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ribbit:
and me that you are talking to can't be your destiny helper?

Cos you are looking for destiny helper only to help your bleeped up life doesn't mean other are.

Everyone is a billionare on the internet.


This foolish dolt must even think I'm in Nigeria looking for help.

You and amoeba should be competing about who is more dumb.

Carry your agenda enter street make soldier send your rotten corpse go give your mama. If Lagosians dey talk a fatherless Togolese refugee go open mouth dey talk.

Na for Igbo man property you want get hope. Lazy imbecil.e

Theflint1:
I sure say Ribbit go dey one corner now dey reason how many flats go reach from this building when e finally pursue una comot "our Lagos" 😁

The agbero riffraff go just dey look an Igbo man mansion come dey 'dream big'. That's why he carry the matter for head for NL.

ribbit:
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Why am i wasting my time with this foolish dunce.

Thiis shmuck said I'm spreading toxic narrative, I asked him to point to the toxic narrative, he kept asking me foolish question?

Are you always this stupid or you are just putting extra effort?

Like I said, if you have nothing meaningful to contribute, oga carry foolishness go front. Don't waste my time.

Young man senselessness must be lacking in the parental gene as there seems to be no trace of it in the signals coming from the DNA of your brain.

The person you are insulting may be the landlord your caretaker is reporting to. A mumu like you will not notice your destiny helper even if your brain is taken out and washed.

Poverty is what is oozing from your comments. I suspect you are one of the agberos who can type English. Those type that finished school with a pass that no employer of labour will want to waste a glance at your CV.

Do the simple thing he asked you. Your constant barking here like a retarded rabid dog has become a nuisance to everyone here with common sense.

Roland17:
Go to Douglas market in Owerri right by St. Paul's Catholic Church and you will see Nigerians from across the country including my Yoruba brothers who have shops... There is a popular Yoruba guy there who sells nails, wood and other building materials. I know he is still there and has built a house in Owerri..

Akintola AC is another guy who will never leave Owerri. I know him from way back.

DontBullshitMe:
Looks like APC didn't even need all the rubbish and disgusting shit they did Yesterday, they'd have won easily nonetheless considering this devastating margin.

The thuggery institution must be put to work no matter what, I guess?

A ministry of Thuggery will really make sense. So that the thugs will have ID cards and pension. Then they should not be called thugs.

raumdeuter:
Spy360 attention needed on use of state govt machinery to oppress opposition

I sincerely hope the DSS will arrest MC Oluomo.

But he is the state.

raumdeuter:
I am more concerned about what happens in Oyo than what happens in Lagos

It's the hypocrite who leave their own state issues and scream Lagos all the time when worse things happen there

That's why 35 states are almost useless when the indigenes and inhabitants all care about Lagos than where they live

Let's focus in Enugu Osun and Gombe too

You are more focused on Lagos than any other person here. You are also more focused on Lagos than your state.

You have mentioned Lagos more than OYO and more than any other person on this thread.

Oga apply your own advice.

You are not more Lagosian than Gbadebo

Theflint1:
He's Yoruba, so he has the right to comment on Lagos politics.

From America.

Should he be more concerned than those who actually live in Lagos.

raumdeuter:
Start sourcing from all states and condemning them with the same energy you used to condemn Lagos

You have typed the word 'Lagos' more than any other person on this thread. Yet you are the one claiming people should focus on other states.

Lagos is not even your state.

You are the only guilty party here Mr D.

raumdeuter:
Spy360 see what Lagos state is doing in Enugu

https://www.nairaland.com/7616974/pdp-thugs-intimidating-voters-enugu

https://www.nairaland.com/7616922/army-arrests-140-political-thugs

Highly condemned

raumdeuter:
The innocent souls blood in your home state mean nothing to you?

Is the blood in Lagos superior to the one in Enugu

Okay I get you only Lagos has state sponsored thuggery others are angelic

Isn't the political thuggery in Lagos sponsored by the state? Yes or No.

