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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:16pm On Aug 31, 2023
raumdeuter:
There are countries who have left CFA, have they been invaded? There are non French colonies who voluntarily opted to be part of CFA
Brother, isn't Niger trying to pull out? Why is France asking Nigeria to invade them?

On one hand you ask them to leave then ignore the other hand holding them down.

Don't worry, these countries are already pushing to leave FrancAfrique
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:12pm On Aug 31, 2023
raumdeuter:
Is France forcing them to stay in CFA? Some countries have left and some CHOSE to stay
Yes. And that's what we are against. Those who left had to go through military coup to do so. Why?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:10pm On Aug 31, 2023
OasisX:
grin

......hence Putin and Xinjiang ain't Presidents of their respective Countries?!
These are not practicing democracy.

Like what Mone.. said, do what's constitutional. If the constitution allows for life tenure no problem as long as the poeple are OK with it.

As for Africa right now, based on where we are as a developing continent, no leader should last more than two tenures.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:07pm On Aug 31, 2023
Roland17:
If that is what you got then that’s you. All we are saying is, HOLD YOUR CRIMINAL LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ROT AFRICA IS ENDURING.

Stop blaming the West at your convenience for the mess in Africa.

FOR ONCE! Let us hold ourselves and own our failures as a continent. Being Pan African doesn’t translate into blaming the West for every little thing!
If anything, it means taking ownership of your failures and finding ways to address them locally.
Your point is noted and appreciated. But we are not just fighting our corrupt leaders. That's the simple part. We are also fighting those who use them. It's not just the dog it's also its master.

The people of Niger have dealt with a corrupt leader but they now have to fight his master.

Niger ousted their corrupt leader but then Kamala Harris calls Tinubu (in disguise as ECOWAS) and asks him to invade Niger to restore the corruption (in disguise as restoring democracy).

Niger has asked the French diplomatic missions to leave, why are they foot-dragging like it's their fatherland?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:22pm On Aug 31, 2023
OasisX:
grin

.....Benjamin Netanyahu was first elected prime minister of Israel in 1996 and left the Office in 1999 following his defeat to Ehud Barak.

He returned again as prime minister in 2009 and lost the office to oppositions in 2021 after 5 terms [12yrs] in Office.

Guess what? He is back in power again from 2022 till God knows when. Democracy right?!

Angela Merkel was Germany Chancellor from 2005 to 2021..... how many years bro? Ain't they practicing Democracy in Germany?!
There is a very big difference both technically and ideologically between a president and a prime minister/chancellor.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:20pm On Aug 31, 2023
Roland17:
You both think me and Ibime, who deserves a serious shout I should add did not prepare for this ridiculous narrative? You cats think we or I should say I take positions without thoroughly researching?

If you read every bit of what Ibime has documented thus far, I hope you can trash that rubbish narrative. I had my own rebuttal but Ibime has done more than enough for anyone to understand the truth.
I guess you are calling for a comprehensive revolution. undecided

Like do away with all White people's stuff if you think they are bad and do not mean well. If I were in your shoes I would also give that a serious thought before saying so.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:16pm On Aug 31, 2023
GloriousGbola:
the irony is that for all the talk, most of you are self colonized - what is this entire board about if not EURPOEAN football

a sport created by the brutal colonisers?

all these pan africanists standing up to the west - are they even supporting local african leagues?
You will only invite A001 to begin his lecture on how stupid we all are.

The point is not whether we watch European football more than African football. The question is if we are forced to watch it against our wishes.

Okpa's reply say it all, our relationship with the West should be symbiotic not parasitic. The way it is now is parasitic. Simple.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:10pm On Aug 31, 2023
Ibime:
The YOU is Mali who have kicked out France over 2 years ago and still continuing to use their CFA which is keeping them in bondage.

Stop talking about Thomas Sankara and other ancient of days. Mali current Government for the last 2 years have no dealings with France and are not controlled from France. They should exit CFA if it sure them say CFA na wickedness.

