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legendsofthesee:
why do you resort to yabbis and violence? Its either you're a pastor or you fend from collecting people's money under some useless fictious rules & regulations...which has no business in the Operations of the real world!.

These are the issues with you religious folks, regardlessof your level of education, You lack common sense! even when its clearly pointed out, you still argue shamelessly.

The current situation & happenings of the world including war,famine inflicted by the Powers that be, yet you still think some Jesus is coming to save you., religion has managed to wipe off your logical sense of reasoning and make you an adult pay another man's bills in the name of tithe and offering and curse anyone who questions it.

Light up the matchstick and set ablaze another human for some imaginary God and heaven. Yall are sick!

miketayo:
And is tithe in among the commandments?

drsibz66:
You right bro... 1 thing I know is that even jesus was in this day and have money for private jet, he won't buy but rather give the money to the poor.

If Jesus was on earth today, he won't use church money to build a school in his name and put the school fees so expensive that the church members who contributed to the course can even send their children to the school... FACTS.

If jesus was on earth today he won't be storing or accumulating wealth on earth in his family name FACTS.

eseelvis:
There no need putting words to fullish people like you.

Ezmans:
what is hell

btoks:
Unfortunately Matthew 13:55-56 doesn't prove these were Mary's children. Trust me, these arguments would have been brought up at the council. The fact that this matter had to go to council just like the Acts 15 matter, meant that some were questioning or deviating from church sacred tradition. The council decided, I believe them over any modern interpretations, Catholics/ Eastern Orthodox cannot reject this teaching.

DeOTR:
No where in the Bible is non-payment of tithe is the loss of your soul.
Tithe is not even a relevant law for Christians.
As Christians, we are supposed to follow and do as Jesus. Jesus never paid tithe and he never talked about. Wherever Jesus is silent, you're not mandated to do it.
I'd rather take my money and give to people who actually need it for survival, rather than give someone who has private jets and luxury cars.
You'll never see God if you'd rather pay tithe to your pastor a[b]nd abandon your neighbors who needed the money to feed.[/b]

cyphaAhmed:
I really do not know how you come to be a follower of Christ with all these tendencies to insult other folks. Reconsider the way of the cross and have a genuine repentance. You are really not doing the body of Christ any good here.

DeOTR:
The actual word transliterated as hell itself means grave, so whatyasay?

seuncyrus:
How can a "tithing believer" be talking like this simply because someone opposed your views. Nawa for una performative Christians sha. At the end of the day, everybody just dey pick and choose wetin suit am sha .

DeOTR:
The last time I checked, tithing is not parts of the law Christ was talking about.

btoks:
This issue has been decided as far back as year 553 by the 2nd Council of Constantinople. Mary was a perpetual Virgin.

Please think of the implications of Mary having other children, not in 2024 but in the 1st century AD before anything was even recorded. How exactly could you prove Jesus' exclusive divinity if there were others who were born through the same womb? How exactly could it be proven that Mary conceived Lord Jesus as a virgin if she gave birth to others.

There is more to reading the scriptures with 2024 eyes and the fact is early christianity believed in Mary's perpetual virginity and affirmed by the 2nd Council of Constantinople. I'll urge you to read the acts from this council. Those who reject this are to be anamethised.

Catholic Church beliefs are not based on Sola Scriptura but on the 3 legs of Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium. Christianity has been like this from day 1: example - Acts 15.

maestroferddi:
There is no argument here, my brother...

The point I am trying to make is that it behoves a Christian to observe moderation and restraint in speech and conduct.

Obedience to God includes saying things that will minister grace to the hearers...Calling someone a madman just because he disagrees with your viewpoint does allign with how a good christian should conduct themselves.

Just take the correction and lets move on...

Incrediblekutty:
With this, you have committed another sin by going against another God's instruction which says you shouldn't judge and condemn. You should just look away after paying your tithe without interested in what it's used for. You have contradicted yourself by claiming non tithers are sinners because they go against God's commandments whereas you are doing same. That is hypocrisy

femicyrus:
Read verse 23 to 26
The hell fire in that context is figurative of the consequences of anger that may lead you to prison which is also figurative of hell.
Not the same hell that unbelievers will go after death.

BeigJawnson:
Are you now saying that those pastors stole the church money to buy private jets?

Yes or no?