The worst death now is dying for a politician to win elections. What a waste.

https://dailypost.ng/2023/03/18/three-gunned-down-as-thugs-disrupt-election-snatch-bvas-in-benue/

raumdeuter:
Yes it will be called free and fair as long as majority of the polling units voted fairly

Now let's go to the state you live and give us situation report

So the blood of even one innocent soul mean nothing for your aspirations, and Jide will come and do Thanksgiving in church on Sunday. May your kind of justice not be served on you.

I challenge you to post evidence of state sponsored electoral thuggery any where else apart from Lagos and we will discuss about it.

raumdeuter:
Govt is a continuum. It doesn't start and end with Buhari. The bridge Buhari contested won't be destroyed on May 29

It's the responsibility of coming govt

Then they should get the credits not Buhari. Thanks for the understanding.

Buhari should take credits for only projects that he has paid for.

Meanwhile, most of those infrastructure were projects began by Jonathan. But no one is giving him credit and rightly so. Let the one who pays the debt take the credits.

BlueRayDick:
INEC got over 300 billion to conduct election , then thugs go to polling units to burn ballot papers procured for this exercise . Yet person go talk say make u no lose hope for this country and continue to PRAY FOR NIGERIA . Prayers wey be say people dey work hard day and night to make sure say e no come to pass

The official statement by Lagos police about the threats by MC Oluomo is that he was joking.

Wetin INEC go do?

They will come back to tell you the ballot papers did not account for substantial evidence

Fear who no fear fear

raumdeuter:
Almost every infrastructure in the world was borrowed to build. So we can say there was no achievement anywhere in the world

An achievement is anything that makes the life of your people easier and makes doing business easier

I hate repeating myself unnecessarily when I know you got the message.

Has Buhari paid the loan? If he hasn't it's not his achievement. The president who pays the loan should take credit for the infrastructure.

Dayo you understand me stop pretending.

So let's assume Jide Sanwoolu wins this election. Will he call it free and fair?

Thugs Set Ballot Paper On Fire In Lagos

Thugs have set ballot papers on fire at Tedi, Ojo in Lagos State on Saturday.

The voice behind the camera said, “ They have destroyed everything, they burn everything. Here is Tede primary school, Ojo Lagos. pic.twitter.com/7FgqS1TvZs

— Punch Newspapers (@MobilePunch) March 18, 2023

Honestly we have no security agencies in Nigeria.

Only God can say how terrible Nigeria will be under Tinubu.

DontBullshitMe:
I knew LP is not going anywhere the moment I saw their numbers of seats in the National Assembly.

Less than 8% seats in the senate
Less than 10% seats in the House of Representatives.

What that means is they can't even block any legislative action because they lack the necessary numbers.

Anyway, if they can win 4 or 5 state Government seats, it will be a great boost for the movement because the state Governors political strength will be necessary to fortify the party ahead of the 2027 elections.

Before this election did you mention that LP will win any rep seat not to talk of senate?

LP are the true winners of this election no matter the outcome of today.

Peacemaker5128:
Mazi Bola Ahmed Tinubu still won
What evidence will they now present to the court?

Mad people need others to let them know they are mad.

Bros you are mad.

raumdeuter:
How will all these bold happen without the needed infrastructure?
To beat inflation we need to produce, How do you create an environment for business growth when one lane connects Asaba to Onitsha? and you spend 4hrs crossing a 4km road?
How does Naira drop when local production is not boosted? And how will local produce reach the market when we are still plying Benin Ore road with wells in the middle f the road

How will life be secure when opportunities for business to grow are not there? How will life be secure when a farmer who invested so much have all his produce rotten because of bad road before he gets to the market. How will that farmer not turn to crime

You think development and all you listed just happen because a govt prays or what? Without certain infrastructures all you listed cannot happen

If we have done 2nd Niger bridge in 1990 instead of 2019, think of all the opportunities lost, or Lagos Ibanda rail way since 1999

You have only discussed the benefit of having the infrastructure. That's a deviation from the point. The point is that if he had to borrow for it, then it should not be considered an achievement.