BFaso is now one year free of France influence. I don't see their central bank preparing to go it solo with their own currency

Niger expel France ambassador but won't dare think about expelling their CFA.

Everybody hate France but love their CFA. Shey na jazz CFA dey use?
Ok.

I see that you are more in a hurry than myself.

No qualms.

It will be a process, Rome wasn't built in a day. France imposed their currency on Francafrique, but it will take a well thought out process to break free.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 2:02pm On Aug 31, 2023
Jodera:
And I said that first bolded is a lie.

How would you say Saka was singlehandedly impacting games for arsenal.

Was it not still here that guys claimed that it was because of Saliba's injury that we started faltering?

Saka was very very important and impactful for Arsenal last season, Same way Odegaard was important and impactful, same way Saliba was important and impactful.
And these are our top three players

No dey use because of sentiments claim that Saka was singlehandedly impacting arsenal's game.

And as for the 2nd bolded?
What is there to prove that it's not clear for everyone to see.

But I'll just prove it to you to just clear your doubt

1. He won all the Awards for Man City above all the players you felt impacted more than him(Best player, young best player) in constrast, Saka didn't even win Arsenal's best player sef cos that went to Odegaard.

2.. He was Man City highest goalscorer with 36 goals. The 2nd person following him is Foden with 11goals. Give Foden three times that goals and he'll still be short of Haaland but Yeah Haaland wasn't that impactful to Man City.
And oh, lest I forget, Saka is not even arsenal's highest goalscorer.

3. Let's go to assist too. Haaland is top 3 highest assist maker in Man City as a striker (behind Debruyne and Mahrez). To put it more clearly, Mahrez was ahead of Haaland with JUST 2 assists (10 to 8 respectively). But yeah he wasn't impactful to their cause. The Bernardo, Foden, Gundogan and all that were impactful didn't top less-impactful Haaland in any metric and much more this metric oo
For Arsenal it was Saka.


4. The Oga pata pata of them all is that Haaland used all these Metric to win League which Saka unfortunately didn't. Yet you felt it was Bernardo 9g/a, Gundogan 12g/a that was more Impactful than someone's 48g/a. Add both of their g/a together and multiply it by two and it won't still reach Haaland's g/a.



But yeah Spy is Objective while Jod.era is Subjective.

I didn't know that being objective is the new sentiment cheesy
You still didn't get it. I guess you probably didn't complete reading my post before being pushed be the urge to reply it. smiley

If you did, you will understand that I have never said Haaland is more deserving or Saka is more deserving. I said both are deserving and that if the awards were swapped, the reaction would not be too different from what ii is now.

I gave my reasons that Haaland won the league with his contributions and Saka finished second but carried more responsibilities between their respective clubs.

When I said impacted games off course its not all the games. When I say singlehandedly I mean that there were more games Arsenal had to depend on Saka to win than there are games City had to depend on Haaland to win.

Let's put it this way, if Arsenal were looking for a win our hope would be on Saka. If City were looking for a win, they won't look up to Haaland the way Arsenal looks up to Saka. In fact they would look up to KDB or Gundogan or Silva first before Haaland comes into their picture. Haaland was basically an end point material, not the main one. Haaland is like the last man that completes the relay after others have helped built the lead. Yes he is important but not as important as Saka is to Arsenal that came second. You only need to look at all the finals City played in last season to know this including their Community Shield against us In which he was almost nonexistent.

Arsenal depend more on Saka than City depends on Haaland and City won the league while Arsenal came second. Hence, Haaland takes the main award while Saka takes the other one. What's hard to accept here?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 8:07am On Aug 31, 2023
Ibime:
It's simple. BFaso, Mali and co should float their own currency and escape the French Colonial tax. Mali left in 1962 and begged to return in 1984. Nobody is holding them. Lies can travel round the world but facts are stubborn.

