residency coming here to claim a surgeon.
It's a shame that these folks aren't medically inclined and can't see through your lies, they'll support you, you're there Christian sister.

I know the atheist technique sir so try not to use the old methods on me because they would not work. You wish to discredit me in the face of your humiliation and quackery.

What is your medical specialty Quack Dr Fish?

If i am duly licensed from BAAPS and HCPC and registered by the General Medical Practitioners council here in the uk then you have hit a rut with me and your attempt at discrediting me. All the errors you made medically i put you right. All the supposed medical regulatory bodies you mentioned i corrected you. Yet you talk about Residency? How much lower in Hypocritical quackery would you sink sir?

What is your medical specialty?

akintom:
* first, there can't be MORE rational or intelligent, for what's ab initio irrational and unintelligent.

Learn to be observant of my use of words, it will help you respond properly.

*your claims of existence of God, is irrational and unintelligent ABSOLUTELY, because the premises on which God idea, was introduced into human experience, is COMPLETELY faulty.

It's COMPLETELY faulty, because it's UNTESTABLE.

Ok now i helped get specifics from you. You can be more rational and more intelligent in the face of what you claim is irrational and unintelligent so do not think you can use words albeit wrongly.

Your choice of the word ABSOLUTELY means you have a supposed more rational and more intelligent position which you used in comparison and evaluation especially since you also claimed its FAULTY.

Can you share this premise of the "God idea" introduction sir? You seem to have all the answers locked down due to you supposed "rationality and intelligence"

CatfishBilly:
So, @ spacetacular and co.
So what your idea of a medical practitioner is someone who claims to be a paramedic, a trauma surgeon and a plastic surgeon at the same time? Really?
Since you're a surgeon then, riddle me this question.
Which Medical school did you attend?
Where did you do your residency?
Are you a Fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons?


Of course your fellow theists will last up what you say, it's all about theist vs atheist, not being objective.

Riddle yourself those questions while you answer the singular question i have asked you close to 30 times sir.

What is your medical specialty?

hopefulLandlord:
both are actually very much practical though, even looking at the conversation superficially

I can't say who's really more practical than the other cuz they all seem to be speaking in tongues to me and I can stick my neck out and say they just seem to be involved in different fields cuz medicine is a very wide field and the word "doctor" is just a layman term to unify all

the discussion was interesting at the beginning but as it dragged on and on I just wished it would end and we'll focus more on this (staged) "miracle"

Yes Medical science is a vast field with over 60 specialties which was why i kept asking him to tell me his specific medical specialty and he could not do that. I wanted to talk to him based on his specific field but he knew i would find him out so kept dodging the question.

As an EMS my training / field experience cuts across all fields of medicine.

bennyann:


The longest medical conversation so far on the religion section. They derailed though but it was interesting. I've never seen someone face him that way. I only wish they find a way of conversing so it won't lead to insults.

And yes, they're both involved in medicine but one seems to be more practical than the other.

Hi Bennyann I didn't insult him. I only called him who he is. A quack. His knowledge of medicine is from online journals and not from any medical school or medical practice.

He is not a medical practitioner.

akintom:
You see, I'm very aware of the complex cognitive inhibition and distortion, that are secondary to religious beliefs.
which is abundantly traceable, amongst most Christian apologists here.

Still, you didn't understand my post that you're quoting. Try again;

I'm reasonably aware, that your claims of existence of God, is irrational and unintelligent!

How can you possibly post this question to the above?

You are "reasonably aware" that the claims of Christians on the existence of God is both irrational and unintelligent yeah?

How high and within what scope is this reasoning of yours? When you say Reasonably aware it does not depict emphasis on Gods lack of existence. I expected a Yes or No answer from you and not "reasonably aware".

If you say its Irrational and unintelligent can you offer a more rational and more intelligent claim which is absolute?

petra1:
WE CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR BLESSING US ALL WITH THE WEALTH OF YOUR EXPERTISE. AND PROVING BEYOND DOUBTS THAT THOSE WOUNDS WERE REAL . Thank you so much for being such a great blessing to this thread

Its my job sir. We see worse quite often and have been asked to stand as medical witness in court a few times as first responders so we can tell reality from fake. Thank you sir and stay positive.

akintom:
Read your words again, if it makes any sense pls.

My words make perfect sense sir. Let me repeat them.

