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PoliticsRe: Repentant Buhari Fan Apologizes To Deziani Alison-Madueke by spiralwedge(m): 9:06pm On Apr 09, 2016
Myopic and ignorant Nigerians
Jobs/VacanciesRe: His Friends Called Him An Errand Boy, But Today His Errand Has Paid Off by spiralwedge(m): 9:55am On Apr 07, 2016
The turning point was not exactly the good customers service. It was the humility and willingness to GET BUSY faithfully even though pay was meager.
If you had stayed at home, nothing would have come. If you had wanted big pay, nothing would have come.
Do little jobs as if you are doing a million naira job. Dont allow little pay affects your attitude and professionalism.
RomanceRe: How My Fiancee Tricked Me, What Can I Do To Get Out Of This Mess. by spiralwedge(m): 7:27pm On Apr 04, 2016
firstking01:
Op, i think you 've already taken the right decision...let her go, if she comes back and meet you single and she's single too, then una fit start from where una been stop...



My thought embarassed
Same thought. Keyman0007
PoliticsRe: Oladipo Diya Celebrates His 72nd Birthday Today! by spiralwedge(m): 12:49am On Apr 04, 2016
Realman87:
Its amazing that whenever a topic is posted here, it transmutes into Igbo vs Yoruba e-fight. Instead of people to look at the topic and address the issues raised by condenming or priasing, as the case may be; they go after themselves insulting tribes in an attempt to defend their own. This is the height of backwardness and narrow-mindedness and it explains why Nigeria is still Backward. A big shame to all those who operate on this level.
Ive been following your posts but you turned out to be cunning and deluded. All of your posts derailed the topic of this thread.

You are to wish the retired general a happy birthday or move on to other threads, but all your topics only analysed how you think in your small mind the retired general was an embarrassment. And yet you could put up the rhetorics above? Shame
PoliticsRe: Oladipo Diya Celebrates His 72nd Birthday Today! by spiralwedge(m): 12:35am On Apr 04, 2016
garfield16:
I repeat, Omo ale ni e, to those who do not understand, it means you are a bastard yoruba child because what you and your hero Diya are displaying are not yoruba values.

A man participated in a coup plot, sorry I meant a soldier participated in a coup plot and was caught. when you were plotting coup, you did not know that there are only 2 outcomes? either you succeed or you die? and when you fail you cannot take the consequences of failure like a man, like a soldier, like a man of honoue? A soldier, a chief of defense staff, a chief of general staff, a defacto vice president!! abeg go and get some home training!!
You are too gullible for my liking.

How did you know he planned a coup? Because Abacha said so? Smh for u.

Why did they try to bomb him several times before they eventually roped him in a setup coup?

Oo mo bi o se nlo? Like someone rightly said, bloody civilian
TravelRe: Ada Onyilokwu Nigerian, Dies In London (photo) by spiralwedge(m): 8:39pm On Apr 02, 2016
British passport is valid for 10years. Nigerian is just for 5 years
CultureRe: Benin Bronze Cockerel Causing Debate Between England & Nigeria (PHOTO) by spiralwedge(m):
dhardline:
Okukor means chicken in Igbo language.What a coincidence.
The same meaning in Yoruba. But please and please, it is a Benin sculpture. No need of bringing tribal intrigues on this matter.

Cc: themonk
Nairaland GeneralRe: An Act Of Kindness Or Foolishness? by spiralwedge(m): 8:31pm On Mar 27, 2016
Neverquit:
grin grin
Egungun festival = Halloween New yam festival = Thanksgiving
grin
grin grin grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: An Act Of Kindness Or Foolishness? by spiralwedge(m): 8:57am On Mar 27, 2016
Neverquit:
You typed exactly what I was thinking (minus the stupid part).
The pic on your profile rather made me laugh hard grin grin grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: An Act Of Kindness Or Foolishness? by spiralwedge(m): 10:23pm On Mar 26, 2016
gbaskiboy:
Same also happened to me, a female friend gave me her phone to use since am not using browsing phone, few days later it was removed from my pocket by pickpocket I was dumbfounded totally on how to explain to the lady on how I lost the phone. I summon courage and explained to her, she told me never to worry about the phone and I should forget it. Though was grateful for her act of kindness. But each time I see this lady I felt I as if I played on her intelligence. God bears me witness
If I were in your shoes or in the op's pastor's shoes, I will never have peace unless I buy back a new phone, regardless whatever the person says.

