₦airaland Forum

jesusson2020:
Here you just thinking stupid, the laborer work does it come every day? Why not quit Uber and go do bricklayer.

And also 3k you're paid is in some site, from there you will pay transport and eat.

But with Uber I dont enter danfo. I drive luxury car with Ac, still eat fufu with egusi with 2 meat, after all this I still have 3k.
I have drink Fanta and bread and am tired of it, God will never take me back there, in Jesus name amen.

Na your papa dey think stupid.
Corolla luxury car? Smh

dru23:
I wanted to give you a nice meme reply... but I stop.. This is it bro if the uber partners are expecting full benefits, insurance etc .. They are all smoking the strongest weed made available, you know weed is legal in some states now .. Now back to the matter uber will not give them benefits at all ,in a way the relationship between uber and partners/ driver is more like sub contract.. Uber gets a job via their app and than gives the job to drivers at a certain rate.. So do now want them to provide benefits to them ? I think you must have misunderstood the strike.. What they are fighting for is better price and lower commission.. What is the difference between uber and cab owners in the USA .. Not much o .. Should the cab driver be asking for benefits from cab owners? Uber drivers / partner work at their own time and work as much or as little as they want .. For any company to provide benefits you have to be full time employee.. If they are not happy they should either quit or do Lyft ,which is uber competitor... not by force. Those that are making it are making.. Just like in business u learn to adapt or adjust. I have that does uber in the USA ,he does not mind it .he does when he feels like and works out well for him

Read up here

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/3/12/18261755/uber-driver-classification-lawsuit-settlement-20-million

dru23:
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Better to quit than get toss around.. That is what I will do .... If I don't like my place of work ,I just look for something else ..complaining will not solve anything

I respect your views man, but it's safe to say our perspective of life is like north and south. Very different.

I've already diversified my business and if everything goes as planned, I'll definitely post something here about it.

This doesn't mean I still can't invest in uber if the conditions can be better.

dru23:
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As long as uber is in Nigeria. And the Nigerian government does not kick them out .. Uber will continue to be number 1 in Nigeria. Or better yet unless we Nigerians as a whole start to religiously patronise local apps like ogataxi etc .. They will be no alternative to uber ..

What about forcing uber to adjust through industrial action? They don't have to leave, that's not the objective. But until drivers say NO, we will keep getting tossed around.

Stealth100:
Bro there is no emotion or sentiments in business. If ogataxi want to go mainstream, they need to position themselves better and invest more. For now, they are just doing copy and paste. Uber invested heavily on promo, bonuses for drivers and riders, referral bonus etc. If ogataxi put in half the effort, they will get a large share of the market as well.
And people and naija govt buy innosson. Abi how else have they stayed in business for about four years now?

In other words, if uber leaves they will be adequately replaced by others.

dru23:
You miss my point.. Nigerians will not patronise each other. They feel they too smart, like at OGATAXI .. How many of you guys patronise them? This is a local business ,maybe if people decides to patronise ogataxi, uber will sit up and do better and make it competing for everyone to enjoy... what about ivonson car manufacture company ? How many of you guys buy their cars? Even Ghana and other countries buy from them

Bro there is no emotion or sentiments in business. If ogataxi want to go mainstream, they need to position themselves better and invest more. For now, they are just doing copy and paste. Uber invested heavily on promo, bonuses for drivers and riders, referral bonus etc. If ogataxi put in half the effort, they will get a large share of the market as well.
And people and naija govt buy innosson. Abi how else have they stayed in business for about four years now?

jesusson2020:
I have good records for the past 5 months no single dent, same car. I love this car as if it's mine.

I only do Uber meaning I can't drive more than 12 hours a day. So tell me how I'm killing owners car.

What am I trying to explain to the frustrated men here is.

Car owner invest millions to buy a car, me I brought nothing but my phone and energy. And I make 3k, car owner make 5k.my own 3k I take it home and use it for myself only. Car owner will still bring his 5k back for fixing. Who should be more frustrated? Of course car owner.