Would my declaration be accurate if i say that to you, God does not exist?

akintom:
Am reasonably aware;

* that your claims of existence of God, are irrational and unintelligent.

*consequently, the fictitious claims of this creation of your imagination (God), can't revitalize a clinically dead body or restore sanity to schizophrenia.

So would my declaration be accurate when i say that to you God does not exist? I am not talking about God being involved in autoresuscitation or healing a mentally ill individual because here i used the word "perhaps" and was not definite. Help me stay on track sir please.

Does God exist sir? Give me a specific answer

akintom:
It's now gang affair, in your own reckoning? You're at liberty to quote me, if you think you've got a meaningful gist.



Assuming your identity is genuine. Because it's not uncommon here, to have exhausted, stale and dubious Christian moniker, stray back under new moniker.

*as it is with most Christians here, they're infirmed of ability to either understand or infer intelligently from my writings.

*here you're, manifesting the same symptoms.

I said; is Christian religion, REASON or FAITH based?

But here, you're saying entirely different thing.




Is there any other meaningful thing about yourself, other than this your trauma job?

I'm not and never interested in what you do lady, and as you can read the caption of this page, it's about religion and how it's been interrogated.

How rational is your Christian religion?

In all you wrote for little old me here you somehow forgot an advice i just offered you a few minutes ago. I said to every coin there are 2 sides. All you just said is also applicable to you or is it not?

I am also not interested in what you do sir until you turn out to be another medical quack like dr catfishbilly then you would have my attention lol.

Why on earth would an atheist interrogate the same religion they do not believe in and also do not believe in its origin? How "Reasonable" are you really sir?

Mr Akintom let me throw this at you. Does God exist? Give me a definite answer sir

ilynem:
I can take that. Welcome to nairaland

Thanks sir. I am loving it. Hope it remains so especially with all the bad blood flying around. lol

ilynem:
Wow! Wish I could say "Please don't go", but you have lives to save, which is more important.

My work resumes on Sunday. Yes i work on Sundays because i need to but will be here after each 48hour shift. so its 2 days on and 2 days off so i promise to be here.

akintom:
*first, is your Christian religion REASON based or FAITH based?

* when most of you Christians, who are obviously ignorant of your religion, choose to discuss or debate it, on basis of REASON, how else can you be described?

* You see, most of us, sometimes choose to engage you, not because will expect that you folks will be rational or intelligent, but that those who need help, to outgrow religious beliefs, might find more evidence needed to walk away from religion.

sorry i have to butt in especially since ilynem is my latest online mate. Why do you think Christians differ in reasoning from Atheists? I am a Christian and i base my work on REASON so why do you generalize?

You say most of you (i believe you meant atheists) choose to engage Christians but you fail to see even through your reason that because Christians exist that is why you do too.

Do you not think that Christians also choose to engage you so those who need help to outgrow the silly nature of atheism might get the needed boost to run and not walk away?

To every coin there are 2 sides. Your statement is applicable to you as well. Let your "Reasoning" be used on yourself as well. Never stand on a pedestal and look down on others. Direct your "reasoning" to yourself first before doing same to others. When you do, you would realise how silly you look when you try to think you can reason for someone else even when you still depend on someone else to reason for you. There is a reason people huddle together in a cold. Think about it and you will discover that you are not special.

You are just a little pepper spice in the soup called humanity. Without you other spices may not come alive and cause deliciousness. Your role is to drive people to God and you are doing that just fine all over the world. A lot of people are dropping the atheist flag even here in the uk.

ilynem:
I really feel bad for him. It's not funny when you have your over inflated ego deflated the way you have done. Watch them gang up against you on other threads. They will even create threads specifically to discredit and mock you like they do with felixmore and KingEbukasblog. You will probably be the subject of their discussion through out today on their WhatsApp group. That's how childish these nairaland atheists are. Can't have a reasonable discussion with them without having them attack your person and your beliefs. Just remember to show them love whenever they come at you with their hate filled attacks. It will be difficult, but we have a duty to love them no matter what.
So CatfishBilly, what is your medical specialty sir?

I love everyone thats why i do what i do as an emergency medical specialist. We do not ask for beliefs or lack of them before rushing to the rescue and stabilizing victims of incidents and accidents. We have our fair share of atheists here and i am used to their outbursts and dodgy behaviour especially when confronted. They tend to try and turn everything into a verbal weapon against you. Say the wrong word or use the wrong term or stand the wrong way and they would focus on that like hawks but i love them regardless and all of them have one form of complex or the other so i understand their frailties.