I am especially disappointed in the pastor, because upon loosing the phone he still collected his phone back. He is a fake pastor.

Finally, the op is stupid for giving him his phone back despite losing op's.
CelebritiesRe: Seyi Shay Steps Out In Red (photos) by spiralwedge(m): 5:52am On Mar 25, 2016
Chilobabe:
She is lovely, though I dont know her.
Christianity EtcRe: Redeemed Church Cleaned My Entire Street!! by spiralwedge(m):
Every where o
PoliticsRe: ChukwuEmeka Woke Arrested For Dakuku's Assassination Attempt by spiralwedge(m): 10:03pm On Mar 20, 2016
State of emergency should be declared in Rivers state. Shame!
PoliticsRe: Rivers Rerun: Heavy Military Presence In Port Harcourt -VANGUARD by spiralwedge(m): 10:53am On Mar 19, 2016
Rivers of blood
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 12:59pm On Mar 13, 2016
ycat:
That's the fact, it wasn't a rumor, the Sagamu part is the new one we never heard of.

Of course, there's always the option of Sagamu remaining in Ogun state like a lot of people think. Sagamu is better off in ogun state really, it's closer to Lagos and Abeokuta, and has all the advantages already.

Ijebu ode is the biggest in ogun just after Abeokuta and there's nothing wrong in it if Sagamu is subservient, that is if they want to be part of ijebu state.

Ijebu is the only province that has not become a state, some former provinces have even had 2 states created out of them.
There's a lot of ignorance and sentiments in your posts. Perhaps you are still a kid, but of course i respect your opinion.

Take care. Im out.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 12:51pm On Mar 13, 2016
ATERI:
You only answered one of three questions.
I will tell you categorically that Makun does not belong to any other town or city in Ogun State but Sagamu, so next time you are writing don`t say what you don`t know. The dishonesty in your piece is that you don`t want to admit that Awujale would not allow a state in Ijebu/Remo zone unless the capital is Ijebu Ode. Anybody that follows the politics of that area would tell you this, so it`s nothing special
You are contradicting yourself by making any reference to Awo in this issue. If Awo was the factor in 75/76 was he still the factor during Abacha/Diya era? Are you telling me that Diya would be in power, create an Ijebu State and allow Awujale to have his wish of having the capital located in Ijebu-Ode when Diya himself was born in the vicinity ( Odogbolu), is that what you are saying?
Once Irikefe recommended Sagamu as the best location for the capital of Ogun State in the mid 70s, Obasanjo would never have been in a position to change that recommenrdation if Awujale had not raised any objection. The balance of power in Yorubaland between Obasanjo and Awo was slightly similar to the balance of power in Igboland between Ojukwu and Azikwe. Awo and his people kept Obasanjo on his toes on all issues and Obasanjo did the same to them, so the possibility of Obasanjo going against what a supreme court judge recommended was zero. But once Awujale opposed it, Obasanjo was in a wonderful position to use his status as a second in command initially. The politics under Diya/Abacha was different. Abacha didn`t want Diya to become more powerful and more loved by his people, so any opposition from Awujale would be welcome by Abacha, since that meant that Awujale and Abacha would become closer at the expense of Diya. So the only constant here is the Awujale, therefore I don`t know why you could find it unacceptable that he played this negative role twice.Ok listen to this: a couple of months ago the dubious Obasanjo now said he would support Ijebu State but only if the capital would be in Awo`s town in Ikenne, please go and find out what your Awujale said to that, so that you would not be surprised when he plays the role thrice. But unfortunately for Awujale now, the balance of power is no more in his favour, he may have to swallow his pride and opposition very soon, because, for the first time in the history of Nigeria, someone from Remo area of Ogun State is the vice-president in a democracy.
You said the answer to all my questions is that Obasanjo made Abeokuta the capital of Ogun State to spite Awo. This is non-sense because I told you that Awo`s parents were both from Abeokuta and Ikenne. His mum was from Ikenne and his dad was from Abeokuta, then how could location of state capital in his dad`s town spite him bro?
No, I do not deny Awujale's role during the Abacha/Diya's time. But I do for Muritala/Obj's time. I am not trying to exonerate him.

