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raumdeuter:
Ask the court properly
Or carry placard to Chicago
All eyes on Chicago Judiciary. They might consider your request

You are wasting time. Post the records make we rest oga.

Emaprince:
Yeah seen the snippets months ago when they did it. Lux was snapping and kshine went in harrrrrd.

I think shotgun suge has the best flow and cadence. he can do very well on records.

I do a hit without a word . . Like beethoven

Military rifle . . Send you where the moon and stars be

Lux opener might be a freestyle unless they wrote with the beat.

you gotto watch every step . . Like the baby outta the strolla

No vex o. Those guys rapping are they actual musicians or they just gather for such gigs?

raumdeuter:
Approach the court and get the order for whatever you need

The time they wasted typing that letter with all the grammar would have been enough to send his records.

Let them send the records, we know that our president is a first class material.

sod09:
Ngbo jodera them no give baba money😂
The 200m transfer nko

Which 200m?

The fact be say Wenger wasn't given money. He had to sell to buy.

The argument is that, if he had insisted he would have gotten money. But he was the type that preferred the love of the owners to the trophy cabinet.

daveP:
The fact is that is absolutely not glaring after 2 games. Only metric he's excelled in under 2 games is most fouled player.

We should not also pretend that he's not upsetting the balance of last season. He has. I don't need Zinny to play before i admit that aspect.


As for this off the ball movement you keep hammering, I don't want to argue. But it is not true. Even Chelsea fans go laugh you if they hear it. But we meuve.

Since you mentioned metrics and two games, I hope you won't be annoyed to know that the bolded is not just where he excelled, he also won the most duels ( in both games, and also has covered most distance.

Still not impressed?

raumdeuter:
Spy360 for your attention

https://www.nairaland.com/7815272/president-bola-tinubu-graduated-university

All eyes on US judiciary

This is very funny and petty. Now that he can boast ...

Let them just release the admission records, we want to check one thing. Just one thing.

M/F

Mario Jardel played for Porto years ago.

Jodera:
Abeg abeg abeg....

No talk this thing outside.

Thank you!!!

It's like sweeper. We know defenders who are sweepers. But now even GK are sweepers. If someone like you who loves antecedents was told ten years ago that a GK can be a sweeper he won't accept.

BlueRayDick:
Why ? Because Enenche endorsed Peter Obi ?

To be honest

Jodera:
Hahahahaha!!!
Saka and Martinelli spoil us? You call what dey are doing spoiling?
Abeg no make me laugh

What Saka and Martinelli are doing is never in any way regarded as spoiling fans. It's Just the least expected from a top club and we even need improvement from them sef.

Moreover, those names you called are all strikers. Strikers of those times are judged with goals and those names(aside jadel who I don't know) are good goalscorers. Havertz is neither an arsenal striker nor a goalscorer so such comparison no fit. And even those guys sef, na still their on the ball qualities dey count for dem(Goals)

It's simple, we can not be comfortable with only off the ball qualities from a player(Havertz or not). It will take us only so far.

Off the ball raumdeuters does not have to be a striker or any particular wing. Trezeguet and Nzaghi are also raumdeuters.

Even a defender can be a raumdeuter. It's just a style of play. Though most of them are either strikers or midfielders because that's where they operate better.

GrammarNazi1:
Who are the "we"?

Self delusional, you are.

Lol.

Enenche was partisan.

I didn't say he wasn't. Try use your sense na

garfield1:
Oga,the courts will be guided by what was presented.if you are bringing something additional,you seek leave of court and this hardly succeeds.
I already told you that what atiku has in court is insufficient.until he gets the school to disown the cert and tinubu,he will fail.go and read yesterday judgment involving lp vs Ben kalu..

