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openmine:
Sure it does...i dont see any reason why it sud be so difficult for U....


Just provide scriptures and corresponding scriptures.....No long story or epistle!



U haven't even started and U are going...Is that how U prove Ur points?

I've already advise you. If you can't deal with those truths as already presented, then sorry, I can't indulge you.

I have seen your long, distorted truths of a thread against the Law, how it has been abolished. Of course, it is simply one of those pitiable arguments that one can't help but shake the head in utter bewilderment.

So you see, I know you're not a true seeker but one looking for blind arguments. That is what I wouldn't do. You can find some other person.

openmine:
Mr splinz...Let me make it simpler for U to comprehend...Am not here to fight or challenge Ur arguments
All am asking is that U bring Up scriptures to back Ur claims....
We are all here to learn....Having the mindset of one who is all knowing isnt going to help U grow spiritually....and besides,is that how U intend to teach or lead People to christ by being abusive and derogatory?

Are you kidding me... you mean my claims are without Scriptural proofs, and you said you've seen my arguments?

And who's using derogatory words on you

openmine:

Am not here for arguments Mr splinz...Just show me the scriptures....If U cant then it obvious U dont even trust the scriptures....Or U are a cherry picker...simple!


Totally Unnecessary.....Just give out scriptures....Or is this how U will prove U are christ-like?


I have read some before....Unfortunately,Ur over labored intro defeated its purpose....Like i said bring Up scriptures to buttress Ur points:Some laws were left out and some were abolished!
Or have U suddenly forgotten them

I see. Will quoting these Scriptures again suddenly make you see the truth and accept them

As far as I'm concerned, I've thoroughly dealt with this topic and proved it convincingly to those able to discern the truths, that the Ten Commandments called "holy, righteous and good" stands forever.

So I am done here. I can only respond to you if you're able to tackle my already submitted arguments. Of course, doing so sincerely.

openmine:
With All due respect Mr splinz,Its a simple and direct question....It would be morally right for U to provide scriptures to show that some laws were abolished while some were left out ...failure to provide such scriptures will only make U sound like a cherry-picker!
And Yes i have gone through the entire thread and am yet to see Where U showed scriptures how SOME LAWS stayed while abolishing some....Please do so..No long epistle..Just scriptures...Thanks in advance!

If after going through my arguments and you couldn't find all the Scriptures you need and sets of laws abolished, then it is either you're being mischievous or lacking comprehensive skills.

If it's the former, then sorry, I'm not cut out for useless wrangling. And if it's the latter, please go through the thread one more time.

PS: Learn to read long epistles, it is good for your soul.

dingbang:
People should stop this madness of creating statues of what is in heaven and then trying to worship it as if it is a living thing.... Idolatory is a grave sin

Watch and see how some mischievous elements will ask you such dumb questions like: "Don't you have pictures in your house?" "Don't you kneel down beside your bed to pray?" etc.

And you begin to wonder. If you have your picture at home, do you put that picture in front of you, kneel down and begin to pray : O dingbang, pray for me sinner?'. Or 'O my grandfather, pray for us sinners?' Or you kneel beside your bed and pray: 'O bed, have mercy on me?'

Crazy!

luvmijeje:
Hmmmmm Let me see if I get you right.. .. .. If I Love, Sins won't come into my life. But how do I walk in love?

To walk in love is to walk according to the commandments of God, for love is the fulfilling of the law (Romans 13:10, 1 John 5:3).

The Bible is very clear on it's seventh day weekly worship of God, called the Sabbath. But we see that mainstream Christians do not obey this commandment. In fact, in place of the Sabbath, they keep and observed what the Bible called the "traditions of men" (Mark 7:8 ), in this case, Sunday observance. Of all the Law, the Sabbath law is the most transgressed of them all. But then, this is no surprise at all, the reason is well known.

So lets see just a brief history of how the Sunday worship came to be- who authorized it.


Some Techniques Used to Legitimize Sunday—A Case in Point

There was a particular meeting between Polycarp, the leader of the true Church of God at the onset of the Smyrna Era, and the Bishop of Rome, regarding the Roman church’s erroneous actions of changing the time of the Passover observance to a Sunday. The tactics that the counterfeit movement (To learn more about the counterfeit movement, clink on this link: https://www.nairaland.com/3558502/true-founder-history-catholic-church) had used to establish precedent were scandalous and unscrupulous, as the following account reveals. We pick up this account after the above-mentioned meeting.