But the Gentlelife50 and Co feel they are more frustrated.

I read about oga dru23, how he struggle after initial investment, then came back replan. And now doing much better.

God will deliver all of you... from Gentlelife50, pope191 Xneg, Stealth100, Tyche, darmilolah, mrsage, Chuwaa, eherbal, QuitNotice.

For Stealth100 that advise me to remain a laborer. My broda let me tell you my target.

I'm a future pastor, this is the part God reveal to me to follow. If I can achieve my own car via Uber leave the rest for God.

Please forget about buying your own car first. I think you should build a church or rent a shop and start a church instead. It pays better, trust me.
Now I see why logic doesn't appeal to you.
Good luck man.

dru23:
What is the difference between them and graduates out their with no job . What about bank manager? Where is the personal growth there? How much are they making ... if you want any personal growth, start a business or grow a business.. Own something. .. To me that is personal growth.. To work for a company for the rest of a person life is not personal growth.. But we can't all be business owners. But at least we can own something to pass down to our children

I kinda like the new dru. With all due respect bro, you sound even wiser now.

A bank manager with all that experience can easily get a job abroad and travel out. Same as our doctors and engineers.
What can someone with 5years uber driving experience do with it? That's what I mean by personal growth.

Also, a real graduate can easily get a teaching job while he/she search for a better one. Teachers earn real good now, with extra lesson income after school hours. And with enough time to read and further your studies if you desire. And the experience of a teaching job can always boost your CV. Again, what do you do with ehailing experience? A smart and brilliant graduate will hardly be jobless. But we all know the quality of graduates we produce in 9ja.

dru23:
Well in that case ,maybe you should trade places with the guy that makes 10k a month. At the end of the day ,if uber decides to park up ,that will be at least give or take 2k jobs lost .. So what will now happen? If I decide to create my own app now like uber with better price and uber standard. Will you now patronise me ? Even the oil that I am selling, I market it to you and said you go buy, that was over two years ago .. Now my point is that Nigerians feel that they know too much and they can't make another man rich ontop their own money.. Nigerians hate to see other Nigerians grow ... ..that been said I respectfully and aggressively disagree with your point.

Because I'm yet to patronize your oil, doesn't mean I never will. Just that someone currently sells at a walking distance from me. Abi you will do free delivery?

dru23:
Well in that case ,maybe you should trade places with the guy that makes 10k a month. At the end of the day ,if uber decides to park up ,that will be at least give or take 2k jobs lost .. So would now happen?

I can't trade places with the guy earning 10k, that was me when I was 17yrs old doing phone call business. How he ended up earning 10k/month is his sole responsibility.

The ehailing industry is well established in Nigeria already. People are so accustomed to it especially the riders. There will be more than enough alternatives to uber, they will not even be missed one bit.

maclatunji:
It is not making a profit globally actually. What is keeping it going is additional capital from investors it keeps raising.

And have you checked uber's ultimate goal? To develop driverless cars that will eliminate the need for them to partner with car owners/drivers. In other words, to eliminate drivers completely.

So the current model is just a means to an end. Drivers in America know this and the basis of their last strike was for them to be made full time employees of uber with health and retirement benefits instead of just partners, since uber sets all the condition.

The result of the protest and lawsuit? Uber committed $20million in bonus and special packages for their drivers in America just so they can go PLC.

Even this does not assure there will be no further law suits challenging their business model. In 9ja, we are sleeping hard. Even the slightest request, we can not make from these companies when we have so much collective power.

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Okay, so I just walked up to a site labourer at Ajah and asked how much they earn daily. Guess what? 3k.

So if this guy leaves his labourer work that let's him take home 3k for uber that gives the same or slightly higher take home, is he wise or foolish?

Personally, I would stay on the labourer job and learn from the bricklayers how to build properly, maybe in two years I could graduate from labourer to bricklayer.

