sonnie10:


There is a growing middle class in most developing economies and they are the targeted customers.
Although the modal population are youth below 40 years, most of them are poor and unemployed.
If we were living in a socialist country, then the idea of affordable housing would work. But developers are business people following the money. They are not building for the masses, they are building for those you have money to buy.
People should be allowed freedom to make decisions based on personal circumstances. These growing middle class, young single people would always insist on bigger spaces because they can afford them and because it’s a better investment.

Yansham:


How did you go about the appeal process?

Badgers14:


I have not completed building approval in lagos myself.

But I wonder why someone residing abroad would tender his tax documents for building approval in Nigeria??

Is it cheaper that way??

The reason I asked is even if an individual paid $100k in taxes in US or £70k in taxes in the UK. There's no way building approval authorities will be hitting back flips and clapping for you...
Although it seems that what they are doing is trying to generate revenue for their respective states but they don't really care about taxation laws.. they all want to be paid in the end.

Matter of fact, even if you bring in income tax receipts from a different state, the state you are building on will still tell you ehn ehn.... You paid taxes in different state, the tax we need is the receipts of the ones you paid in the state you are seeking the building approval from
( this happened to me).

This is one of the many reasons why individuals resort to "any means" to overcome this burden and get their building plans approved because even if you try to do right , they still say you are wrong. Damn you if you do, damn you if you don't.

Why would someone pay taxes in 2 different states from one income?? It defies common sense but that's the way it they think it should be

But the bigger part of it is with the loose privacy laws in Nigeria, someone Turning in their foreign tax documents with their information 'might' be opening themselves up for things they didn't bargain for.

Also, jealous folks in that office will be saying ehn ehn... hin wan show us say hin dey live abroad etc... and they will see the abroadian as ATM or make life unnecessarily hard for them.

Hargbo:
Does anyone knows the process and cost of getting this in Lagos state

somehow:


Very annoying.

Only 500k was reduced from what I eventually paid plus the 3 years tax certificates I tendered.

Was also told to write the LIRS chairman.

This country gives you more reason to just pack up and leave for good.

somehow:


A tax officer told me that the building tax in Lagos is dependent on the location and structure just as I said before.

Confirmed from 2 other officers from different tax offices in Lagos, afterall they had nothing to gain from me, so why would they say something not true?

I will stop here though and let others that went through similar situation share their experience.

Happy Sunday to us all.

somehow:
Finally got my building approval since last year.

Would have been out since September last year but the tax Lasg leveled on me eh..

EgunMogaji2:


Do you mind sharing some names? I don't mind paying a premium because of convenience.

Thanks.

EgunMogaji2:


I finally went to Abbey Lincoln and picked up some generic kitchen cabinet handles.

I wish we had iKea in Nigeria.

topsy23:


Try to meet with their leader and negotiate with him . I witness one around gbagada area , they demanded for 1.5m but later paid them 700k

mountmoriah:
one million is a way too much, I think u should call the community head and tell him after fulfilling all the require documentation with them and government, you are not liable to give them any money, but you only want to dash them something and you specific what you have to give them, also inform their family head that there is a law in Lagos state that ban any exhortation from land owner or developer, expect you don't have your family receipt, you don't sign deed of assignments with them (the family) and you don't process your documents with government like having your registered survey, c of o, and your building approval, if you have all of this documents, if they try you too much just surprise them with the men in kaki, they will negotiate with u with like N200k or N300k they won't want to loose outrightly.

Nothing will happen afterwards they will only be saying either your friends or brothers are in the military, after all you are still going to be friends.

I'm saying this base on experience, if you are shaking for them they shake you to the ground, stand your ground, and those Lagos state government touts too will come with one of two document from local government, just give them something, sign and collect the document from them, your engineer could handle that for you, because if they know you are the owner of the construction they will be asking you owo odun.

bixton:



How many Nigerians do you think would want to really actually literally live in a prefabricated home even if you make it free?

n3xt:



I've lay low on this though.

Even the FG with all concessions and everything cannot build a low cost 2 bedroom house in Nigeria with N5m. A lot of things are easier said than done.

Ogun gov is paying over N2.5m for the foundation of 2 units of 2 flats (direct labour). When you factor in the cost of the land, the shell, the finishing (no matter how cheap you decide to go), the external works (septic tank, tank tower, borehole, fencing. gate etc). You'd understand N5m is nothing when you're considering habitable house in Nigeria.

The elites always underestimate the earning power of the half-educated folks.. so we often assume they're not making anything. Even my bricklayers have more than N5m house.


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Let me just give you ideas of what it costs to build an average house in Nigeria

Do you think anyone can spend anything less than the amount below to achieve a livable house in this age? If yes, kindly remove items you think are unnecessarily expensive from the list.

Land - 500k
Foundation - 700k
Shell - 750k
Roof - 550k
Ceiling - 200k
Windows - 350k
Doors - 200k
Plastering - 400k
Bathroom/Plumbing - 250k
Kitchen - 100k
Flooring - 200k
Electrical - 200k
Septic tank - 200k
Water - 100k
Fence - 200k
Gate - 50k

BuildingProject:
Hello all,

I need your advise on this. There is this building I just secured. I paid the lady 90% of the money and she said she won't release the documents if payments are not completed, so I rallied round and I completed all the payment. And she signed the deed of agreement and every other documents needed.

