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Politics › Re: INEC And BAT APC May Lose Woefully To Peter Obi And Atiku In Court by Spy360(m): 9:03pm On Jul 06, 2023

BAT supporters will either use insults or use vague conclusions without proof.

I will be waiting for any of them sensible enough to bring up counter points against the Op.

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Politics › Re: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 8:45pm On Jul 06, 2023

Lotanna2:
Peter failed to present concrete evidence

What evidences did he present? Mention them.

I want to expose your ignorance.

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Politics › Re: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:12pm On Jul 06, 2023

IconicR:
Oya we are waiting for judgement, judgement that you all will still fault

Off course we are waiting for judgement. So on what basis do you think Tinubu will not be sacked?

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Politics › Re: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:11pm On Jul 06, 2023

IconicR:
He did not win anything, there's no way he'll win . You all are so naive about Nigeria politics

This is the usual rhetoric of agbado people without any proof or explanations. You just reach a conclusion out of no where, and denying all the facts laid before you.

Even if Tinubu is a god, with you as worshipper he is not infallible. I advise you to change for the sake of your sanity.

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Politics › Re: How Peter Obi Lawyers Smartly Used Tinubu's Witness Evidence To Nail Tinubu by Spy360(m): 2:07pm On Jul 06, 2023

helinues:
Smartly?

Should Obi and smartness be in the statement?

I expected a smart guy like you to stand as a witness for Tinubu so that you will present all those analysis you give us here to them.

Why didn't they invite you? Are you really smart? huh

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Politics › Re: Datti Ahmed Laughing After INEC Witness Failed by Spy360(m): 2:03pm On Jul 06, 2023

001Lagos:
Tinubu has been reduced to a laughing stock by the people that he called to defend him in court ..

Tinubu is a joke 😂🤣😂🤣

Politics › Re: Datti Ahmed Laughing After INEC Witness Failed by Spy360(m): 2:02pm On Jul 06, 2023

aswani:
Switruth,

I don't understand your response in the context of my message.

If the information I have posted is false, please regal us with the correct information.

1. Tinubu would be disqualified

2. The votes that he stole (the 18000 PU) would be restored

3. Based on 1 and 2, Peter Obi would be declared winner.

Clear?

Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 8:20am On Jul 05, 2023

garfield1:
Oga, guidelines cannot be used to nullify elections.
Secondly,rigging could have happened under any transmission whether electronic or manual.it is now left for you to prove it and show how it denied you victory substantially.did lp do that? NO.they are only assuming.
Lp only dumped physical result sheets in court.they failed to display or showcase the actual forms with irregularities,mutilations or blurriness.they only showed 18,000 blurred irev results.blurred results are different from mutilated results.blurred means unclear,mutilated means clear but with a lot of changes

Why then did INEC bring their ICT expert to defend themselves if there was nothing to defend and IREV means nothing?

Play on.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:54am On Jul 05, 2023

ImperialYoruba:
Irev is a public service. So INEC gave commitment, promising transparency with the result. The result is a utility for public consumption. In such arrangements the commitment is treated as a service level . If Irev is not available they failed SLA (service level agreement). This does not mean the collated data at source lost validity.

By the way, what is the data? It is an ink stamped ballot paper. That is the data itself.

Is this what they put in Irev? NO.

Ink-stamped ballot papers, classified by party logo are counted at each polling unit and recorded on a form. The form is then endorsed by each party agent present. Over 176,000 polling units forwarded their endorsed forms to INEC. After adding all the reports on the forms to obtain result for each party and candidate the outcome is shared.

As part of its process improvement, INEC wants the collation of these reports and outcomes to be shared with public (Irev) in real time. This part of their process failed. Does this mean the ink-stamped ballots are no longer valid?

Validity & integrity of the data should not be faulted because INEC missed SLA.

Your points are well understood.

I think you attempt to divert the point that upload to IREV is part of the electoral guideline and you termed it SLA. It's a guideline not SLA. A SLA is a signed document between two or more parties. There was no SLA. In fact that would have been more terrible for INEC.

