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BlueRayDick:
Nigerians have mastered the art of suffering and smiling under this administration.

If election holds tomorrow, u will be surprised that a whole lot of people will still vote Tinubu.

Why?

You will start hearing extremely fooolish and unintelligible excuses like : "Jagaban is trying, it's not easy to clear the rot of 24 years in one year " ;But it is easy to quadruple the suffering of the people with useless policies within a year.

Plus we have a very short memory. By next year we will forget all that transpired because Naira will go from 1600 now to 1550 then.

MadPolitician:
But for how long?

My brother it depends on everyone of us. I don't know what else we need to motivate us to react. More hunger? More arrests and execution? More stealing and recklessness? More Balablu?

In most countries, for them this government would have already crossed the line with that useless subsidy is gone statement on the first day of this useless government

MadPolitician:
This guy actually thinks that he has the political gravitas to cage the whole angry and hungry Nigerians for as long as he wants? Dude is overestimating his capabilities. The daily worshipping that happens at his gate in Bourdillion seem to be fooling him. Actions like this will actually stiffen resolves to fight amongst the poor not frighten them, since it's now more like a zero sum game

In reality my brother he does. I know because if by now we are still discussing this on NL instead of him escaping through a tunnel to Benin Republic, and if by now some people are still supporting him, and if by now even if he gives some idiots N5k they will protest against these protesters being tried for treason, my brother forget it. Tinubu has not just caged, but he has also pocketed the whole Nigeria

Jodera:
Lol, you're forgetting Jorginho?

But I doubt Jorginho will play cos he hardly plays Partey and Jorgi together. So what I'm suspecting is

Odegaard, Partey, Havertz.

Saka, Trossard, Martinelli.

Easy peasy

Jesus should be back. Trossard goes to bench

germaphobe:
I love our set up and game play but honestly I wouldn't mind if one player scores dem goals and the team achieve success in terms of trophies. Haaland scoring goals doesn't take away the brilliance of other players in Man City. Last season he scored the goals but Foden won a more priced individual award.

The era of one player doing all the goal scoring has past. Funny enough it was Pep who introduced total football in this generation where he has goal scorers across the front line. Going back to the ancient tactics of putting the goal scoring burden on one player for me is improper. It is working now but it's a problem that player loses form or gets injured.
So the team crashes?

Any manager will prefer a team where he has multiple goal scorers than single.

Arteta has built a team where a defender like Gabriel can get 7-8goals in a season from set pieces. They have taken it as a responsibility and have mastered it. Now we are the most dangerous in set pieces. For me we are better equipped than Man City.

iamoyindamola:
Haaland with another hat trick but we don’t need cf 😂😂😂
When last we score hat trick, oh arteta ball allow multiple scorers as if city don’t have different scorers too

CF or not. If one player scores more than 50% of all the goals then that team has a problem.

BlueRayDick:
So Trossard will have to come off due to Rice recklessness . SMH

Trossard was the reason Rice got carded because he does defend well and so Rice has all the pressure from that area.

Arteta will regret falling for that mistake or listening to fans calling for Trossard to start.

Martinelli could have easily dealt with that full back

Shegzdave:
Half Time
Nice ball so far, sweet goal from King Kai assisted by one and only StarBoy

Partey and Rice on Yellow

Partey's yellow was uncalled for. Asking the ref to fk off is a card offense now. Players should follow the rules better

This ends the Trossard must start debate.

😂

Who needs a striker again? You? Me?

😂

iamoyindamola:
Clubs improve from last season but we always reduce in quality
The blind could see the games we lost last season were due to absence potent striker
All these arteta doesn't use pure 9 na sacamaje
These guys will use forever to make signing after identifying their target
The entire transfer just went from 8 to 0

In the end we will be seeing pep is the oga boss

Calm down.

The window isn't exceptionally good but it was quite decent.

My only low point is that we didn't upgrade our first team but time will tell if the likes of Calafiori and Merino will prove us wrong.

But we definitely did upgrade the quality of our bench. No doubt about that.

The sweetest part is exchanging Nelson for Sterling. And having to see Chelsea pay 265k every weekend,

Roland17:
Under Arteta, we are now at the peak of our spending.

See, I don’t care if he signs Kiki Musampa, I stopped bothering 2 seasons ago. If he fails to win the league/ UCL, I just hope for the sake of the club’s future, his loyalists have the decency to demand his sack without turning amala or reminding me Pep is still in the league.