Blame France, blame France, yet you don't want to leave CFA and go your own way because you know how CFA is subsidising you.
Who are the 'you' ? Are they the Stooges of France or the people of West Africa in general? Because it is those who were installed by France since independence that have been holding the country down for France.

So it's not like the people want to remain subservient to France but France through using fellow Africans have forced the people to remain so. It is for this reason that we have the likes of late Thomas Sankara, and living Julius Malema etc.
Politics › Re: This Is The Reason Why The US Is Supporting Tinubu Over Obi by Spy360(m): 5:41am On Aug 31, 2023
BAT is doing well and if given a chance will do better.

You see this kind of statements, know that propaganda has started.

Going through this page alone, I can pick out like 4 of them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:21am On Aug 31, 2023
Griffon:
CFA Franc was at some point perceived to be a tool for the French neocolonial subjugation over 8 of her West African and 6 Central African colonies.

14 of these colonies who used CFA Francs were required to store 50% of their currency reserves with the Banque de France, and the currencies were attached to the euro.

Depending on the narrative you choose to believe, the French explained that this arrangement was aimed at shielding those colonies that issued their own currencies from the horrible effects of price inflation. To these colonies, however, it was believed to be a “neocolonial tax”, a brake on economic growth and a spit on their sovereignties.

No be today this thing play out.
I don't know how Ibime and Roland17 will say they are not aware of this.

Also that any leader who attempts to deviate from this is forced out of power either through coup or rigged election. It happened in BFaso and Ivory Coast. If they cannot see how France influence politics in Africa by empowering their stooges through economic, political and military means then I wonder.

If they tell me its still Africans that allow themselves to be used then I will understand. But if they say such influence never exist, then I wonder.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:08am On Aug 31, 2023
Ibime:
Dem go dey alright las las

Do anything wrong in Africa, and once you blame the West you go dey alright

MC Oluomo beat Mama Chinedu, blame West for not intervening

Gbagbo lose war and refuse to leave, causing a civil war, blame West for intervening

Blame West for taking 8 years to arrest Dieziani, blame same West for not arresting other politicians you provided no evidence against

West is looking like Akon right now
Justify why the West should not be accused of interfering in African politics after they invaded Ivory Coast and arrested Gbagbo for refusing to vacate office.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:05am On Aug 31, 2023
raumdeuter:
Was that not because Gbagbo lost an election and refused to leave? So the West is also to blame for removing a man who lost an election and refused to leave

Abi what is your own recollection? Who won the eleciton between Gbagbo and Quatarra and what led to Gbagbos ouster
You asked a question, what is the business of the West? -about who lost an election in Africa and refused to leave.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:02am On Aug 31, 2023
raumdeuter:
And if the election in Cameroun is not free and fair what is the business of the West? Will they still be the ones to conduct elections for you
If the West have no business then why did France ask to invade Niger? Why does France keep a military base in Africa? Why are the Niger people and other Francophone countries pointing fingers at France?

Tell me how the West has no business in Africa.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:58am On Aug 31, 2023
Jodera:
Those two are big lies.

Abeg, Saka na our boy, no just do this.

We're all happy that Saka won the Ypoty but abeg don't make it seem as if he truly deserved it over Haaland.

If it was the season Foden won it(last two seasons), your point would have been valid cos Saka was way more impactful over Foden.

But last season, Lai lai, Haaland was certainly the better player over the two and it's not even close
You used words that mean you did not understand my post. You will not understand because you are defensively subjective and not objective. I have bolded the words.

I repeat, Haaland deserved the award but if it has gone to Saka, he too would deserve it.

That's my point and I gave my reason. Which is that Saka was more effective singlehandedly for Arsenal in impacting games than Haaland was singlehandedly impacting games for City.

The argument should be based on the paragraph above and not making mere subjective opinions which anyone can do.

If you say that Haaland was more impactful than Saka in their respective clubs then PROVE IT.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:45pm On Aug 30, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
niger have huge uranium deposit yet they don't have constant electricity...