I am loving this website and being on my week off (the longest ever) i will spend it here. i normally work 48hour shifts.

ilynem:
So much anger Trust me, I'm seated with my popcorn, watching her drag you on the floor.

Its most likely he has dreams of being a medical doctor and has been digging up and devouring online journals while aspiring to become one. I suspect he is yet to begin any medical course but thinks himself a fantasy medical doctor. He has been probably lying to everyone here that he is a doctor when i can see he isnt. If he had mentioned his medical specialty i would have ripped his lying quack fantasy medical doctor claims to shreds as i expose the charlatan and he knows this so has been avoiding giving me an answer to that question.

He is still free to prove me wrong by mentioning it. lol

Dr Quack Catfishbilly what is your medical specialty?

CatfishBilly:
I've moved past the point in medicine where people exchange words to the point where people drop references when making claims, something you know nothing about, now sit down in one corner and shut up.

How can you claim to have gone past any point in medicine when you clearly lack knowledge of the very basics of medicine? I think you should take your own advice.

CatfishBilly:
Obviously, we have different definition of trauma surgeon. A trauma surgeon is supposed to be well versed in a variety of surgery skillset, including abdominal, thoracic, vascular and some orthopedics we obviously don't agree on this.

Stop being a hypocritical quack sir. Being a quack is one thing but adding hypocrisy to it is even worse. Suddenly you developed comprehension problems yeah? Below is my quote again

Job Description
Trauma surgery encompasses treatment of the most severe, life-threatening, penetrating and blunt force injuries. A career as a trauma surgeon involves operating on critical, and often multiple injuries to different organ systems. Some of the commonly operated on organs include:

Pancreas
Spleen
Stomach
Colon

The term commonly means "not limited to".

Also read below
Trauma surgery is a surgical specialty that utilizes both operative and non-operative management to treat traumatic injuries, typically in an acute setting and normally focuses on the abdominal area along with any given 'Emergency' field they may be required to serve upon.


The word normally also means regularly or frequently but even your quack mind knows that frequently or regularly do not mean "always".

What is your medical specialty Dr Quack fish?

CatfishBilly:
And as for the gibberish you wrote up there that I quoted, I don't even know how to start addressing it.
Trauma Surgeons normally focus on the abdomen? What ridiculousness?

This your comment is a true example of your Quackery. Read the below

Job Description
Trauma surgery encompasses treatment of the most severe, life-threatening, penetrating and blunt force injuries. A career as a trauma surgeon involves operating on critical, and often multiple injuries to different organ systems. Some of the commonly operated on organs include:

Pancreas
Spleen
Stomach
Colon

Trauma surgeons also work with surgeons in other specialties to stabilize patients in critical condition, and usually work in the emergency care area of a hospital or medical center

The Pancreas, Spleen, colon, stomach are all in what region of your body?


Now put that beside my own quote below which exposed your quackery

Trauma surgery is a surgical specialty that utilizes both operative and non-operative management to treat traumatic injuries, typically in an acute setting and normally focuses on the abdominal area along with any given 'Emergency' field they may be required to serve upon.


Can your quack medical mind show me the difference?

You are a death Monger and no doctor. A self professed intercontinental doctor with 3 licenses from 3 countries and working on the 4th yet lacking even the most basic medical knowledge. Shame on you.

CatfishBilly:
Stop lying, Trauma Surgeons in the UK are regulated by The Royal College of Surgeons, you're a fuckkking ambulance rider and you're here claiming surgeon.
If I ask you the basics of post op nutrition, you'll start blabbing.
You're an ambulance rider, stick to it and allow real doctors do the work.
Fuckkking paramedic

You are such a dense quack dr fish. Trauma Surgeons and surgeons in general are regulated by the General Medical Council here in the UK. Aesthetic surgeons are licensed to handle trauma cases and all are part of the Royal college of surgeons but identified specifically by their specialties which BAAPS is to oversee cosmetic and aesthetic but the General Medical Council is in charge of ALL.

You want me to give you a thesis on post op Nutritional support? I suggest you run to your online journals for that since you know no better and wish to be taught by me.

Keep on yelling quack if you like but in the middle of all your yelling kindly drop your medical specialty for all to read Dr quack fish.

