Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 7:11am On Jul 17, 2023 |
garfield1: Wole has buried obi Akuko onye awuruma Beer parlour talk |
Politics › Re: Tribunal: EU Has Put Judiciary Under Pressure By Lanre Adewole by Spy360(m): 9:42pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
Omoawoke: Only those in the SE think he is fraud. Tinubu won the election hands down.
You guys are clowns, you want to impose a 3rd position candidate that did not meet 25% in up to 25 states to become president. You guys are so delusional beyond repair Don't be silly 👇🏼
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Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 9:39pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
seunmsg: This thread is about why Wole Olanipekun quoted Awolowo vs Shagari instead of Osun state judgement and you supported the OP. Since Wole quoted Awolowo vs Shagari in his argument regarding the FCT case, tell us where Supreme Court addressed 25% in FCT in the Osun matter or in any other case previously decided. Is 25% in FCT the only item in the petition? Try get sense na. Just try. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 9:36pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
garfield1: You are contradicting yourself.olanipekun defense is unassailable,obi team won't have answer to that.irev is critical in the absence of form ec8a but in this case,it's over for obi It's you that is contradicting Olanipekun. 😂😂😂 Your learned silk said IREV is irrelevant. 😂 You see that you just want to defend something that is not true just because it's APC. You have been roped by your own convictions, yet you are still denying. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 9:13pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
emerged01: Hmm,his defense was poor for his level? Na judge go decide that one o. If you are a lawyer you should know that,me I no be lawyer but i meet am for house. It's hard defending evil that is so glaring even the blind can see it. He is doing a very difficult job. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 9:12pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
garfield1: And when irev is in dispute,you bring agent or police copies At least you have accepted the fact IREV is critical. Olanipekun's defense totally nullified the value/importance of IREV. That's why I said his defense is poor as you have admitted. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 8:44pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
garfield1: Irev is still secondary, physical results are primary Yes. So when the physical result is in dispute due to alleged manipulation, IREV takes precedence. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 8:41pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
emerged01: Ignored by a SAN? If you think so,then he intentionally did it for a reason best known to him. That's what I'm saying. A lawyer that wins over the other lawyer shows he understands the technicality of law better. Nothing else o. Yes I believe he intentionally ignored it. I think the reason is that it won't favour him. It's that simple. Hence why we said his defense was too poor for his level. This case using the 2022 EA does not favour APC/Tinubu. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 8:38pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
seunmsg: Can you point me to where the 2023 Osun election judgement addressed the issue of 25% in FCT? You skipped my earlier posts. I wasn't referring to FCT. There are several other areas the Osun Petition relates with the PEPT, but he never thought it wise to cite any of them. Not even one. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 7:38pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
emerged01: I believe the issue is you recommending a case that should be sited to back the case to prove INEC right. Isnt that a trap? The only case that has to do with the 2022 electoral act was ignored. That's a sign. |
Politics › Re: Tinubu To PEPT: Nullifying The Election Over 25% FCT Could Cause Anarchy, Chaos by Spy360(m): 7:34pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
All votes are equal but they don't carry the same weight. 25% in Bayelsa is less than 100k votes, whereas 25% in Kano is almost 1million votes.
If all votes are equal then there is no reason for the framers of the constitution to require that the winner get 25% in 2/3 of the states and the FCT. The reason for that is to ensure spread.
That spread is the same reason why 25% in FCT is a MUST.
No past president has won election without winning 25% in FCT. It won't start now. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 7:09pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
emerged01: People dont know anything about law. I laugh when I see a layman talking about law. A lawyer spent 6yrs while studying law you that read english is forming for 4yrs "I too know" Technicality of law is beyond layman's knowledge. Citing a case of 1979 maybe a trap in this case. The issue is not that he cited 1979, but that he totally ignored 2023 case. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Spy360(m): 7:08pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
The SC judgement on the Osun election gave primary status to BVAS evidence and secondary to IREV. That is where there is dispute in election results or accreditation, BVAS comes first then IREV second.
In this PEPT, there is no BVAS (it was deleted by INEC) and so IREV takes primary status.