The West will rather steal it, use it to power her industries, produce goods, sell the same goods @ a very high price 2 Africa. We saw the contents of the marshal Plan & how the US invested heavenly in order 2 develop Germany after the war. Why did US invest such amount in Europe & Asia after d war? The JAPs & Germans lost the war, they ought 2 pay repatriation but dey turn 2 beautiful bride!

There is deliberate policy 2 keep Africa underdeveloped, dey no rate us...just like A40 will say there a lot of house niggas who are willing 2 do their bidding. It makes it easier 4 dem.
Thank you.

You only need to listen to Julius Malema for 10mins to catch the joke.

I am waiting for a Tinubu supporter who has spoken in support of the coup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:42pm On Aug 30, 2023
raumdeuter:
I no fit shit na west, We blame west for removing Gadaffi yet blame west for not removing Paul Biya. The same Camerounians will go to the polls and vote Biya then blame the west for it

When you vote someone be it Bongo Biya Mugabe do you expect the west to come and help you remove him so that you can put another round of blames on them
You are assuming that the elections that brought these men to power are free and fair. You are also ignoring the fact that foreign military actually sustain these power drunkards.

Imagine France asking Nigeria to invade Niger. It's not like Nigeria is Niger or that Nigeria asked them for suggestions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:34pm On Aug 30, 2023
Roland17:
When will African countries, especially the educated minds start holding their leaders primarily accountable for the state of the continent, instead of the West?
It was French military that overpowered Lauren Gbagbo of Ivory Coast and handed power to Allasane Ouatarra.

French Embassy in Niger has refused to shutdown and their military base refused to close.

ETC

European government install criminal leadership in Africa so that they can continue to rule. Coups are just the only way to attempt a correction until another criminal comes to power.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:18pm On Aug 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
They play
undecided
Politics › Re: To Obidients That Always Call BAT A Drug Dealer. Please See This by Spy360(m): 3:17pm On Aug 30, 2023
That's also another round of hypocrisy. Those praising her are actually supporters of the main drug lord.

All drug lords are evil, whether Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa or any body at all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:11pm On Aug 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
You said saka was a better individual player than haaland and he won it because city were epl winner
Well that's a big fat fvcking lie
Haaland smashed goal scoring record last season
He was far better individually than any of our players
He as been consistent since his salzburg days
Saka is a winner no one even arsenal fans expect to win it yesterday that's because of haaland extra ordinary season
Don't create unnecessary avenue for saka dragging abeg
You are confusing yourself because you already wanted to argue without understanding the posts.

1. Both Saka and Haaland were nominated for both POTY and youngPOTY awards.

2. Haaland took the POTY while Saka took the yPOTY. Why?

3. Had Arsenal won the league, Saka would have gotten the POTY and Haaland yPOTY.

4. If Saka has won the POTY, nobody will argue, same as Haaland winning the award.

5. While Haaland was good in scoring goals, Saka was good in impacting games.

6. Saka was more critical to Arsenal's success than Haaland to Man City. The fact is that looking at Man City last season, there were players that impacted their game more than Haaland- KDB, Gundogan and Silva. Without these three, Haaland is just another Harry Kane. That's not taking away the fact that Haaland is a brilliant goal scorer and deserves the award.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:00pm On Aug 30, 2023
mostob:
Tavarez to Forest



Balogun to Monaco



Cedrichuh



Sambihuh



Holdinghuh



Pepehuh?


Time is going
Has Tierney moved to Spain?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 2:57pm On Aug 30, 2023
mostob:
I still don't know why a sane football fan would disagree with that Saka award. Well, make Dem go collect am from Saka's hand. I think Foden won the last one (not sure) despite not being good as Saka.