If Dayo can identify those benefits then we don't need Buhari. Buhari should not list borrowing as an achievement.

GloriousGbola:
now, if we had working rail or roads that were in a condition where a road trip dropped from 4 days to 1 day - cost of delivery of materials would drop

if we took a loan that sorted out power issues, the operating costs of FMCG would drop. right now they a have diesel or gas generators that they operate and maintain - and this cost transfers to customers

a working environment for business requires infrastructure. a 30minute commute is good for business. reliable electricity is good for business

one of the causes of crime is unemployment. unemployment occurs because businesses shut down because of high operating costs.

but the most important thing you have missed - all those businesses out there run on debt in one form or another. there are very few businesses that are self funding.

You are right but you have not made any point regarding the crux of the matter.

You have mentioned why building roads and rails are important and useful but that's not the issue. The issue is borrowing being considered an achievement .

Borrowing is not bad but should it be considered an achievement?

Having a car is good. But if you borrowed to buy it, then don't consider it an achievement until you have paid the debt. If your child has to pay the debt, then it is his achievement not yours.

Buhari borrowed to build roads and rails. It is not an achievement for him. It will be the achievement of the future president that will pay the loan.

GloriousGbola:
you are using the wrong term.

why would i consider a car an achievement? a car for me is first and foremost a TOOL to make my life and work easier. for ME, my purchase decisions are hinged FIRST and FOREMOST on UTILITY - not 'ACHIEVEMENT'
you are mixing up achievement with utility

my adult children would recognize that a car loan made their education easier. that is what adulthood is about. if i had taken a loan for a thing that had no impact whatsoever on their quality of life - then they can be upset.

But you considered road an achievement?

raumdeuter:
Is building the 2nd Niger bridge with loans an achievement or not?

What is an achievement to you? Anything that makes doing business easier is an achievement to me

This is mediocre. Sorry for the harsh words.

Any mediocre who is elected president can go to IMF or World Bank and ask for money using the nation as collateral to build road. You don't even have to think to do that. It's like swallowing fufu with egusi soup. When I do that I don't even need any form of calculation.

An achievement for me, for someone who gets elected into the highest office in the federation is being able to provide leadership and service that an average Nigerian cannot provide for himself.

For example,

Beating down inflation so that bread drops from N1000 to N500
Creating the environment for business growth, and business actually growing.
Working up the economy so that naira drops from N700 black market to N400
Making life and property secure so that traveling from Abuja to Kaduna won't make headline news
Etc.

Tell me about such achievements. These are the areas that require thoughtful planning and organisation.

Olowunl01:
Anybody still believing that Buhari performed better than Jonathan is being untruthful... Jonathan maybe not have performed well, but based on his experience and coupled with Boko Haram challenge and him being a security novice, I would say he is 4/10 primarily becos knowing he doesn't know he allowed people that know to take lead resulting to mostly positive(Amina, Iweala, Adesina & co) with some spectacular failure e.g. Dieziani.. Buhari on the other hand came with Obasanjo level experience and if we are being honest should be compared against Obj 8years tenure achievement (don't bother he does not measure up) he failed spectacularly Ex President, Ex Minister for Petroluem, Head of other Government Agency under Abacha and still he couldn't deliver.
What exactly did Buhari do better in 8yrs than Jonathan 5yrs?
Rail
Jonathan did Abj - Kad although comissioned by Buhari, where is Buhari equivalent after 8years seeing Abj- Kad was constructed within 5yrs, I expected we would have standard gauge/fast train between Lagos -ABJ or Lag - Kad as these should actually take less time to complete, as route exist so less demolition work, planning & Analysis bring an upgrade behold na Lag - Ibadan we still dey.

Agriculture:
For those shouting Rice Mills - for Buhari, Abeg na wetin Akinwunmi Adesina do na ? Or didn't the Agriculture revolution begin with the policies he implemented under Jonathan?