The electoral act also mandates INEC to compare results on IREV before announcement. |
Politics › Re: Tribunal: EU Has Put Judiciary Under Pressure By Lanre Adewole by Spy360(m): 6:32pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
The supporters of BAT know that he is a fraud. How they want this country to be run by a fraud is what I don't get. How does one hate his nation so bad. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 6:08pm On Jul 16, 2023 |
tinsel: What efforts did the petitioner made to tackle the issue if Rivers? You want the defense to open up in areas the petitioner failed? The petition stated that their votes were suppressed and that they won Rivers and Benue and also had more scores in Lagos, Imo, etc. They brought forms EC8AS as evidence to show manipulation of the results. So if the respondents did not counter the claim, if the petitioners provide their own results in their reply, the court will be forced to abide by it. |
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Roland17: Nwanne, is this confirmed? No. E fit be fake news self. |
Politics › Re: Reactions As Photos Of President Tinubu's Etiquette Greeting To Oba Of Benin Su by Spy360(m): 1:47pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
OriOko88: Ur mumuism is legendry Yoruba is under Fulani Emirates  |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:56am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: The intendment of the framers is what will matter not what is written How's that determined beyond a literal interpretation? How do you know another person's mind? |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:55am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: Good.after they case,he will come for obi surely That's if and if he wins. Which I doubt. 😂 Baba na bad man. Drug kingpin. Obi will find his way. 😂 |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:54am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: No,I never said so.theres no need to even bring any evidence as the judges have made their minds already Cool.  |
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A001: I hope the Oyomesi appoints a prominent Isese practitioner from the royal family as the next Alaafin. Sadly, they'd up appointing either a Muslim or a Christian to hold one of the most prestigious titles in Yorubaland.
This is a prime example that shows slavery and colonialism in Africa never really ended but just changed form.
I don't know what business an African has on the throne as a king if they must promote foreign cultures (Islam and Christianity), which are evil and harmful to Africa as these cultures seek to erase the African native cultures and traditions. Even if he has to be a Muslim or Christian, he has no right to stop traditional practices. It's not about him but the stool itself. |
Politics › Re: PEPT: Bola Tinubu Claims In His Final Written Address That He Got 25% In FCT by Spy360(m): 9:41am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: On every other angle.the judges will settle fct matter and obi won't benefit Listen, that statement from Tinubu that he won 25% of 29 states and the FCT will work against him. Just wait till the next seven days and see how it would be used in the reply. It's a clear attempt to deceive the judges. Howbeit a lame one. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:39am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: It is not 50 50.if you look closely at the history of the courts, various rulings and body language there's no way they would rule in favour of the status quo You are on your own on this. The constitution is written in simple English and so a literal interpretation comes first before application of any other methodology. I only said it's 50-50 because of my lack of confidence in the judiciary. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:37am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: So winning his mandate is by discrediting tinubu in the media instead of showing how he won It's part of it. Tinubu too used negative propaganda to discredit Obi. The difference is that Tinubu has a lot of skeletons in his cupboard and so is a very easy target for discredit. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:35am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: You have started with your lies and misinterpretation.i never argued about written address,you are the one arguing.you claimed new facts and new issues would be brought during the address and I told you it is not true that it will be baeed on what happened at the proceedings No you are now lying. You said the issue of FCT was not brought up and so would not be part of the judgement. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:24am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: I thought he came to win his mandate back That's the goal. And majority of Nigerians are with him on that mandate. We just want a better country. Everything is not japa. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:22am On Jul 15, 2023 |
DeLaRue: No, it isn't and can't be 'gone' just because the petitioners 'push'.
A party to a case can push his line of argument, but it is for the court to interprete the Constitution.
Interpretation of the Constitution is not like proving a fact where the court is to a large extent relying on lawyers for the parties. The constitution reserves the power of Interpretation to the court. Lawyers can only seek to persuade the court.
I also don't believe the 25% issue is substantially challenging. In my view, there's less than a 5% chance that the court will adopt a literal interpretation as that is unlikely to reflect the intention of the makers of the Constitution.
I suspect that is why the President 's lawyers did not waste too much time on it. It's fairly simple. I agree with all you posted except your view in the bolded. I'd say it's 50-50 |
Politics › Re: Reactions As Photos Of President Tinubu's Etiquette Greeting To Oba Of Benin Su by Spy360(m): 9:20am On Jul 15, 2023 |
Thomasankara: [/color]you wan start wahala[color=#770077]😆😆😆😆
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Politics › Re: PEPT: Bola Tinubu Claims In His Final Written Address That He Got 25% In FCT by Spy360(m): 9:19am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: He messed obi up How? That Tinubu won 25% in FCT? |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:18am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: Obi's entire petition was just to discredit tinubu,nothing more It was Tinubu that was announced na, what else? It was also to discredit INEC. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 9:18am On Jul 15, 2023 |
garfield1: Obi team failed to show how results were manipulated.obi team brought nothing on FCT since they know they won't benefit We have been through this before. Obi said he was challenging the results in Rivers, Benue and other states. He only used IREV to show that it cannot be used to settle the dispute due to INEC's non compliance. As for the issue of FCT, it's a constitutional matter that requires no witness. I told you there would be a reply after the final address but you argued. |
Politics › Re: Peter Obi/labour Party Vs Inec/tinubu: Respondents Final Written Address by Spy360(m): 6:23am On Jul 15, 2023 |
seanfer: Don’t forget that the petitioners didn’t make efforts to convince the court about the result manipulations in Rivers, Benue, Imo and Lagos. All they do is dump results sheets on the floor of the court. If that's the case then there's an issue. But I expect that it shouldn't. |