Driving uber for two years stagnates your personal growth for two years. No valuable skill learned for two years, no reasonable experience gathered in two years. No real prospect for growth even if you save 3k/day.

Just me thinking out loud sha.

maclatunji:
You guys should stop the fights. There is always something to learn and a way to improve your business.

Improvement doesn't exist in some people's dictionary. Uber can never be more profitable than it is already.

dru23:
Lots of people are getting 10k naira a month salary .. I was shocked and sad ... so trust me uber drivers are doing ok bro..

Trust me bro, uber drivers are not doing okay. 90% of all drivers I've had all live below poverty line. But we all smile at each other and suffer in silence.

jesusson2020:
this job is not executive job, is not job that we suppose to see graduate doing, but our economy situation is bad, many site engineers, (pope191, Xneg) 300million naira oil And gas sector are relegated to.

So for people like me going home with minimum of 3k every day is enough, afterall my boss go home with 5k every day and when repair come, I call him to bring back that 5k.

If the job gives you mental quit so u won't fall into depression like formal ABA business man Gentlelife50.

Oloriburuku ni bobo yi mehn *sigh*

lollyboy:
You are hoping a hundred thousand plus people loose their jobs or a means of putting food on their tables?
I fear you sir..

dru23:
In that bloody hot sun bro ... I think an uber driver is better off..

I thought the focus is on the daily take home, not the stress/working conditions.

jesusson2020:
Go and hawk, it seems hawking makes money than Uber

I've paid my dues. Stay away from my mentions b!tch

Williams004:
Thanks but the truth is I had to borrow to raise that amount and its not even complete yet. My problem is money and I don't want to drive rentals cuz I'm working too.

Thanks

Chairman you're rushing. Please don't rush.

dru23:
Those 10 partners do not speak for all the partners on uber/bolt .. The only regret I have is hiring a crazy, bleaching, stealing manager.. But it is part of the learning curve, when you are new in a business, people will take advantage of you..
Let the young man enjoy doing what he is doing.. Uber is for young guys out there ... I support him and at least he is not robbing people out there... now if uber is slavery what do think about those people hawking stuff on the hot sun everyday, how much do you think those guys are making... am sure guys like that if given the chance to do uber.. They will jump at it with no problem ... I will rather be doing uber than hawking stuff under the hot .. Let the young man do him...

You would be surprised. Ask around.

lollyboy:
Very valid point there..
I feel the complain is actually to discourage upcoming drivers and partners which is obviously a failure..
Jesusson2020 came out to do the opposite and that's why most people practically hate his guts so its just the way black people thinks
Even though I have not seen anything wrong about what the young man is saying I see a lot of likes when he gets insulted or advised..
So here is my opinion
A lot of you try to make a valid point buy saying you will ignore, he is not matured, life will get to him and all..
All of this na for your pocket and just an opinion of yours..
Then you guys make his point of being frustrated valid by mentioning his family and future after every comment..
Smh
I see no need for all of these because an innocent hard working man aired his opinion
Regards

It's like you just joined this thread. That guy came with guns blazing. Very similar to the two before him, they insult everyone that have contrary opinion to theirs.

fxjones:
I have carefully follow this thread, all I could say, the only reasonable person I have seen is jesusson2020, who is positive about his new found job, what baffles me most is this, all those complaining about ehailing, if its not paying why not simply quit instead of complaining here. Nigerians na wa for us

Going by this your warped logic, those uber drivers that not only complained but also downed tools and protested last week in the U.S. should have just QUIT instead of complaining/protesting right?
The NLC should've just QUIT their jobs if the minimum wage was no longer sustainable to them instead of shutting down the whole country abi? Well done sir.