The aim of the PDP and LP is to show that the election was rigged in favour of APC. That after ballot counting at the PU, when they got to the ward centres the scores for LP were changed to favour APC. The argument is that this could not have happened if the IREV worked realtime, as everyone would have the original results on the website. Those mutilated results are the blurred results on IREV. Meaning that the IREV was there to ensure TRANSPARENCY not just public view. Someone was hiding something.

PDP and LP have obtained the CTCs of the EC8As from INEC. They revealed gross mutilations.

One may ask, what about the results issued to the agents? Will you be surprised of each of the agents bring their own versions of results mutilation? According to the SC judgement of Osun, the physical forms EC8As issued by INEC are the primary source evidence while the IREV report is the secondary, note that IREV report is BVAS report which has already been deleted by INEC in the guise of preparing for Governorship elections. INEC refused access to the BVAS and even deleted that of FCT that had no governorship election.

My question now is what should happen to the form EC8As that were mutilated? Should the court admit them like that without question?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:49am On Jul 05, 2023

TrebleChamp:
Another ban loading 😂😂😂

I thought as much. Nihilist just go report an alternative account. But I hope Mukina2 go understand. 😁😁😁

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:39am On Jul 05, 2023

garfield1:
You are quoting from a mere guideline which is inferior.the electoral act has given inec the power to transmit anyhow.the supreme court has made server evidence secondary.thats that.apply commonsense and stop this nonsense

You have admitted that the INEC guidelines were not followed.

Does the electoral act empower INEC to develop a collation system? Yes.

INEC's failure to follow its own guidelines is a violation of the electoral act itself.

A school says you must obey your teacher.
Teacher gives instructions. A student then says I will disobey my teacher, it does not mean I disobey the school. The teacher is inferior to the school. Makes no sense.

Electoral act says INEC has the power to create her own guidelines which must be obeyed. The guidelines were not obeyed as you agree, but you turn back to say it is inferior to the electoral act. I can't even make sense out of it.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:31am On Jul 05, 2023

ImperialYoruba:
Irev result showed to him are blurry. Result used to declare winner is EC8 and BVAS, not irev.

Infact, you can take irev offline and integrity of result of the election is still intact.

The only way you can change the integrity is to manipulate EC8 and BVAS.

Petition should have focused on the integrity of the BVAS and EC8, not on irev.

The purpose of IREV is the ensure the transparency of the process according to the INEC guideline. See the pix below.

If IREV is not available then the process is not transparent and therefore cannot stand.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 2:27am On Jul 05, 2023

garfield1:
Read the full sttaement of justice agim about third hand evidence

If you don't have a point just keep silent than dragging me up and down meaninglessly

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Politics › Re: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 2:25am On Jul 05, 2023

DOptical:
Use brain na.

Both has the same content on them.

One recently issued from the school. The other is an old one issued from the school years ago. Both has same content on it.

My brother you have not been following. It's simple. The fake one was obtained from a website notorious for fake certificates. Read up and be informed.

Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:46pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
Yes to an extent.it is useful in the absence of manual results

Both sentences contradict each other. If you say yes, then the second sentence is inconsequential.

If I take yes, then the new electoral act was violated. Based on the screenshot below.

If I go with the second sentence, then it means that a blurred IREV results nullifies the hardcopy.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
Read osun judgment again by justice agim.it is oyetola vs adeleke supra 2023 per jsc agim.

Why don't you tell me what it says?

What I see there is that BVAS is the primary source of election data.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:14pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
The camera of the bvas could be faulty,bad handling by inec staff,bad weather,bad flashlight.when photocopying documents,don't some copies come out blurry? Does that mean forgery? Forgery is when something is mutilated or erased.why has obi not displayed mutilated documents

Then we can say that IREV is useless and meaningless and a waste of resources and energy. And all the brouhaha by INEC about uploading realtime was a farce? Yes? No?

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 7:12pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
The supreme court interpreted it in osun

Give me an interpretation whether Osun or what you are seeing.

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Politics › Re: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 7:08pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
Oga,that is not what is being argued.yiu guys always misunderstand issues.atiku is saying his name in his degree is different from his other documents and that his transcripts belong to a female and his nysc was forged.he never said his bsc was fake.

