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Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 11:57am On Sep 03, 2024
Onyedikachi231:
So malachi 3:10 is part of our Lord's commandments?
See yourself. I said Exodus /Deuteronomy, you now dodged it and said malachi grin

Of which the parable in Mathew 21:34-40 already tells you that Malachi is one of those sent before The Son. Sorry, No Road grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:49am On Sep 03, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
John 3:16 " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life"

John 8:42 " If God really were your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and now I am here. I did not come on my own authority, but he sent me ".

Do you understand the concept of the Holy Trinity?
Now we are not talking trinity but The seperation of powers/division of powers between God Most High and His Son, The LORD.

And from Genesis 2 to Revelation we see The LORD exercising jurisdiction over us, as declared in Mathew 28:18

And John 1, John 20:28 and others shows that Jesus is The LORD, "our God".

Which is why He sometimes Said "keep My Commandments" John 14:15 .

And for those looking who do not understand that Christ is The LORD, and He Who gave Moses The Commandments or who pretend not to understand this and therefore sought for a different commandment, He Said "if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Mathew 19:17
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:44am On Sep 03, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
No that was Yahweh, God Almighty, but Christ was with him and has always been.

If you read John 17;10-11 " All I have is yours, and all you have is mine; and my glory is shown through them. And now I am coming to you; I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world. Holy Father! Keep them safe by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one just as you and I are one".
This is part of the prayer that Christ prayed to God the Father for the safety of His disciples just before He was arrested. The full prayer is in John 17; 5-26 , read it.
I can see that the concept of the Holy Trinity is what's difficult for you to grasp and you're getting confused because of it.
Even though Christ and God are One, Christ is under God but he is not lesser than God.
Now we are not talking trinity but The seperation of powers/division of powers between God Most High and His Son, The LORD.

And from Genesis 2 to Revelation we see The LORD exercising jurisdiction over us, as declared in Mathew 28:18

And John 1, John 20:28 and others shows that Jesus is The LORD, "our God".

Which is why He sometimes Said "keep My Commandments" John 14:15 .

and for those looking who do not understand that Christ is The LORD, and He Who gave Moses The Commandments or who pretend not to understand this and therefore sought for a different commandment, He Said "if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Mathew 19:17
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 5:16am On Sep 03, 2024
Onyedikachi231:
He is Lord, and I just gave you the commandments he gave now, there is no tithe in it, did your fake scamming lunatic pastor invent tithe to feed so that hunger no go kpai the guy man?
So Exodus 22:29/Deuteronomy 14:22 are not part of The Commandments The Lord gave?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 5:10am On Sep 03, 2024
Onyedikachi231:
This is part of the laws given to moses, hope you are keeping all or hypocritically jumping to the tithe section so that you can feed?
Do we not already do these things sometimes? Anyway, off point.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 9:11pm On Sep 02, 2024
miketayo:
quote the verse
No i won't.

The value is in you seeing it for yourself and seeing how it came about and maybe you will also see why it is there.

But, you need to see where The Commandments starts and see where it ends.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Mary Give Birth After The Birth Of Jesus Christ ? by StillDtruth: 9:02pm On Sep 02, 2024
btoks:
Also, the knew her not until in it's use in Greek (Matt 1: 25) at the time does not indicate what happened afterwards. Matthew's main concern was to clarify Joseph had no hand in the conception. Through sacred tradition, it is known Mary remained a virgin in marriage.
Exactly!

The "until" is very very clear and understandable.

But how can "until" be stretched to mean "perpetual"? Who does that!

So imagine, when the bible Said Exodus 12:10 Do not leave any of it until morning" it means they could keep the manna forever?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 8:59pm On Sep 02, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
It is not. Tithing was not a Christian Law it was a Judaic Law ( the Laws of Moses) which bounds the Hebrews with the covenant God made with them.
Is it not Christ Who gave The Law to Moses?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Mary Give Birth After The Birth Of Jesus Christ ? by StillDtruth: 8:55pm On Sep 02, 2024
Ubenedictus:
I think you have a problem with English language.
The verse you quoted is refering to Jesus.

"Is he (Jesus) not the carpenter's son? Is his(Jesus) mother not Mary?

The passage identified Mary as the mother of Jesus! It doesn't claim Mary is the mother of any other person!

It says Mary is the mother of Jesus and that Jesus has other relatives, but nowhere does it say that Mary is the mothers of those relatives.
And the passage immediately drew attention to his his brothers and named them

Of which It would not make any sense why Mathew would name Jesus's cousins because the whole of Istreal including Mathew are His Cousins. And we have even argued that which saw you land on Clopas which i pointed out that Simon and Judas are not in your Clopas's lineage.