I'm not really surprised at Ode and Saliba's inclusion. Na Ramsdale own shock me pass. TBH, I was not expecting him to be considered ahead of the two Brazilians.
Forget Allison, I don't see how in the world Ramsdale was preferred ahead of Elderson. May be they were counting saves but then, Elderson hardly makes errors.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 2:51pm On Aug 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Who did haaland depend on in Dortmund or FIFA u20 when he scored 7goals in a match or been the youngest player to score 10 UCL goals
This is common sense
First tell me what you understand by these posts below, then I will respond to your question.

Spy360:
Saka is a better talented player than Haaland. Haaland won it because City won the PL. It's a kind of divided award between him and Saka.
Spy360:
Haaland is a good player and a brilliant goal scorer no doubt. But he depends on the likes KDB and Silva to shine. Saka does not depend on anyone, he impacts the game by himself.

There was a split decision that made both of them share the awards. It takes open eye and common sense to know.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:49am On Aug 30, 2023
iamoyindamola:
You just wake they say nonsense again
Let's remove city and compare haaland in Dortmund with any of saka best season
Between they are not playing same position, you just like complicating issues
Haaland is a good player and a brilliant goal scorer no doubt. But he depends on the likes KDB and Silva to shine. Saka does not depend on anyone, he impacts the game by himself.

There was a split decision that made both of them share the awards. It takes open eye and common sense to know.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:46am On Aug 30, 2023
Jodera:
Nobody go drag daddy award with daddy na grin
It was inevitable for Haaland. I was even surprised Our boy won Young PFA sef seeing that Haaland was also named in the category.


Meanwhile, our Men looking dapper!!

Saka for just dey middle with him "no bow tie" suit grin
Saka is a better talented player than Haaland. Haaland won it because City won the PL. It's a kind of divided award between him and Saka.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:06pm On Aug 29, 2023
ObaIgwe1:
Before the coming Havertz, we have 3 players that can dominantly play the AM role (Odegaard, Viera and ESR)

True ESR has a re-occurring knee injury and he was advised to go for a surgery to fix the problem permanently, which he did. We all know what he can do when fit and we also know he would be fit for this season. And what did Arteta do? He bought Havertz another AM.

Now we have 4 players battling for 1 or 2 positions depending on the game plan. How will that help their game time?

If anything, Havertz coming has only limited the time that will be available for ESR.

BTW, ESR injury played little role to our inability to win the league last season. If there is a department we were short, definitely not an AM. And since recovery ESR has proved to us that he has not declined with his performance at the last youth tournament.

So far we are yet to be convinced we really needed Havertz, even the fragile Viera has given us something in the few mins he played compared to Havertz while we still have a fit ESR that have not seen a minute since the start of the season and only played for 3mins during the community shield. So you think the coming of Havertz is not / will not affect ESR gametime?
One of the challenges we had last season was a weak bench and a lack of magicians who can affect the game as subs. You (not really you) that is shouting Vieira upandan now, was criticising his signing and calling him weightless.

The reason Havertz was signed was to improve the overall quality of the squad.

One important key we need to have whenever we are analysing Arteta is that his tactics are heavily dependent of the Inverting midfielder- whether it is Zinny, Timber or Partey. Now whichever of these three Arteta chooses to invert will determine who the other players will be and which part of the formation will dominate the passage of play.

Havertz is meant to create one of such outlets. He is meant to be to Martinelli what Odegaard is to Saka.

I have said here before that my challenge with him is that being a leftie, he will not create the kind of quick transitions I love as seen between Saka and Odegaard. However this is merely speculative as he will need some time to blend before I reach any reasonable conclusions. Hence I would have preferred ESR.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 7:22pm On Aug 29, 2023
iamoyindamola:
What are you saying na
Is he having playing time
What I am saying is that you should cool down. Season just start
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 2:21pm On Aug 29, 2023
iamoyindamola:
Because he's not playing
Is harvetz better than him?
If he is not playing, he should improve so that he can play.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 2:17pm On Aug 29, 2023
iamoyindamola:
He won't win spoon with this madness
And fans will turn on him if he sell another hale end academy without justifying why
What if ESR wants to leave?

Another angle undecided

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