Awujale was not the only monarch lobbying for the capital city in his domain. There were several others. So, what i am not accepting is that your Awujale was the sole cause of making Abeokuta the capital city.

Ogun state was created in 1976, Shagari vs Awo presidential campaign kicked off in 1978. Common. What are we talking about? OGUN - Abeokuta was all about OBJ vs. Awo.

Im ending the discussion here, we are already going back and forth on this. Thanks for your time.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 12:16pm On Mar 13, 2016
ycat:
The word was, Diya wanted to make Odogbolu the capital, and that was what drew objection from Awujale. Sagamu was never a contender. Awujale has since be pushing for ijebu state alone with the capital in Ijebu ode. And if it is created it's going to be in Ijebu ode. Ikenne is Remo so is Sagamu, so what's their problem with Ijebu state? If Ikenne and Sagamu want a state, they will have to go and ask for it and not try to block Ijebu state.
That's naive. That's a mere rumour.

If Diya wanted to make Odogbolu the capital what stopped him, being a military deputy head of state? And if Abacha, his oga, did not want Odogbolu, what stopped him for placing it in IjebuOde? Who would question or stop him? He was a maximum military dictator.

Now, I said naive because you dont know or not considerate of the socio-political implications. If Ijebu state was created, two out of the major old divisions would be contained... Remo and Ijebu. So tell me, does it make sense to call the new state and also have the capital in IjebuOde? Doesn't it mean the Remos would be minority or subservient in the new state? The Remos are smart and the Ijebus are arrogant. It is better for the Remos to remain in this present arrangement called Ogun state where they stand tall with the other 3 old divisions than to be political nonentities in your one-sided Ijebu State.

One thing is sure, Ijebu State may never materialise, because of the Ijebus' arrogance. However, if it does it is either Remos are excluded or Ijebus and Remos share the political relevance of both the name and the capital city as it is done elsewhere. Eg. ONDO - Akure, OYO - Ibadan etc.

Once again, the odogbolu story was a rumour.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 9:06pm On Mar 12, 2016
ATERI:
I`m not going to allow you to get away with your deliberate dishonesty, so I have three questions for you.
Since you have accepted that Irikefe Panel recommended Sagamu as Ogun State Capital, can you tell me the hearsay in my piece?
Two, which other individual or traditional ruler in Ogun State lobbied to take away the capital from Sagamu, since you said everybody lobbied at that time? The last question is for you to tell me where Makun belongs in the geography of Ogun State, since you said is not exactly Sagamu
Please, answer those questions so that we can move amicably forward. Thanks
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There's no dishonesty or any insinuation in all my postings.

The summarised answer to all your questions is that Obj made Abeokuta the capital of Ogun state to spite Awo.

To single out one monarch on the struggle/lobby is the hearsay. And like i said earlier, it is the same version of your hearsay I heard as the cause of loss of Ijebu state during Abacha/Diya regime.

How can the same story be the same reason for two different problems of two different times at different dispensations?