So which lie are you going to spin now to hang simon and judas and co on?


And besides, if they were cousins, the bible told us as it did for Clopas and Elizabeth, so, no road here.

So do.you have any other place to hang the lies your church created?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Mary Give Birth After The Birth Of Jesus Christ ? by StillDtruth:
Ubenedictus:
This is how I know if I'm talking to a honest person.

if I give birth to a child today and I'm a Jew in 1st century Israel, will I go and dedicate the child as my first born or will I wait to have a second born before dedicating him?
The question is not hard to answer for someone who is honest.
You are the one being fraudulent here. No one asks you about the dedication of your child who may be the only child or he might have siblings.

And do we count the number of children a couple has at the beginning?

Is it not when the couple stopped birthing after passage of time that we count if they had only one child or 2 or 12?

And you know this is so but because you are being deceitfull, you therefore pretend not to know and go and check to see whether Mary had other children especially as The Commandment was just only for the period of time she was carrying The Holy Child.


The issue is even you, do not go around and call your only child, first born.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Conversation With A Catholic by StillDtruth: 8:29pm On Sep 02, 2024
Ubenedictus:
I honestly hate dishonest people.

This was your question

Does it mean God did not hear our prayers for mercy? (at the begining of the mass or during the mass or the one just before the communion is given)

This was my response

the bible actually says [b]God does not hear the prayers of sinners. That is why the Catholic church will tell you that the penitential rite is for minor failings like venial sin and for venial sin you should use the sacrament of confession.

However if you have perfect contrition for all your sins then the word of God applies "A broken and contrite heart o God you will not spurn". In such a case all your sins are forgiven even at the penitential rite.[/b]

Now tell me what part of the response you didn't understand
And my response was "off point" i just broke my responses to point out the fact that i read through your answer and it did not address the question.

We all know that God will not answer sinners which is why we pray for mercy and forgiveness at the beginning and during the mass which leads to the question 1) "Does it mean God did not hear our prayers for mercy? (at the begining of the mass or during the mass or the one just before the communion is given) which you did not answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 8:20pm On Sep 02, 2024
Onyedikachi231:
Are we still talking of Christ Jesus?
We term ourselves Christians, meaning we follow Christ, please show me the verse in the bible where Jesus or his apostles directed us to pay 1/10th of our money or belongings to one condemn man of god?

Very simple something.
Is Christ Jesus not The Lord?

If so, go see Who gave The Commandments!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 8:18pm On Sep 02, 2024
miketayo:
Number what? I didn't see it
Don't cut The Commandments, read from where it starts to where you see it or where it stops
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
Yes I understand what it says.
"The word was in the world, and though God made the world through Him, yet the world did not recognise Him. He came to His own country but His own people did not receive Him".
It simply means that Christ is the living word of God. It is through the power of that Word the all things visible and invisible were created. The Word expresses the Mind and Will of God. Christ is the word of God made flesh, He and God are One because He's the expression of God's Thought.
Therefore, God!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 8:16pm On Sep 02, 2024
DeOTR:
You can give your money to whoever pleases you for whatever reason, but please, stop misleading people that non-payment of tithe will take one to hellfire. It's outright falsehood.
The only commandments you can disobey and will lead you to hell are the moral commandments, which is what we know as the God's 10 commandments.
The book of revelation mentions that those who will be saved are the ones keeping the Faith of Jesus. I don't see where giving a tenth of your earnings to some random individuals calling themselves pastors come into play here. You can't buy your way to heaven. Same way paying tithe won't make you rich God is not a bookie. You can't stake a tenth of what you earned in anticipation of getting it back in multi fold. God doesn't need your money. The people that need it to survive are the ones asking you for it.
Jesus didn't pay it, and he didn't take it. I wonder why someone would be preaching that and still himself a Christian.
Pay tithe all you want, you'll still perish if you don't keep God's 10 commandments, most importantly the ones you people love to explain away, the Sabbath. That's the only reason why almost all of you will perish, because it's the only law that shows who exactly you worship.
As it is today, y'all are worshipping the devil.
1) Is it not moral to obey God's Command?

2) i have also put it to you, is it only The Commandment of tithe that people disobey?

3) And see it. If you read The Law you would see that tithe is not given to people.

See, it is clear you would not be obeying God's Command here, but you would be doing as Satan telling others not to obey God.

It is not Moses or pastor or i who issued The Commandment, it is God, so if you like obey.

But the bible clearly shows that Jesus Himself ordered that "if you must get eternal life, keep The Commandments"
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:27pm On Sep 02, 2024
DeOTR:
I believe you read the verses you were trying to quote very well? If you did, you should know which law he was talking about
If you had read The Law you would have seen that Christ was citing The Law.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:25pm On Sep 02, 2024
effort1:
Since peter, Paul and any of the apostles didn't pay tithe, it means they're also going to hell fire, right?