Go back to your irev and confirm,95% of results has been uploaded.the law said transmit to inec server not to irev.you just believe everything against APC naively without crosschecking.it is typical of dumbidients sha

You are right. Uploading to IREV after calling results is non compliant, they should be uploading to INEC server now. Upload to IREV should have been done in real-time and at the polling unit.

raumdeuter:
A man who said and believed good things will happen to his country is the one that has backslided but the ones who place curses on Nigeria everyday are those in good standing with God

So If Kumuyi had mounted the alter and placed curses on the President like your faves do, then he will be a good person

Look, I know how pastors criticise sinners and unbelievers especially the Kumuyi type. I also know how they commend 'believers'.

Saying we should forget the past is saying we should accept the rascality that happened in the 2023 elections and believe that the rascality will work.

My brother, if Kumuyi reviews those comments in his quiet place, in his morning devotion, he will cry to God for forgiveness.

BlueRayDick:
If this is what u think, then practically all Nigerian pastors, priests, reverends, bishops, apostles, etc. have backslided o. Enenche, Oyedepo,Mbaka,Kumuyi,Adeboye,Adefarasin etc

Remove Enenche for now, we still dey watch am.

Jodera:
Lol, I no dey expect am to give me man of the match performances oo.

I just need him to turn up more, be more active in on the ball duties and be more daring and ambitious.

For an attacking midfielder in this team, his play is too safe. I hardly see him move forward with the ball, I hardly see him give threatening forward passes.

I dey always focus on am but I'll officially focus on him this weekend again.

Players like Martinelli and Saka don really spoil us so that when we see other players with different vibes we feel disappointed.

My take is, if Havertz's style is what Arteta wants to win games then no problems.

I remember watching strikers like Trezeguet, Crespo, Nzaghi, Jadel etc. They give no contributions to the overall play only to pop up from no where a score a tap in. Yet these strikers are their coach's favourites including in their NT. It was later I understood that what gave them value is their off the ball movements which meant a lot to the success of the teams.

OasisX:



...what did he actually say wrong and where did he say it is prophesy?

He is indirectly saying we should accept rascality and fraud.

He does not want to criticise and he is asking others to do the same in the face of corruption and impunity.

Even God punishes the wicked.

Think of this.

Bawa was EFCC chairman investigating Matawalle and Akpabio.

Matawalle is now defense minister.

Akpabio is now Senate President.

All chosen by Tinubu.

While Bawa has been put in cell for the past 80days without trial by Tinubu.

Think about this.

BlueRayDick:
Insulting him will not change anything. The man is obviously an optimist to a fault

Any man of God that dabbles into politics should expect insults. He could have kept it as a personal or private opinion. But asking people to believe nonsense will attract insults because he is not infallible.

To me the man has backslided and needs revival.

BlueRayDick:
I want to give u an assignment. U see this our next game? I will be here while the game is on, please as the action is taking place in real time, be pointing out those so called off the ball movement/activities of Havertz to me. Make e for no cause quarrel later

😂😂😂😂


I will try. I don't usually chat while watching matches because it affects my focus. But I will try.

If I complain of glitch no blame me, afterall nor be me start am.

Spirit04:
what are you even trying to say? If I would willingly and happily give my opponents whatever he asks for, he won't have to go to court and ask them to force me to relinquish those information. You see? That's the point I was even making

Let me give you an example.

Who did you think issued those blurred documents to Peter Obi as certified true copies of election results?

INEC

Spirit04:
if you have a case with me you will allow me get whatever information about you that I want? Tinubu and Atiku are opponents, Tinubu would be happy to see Atiku lose everywhere, and lose everything including his house keys and even custody of his children so he's demoralized and stay defeated instead of causing distraction and being a nuisance everywhere

Are you aware that in the evidence act, your opponent can ask the court to order you to bring a document in your possession and even witness to it?

You are not a lawyer you will be arguing.

garfield1:
Oga no new evidence can be tendered in apex court except by leave of that court .it is all over

You created a caveat (the bolded) and then say its all over. Not rational for me.

Based on your comment it means it is possible to present new evidence.

But, this is not even new evidence. This was already presented in court through a subpoenad witness. Atiku is only trying to dig deeper by asking for all the records.