Please, we are not spending and investing to this level for Carabao or FA Cup. Arteta has been given funds, his choice of players is his business but no one should ever say he wasn’t backed in the transfer market.

I acknowledge that he has to win things this season but every other thing you wrote didn't sound smooth to me. I mean
1. He wasn't given funds. We had to sell to buy.
2. We aren't in the peak of our spending
3. Apart from Calafiori, I doubt he got all the players he wanted.

𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐄𝐑𝐒: Net spend = - £1m

𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐎𝐌𝐈𝐍𝐆𝐒:

Raya - £27m
Setford - £1m
Calafiori - £42m
Merino - £31m
Neto - £0m
Sterling - £0m

Total = £101m

𝐎𝐔𝐓𝐆𝐎𝐈𝐍𝐆𝐒:

Biereth - £4m
Tavares - £9m
Lokonga - £0m
Smith-Rowe - £34m
Norton-Cuffy - £3m
Patino- £1m
Nketiah - £30m
Ramsdale - £25m
Nelson - £0m

Total = £102m

CyrusVI:
I dont get it

You are tryna justify a wrong with another wrong? Are you Igbos really like this?


That aside, who is that Man and where is the recording?


Amaka hosted a live session where she did all these and the link was out as soon as the space was on. this man u are talking about, when did he do his?

This guys are really taking this hatred darm too far! Cc @BayoAdedosu pls warn your yoruba friends and colleagues in Canada to stay away from this people especially those that work with them in their various offices pls! Be careful coz its now getting out of hand ! pic.twitter.com/Pu7FUy9e3h

— ogie (@marythesa) August 27, 2024

Part 2

Breaking News : Warning to Yorubas and Benin people . IGBos have come together to start poisoning Benin and Yoruba people Food because they hate them so much and want them gone

Warn your families !!!! 🚨🚨

“ The hate we have for Yoruba and Benin people “ igbo woman says pic.twitter.com/0Hov5ypnv9

— Nononsense (@NoNonsensezone) August 27, 2024

And if its not a live session like Amaka's own, then its hard to take that in as a fact. Amaka's case was diff...she was on a session and people were joining. in fact, the link was already on Twitter when the session was on, not like they released a random video after the session

So where did this man host his session? and whats his Username

Ssknce you are being objective, let's also call for the arrest of the Oba Of Lagos who threatened to drown Igbos in Lagos, and the First Lady, and MC Oluomo, what about the Lagospedia guy?

Afonjas are too numerous to mention.

iamoyindamola:
They play even arteta don't rate nelson
I will rather play maquinhos than playing nelson

What is keeping Nelson is his salary. And the fact that Arteta doesn't want to let him go for free being an academy player.

Jodera:
If both of them plays central midfield or Am, who does their attack still depends on?

I'm not saying they don't have same skillset cos they're similar (ie Odegaard and Bernardo). I just said, "who's the closest thing to their Kdb for us"?.

Odegaard doesn't need to have same skillset as Kdb in other to be "our Kdb" na

Ok I get your question clearly now as per the bolded. Odegaard is our main creative oulet same as KDB for Man City.

Shegzdave:
Thank you.

I also understand Arteta tactics but getting a real striker after Nketiah departure is necessary and it must be an upgrade, there’s a reason why Teta always have a real striker even if he rarely uses him.

There are some games where the opponent plays lowblock, this is where a real striker who is good with head and already proven is needed.

I hope Edu and Teta do what will Favour the team sha cause them must show workings this season

You are absolutely correct with the bolded. Let me add and mid-block defending too like we saw against Aston Villa, a quick striker would have gotten several 1 on 1 chances once he escapes the high line offside trap.

However, Arteta has other ways as I noticed how he broke that mid-block against Villa by overloading the midfield with Timber and Havertz while pushing Saka and Trossard higher

...... Trossard....... Saka..............
Rice........ Havertz...... Odegaard
....... Timber ....... Partey.............

Jodera:
Tbh, I've made my research before I came to that conclusion. First time I saw that under Ebl, I was surprised cos he's really someone I respect his work, but in this aspect I fully disagree with him

In midfield, all attack flows through prime Kdb for Man City not Bernardo
In midfield, all attack flows through Odegaard for us.

Statwise, they might be similar (perhaps in terms of assist or so) but if you delve deeper, you'll see that most expected assists(xA), chance creation, Key passes, Big chances created are all Odegaard's forte in Arsenal.

Who do you think has all those stats in Man City? It certainly won't be Bernardo.