In your stupidity, you couldn't reason this out, but allowed business men like oyedepo and adeboye to deceive you.
Did you see them earn?

Secondly, i pay tithe because God commanded it and not because those thieves in pulpit say so.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:23pm On Sep 02, 2024
legendsofthesee:
which Law are you talking about?

Oh I forgot, your own religion doesn't care about famine, war, kick against abortion, abuse young altar boys while the pope turn blind eyes. Oh I forgot, your own Papa adeboye already promised you the most belleful amongst the peasant.

You incorrigible dimwit! You just dey wurugbon lenu
See frustrated soul. Continue to dey hala, your belle go still dey empty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 7:15pm On Sep 02, 2024
Onyedikachi231:
And his commandments are what and what apart


He [Jesus] said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the greatest and first commandment. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

— Matthew 22:35–40


Please, show me where there is tithe?
Is this not one of the several Laws in The Commandments?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:58pm On Sep 01, 2024
femicyrus:
So where is the place of the 2nd death?
Revelation 20:14 and 22:8?
Second death is the Condemnation that comes after God judges the case of all men and angels both dead or alive on the Day Gis Court is Convened!
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:53pm On Sep 01, 2024
TEYA:
Oh! So you mean the Exodus you were quoting, you yourself did not take time to read it? 🤣 Oya go and read it then answer your question.
See it, you can't answer, now that i have answered your question on fruit😆
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:50pm On Sep 01, 2024
femicyrus:
Jesus went to hell after his dead not lake of fire
Yep hell is grave

But i said hell fire and lake of fire are the same place.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:49pm On Sep 01, 2024
femicyrus:
You still don't get it,
Anger precedes violence then murder
Christ was telling us ahead of the implications of anger
Good you caught all the elements of sins and condemnation.

Now is why you would understand why it is written "Be ye angry, and sin not:" Ephesians 4:26
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:46pm On Sep 01, 2024
Lamasta:
Oya tell me the origin with reference
Investigae and see.why did they call them christians and see how far back the first christian can be found
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:42pm On Sep 01, 2024
Lamasta:
They were first called christian in antioch don't be arguing blindly abeg, too much of prosperity gospel will not finish Una...
That is not the origin of Christian. That is when the word "christian" began to be used on people who behave like these people hereinafter called christians.

For, they were already christians before that day.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:41pm On Sep 01, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
Not paying tithe is not disobedience to God as a Christian.
Most of you are just ignorant, tithing was part of the laws and commandments God gave to the people of Israel to signify that they were in a Covenant with God!
You are so focused on tithe but non of you observe the festival of the unleavened bread that's held for seven days on the month of Abib, being the month that the Israelites left Egypt. You don't offer your first born male domestic animals to God. ....
Is this not contradictory?

Secondly, the topic is tithe, so avoid fallacious arguments.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:38pm On Sep 01, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
Oya quote the full bible verse let's all look at it.
Everyone has google na, so they can check and revert
Christianity Etc › Re: Why A Private Jet Is Necessary For General Overseers by StillDtruth: 6:36pm On Sep 01, 2024
Hussein035:
The Day tithes of 10% will be removed from Christianity I am 100% sure that nobody will tell us God called him

The millions that flows into some pastors/church account monthly in Nigeria is more than annual revenue of some states like ekiti, imo, yobe etc
grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:34pm On Sep 01, 2024
IyfeNamikaze:
The Lord in the old testament is Yahweh, the Almighty. It is He who sent Christ to the world. It is He who announced in Matthew 3; 17 " This is my own dear Son, with whom I am well pleased".
Then you did learn what John 1 especially verse 10/11 Said.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:31pm On Sep 01, 2024
Lamasta:
Nothing like christian in the old testament
That is because you do not know the origin of Christianity
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:30pm On Sep 01, 2024
Redhot111:
Tithe mongers with their uncivilized attitude. Can't you just make ur statement without throwing insults. Or are you pained because more people are gradually coming out of your tithe scam zone?
If you had read the threads you would have seen when and why i called him mad.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will None Tithers Go To Hell? by StillDtruth: 6:28pm On Sep 01, 2024
whytediamond:
You must be mad yourself for talking with a mad man and typing all those epistles just to deviate from his sensible question to you.

You start by saying he is mad - not the first time by the way - and you still could not defend your statement by providing answers.

Who then is mad between you two? Sunday Christian already calling people names just to sound intelligent.
It is clear you are mad if not you would have seen how it started or at least check to see and when and why i called him mad, if indeed you were normal.

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