Now here is the problem. I just discovered there is a tenant in the building and I was told the rent is due in June /July this year. How do I go about evacuating the tenant since am not the one that collected the rent from him and the building is sold already.

n3xt:
@steve30

You asked for it. N450 per block, Lagos NG.

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Me I’m only interest in the mould design.

n3xt:
@stevo30

n3xt:


I agree with your submission but I believe we can adapt this roofing style into our climate.

There’s rockwool and many other insulation materials out there to explore.

Will it be easy to make a flat roof maintenance free? No!

Is it possible? Yes!

If a countryblike Columbia can have flat roofs, I’m not sure it’s be a big deal in a country like ours.
Come to think of it, it has only rained 7 or 8 times this year.

A proper install will keep the waters away.

On noise, every roof make noise except concrete slab, polystyrene slab, terra-cotta tiles, and Nigerite roofing which one of my client explored in 2016.

Focusmind:


Sure. Natural stones and bricks anytime for me. Get those Abeokuta/Ondo stones, break them to different pieces and sizes and get a good baba Lati to finish the work. You would like the natural feel of the building. Note also that those stones are not cheap except if you are residing within the SW states.

If you have access to those stones and they come cheap to you, you may decide to cover a greater percentage of the wall areas with stones. The feel will be everlasting - come rain, come shine, it remaineth the same.

Natural stones and bricks will always make your building to stand out. Whoever passes your street will always take a second look at the building.

n3xt:
@Egunmogaji2

I really love the Adekunle Fajuyi Cenotaph captured in the shot.

Thanks for sharing with us this evening.

n3xt:


Incredible conversion of an 1860’s Venetian Gothic style water tower by Arc Restoration

https://onekindesign.com/2013/05/14/incredible-conversion-of-venetian-style-water-tower/

I’m thinking of doing this on Bower’s Tower, Ibadan

davodyguy:


You pay tax to the government of the state where the property is located

If you're investing in Kano and you reside in Nnewi, you'll pay tax to Kano State Government, apart from the one you paid to Anambra State Government

davodyguy:

Since you currently may not have a 'registered title' now, you'll need to get a survey plan of the land registered at the office of the Surveyor General, with beacon numbers showing, then hand the survey plan to your architect to prepare a drawing.

If it's a bungalow, you don't need a structural drawing, but for two floor building, you need a structural drawing.

You also need a soil test report. This is to tell you the kind of foundation you need.

Take all these documents to the LASPPPA office in your Local Government. They would prepare an assessment for you.

Assessment is done based on the gross floor area of your proposed building.

Less say your gross floor area is 300sqm, this size is multiplied by a rate of construction to arrive at assessed value.

The value in the assessment is what you'll pay.

You pay one to LASPPPA and another one to LABSCA called stage certification.

The part that out most developers is the tax clearance.

The minimum tax that LIRS will demand from any developer even in Ikorodu, Epe, Alagbado etc is ₦750,000 and if it's like Ikoyi, Lekki, VI, the developer can be asked to pay as much as ₦5million as tax clearance before you can be granted approval.

To LIRS, anything that makes you want to build means you must be rich. Hence, they ask for minimum of ₦750,000 from you, even if your land cost you ₦100,000

Give or take, the minimum to pay would be close to ₦1million.

How long does it take? It can take between 30 days to almost forever.

This is Nigeria, I must not talk too much

spyder880:
Which do you prefer?

One4me:


We have discussed this issue before.
The fact that a Professional body issued a price guideline, does not mean that is what Customers will pay or you should charge a Customer.
It is like when the Pepper Grinder Association just wakeup one day and raise dthe price of grinding Pepper to #100, no matter how small it is.
Smart Pepper grinders recognise that if you charge too much as your association suggested, you wont get customers and you will still have to pay Association fees but the smart ones will look at your Pepper and say, 'Okay, it is small, l will take #50 for this' and before youknow it, theyhave made a lot of money while the ones still insisting on Association price, are still yawning and waiting for their first customer.

I had a similar issue with my Welder.
He said their 'Association has said anytime they go to weld anything in a Customers compound, they must charge a minimum of #5,000, no matter how small it is. Because he has been working with me for awhile, he came to do the work (just to use fire cut a Padlock that we misplaced the key. One other welder who overheard our discussion when l said l will only pay #2,000, went to report him and their Chairman came to carry his Welding Machine, just infornt of my house, as the guy was about to leave.
Well, l ensured the Chariman and his assistant got locked up and chargedfor stealing. Apart from bailing themselves, they also paid for the fiancial loss' suffered by the Welder. Now that is an extreme case, l just dont like their overbearing attitude and l was determined to remind them that joining a Union is voluntary, by law. They have left him alone since them.
Unionism should not be solely to extort the Client, all fees should be reasonable.

There are Surveyors who are smart and will do a Plot for less than #400K, l know a few and it is genuine (that is the bargaining excuse they greedy ones use, they scare the customer that if it is cheaper than what their Union prescribed, it wont be registered at Alausa! Bullsheeet). I have used them twice in the last two years.
The person requiring a Surveyor can send me a PM and l will give him numbers of Smart Surveyors who will do it for #300K/Plot.
If you ask these #400K Surveyors why it is #400K, their best defense is That is what the Institute Prescribed or that is the standard fee!
Who says it is the Standard fee and what right do they have, to impose such exhorbitant price on Clients?