In terms of dictating and breaking down low blocks for arsenal when things gets tight(like dropping into midfield and starting attack). We call on Odegaard. Same thing Kdb does when things gets tight.

I don't want to talk about their skillsets cos Odegaard and Kdb are different kind of players with different skillset but the mantle, leadership and role, both have been the go-to guys in this team.

Lol, lastly I saw your post earlier today about us benching Odegaard if we want to play Man City. It was funny and I just laughed then but now I understand cos you're really seeing him as our Bernardo, cos if you'd seen him as our Kdb, you'll know that will never be an option no matter how.

I understand your point but it depends.

Usually if Silva is playing central midfield KDB acts as the runner. Both of them are AM and can be related to Odegaard in skill set.

Shegzdave:
I mean how hard is that to see
We need a real striker and not some false 9, almost if not everyone on this thread had also agreed we need a good striker and someone is talking about comprehension issues

Some crosses into the box where we need a real striker to finish it off and Osihmen is a real striker also good with his head but we mustn’t sign him but some false 9 who isn’t always present in the box.

Arteta's pattern does not require a true striker.

That's why Nketiah became useless.

Personally I wish we could add a striker only of top quality.

But I also know that as far as our tactics are concerned, we won't need him.

I have said it here on several occasions when defending Havertz and Jesus that they are not playing as true strikers but you people refuse to listen to superior opinion.

BlueRayDick:
😂😂😂

It just reminded me of the campaign period when the speech renovators would’ve given 10 full scalp sheet explanation of Balablue , only for Bayo Onanuga and Keyamo to give a totally different explanation

APC na one chance political party. You will think you're a passenger until they fling you out of the bus. 😂

😂😂😂

Havertz- Space bender

Una nor go kee me for this thread 😂

Darwin Nunez

Nico Williams

Roland17:
Rival watch…
Liverpool have transitioned better than I thought under new coach Arne Slot. Arne has them playing some great football and has reestablished the value and priority of building plays through sustained possession in the midfield.

You're right bro

Slot is wise to maintain Klopps tactics and even improve the area perceived as weakness

But I'll like to see how the cope with a counter attacking team like Villa or a possession team

BlueRayDick:
Let martinelli come from bench first before u start postulating theories . He has started more matches and we’ve seen the result .

Let Trossard get his chance and let us see what he does with it. There’s no need defending Arteta when he has not given Trossard that chance and he bungled it

On second thought

It's possible for Trossard to start without risking his defensive output

We can focus on creating from the right with Saka and Odegaard and then allowing Trossard to drift from the left towards the centre as we saw in the goal

Then when out of possession, Rice can be the cover for the LB while either Havertz or Trossard himself can cover the middle spot

Goes back to what I said that it's all tactical

Cc Jodera, Davep

BlueRayDick:
U bold-faced said it is easier to score from the bench na. Why are they not topping the highest goal scorer chat since any striker coming from bench can score truck load of goals within 10 minutes na ? 😂

A player who is not as good can come from bench and score but when he starts he wouldn't cope again. This is common na.

Where I am going is that, Martinelli could have equally come from the bench and score twice against Villa. Both he and Trossard are good. But one is better starting and the other from bench.

BlueRayDick:
lolz .😂

U expect him to score more goals for Brighton than he scores for Arsenal ? Are u for real ? Is it not a sign that a player is a flop if he can’t score more goals for a higher quality team ?

No. But he started 32 games and scored 8 times for Brighton unlike when he started just 18 games and scored 12 times for Arsenal. Nite that mistbof those 12 were from the bench. Nit when he started.

BlueRayDick:
If this were to be true, then why is the highest goal scorer not filled with names of substitute attackers for each time ? 😒

Players with the highest goals per minutes ratio are majorly subs.

BlueRayDick:
Nelson is not closer to Trossard than Martinelli one bit. Take a look at the attached stats screenshot for all 3 players; let’s focus on 2023/24 which was our best season in years

Frame 1 is Nelson’s

Frame 2 is Trossard’s

Frame 3 is Martinelli’s

You don’t need a seer to tell u that Trossard’s place is on the pitch and not on the bench.

I already told u the tactical reason excuse does not fly cos Trossard does practically everything Martinelli does (and better sef)

First of all, if you want to compare style of play you should use heat maps not stats.

Secondly, take a look at Trossard 21/22 his best season for Brighton and 23/24 his best season for Arsenal. He scored more goals coming from the bench 16 out of 34 than when he started in 32 games. Tells the whole story.

It is easier to score coming from the bench than when starting.