After Polycarp had left the meeting, an unusual letter appeared. This letter is considered by most scholars to have been a deliberate forgery: “Pope Pius, who lived about 147, had made a decree, that the annual solemnity of the Pasch [this Greek word is derived from the Hebrew word pesach] should be kept on the Lord’s day [Sunday] and in confirmation of this he pretended, that Hermes [Hermas] his brother, who was then an eminent teacher among them, had received instruction from an angel, who commanded that all men should keep the Pasch on the Lord’s day” (Antiquities of the Christian Church, Joseph Bingham, pp. 1148-1149).

“One of the letters forged in the name of Pius, where one Hermas [Hermes] is mentioned as the author; and it is stated that in his book a commandment was given through an angel to observe the Passover on a Sunday” (Apostolical Fathers, James Donaldson, p. 324). If this letter was invented after Polycarp’s time in an effort to lend weight to the position of Anicetus, then it was a deliberate forgery. Otherwise, Pius himself was the author of this deceptive letter. Pius died just before the visit of Polycarp to Rome.

Suppose this incident was not a forgery (notwithstanding, most scholars readily acknowledge that it was) and, in fact, did happen. Suppose Hermes or Pope Pius (or Anicetus) was not lying this time around, and that Hermes did receive instructions from an angel to change the observance of a time that God had established. Would this have opened the door to legitimize those instructions from the “angel,” in God’s view? We must merely look in Galatians 1:8 to establish whether instructions from an angel carry precedence over God’s instructions through His apostles or prophets: “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”

The account above was chosen to illustrate the Roman Catholics’ underhanded schemes in adopting their hybrid doctrines. They claimed the power to supersede and change the laws of God when deemed necessary. (See Daniel 7:25).

Early Catholic View of the Sabbath

Now for some statements from some of the original architects of Catholic thought, concerning the Sabbath. Justin Martyr’s position exposes their true feelings and ignorance. Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi skillfully condenses the philosophy of Justin Martyr in the following summary statement on page 186 of his book, From Sabbath to Sunday: “The Sabbath for Justin is a temporary ordinance, derived from Moses, which God did not intend to be kept literally, for He Himself ‘does not stop controlling the movement of the universe on that day.’ He imposed it solely on the Jews as ‘a mark to single them out for punishment they so well deserved for their infidelities.’” Justin Martyr’s rank anti-Semitism would almost be humorous, were it not for the deadly persecution, to both Jews and true Christians, that it led to.

The next viewpoint is that of Tertullian (made in AD 200), which is also telling: “…if for these and other such rules [for Sunday observance] you insist upon having positive scriptural injunction, you will find none. Tradition will be held forth to you as the originator of them—custom as their strengthener and faith as their preserver…” (De Corona, ch. 4).

In view of the above quote, it would be appropriate to quote one 20th century Roman Catholic theologian, Cardinal Gibbons, from Faith of Our Fathers, p. 89, 1917 edition:

“A rule of faith, or a competent guide to heaven, must be able to instruct all the truths necessary for salvation. Now the Scriptures alone do not contain all the truths which a Christian is bound to believe, nor do they explicitly enjoin all the duties which he is obliged to practice. Not to mention other examples, is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most promising of our sacred duties? But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify”.

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There you have it. Such guts and nauseating arrogance oozing from puny men. Isn't it extreme foolishness to set aside God's own commands in place of human inventions, and then somehow expects the supreme Being to concur? Ridiculous!

Walai... your flend is veli veli kworupp!

Why da hell would he support malpractice for his girlfriend? Mbok, tell him to save us from another olodo, inugo?

Very well then. May the wind of APC's change blow you safely home, as you exit.
Bye.

Does it matter at all for Christians to consider your Qur'an We have our Bible you know, and in it is contained all that is needed to instruct us in all righteousness.

So, there's no need for this unnecessary solicitation. Read your Qur'an and I'd read my Bible.

Not at all. It means you have a spare pot of egusi soup somewhere to eat, while you prepare edikangikong soup.