CatfishBilly:
I thought you said you're a trauma surgeon, you're now an aesthetic and plastic surgeon? Choose one naa, you're all over the place.
So there can't be more than one country in a Continent?

From Europe and Africa you now elaborated on 3 going to 4 countries which in itself is a lie especially when you repeatedly failed to mention your medical specialty. Say it and watch me expose you for the quack you are.

CatfishBilly:
I thought you said you're a trauma surgeon, you're now an aesthetic and plastic surgeon? Choose one naa, you're all over the place.

Plastic surgery is a surgical specialty involving the restoration, reconstruction, or alteration of the human body. It includes cosmetic or aesthetic surgery, reconstructive surgery, craniofacial surgery, hand surgery, microsurgery, and the treatment of burns.

Indeed you are a quack.

Trauma surgery is a surgical specialty that utilizes both operative and non-operative management to treat traumatic injuries, typically in an acute setting and normally focuses on the abdominal area along with any given 'Emergency' field they may be required to serve upon.

Spot the difference and also tell us your own version of Trauma and why trauma patients require reconstructive surgery aka Aesthetic surgery.

Quack Dr Fish.

CatfishBilly:
I'm saying FRCS, you're calling BAAPS and HCPC, see why I said you're not a surgeon? You don't even know the Fellowship body for surgeons and you say you're a surgeon in the UK? What are those though? Regulatory bodies for quacks?

I'm licensed​ to practice Medicine in 3 countries, presently working on my 4th, while you'll be stuck with ambulance rides.
Paramedic claiming surgeon.

You are such an entertaining quack. Alas you do not know that BAAPS is based in the Royal College of Surgeons. Lol such an ignorant bloke you are.

HCPC is the regulatory body for all healthcare professionals in the UK. Your online medical journals surely should have told you this as the quack you are.

So from practicing in 2 continents it's now licensed to practice in 3 countries yeah? Presently working on your 4th? Lol what an experienced quack you are.

Practice what exactly? That is what you still have refused to answer. What is your medical specialty?

Even if you were to apply for a medical job they would ask you the same question. So it's no secret. What is your medical specialty Dr quack fish?

CatfishBilly:
You're not a surgeon, you're not FRCS certified, stop claiming what you're not. You could go to prison for that.

Go tell that to BAAPS and HCPC. What is your medical specialty you quack?

Over here quacks cannot hide unlike where you are and claiming you are a Doctor. It's like my dog claiming it's a horse yet barking when it should be neighing.

CatfishBilly:
You're a trauma surgeon? Scrub into the theatre and they hand you a scalpel? Registered with the Royal College of Surgeons while you're still a paramedic?
Fear God with your lies naa.

So far I have been the only one who declared I am an emergency medical specialist with emphasis on traumatology which gives a license to be a traumatologist and a trauma surgeon which I have been for 9 years. 3 years In an emergency hospital and my desire to do more made me enrol for field service in EMT as a paramedic of which I have been one for 6 years.

What is your medical specialty Dr Quack fish?

CatfishBilly:
I said at least 5 types of brain stem reflexes, not process, where did you see process in my write up?
Do you have comprehension problems?
Ah, she has comprehension problems, no wonder you couldn't make it as a doctor and had to settle for a paramedic.
Bloody quack

Again you show your quackery to all.

You have no idea that a traumatologist (which i am) is better trained than an ordinary surgeon. We go the extra mile to get further training so as a matter of fact no ordinary doctor can measure up to a traumatologist. Your quackery didnt tell you this did it?

All medical doctors and surgeons start off with the same training in medical school. Specialization comes after graduation during their residency. Training in trauma surgery is a longer process than ER medicine. It's a significant commitment to become a trauma surgeon. It's usually a 5 or 6 year residency for general surgery, followed by a year or two of surgical critical care/trauma fellowship. Emergency medicine residency lasts three or four years, depending on the program. Although there is some overlap, as a trauma surgeon (traumatologist) i must remain up to date on the definitive management of various types of injuries, whereas emergency room physicians focus on the initial stabilization of the patient. So if i am above and more valued than an ordinary ER doctor how much more a doctor with no specialty like you.

Brain stem reflex is a function of its processes. Giving you a detailed lecture is futile because you are a certified quack. You still have not mentioned your medical specialty. Can i have it now?