Written history is what I required from you, nothing else! Hearsays distort history.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 1:06pm On Mar 12, 2016
ATERI:
Muritala Mohammed set up the Irikefe Panel on State Creation at a time Obasanjo was his second in command, so it was the Irikefe Panel that made that recommendation, you can get hold of his Report and read it yourself. Of course, Muritala was assassinated later making it possible for Obasanjo to take over. So you are the type that would say that until Babangida write about June 12, you can`t believe that an election was annulled, right? Bye
Irikefe report did not mention any of the hearsays in your original posts. And the Benin-Sagamu Interchange (Makun) (Not exactly Sagamu) was proposed as the capital. The report mentions the old divisions in the state and Remo and Egbado were mentioned as divisions created by Colonial Master, apart from Egba and Ijebu . It is normal for all monarchs to lobbied to win development to their domain.
Military regimes usually dont give a damn what a monarch thinks much as long as that is what they want. They can even sack such monarch.
So I insist placing the capital in Abeokuta, Obj intentionally spited Awo and reduce local influence. Obj himself has said and written that Awo was over-ambitious and needed to tamed. And that he did with all his military might. Even the handing over to Shagari was controversial.

Concerning June 12, there are documented publications and multimedia. I only wanted you to sift hearsay from factual history.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 10:01pm On Mar 11, 2016
ATERI:
Everything I typed above is factual and indisputable, but feel free to describe it as hearsay and rumour
Its ok. Did anyone write about this? Or any published interview where people concerned stated this? Obasanjo would have written it about it if it was true. Especially in his book, Not My Will, where he wrote in details tales about the happenings during his military rule.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 9:44pm On Mar 11, 2016
ATERI:
Ogun State was created in 1976 during which Obasanjo- also from Abeokuta area of Ogun State- was Nigeria`s Military Head of State. The Panel that was set up to recommend where the capital of Ogun State should be located recommended Sagamu as the best place for the capital. Sagamu is nearer Ijebu Ode than Abeokuta. What happened next was that the Awujale of Ijebuland made it clear that Sagamu would become Ogun State capital over his dead body. Awujale`s problem with Sagamu was that the Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo had not been given Awujale enough respect, that was the opportunity that Obasanjo seized to take the capital of Ogun State to Abeokuta. So the crying Awujale today only has himself to blame because it`s the prestige of state capital that is making Alake more popular than him. If Awujale had not objected the location of the capital a stone`s throw from Ijebu-Ode, Obasanjo would have accepted it as recommended. Awo had to be indifferent because one of his parents was from Abeokuta while the other was from Ikenne, not very far from Sagamu.
In fact, each time I look at what happened in this area around that time, I become convinced that Nigeria`s problem is deeper than some tribalists tend to portray it. Before this location tussle about Sagamu, Akarigbo was called Akarigbo of Ijebu Remo. As a result of what happened between them, the people of Sagamu and Ijebu Remo removed Ijebu from their title and call their Oba Akarigbo of Remoland and it has remained so till today
My brother abi na sister, this is a mere hearsay.

As a matter of fact, this is exactly what i heard when Abacha/Diya wanted to create Ijebu State in the 90s. Only that it was a rivalry between Sagamu and IjebuOde. Ijebu state was supposed to be announced in that broadcast either with Ekiti or instead of.

Concerning Ogun state creation, history has it that Obj hates Awo's presidential ambitions, (Obj doesn't hide this in his books or interviews) and destabilising Awo's base with newly introduced states was Obj's strategy. The Awujale said this sometimes along this line this year during Ogun state's 40th anniversary celebration.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 6:57pm On Mar 11, 2016
oluwolexy:
Is on record and properly documented that Ijebus defeated the Egbas in a war that made them relocated to their present location in Abeokuta. It was Ibadan soldiers that Sodeke and his army defeated during invasion of their.

No Ijebu town were ever conquered till date, I stand to be corrected.
You are absolutely right. Ijebus were/are freeborn, they captured, sold and were middlemen to slave merchants. The Ijebus did not allow the whites passage hinderland to other parts of Yorubaland as Ijebuland surrounds Lagos. But the white colonialists mobilised regents and fought the Ijebus near Epe and won and IjebuOde was invaded. The then Awujale was sacked too. And Ijebus industrious monopoly of slavery middlemenship was ended.