Secondly, the case is a constitutional matter. It's not like Tinubu will be imprisoned if found out. The tribunal itself and also the Supreme Court are constitutional courts. Any new evidence that surfaces within this period of jurisprudence can be used by the judges to determine the case.

For example, up till now INEC has not fully uploaded about 31% of the results on the IREV. So if for any figment of imagination they upload the remaining between now and November, and it reveals that Tinubu did not actually win the election, don't you think the court will react?

sod09:
All these are activities with nothing to show for
If I bring you mustafi stats with vvd you will think mustafi is the best defender after baresi

Saliba misplaced his ball which gave Eduard a chance at goal. But Saliba raced back and made a timely tackle to save the day.

What makes good defenders is not making mistakes but such ability to correct those mistakes.

Mustafi is a good defender until he makes a mistake.

Saliba is a good defender even if he makes a mistake.

Stats don't lie. That's what they said and that's why managers use them. Stats don't reveal the whole picture but they do reveal something.

Those stats on Havertz are they real? That's the question.

Jodera:
Jesus play ball last season, we all saw his off the ball duties for front. E clear for our eyes, nobody needed to be an analytical coach to see wetin him bring.

Trossard came Jan, we saw how his off the ball and how it helped others excelled. Nobody needed analytical coach to tell us wetin dey plain.

Xhaka did same thing in midfield last season. Nobody needed analytical coach to help us explain it.

Our Captain Odegaard last season was the king of off the ball move and duties. We no need go coaching school to know wetin e mean.

All these players got one thing In common alongside off the ball duties and that was ON THE BALL QUALITIES!!


E reach Havertz turn, we don deh hear how off the ball duties and shadow marking needed a whole new pair of eyes. Or how we need become coach to know wetin him dey bring



Make all of us dey play

😂😂😂

You talk as if anyone has said he should be MOTM.

I recall during the UCL finals against Barcelona. Wenger opted to start a relatively unknown Fabregas in midfield and instead of Flamini who had be impressive that season.

If you watched that match, Fabregas had few touches but his off the ball movements were top notched. This helped us control the midfield until the pipe bursted because of Almunia.

Havertz like Fabregas is a player that does one touch passing. It's hard to notice if you are not focused on him.

I implore you to focus on him and give us a report this weekend.

COYG👍🏽

ObaIgwe1:
It took Xhaka years to get to that level. I remember how we all felt when Arteta blocked Xhaka from joining Roma 2 seasons ago because we all wanted him gone. Let's give Harvertz some more time...

I got some of these info about Havertz online...

Kai Havertz has covered the most total distance among Arsenal players in the Premier League this season 🏃‍♂️
1️⃣ Kai Havertz - 23.2km
2️⃣ Declan Rice - 22.8km
3️⃣ Thomas Partey - 22.1km
4️⃣ Martin Ödegaard - 22.1km
5️⃣ Bukayo Saka - 20.3km

Kai Havertz has MOST DUELS WON for the second game in a row

Kai Havertz stats vs Palace:
24/27 Passes
2 Chances created
90% Pass accuracy
39 Touches
4 Passes into Final third
3 Recoveries
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I am not yet a fan of Havertz and I still don't know why we spent that amount to get him, but let's still give Arteta enough benefits of doubt that he knows what he is doing...maybe Harvetz will be a key to us "Harvesting" many cups.

Very objective mindset.

When I defend Havertz it's not saying he should be MOTM. It's just an explanation of what he brings. If Havertz does his job well, players like Jesus, Martinelli and Saka will enjoy him. They will have tons of spaces to operate.

I expect Jodera, Blueraydick and Sod09 to carefully analyse these points you raised.

garfield1:
Oga,new evidence is not allowed sir.the problem with you apc haters is that you talk with hatred and refuse to learn.parties are bound by what happened at the tribunal.the case is dead son

You are not a lawyer oga. New evidence can tbe tendered in SC. Even any new evidence can be used by a tribunal if they don't want to depend on technicalities.