Like BluerayDick said - support your MCM, but please also hold them to account on behalf of people of Nigeria; not providing them with ready made excuses - cos we need a working Nigeria...

If Ghana next door is working and improving abeg what is Nigeria's excuse?

Absolutely. Thanks for the expansive knowledge and comparisons.

raumdeuter:
Roads, brides built make doing business easy increase business and make it easier to get taxes.

If you can move Container from Apapa to Onitsha on a fast train within 2hrs, that opens up the entire SE and thus create a new business hub with more people paying taxes, paying for freight and govt makes money

If you make people commute from 4hrs daily to 1hr using loans to build new roads, the people wont mind paying tolls that will pay the loans

You are running in cycles. I have never said the project is a bad one or that it is useless. What we are considering here is if you will term it an achievement. Stop pretending you don't understand what I mean.

GloriousGbola:
lets expand on that

so that car was the car that took you to school everyday. without that car you would have walked to school everyday and gotten to school late, dirty tired and stressed.

by buying that car [with a loan] they made your education easier and allowed you to focus on your education

no one would be upset by loans if they ultimately added value - the problem is that the loans are often siphoned and wasted and they end up not adding value

Good.

Now in all honesty, would you consider that as an achievement if you are the parent?

Would you consider it a thing to be proud of while telling your child to pay the loan?

Yes or No

raumdeuter:
Most infrastructure all over the world are built with loans because of the huge amount needed to complete it, It will ensure that yur population enjoy the infrastructure and can pay for it later.

Waiting to save up the amount needed for the project will take years and the lives wasted or inefficiency over that time

Hence, the achievement you should be talking about should not include this. Because it is not an achievement.

Any achievement in this line will be the things that have been put in place to generate income to settle the loan. That should be what to be mentioned as the achievement.

No one should be talking about building roads as an achievement using borrowed money when...

Unemployment is on an all time high
133million poor introduced into poverty
Naira value has collapsed
Inflation is suffering from inflation
Life expectancy dropped to below adult age
Education is dead
A president will die if he is treated for malaria in our local hospitals
Security agencies are insecure
Bandits are vigilantes and collecting tax
Etc

liveLongNprospa:
Peter Obi dey try sha.

Lmao this one INEC is still refusing to comply so. God abeg

This tweet is a good move by PO to absolve himself from any blame if the mob becomes uncontrollable.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The same people hailing the borrowings would come tomorrow and tell us how Nigeria is laddened with debt, how we spend 80% of our earnings on debt servicing, how this country cant be redeemed, blah blah blah

Tomorrow, they'll defend borrowing again and call it a Masterclass move

If a man like me can be confused about what Nigerians want, I wonder how confused the heavens will be[/color]

Lol

And tell us we are poor and our budget is too poor compared to other countries of our size.

Grand theft auto

Theflint1:
If our politicians stole only half, we won't be in the situation we are right now, the scale of theft that goes on through government contracts is crazy.

Absolutely.

The way some of us here defend these crooks is even more worrisome. How then can they change when they have praise singers?

raumdeuter:
Spy said it wont be an achievement if its from borrowed money

If your parents took a loan to buy a car, in hope that when you are born, grow up, finish school, get a job you will start paying off the loan. You won't like them.

To them it may be a good thing they have a car, but to a bystander, they are wicked parents.

This is just an analogy.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Till now, i still try to understand how this is an achievement.

Someone takes loans to build roads, and the people see it as Einstein-esque. How?

One moment, Nigeria is broke and in debt. The next moment, we are celebrating borrowing loans to build roads.

Hell-O- Hell[/color]

What's even harsh is that the amount would be overblown. Half of the money would be cornered

That's the trick now, even Wike used during the last days of his government. Borrow money, build white elephant projects and corner 50% of the released amount.

People dont know that Buhari is the smartest their in this country. Imagine stealing and people praising you for incorruptibility. That's grande.