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jaephoenix:
I'm not stupid, neither are the other readers. Probably you think many are. Your god is supposedly omniscient, knew his evil creations(including the devil) would harm us, but still created them.
The human creators dont have omniscient powers and don't know how devastating their creations would be

If people thought I was truly wrong they would have come to point it out.

But they are exactly in your position and there is no way any reasonable person can deny that there is no way that the creators of guns, cars, sniper insecticide did not know that these things can cause death which is why they even put a warning/caution labels on them.

So need repeating yourself, this has been answered.

IyfeNamikaze:
There's nothing like different levels of sin. Paul who persecuted Christians, sending them to their deaths was still chosen by Christ to spread his gospel and it was through Paul that the gospel of Christ was able to reach far and wide. Today we call him "saint Paul".

Abomination of the flesh which is what homosexuality is can and will be forgiven if they seek for forgiveness.

Paul thought he was working for God already.

But an homosexual is doing exactly what God Said "do not do" which If Paul had found any of them in those days, he would have had them prosecuted and judged too.

So there is no place where you can say that they are like Paul for he too would have had them stoned if he found them. So you are wrong.

kingxsamz:
Lol, more ramblings.
Take your meds bro.

Exactly what you are doing. Your Madness is already permanent.

Stepout23:
You have a right to your opinion, but I don’t agree that school is a sham. Education opens doors, and while it may not guarantee success, it gives people the knowledge and skills to create opportunities. Many successful people, including those in tech, started with formal education before moving into specialized skills like coding. The real issue is how people use what they learn.
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Yet many graduates are walking around jobless and struggling to eat and doing jobs that they can do even without going to school. Please.

cornelboy:
Okay ser
I only believe in what Jesus and the inspired Apostles taught.

Only the Father is the one God there's

No Trinitarian says He is not.

All I think they are saying is that we should note that The LORD is also "our God".

By JW analysis also, Angels too are gods.

And the bible also shows that men are gods too. So what is the problem?

cornelboy:
Lol anyhow. If you don't get my point, no p.

Your point was that you were saying Islam religion is not bad whereas the facts show that it is.

kingxsamz:
"Never draw first blood".
Why your sky daddy con dey encourage others to kill their own family members na? 😂 Or didn't you see the verse I posted?
The same way you justify your god's tyranny, that's the same way Muslims justify theirs.
Even you have prayed for atheists to die horribly countless times on Nairaland.
Madman, rest abeg. 😂

The fact that you have no answer to The Law of "Never draw first blood" already proves that it is justified.

But no Muslim anywhere is able to justify their act which is why you see that they do not even try to defend it whenever it comes up. They just run away.
So you are just talking your usual nonsense and repeating yourself because you are a Mad person.

buchidinho:
Don't say that!!!

we all are sinners and we're slaves to those sins.
the only difference is the type of sin you are enslaved in commiting .

same for homosexuals.
If you despite ur sins are allowed to enter the church ,why not allow the homosexuals too.

See how sinners do not want to be called and identified as ISIS, Boko haram or ritualist, murderer etc that clearly tells you that there are depths of sins which people may reach and enter and others will tell them "you are on your own oo. I no follow go there do that one" and will not want to be associated with you and painted with the same brush.

Birds of the same feather flock together, so like Lot separated himself from the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, because of these same abomination, so should people who have sense run from them make Angel no make mistake burn them join when Dem come.

Stepout23:
I see your point, but willingness and ability often influence each other. Many people might not afford a Kia or Hyundai today, but that doesn't mean they won't in the future. The same applies to skills, investing in knowledge now increases earning potential later. When kids learn to code, they’re not just acquiring a hobby; they’re gaining a skill that could make them more 'able to pay' in the future.
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And this is where I am pointing out that you would be flying on a mere hope. And we all know how hope is as proven by the fact that this was the same promises they told us when they were promoting school. And you can see it has turned out to be a sham.

But anyway, skill is skill and one should not say that it is wasteful to acquire a skill.

harbimbholar:
[it is so laugable ,that people are trying to hard to conceal something that is very irritating ßto the eyes as homosexuality,what is the difference btw homo and homosexuality
because of this God ruined a whole city,or are you telling us ,that it is a clean spirit to be sleeping with same sex?
if you are so nice to a gay,he will start to develop stupid and obsessive feelings,in the best interest of the church,they should be cast out without any remorse,God's love is strict,non compromising but eclverlastingquote author=StillDtruth post=134241787]I say, it is right to throw them out.

God can never accept abominations

Maybe if it is confirmed that they have cleaned up. And that is still a maybe.

Exactly. Brother. They don't want to be told the blatant Truth

SeraphicWind:
You people should learn not to be radicals always. If not, nothing separates you from radical Islamic Jihadists. This is why I will love the Catholic church till eternity. You protestants condemn a lot even when our Lord Jesus Christ told us not to condemn not even our enemies but to love them.

