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SmooshCHN:
That's your personal problem not mine.

chic2pimp:
Didn't Kawhi already indicate that He does not really care about the Regular season when He said "I don't care about winning an MVP"? . It looks like He is simply just going through the motions and coasting. I can't say I blame Him tbh as He knows firsthand the Glory and accolades that comes with doing extremely well in the post season. King James should do likewise seeing as He actually does need the rest considering His age.

I know the Eastern Conference standings might have said otherwise but the Raptors really did have the Best Team in the East last season especially with the Addition of Kawhi. You basically swapped the Best Player of 50+ win team with a vastly superior player.

KarnBarlow:
KCPs case is not funny at all. The man needs spiritual healing, hes pissed off the death eaters.

KarnBarlow:
Nice to see Kuzma getting back in rhythm. Otherwise the warriors are literally the dubs now, as in free dub on your calendar. I wonder if eruditor will congratulate LeBron today...

KarnBarlow:
Assists, rebounds Steals Blocks. What the hell are those right?



No one is asking him to turn into steph or klay, just develop a respectable jump shot. He hasn't done that or even shown signs that its going to happen. What we are saying is until he does...



At least he played through the rest of the games and took his beating like a real man before revealing his injury. This one just feigned an injury and bolted LMAO!

Choose not to defer and do what? Chuck up shots and still lose? Hes never been afraid of deferring for the good of the team. He did the only thing he could, like you said his poor play. But its not about choking, its about him just not being good enough to play better than that. Its a lesson, he learned, he improved, he came back and he dominated.

A40:
But they faced him the very next season. On opening night! Why didn't they stop him??

Nobody said the Mavs didn't try to stop him, don't be ridiculous. We are saying he also inhibited himself with his play and his mentality. Nobody has accused Giannis of choking but the world is unanimous about LeNomad's chokejob

Giannis dropped from 27pts to 22pts

LeNomad dropped from 26.7pts to 17.8pts

You mean the Mavericks defense was so good a two time MVP surrounded with two all-stars and a deep bench held Bron to 10pts below his average all by themselves?

A40:
The improvement was minimal. LeNomad has never been an elite shooter outside 3ft and the stats I posted encompass both post and perimeter play.

Don't overhype this thing.

3ft to 10ft shooting

2010/2011 - 45%
2011/2012 - 46%
2012/2013 - 45%

3pt shooting in the playoffs
2010/2011 - 35%
2011/2012 - 25%
2012/2013 - 37%

Where was this new improved post up play when he was being outplayed by goddamn Danny Green Games 1-3 of the 2013 Finals?


We're only 9 games in. Why not wait till 20 at least, plus he's still averaging almost 30 a game so it's not like he is being stopped

Last year was Giannis's first significant playoff run. He is taking his lumps


Yes it was a chokejob. LeNomad will not be the first sporting great to choke. I don't know why you lot are being sensitive about this.

How can a player drop 10 whole points from his average in a series and you're telling me it was not a chokejob. Are you hearing yourself at all?

A40:
Giannis lack of shooting was a problem but not the only problem. He was not Ben Simmons level bad. And unless you expect him to be Steph Curry then I don't know how much improvement you expect him to make

KarnBarlow:
James harden was a no. 3 pick, SOTY winner and was 23 years old. Theres nothing outrageous about saying with more time and consistency he could become an MVP caliber player. Maybe far fetched. but not outrageous.



Just one season where he was healthy and you felt he should've won over 40 but didnt. Just one.


Your hegoat led his team to 40 wins averaging 37 points. He obviously under performed.

A40:
Plus physical plus basketball. They are intertwined. LeNomad was in his 8th year in the league with two MVPs and a Finals appearance previously so you cannot say he was not in his prime whether physical or basketball. Stop this your unnecessary argument it's tedious

A40:
You can win MVP and still underperform at critical junctures. Basketball considers your all-round team success as well as your individual contributions. You will observe that two of the years he made All-NBA first team were the years he led his team to over 40 wins. To achieve that feat just 2 times in 7 years is underperformance

A40:
When was LeNomad's physical prime? Just because you choke away a series does not mean you're not in your physical prime. He was almost 27 years

Against the Bulls and the Celtics that same postseason he averaged 26 and 28ppg respectively. 27pts for regular season.

He simply choked in the Finals!! Don't tell me any megedefegede about a two time MVP approaching 27 not in his prime

KarnBarlow:
Looking at the Lakers fixtures it's safe to say that they're going on another streak. I'd rest both bron and AD against the warriors though.

A40:
I don't know why you lot took that statement personal and to heart, he even backtracked eventually.

I took it up because the NBA is littered with players that didn't get to the league with as much fanfare as AD but were able to make it work and become a force in the league (Giannis, Harden) when they were on the come up I'm sure suggesting they could reach the levels of the marquee players in the league would have been laughable at the time.

I put it to you that AD underperformed at New Orleans. They only ever topped 40 wins twice in his stay there. He wasn't even rookie of the year and only managed a paltry 13ppg which was poor for a #1 pick

When they beat the Blazers, Jrue Holiday averaged 28pts per game and played stellar D on Lillard, not forgetting Mirotic averaging 18pts Don't come and paint the picture of AD doing it all on his own, nothing could be further from the truth. They were overmatched by the Warriors obviously but Holiday put decent numbers too

A40:
I won't blame their failures entirely on him but what was his ceiling at New Orleans? Who will suggest Giannis didn't meet it last year?

Of course AD and Giannis are different with different types of skillset but just because AD's style is more aesthetically pleasing does not make Giannis any less effective

This notion that anybody can never be as good as AD is what I don't want to hear.

chic2pimp:
Beat which Raptors? AD ain't winning nothing with Khash and Bledsoe as His sidekicks. Or are we not talking about the same AD that was missing playoffs on the regs whilst with His previous team? This constant overrating of what AD can do needs to stop until we see concrete proof otherwise. A Timmy Duncan or a Dirk would have most probably taken that Bucks team past Raptors but AD, nah I'm not buying that.

A40:
Why not let the season unfold and stop pre-ejacing. So if LeNomad at the peak of his physical prime could shit the bed then why is Giannis not allowed a bad series?

You think LeNomad's game was not improved enough to do better than 17pts per game in a Finals series?

What was Steph's weakness when he choked in the 2016 Finals?

A40:
This is very inaccurate. With all due respect.

Giannis has had 3 All-star caliber seasons. He's always been the better passer and defender as well


This is not an argument about who has had the better career so bringing the year they entered the league is completely unrelated to the argument

For Siakam we are saying he can get to AD's level over time. We are not saying he is as good now.


Lool you think Kawhi won't clamp AD? Lool


The same AD that only made the playoffs twice in NOLA? Abeggi

Didn't Brad Stevens wall the paint? Didn't Giannis still destroy the Celts and his strategy? It's a pity Giannis had to share the court with mediocre guards like Eric Bledsoe

Kyrie had a shittier postseason but nobody is talking about how we can game plan for him

stylessamson:
Really, quick question, all through Anthony Davis 7 years with the Pelicans, where he made all star what was his PPG average
incase you don't know, he did not average as much points as Giannis in the last 2 years