And again, who are those people you're talking about?

femicyrus:
Who does?
Levites or your pastors?

femicyrus:
There is nothing like hell fire to start with.
It already shows your shallow understanding of the scripture.
There is hell and there is lake of fire which is the final destination of hell.

femicyrus:
No, you are wrong.
God don't spend or eat your tithe for ...

BeigJawnson:
Private boat or chariot? Hahahahaha I can't laugh. In other words, I can't equate our Lord Jesus Christ to ordinary men.

I earlier said it that our Lord has no home yet He wasn't poor... He had nothing to Himself yet poverty wasn't His...

Mind you a bible verse tells me that "My God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in glory. As for me, I no serve a poverty God.

Pastors can have private jets, after all they are general overseers and not a local assembly pastors... Sense for tell you that one. And these men of God started their ministries with humble beginnings...

If a local assembly pastor owns a private jet, it is questionable. Cos what does he need it for?

Do you know what they call general overseer of a church that has been existing for decades?

They own this private jets not for luxurious life style but not to be delayed at airport or missed a flight...

Do you know that not only Nigerian Pastors own private jets... American pastors too own private jet. I mean top pastors...
I await your reply on this.

obailala:
What kind of agbero Christianity is this one practicing by insulting and abusing everyone on the thread with opposing views?

No offence but you sound like a very bitter ex-pastorpreneur whose church business folded up cos your members refused to pay tithes.

Bennycollins:
Is that what you reply to your teacher when he asks you a question?

BeigJawnson:
You talk like a baby...

Even during the time of Jesus Christ, did you read any thing poverty about Him?

JESUS CHRIST THAT I KNOW, LIVED A LUXURIOUS LIFE BUT ONE THING ABOUT HIM WAS THAT HE HAD NO PLACE TO CALL HOME ...

BUT WITH THAT BABA LIVED A LIFE OF LUXURY... HIS CLOTHES WERE NOT TORN, NEITHER HIS SANDALS GOT BROKEN. INFACT BABA RODE ON A DONKEY THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER RODE. INFACT WHEN HE DIED, HE WAS BURIED IN A TOMB MADE LUXURIOUSLY FOR A WEALTHY MAN BUT HE WAS BURIED THERE...


You are there talking about in the time of Jesus Christ, as if in the time of Jesus Christ there was private jet. If there were private jets during Baba's time, He will fly in it...

femicyrus:
What are the commandments that Christ asked believers to keep?
1. Love God
2. Love your neighbor

Where is tithe in all of These?

SEGLIZ:
even you will become a thief on the pulpit if the opportunity presents itself.

go check them most of those things are gift from people like you that value their existence or has benefited of Jesus Christ through them.

you critics of pastors always claim they steal the tithes that is meant for the Church. NO, to be emphatic. the tithes is meant for them and no one else, according to God instructions.

I will like make known that there are those that are not called by God but just saw religion (being system without a strong regulatory) as a way of making quick money.

still genuine men of God deserves good things of life like you and I.

Onyedikachi231:
Simple thing you are running around like testicles, show us a Verse in the bible where Christ instructed christians to pay 1/10th of their resources to the pastor?

TEYA:
Did that verse ask you to give money? Did you give God your firstborn?

Zenderr:
Why are you not giving first born of your sons?

maestroferddi:
Righteousness means exhibiting the fruits of the spirit (Gal 5: 22-23) especially temperance and meekness.

If you live by these virtues, you will not be too keen to brand someone a madman or a snake because the spirit will give an understanding to moderate your speech knowing that you only know in parts...

The man you are condemning because of the limits of your understanding/knowledge might, after all, be right...

oluwaseyi0:
That verse clearly says you must: You must give God the firstborn of your sons yet you ignored that part

AareGaa:
So you think someone like you can make Heaven with the way you talk to people?

biina:
The equivalent of a private jet in the bible was a chariot. Chariots were the top level mode of transport for Kings and the like.

Let us now ask, how many men of God in the bible rode on chariots while doing the work of God?

With all the private jets, which of these 'men of God' has a ministry that has been more fruitful for the kingdom of God than the ministry of Paul, who never rode on a chariot to do work of God? Same Paul that these same 'men of God' are often using just some of his mere letters as bedrocks for preaching the gospel

If you want to have a private jet, you can, but (in my opinion) that it is simply a desire of the flesh (like having a luxury car or fine clothing) and one should not use God as an excuse for it.

Much more has been done for the kingdom without private jets nor chariots.