My initial post does not in any way tolerate, promote or support homosexuality.

The nutshell of my post is this; Sinners are different from sins. Sinners should not be sent out of the church. Sins should be sent out.

Homosexuals should not be sent out of the Church. Homosexuality should be sent out.

If you people are in the deliverance ministry, this would have been easy to understand.]

A lie is a lie even if everyone accepts it. The truth is the truth even if no one accepts it. David Stevens

Most people really don't want the Truth. They just want constant reassurance about what they want to be True. Ray Allen.

Notwithstanding

In A Time of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth is A Revolutionary Act. George Orwell

cornelboy:
What did the inspired Apostles and early church see?

They would only see the things that they have seen and reported. And note theirs is individual.

But we are seeing everything together as a big whole, so it is natural for concepts to be born like monotheism, polytheism, individuality, trinity etc.

All these are just collective pronouns men came up with

cornelboy:
Painful truth about what ser, that God is Trinity?

Jesus and the early Christians only believe in ONE GOD.

Did you hear me mention Trinity?

kingxsamz:
Lol, ramblings of a mad man.

Says the madman who came to ramble when no one called him.

One-day you go waka and your Muslim brother go slash your neck send you to hellfire.

kingxsamz:
Maybe their god is unhappy with the fact that those Christians are worshipping a false god, so he had to teach them a lesson. This is something your god would approve. So you don't need to cry.
Your god even encouraged others to kiII their own family members for preaching to them about other gods. So 🤫

He can never approve it for it is the Universal Law, "never draw first blood" else the victim has a right to destroy and annihilate you like US did to Japan.

And now you have moved post to another topic, and yet you think you are sane. Abeg waka carry the evil and curse wey dey follow you waka.

cornelboy:
Lol.
Your first paragraph is unnecessary. And so you know, I think for myself. Not a zombie.

You made it expedient. See how you suddenly attacked me, even using something that is not within the scope of the thread, not to talk of the fact that I never said such a thing.

That would surely make me inquired into your state of mind.

cornelboy:
The fact that the Catholics were claiming Christianity yet they were committing evil doesn't mean that Christianity itself is bad or not the true religion.

That is the point of my other threads https://www.nairaland.com/8347687/it-roman-catholics-pagans-ruled and https://www.nairaland.com/8347711/roman-catholic-hated-christians-how

And the whole world has examined the Christian doctrines and they can all see that it is Good.

So no one says that Christianity is bad rather it is Christianity that saved the whole world in a lot of ways eg abolition of slavery and inequality.

"While the glory and benefits of the Roman empire are often highlighted, especially through surviving art forms, there was poverty and intense levels of inequality due to the strict hierarchical system set by Augustus. Christianity was appealing to many members of the lower classes in the Roman empire not only because of its promised liberation from any afflictions encountered in this world but also because of the established community that was totally equal, regardless of social class or gender, through baptismal promise, as highlighted in the letters of the Apostle Paul (Koester 1998).

But this should have been put in the relevant threads

cornelboy:
Same with Islam. Cos they have history of violence and stuffs doesn't necessarily make their religion wrong.

This is not true. The world has been hearing the ideas and principles of Islam and every generation that hears them is impailed by them.

And their story of murder and violence is always tied to their Islamic principles, so you are Lying.

kingxsamz:
I don't care about the issue here but you, a known mad man calling another person mad is just funny.

Clearly you are talking to yourself. Stupid MadSamz

Neither did anyone call you to care especially when everyone knows that you are A Mad person. So no one is shocked to hear the mad stupid things you say.

And thank you for proving that atheists and Muslims are on the same side, so when they kill you, you people ought not to complain.

kingxsamz:
Maybe they were only following a directive from their god just like your bible god ordered the massacre of little chiIdren. 🤔

Samz, you should be tired of being stupid for did you not see that those devils first attacked Isreal and killed them including their children like Hamas has done? So why would they not destroy them and their children?

gohf:
and yet in the same Hebrews you read hebs 2:7-9 Jesus was made lower than the angels

Thereby proving that Jesus is not an Angel atop the fact that the bible even qualified it explaining that it was
"for the suffering of death".

Which clearly is in reference to when Jesus came down and became a man; even a baby.

No Angel ever did that. They came with their greatness and superiority over man.

And this is where you see another difference between an Angel and Jesus Christ.

For all the Angels who came declined and prevented man from honouring and worshipping them.

Whereas, Jesus, received the worship and honour and bowing of men.

So, you have only come to affirm that jws are Lying!!!

mariovito:
Your father is the devil since you can't pass your points across without name calling.

Now to the subject,

Who says discipline is only religion based?

Even animals discipline their offsprings in their own way.

I know you are referring to the spare the rod and spoil the child mantra.

While I'm not totally in support of it, I am still not totally against it.