The only other route to the other parts of Yorubaland was through Badagry to Abeokuta via ogun river. And it was risky because of the consistent ambush by the Aworis on that route.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 6:42pm On Mar 11, 2016
ATERI:
I`m not a fan of Obasanjo, but can you tell the whole story fairly?
I have given you a hint, you can now read up history by yourself.
History has no fan of no one, and truth is unfair to nobody.
PoliticsRe: Riot At Ikeja-Along Area Of Lagos-Abeokuta Expressway by spiralwedge(m): 6:04pm On Mar 11, 2016
Habakus:
Of a truth,Jimi Agbaje would have been a far better option than Ambode... Fashola's shoes seem way bigger than Ambode's tiny inexperienced shy legs.
Ambode is doing just fine. He is even bolder than Fashola. So, keep your analysis.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 11:57am On Mar 11, 2016
andersonbaba:
The only reason Alake is more popular is because Abeokuta is the capital of Ogun state. therefore, it is more developed than other areas like ijebu ode
That was OBJ's grand plan.
He did that to spite Awo. The Awujale rightly placed the Alake.
CultureRe: Alake Is A Junior King In Yorubaland – Awujale by spiralwedge(m): 11:54am On Mar 11, 2016
See finishing.

The awujale is the only Yoruba monarch that has my utmost respect. All others are just disgusting. The awujale was the only monarch that did not take GEJ's money. And he is a very honest custodian of history, carries himself with decorum and respect. And he also has written books that will very good authorities in history, especially as others are always distorting history for selfish gains and superiority race , thereby causing disunity and progress.

Back to topic, he is very correct by placing the Alake where he belongs. Please read The History of Abeokuta by Ajisafe.. Written about 70years ago.
PoliticsRe: Ekiti Lawmakers Storm NASS Over DSS Invasion by spiralwedge(m): 9:30pm On Mar 10, 2016
OMG, they went to the wrong place. DSS office is where they supposed to go to.
Confused.
TravelRe: UK Officials Manhandle A Nigerian Today by spiralwedge(m): 6:48pm On Mar 10, 2016
NaijaSecForce:
What did he do before we comment?
He didn't buy train ticket. Usually you pay a fine and if you don't have the fine on the spot, they get your details and send you a bill and add you to transport law offenders. They can also sue you to a special court. If you are a foreigner, you can be deported especially if you have issues with your papers.
CelebritiesRe: Olajumoke Stuns In New Close Up Pix by spiralwedge(m): 8:27pm On Mar 08, 2016
Tpave:
The power of makeup. See a bread seller just suddenly become a celebrity. There is nothing beyond this God.
There's no need to remind us who she was. We all know. What matters is who she is.
PoliticsRe: Yoruba And Hausa Fight In Mile 12 Lagos (Graphic Photos) by spiralwedge(m): 9:21pm On Mar 03, 2016
Something tells me this is nothing compared to any clash that may happen between ipob and Lagosians in the nearest future except everyone behaves themselves.
Please lets always give peace a chance and respect our hosts and be law-abiding.
RomanceRe: I Loved Him, He Broke My Heart, And I Have Been Cursing Him Deep. by spiralwedge(m): 4:38pm On Mar 03, 2016
Moppsys, even if he doesn't find true love with another woman, how is that your business? How does that stop him from having children and having a life?

To me, you are not a wife material. Invading privacy, setting him up and now cursing... Common, you are better off divorced as you are.

I pity the man that would fall into your trap.
CelebritiesRe: We Must Celebrate Ayodele Before Olajumoke - OAP Freeze by spiralwedge(m): 1:55pm On Feb 28, 2016
OAP Freeze should have asked why he himself is being celebrated more than Ayodele?

I am going to that his Instalgram to blast him. grin

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