Before you call be Obidient, Tinubu is the Jagaban of Nigeria. Even if he forged certificate or kill people there's nothing any of us can do. He is jagaban

jconsulting:
So what about if the allegations are proven to be false will you then drink rat poison and rest

Don't mind him. Even if Tinubu forged his certificates nothing will happen. The Jagaban of Nigeria will not be removed as president. Jagaban till 2031 whether Nigerians like it or not.

Deogratiasfx:
It is true. Even if it is confirmed he forged his certificate, the court would still thrash the case against him. No Tribunal nor Supreme Court can remove him from office based on forged certificate.
Jagaban till 2031
Bat Supporters am I lying?

Best answer for agbado people

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
no be me & una go argue abt imaginary all-powerful jesus who was conceived via h0ly spirit, defeated death, walked on the sea, commanded the storm, raised the dead, turn water into wine... Had hundreds of thousands followers of in the then roman empire.


When u read religious books u will see that the 0nly man that came close 2 jesus greatness & achievement was Alex d Great, a man who existed decadeds before holy spirit fvcked virgin mary.


but Alexander's existence can be verified, traced & more importantly we had reputable writers/scholars who gave us an eyewitnese account.

that he came from a poor background is d more reason why scholars shld be interested & investigate his greatness, miracles & achievements.

You are assuming that those scholars believed all that was said about him? Those who believed like Saul and Luke wrote books about him. But you will not accept theirs because you called it religious books.

Let me explain.

Being a low born in a remote village (nothing worthwhile was expected from Galilee), no one would have envisaged who he was to document him while he was still alive.

What attracted interest to him was the testimonies of his followers who spoke about him in such convincing fashion that they were willing to die for it. The trigger for his followers to spread stories of him offcourse happened after his death (and ressurection).

The followers are real people with names. Herod was real. Pilate was real. The chief priests were real. Saul was a real person undisputed. He was already born when Jesus was active. He met with Peter, John and James in Jerusalem.

Denying these simple facts is being hypocritical to knowledge.

BlueRayDick:
Which kind talk be this ?

What did u see him do off the ball? I particularly took my time to watch him yesterday; he was absolutely useless more off the ball than on the ball sef .

When we don’t have the ball his pressing is just shiiit. He was just strolling everywhere ; he’s not got that Gabriel Jesus or Nketiah pressing . Even for him to position and receive long ball when he was moved upfront, he no try.

We should’ve just used that 65 million buy a normal decent striker who can play alone upfront as a striker in a situation like that when we are one man down.

First of all, we need to stop seeing Havertz as a striker. If Arteta wanted a striker he would have signed one or he would not entertain bids for Balogun. Havertz is an AM.

That said, my brother, even I find it hard to know what he adds to the team. But when I look at stats I see different things. He is just like Ozil, poor demeanor but still productive. People love players that hussle (like Sanchez, Martinelli, Jesus etc) but there are players that don't have to hussle and yet are effective.

A player like Thomas Muller came under similar criticism some time ago at Bayern. People questioned his contributions. That's until we now know what a 'raumdeuter' or space tracker is. These type of players don't need to have the ball. They are intelligent enough to open up defenses (when attacking) and block passing lanes (when defending) without having much contact with the ball.

Think of it this way, the overlapping run of a full back that opens the defense which allows the winger to cut inside and score. People see the winger and the goal, what they don't see is that the fullback actually created that chance with that run.

Jodera:
You see this Havertz matter, I don drop am for you.

I don't know whether you're intentionally doing this thing to rile us sha

According to reports, he won the most duels in both our games this season. It's a contribution. Then add that to his role of creating chances by dragging off opposition and also helping the press by shadow marking the two opposite pivots.

These type of off the ball contributions are usually not seen. Only the manager sees it because that's what he asked him to do.

sod09:
You say wetin
You promised us arteta have special plans for him

Havertz is an off the ball player. This must have been why he seem not active even though he contributed immensely.

BlueRayDick:
We no see the Havertz heaight wey spy360 no allow us hear word on top o

As per wetin I dey see for this match abeg no put my name for Havertz matter.