What I am against is parents and people in authority using it as a means to vent their frustrations and transferring their aggression.

Do you know that there are more effective ways of discipline and correction that does not have to do with flogging or beating up a child?

Any atheist or rational thinking human who has to follow any laid down rules or corporately agreed convention without first finding out if it suits his situation is not different in any way from the blind religious followers. I was not present at any convention where it was agreed by atheists or anyone else that children should not be punished but rather left to be whatever they wish. So Sir, this is you projecting your ideas on me and that I WILL NOT ACCEPT!

Your name is atheists, and to call your name is allowed so, being who you are, it is only you and your kind who have Devil as their father.

Secondly, I am not taking about solving the problem via discipline, no I am saying that since you people destroyed the basis of morals with your atheism, then it is right that you all should eat the evil fruits of your works. That is all.

I was only amazed to see you atheist complaining about lack of morals. It was very very laugh filling 😁😁😁

Gabrielshow24:
Finally, I got the definition I wanted from you.
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Your definition of Angel!!!
Basically all humans and spirits are/can be angels😊.

Including that "evil spirit from the Lord" 🤔 - that must have been an Angel!!!

I just love this guy🤤

Ooh ooh! You too caught the fall in his attempt to defend their Lies.

We can all see now that Jws are also antichrists and to even see that Paul too met them and had countered them here with this scripture.

Janosky:

Stop deceiving yourself and showcase your ignorance..

An angel is any Minister (human or spirit being) sent by Yahweh to perform an assignment.
Psalms 103:20&John 3:16 is the assignment Yahweh sent Jesus Christ to perform.
Your fellow Trinitarians devotees knows this truth.

LYING church goers deceiving themselves.

See Lying JW has come to change the post using the Lies of half truth.

The topic is not define an Angel (and even at that, by your definition therefore, it means servants of men too are angels because they too are ministering spirits since man too is a spirit). Do you see how you people are Lying exactly how Satan Lied to female Adam?)

But right here, Hebrews 1:4 openly and undisputably declares that you people are Lying as you say Jesus is Angel.

Lovelyflower:
you are no God Mr man. You are a sinner too maybe you should be thrown out too.
Learn to impact positively to people who you feel different from.
Jesus did not throw the prostituting woman even she is yet to repent. He accepted her and made her change her way. As a Christian, you don't wait for people to change before you accept them for who they are, but rather you help them change if you feel you are all perfect yourself.

My impact is to tell you the painful Truth.

And Jesus did not immediately accept her person. It was Simon's bad behaviour in addition to her appearance of repentance that made Jesus grant her forgiveness with a Commandment that she shall "sin no more".

But, you and I know that homosexuals in addition to the fact that there sin is death, are not even repenting not to talk of "sinning no more", so, they are not worthy of salvation.

IyfeNamikaze:
By this then no church door should ever be open to anyone including the pastors because everyone is a sinner!

Christ did not discriminate against anyone, he walked with prostitutes, ate with fornicators, thieves and liers, welcomed a condemned robber into heaven and chose his persecutor as the chief propagator of his teachings.

Homosexuality is a sin just like every other sin. And Christ didn't come for the righteous, he came for the sinners, preventing these sinners from accessing the teaching of Christ is an even bigger sin than homosexuality.

It does not work.

Even amongst you, you have different levels of sins ranging with different punishments ranging from those to which you can be pardoned for from those which you can never be forgiven.

The word abomination and sentencing to death isn't there for nothing.

uniquelyspecial:
FYI:
Look closely, one of your close and loved family member is homosexual.

Still no difference.

See Witch wants to suck the life and blessings of virgins so that she can be young like Ned Nwoko

No 6) The scribes and Pharisees

MaxInDHouse:
Are your parents "MAD"?

Are you not Mad for repeating yourself?

MaxInDHouse:
Because many religionists should be of that opinion if they don't believe what your parents believe!

Is it not Madness to even think to ask the stupid question knowing that it is stupid, since you are old like a grown ups parent?

Even an ss 2 student knows that difference in opinion is not Madness, but that Madness is seen in how a person thinks and speaks.

Or are you that Mad that you do not know what Madness is? (Of which it is indeed proof of madness when you, an adult making communication like this, pretends not to know what Madness is)

MaxInDHouse:
So if you can't address your parents as "MAD" and you don't know whether the commentator is older than your parents it's the same as calling your parents "MAD" when you keep saying it without sense!

I told you if olders speak like mad people, younger ones will insalt and embarrass them and call them mad.

And you are not older than I am.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you always address your parents as "MAD" each time they say what is contrary to your beliefs?

You are not my parents and neither do they speak nor think like Mad people, if not younger ones will insalt them in every lawful way.

Even without going on further we can all see that Hebrews 1:4 Proves Jws are Lying and blaspheming when they say Jesus Christ, is an Angel.

So you see even in Paul's time devils were already trying to be little Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 1: 4

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.