NOTE: Most of us "complaining" here even make more than this bricklayer, if we begin post earnings here he go hide. But money on your dashboard does not equal money in your pocket. If you know you know.

izzou:
Its called ride sharing but we changed the narrative here in Nigeria. That's why Gazzuzz insists that it was rentals was never designed for it which is true

The aim was to share rides. But will a driver who's supposed to deliver 30k be fine with just two trips in a day? Let's work with reality

Corollas and camrys are littered everywhere and we still struggle for requests despite the horrible #500 minimum. And we still believe that if the fares are increased even by 2%, we will be fine?

Make we dey realistic Abeg

Whether the rate is increased or not, we will still struggle for request. But grossing 7-10k a day would be easier. What it means is that you probably spend more time online but less time driving.
Besides, anyone that can afford to spend 500 on a short trip can as well afford 700naira. Same for someone spending 3200 can also afford 3600. We are not talking about outrageous increase. Just 20% maybe.

izzou:
So the question is: Are more riders on the platform now than before? Or is it the same number of riders that are still on the platform?

I'm not saying they fares are fair, but increasing will reduce riders...

If the fares are this low, and we complain of low requests, what happens when it's increased? Look at it from another angle sir

This thing is called ride sharing for a reason. Not all of us want to drive all day and pick 10 riders before we make something reasonable. If na two trips at a reasonable price, then fine. Going by the logic of the business, nobody would share their rides with the current rate.

izzou:
Quick question: If the fares were increased, would you still consider taking it? Or would you drive?

Ask yourself this question...The people who take uber to work, how were they going to that same work before uber came to Nigeria?

Festac to VI is #2000 to #2300. Raise it to #4000 and see those riders vanish. The ridiculously low fares is what is keeping uber, drivers and partners in business

People requesting for rides at the airport: Are airport cabs not convenient? Why are they requesting uber then?

This is so off point. Prices were never 4000 from festac to VI. Why should it be now? That's not the kind of increase we are talking about. Maybe 20-25% increase from what we have now. Festac to VI should not be less than 3k.

jesusson2020:
In your village 22years old don't go to school? Until they turn 30.

In your village 22 still suck their mama breast.

The guy darmilolah claim wat he has achieved, I won't achieve it in 10 years.

Then checking his history I see he want to sell a dead civic for 400k, and was actually on rental.

When I say a lot of drivers have overstayed in the business, I know what I'm saying.

An educated 22years old in my village/lineage don't carry pon pon at different construction sites. Animal!!

jesusson2020:
My broda, I won't be part of the people they will deceive, I am not ready to loose this car that is serving me, I have a target to achieve in 1 year six months.

Same thing Romeo3 and Fahrenz said before they disappeared

jesusson2020:
America is not Nigeria, this country is a survival ground.

I won't ever support any Uber driver union, the road transport union, you see what they doing to drivers? They only enrich Mc oluomo and Co, there is no single benefit a driver will get, rather they force you to pay every bus stop you pack.

As it stand Uber is a good stepping stone to most young guys, not a frustrated ground for backward people, who wants to take Uber as retirement ground.

A 22 years old bricklayer/labourer writes posh like this?

GAZZUZZ:
I get 2 sides

The very blunt side is what I dread. NO means NO

izzou:
Make you no kill me with laugh abeg

What if na you finally surrender?

Only then will I let go of the money. But it's either you pay me the right fare or I beat you till you pay or you beat me till I give up the money. Shikena!

But in two years, the thing has happened to me just once. The ladies were telling me they will pay what the app showed. I looked back and asked them with a straight face "do you really want to take a cab from lekki to ikeja for 500naira?"
The agitation on my face was uncontrollable mehn, I could see the instant fear on their faces as well. They did the estimate and I was paid according to the estimate on Taxify not Lite as I was driving a 2007 Camry then.

PS: Never lock your phone while on a trip on taxify.

Pashim:
If it was uber I trust I will be refunded but since na taxify I go count my loss

Count your loss? Did you hear yourself? I'm angry on your behalf sef. That rider will pay me the estimated fare or we fight till one of us surrender.
500naira? What nonsense!!