It's more come from the bench and score within the last 10mins, than to score within the first 10mins.

The obvious reasons are because opposition defenses are down physically and mentally. They are out of ideas and are more prone to poor decision making-; wrong position, poor alertness, slow thinking and loss of concentration.

In the Euros, Fulkrug will come from bench and score for Germany, but Havertz was always preferable to start.

The same thing with Garnacho or MC Tominay for United.

That doesn't mean whoever starts cannot do the same things. Or who comes from bench is not good enough. It's just tactical.

BlueRayDick:
No now 🤦‍♂️

Saka and Nelson are two different players that do not relate with this situation at hand. Saka is 100% clear of Nelson; everyone knows Saka and Nelson are not equals irrespective of Nelson getting clutch goals .

On the other hand, you yourself had confirmed Trossard and Martinelli are two equally good players in their own right. Now what we are saying is Martinelli’s form is below par and we have a Trossard his equal that keeps getting the job done but languishing on the bench . Something has to give .

If Arteta continues to claim an out-of-form Martinelli on the pitch is the tactical requirement he needs to see this season through; I won’t be surprised to see Trossard dumping us for another big team by the next transfer window

If form is your issue then I have no arguments with that. However I stand on my tactical reason.

Please note that I didn't mention Saka at all especially in connection to Nelson. I mentioned Nelson because of last two seasons when he was coming from bench to score. Let's be honest, it's easier to score coming from the bench.

Nelson is closer to Trossard than to Martinelli. He is more useful when we dominate the opposition box and searching for a late goal. Apart from that he is not reliable in open play and transitions.

BlueRayDick:
Well, if he had performed his attacking duties right we wouldn’t have much defensive job to do in the game.

It’s not like Trossard always stroll when we are on the defensive side tho. I agree Martinelli always track back to our box when we lose possession but it’s not like he recovers the ball most times he does that. He just comes to support the defenders which Trossard and every other member of the team does as well.

That should not be enough to seal a place for him in the team when a more potent attacking threat is sitting on the bench

Both of them are good. Trust me. The little difference in their style of playing is what is keeping Martinelli on the starting lineup not because he is better.

Remember when Nelson was coming from bench and scoring? When he was given a starting chance what did he do?

Remember when Martinelli was coming from bench too? He started scoring also.

It's just tactical.

BlueRayDick:
The bold is incorrect . Go and watch the full match again. Everything u described here is what Trossard can equally do.


Throughout the match yesterday Martinelli didn’t take any man out 1v1, he had the ball several times and failed to transition it like u are crediting him for now.

When Trossard came on, he was doing exactly what u described Martinelli could do in this paragraph. He was bursting forward with the ball at his feet, running down the flank , creating chances and taking on his man 1v1. Except we watched different matches .

I am one of the biggest Martinelli Stan and I do really really like him for his energy and tenacity ; but as it stands it is criminal if he starts ahead of Trossard going forward .

Both of them can do what each other does. The question is who is better at each instance. My observation is that Martinelli is better with 1v1 situations, tracking back, ball to feet etc while Trossard is better at making runs, ball to space, positioning, finishing. That doesn't mean that the other is zero at those things.

Like I said, Martinelli starting is purely tactical from my view. Not because he is better. If Trossard can guarantee you as a coach a goal for each sub appearance, you will use it maximally. If we begin to start Trossard trust me he will fade off faster than Martinelli.

Also Martinelli can equally come from bench and score a goal. He is that good too.

What Arteta does for me doesn't look like starting who is better but rather a tactical plan.

BlueRayDick:
The tactical reason is not showing on the pitch one bit. We could’ve scored 2 to 3 goals in the first half if Trossard was on the pitch and Martinelli was on the bench .

Lucas Digne was really on Saka at the right side of attack and that made it imperative for us to channel our attacks through the left with Martinelli having cash to beat most of the times.

Martinelli just kept taking the wrong decisions over and over again thereby bungling our chances of getting a goal early in the match. It was frustrating watching him do absolutely nothing with the ball till he either gets dispossessed or over hit the ball in a bid to pass to another teammate .

Trossard on the other hand knew when to sprint, when to release a pass , when to shoot and when to attempt a shot.

If Villa had scored one or two goals , all those Martinelli’s underwhelming performance would’ve come back to bite us in the asss

You are right in your observation but this here is the reason Martinelli will always be preferred. I call it transitions... 👇🏾

Shegzdave:
Why I feel he’s starting ahead of trossard is cause he defend and trackback better than trossard