Hmmm

The pictures I posted are they the same?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:06pm On Jul 04, 2023

nihilistjnr:
Ogbeni we know how you move, own it.

When you thought Chicago State University disowned Tinubu's certificate, the supposed word of the uni was good enough

But when someone presents a result slip with somebody else's name literally encoded in it, you're calling for an independent review of JAMB Systems before the girl can be called guilty?

If you just own your tribalism, you would look less foolish...not a lot less foolish, but less foolish all the same.

IRRELEVANT

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 7:03pm On Jul 04, 2023

OasisX:

.....if you like keep wailing forever, wetin concern me?!

Diversion due to lack of evidence. Na una way.

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Politics › Re: Tinubu Tenders Chicago State University Academic Records At The Tribunal by Spy360(m): 6:06pm On Jul 04, 2023

We want to see the pictures of the documents to know if they are the same with what he gave INEC. Oya Garfield1, Seunmsg, Seunowa get to work.

For reference, the pictures below are what is being argued in the tribunal.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 6:02pm On Jul 04, 2023

OasisX:

.... you're aware of it but you would rather stick to craps Hundeyin is feeding you folks? LOL!

Democracy is in danger, Judiciary is compromised would be anthem soon on this board.

Show me pictures of the documents and I will be silent forever. I'll be online till midnight.

Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:56pm On Jul 04, 2023

seunmsg:
They are blurry only on IREV. The real form EC8A results for the 18k units are not blurry. They are very clear and they were used in collating the results. Results were not collated on IREV.

Why should IREV be blurry and the source clear?

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:53pm On Jul 04, 2023

seunmsg:
For people like you to view from home.

Ok. Kindly interpret the statement on the pix below.

Cc Garfield1
Seunowa

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:49pm On Jul 04, 2023

OasisX:
The academic records from the Chicago State University, 12 documents in all, were certified on June 28, 2023 by Jamar C. Orr, the Associate General Counsel, Office of the Legal Affairs, Chicago State University.

https://community.thenationonlineng.net/forum/breaking-tinubu-tenders-academic-records-from-chicago-state-unive?xg_source=twitter

Its damn hard to be associated with that movement and still have your brain functioning well as a sensible human.

I am aware of the documents tendered. I hope they are the same as the ones he submitted to INEC. That's the Koko.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:47pm On Jul 04, 2023

GloriousGbola:
you heard she is 16?

you are a REAL case. even on her forged result, her birth year is 2004

So you are still relying on the said forged document results to ascertain information on her date of birth? Yes/No

Old man, leave that girl and focus on national issues. She is a distraction.

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:43pm On Jul 04, 2023

garfield1:
Clause 93 states that manual forms is the primary form

What then is the purpose of IREV?

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Politics › Re: “The Results Are Blurry”. INEC Witness Admits In Court Under Cross Examination. by Spy360(m): 5:42pm On Jul 04, 2023

seunmsg:
IREV results are downloaded from IREV. IREV results were not used for collation so it’s of no effect even if it is blurry. Below is the relevant testimony of the witness that the OP will not post here.

And this

Final

What them is the purpose ilof IREV in the elections?

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:36pm On Jul 04, 2023

GloriousGbola:
First of all 19 years old is not a little girl. That is an adult.

I heard she is 16. But whatever age she is, it's inconsequential . If she is wrong she should face the law. Meanwhile, that should not be a national crisis where DSS are invited to interrogate her while the country's president is battling a more serious case of perjury.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:33pm On Jul 04, 2023

Tinubu did not submit primary school certificate.

Tinubu did not submit secondary school certificate.

The degree certificate he submitted was a fake one.

He will come now and say that it was Demons Elliot that filled the form for him. grin

Yet he is the right candidate.

It is Mmesoma that is the problem of Nigeria.

Focus people 👇🏼

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 5:30pm On Jul 04, 2023

raumdeuter:
As long as the school can verify the name and details of the certificate

What format and color does not matter

So if someone brings N1000 note he got in 2010 and you see it's different from the note in 2023, that means the note he got in 2008 was fake?

Stop disgracing yourself egbon.

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