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Interesting video about the quick rise of Gift Orban

andrewbaba44:
The Warey is still scoring and have still average 1 goal in every 2 games since joining juve

Sure, but since joining Juve, he's not been as prolific as he used to be and fans are saying it's because of Juve's style of play. My point is that it's the same thing some people say about Osimhen and Napoli but it's easily taken as sentimental because he's Nigerian. Just wanted to point out the similarities. I'm not saying the opinion is valid Sha. Just pointing it out.

I've seen this type of comment several times on Twitter and I wonder if guys here will show the same energy as when similar coments are made about Osimhen's performance.

https://twitter.com/juve_canal/status/1521176844585914369?t=scrupou57FCFJ-G5_LawTA&s=19

komekn:
Dude I spend a lot of time in coaching.

And from what I have seen if you haven't developed technical ability, sublime skill with outstanding first touch before you are 16/17 it's very infact almost impossible to develop after that.

I have seen this in academies across Europe.

Three weeks ago I was in Gran Canaria looking at the Santander La Liga Promises tournament. And even at U13 level you can see a lot of promise.

That's why Liverpool could pay £1.8 million for a 14 year old Raheem from QPR.

He can definitely improve on positional play , anticipation and timing as well as control his temper.

Hmm! Well I guess he can make the best use of what he has

TheLoneCitizen:
Dessers, one of the most complete strikers this decade.

Extremely underrated!

komekn:
Osimhen is not technically astute and that's almost impossible to teach once you pass 16/17.

He doesn't have the technicality for that kind of sublime touch.

I still think he can improve though. Perhaps the players around him (if they're top to tier) can rub off on him

TheLoneCitizen:
Good technique is not a necessary attribute of a striker. Lukaku has extremely poor technique but won Inter the title.

Only Mane can rival Firmino in terms of technique among Liverpool forwards, but man is third-choice striker.

Haaland's on-the-ball technique is not half as good as Iheanacho and man is extremely clumsy but with movement alone, he is what he is today.

I have never seen Osimhen make a curved run before to beat offside trap or make a darting run when a technical footballer like Fabian Ruiz has the ball in midfield or even a blind side run.

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say, but I didn't say you must have good technique to be a striker. What I said is I believe Osimhen improving technically will put him past Tammy.
Firmino's technique is what gives him a fighting chance among the best forwards in the premier league. Iheanacho doesn't have the speed and aggression of some other players, yet he is able to hold his own among the top strikers in the league. That is my point.

komekn:
Many will not like to consider these facts.

I have said before Victor O has a determination and rage that I've not seen in any player,he is relentless in his pursuit has speed and aerial ability.

On the other hand Tega has outstanding technical ability, skill and football intelligence as well as speed. We dont always associate speed with Tega because he brings so much more.

Who is faster is open to debate, Aggression is definitely with Victor O .

I think the only thing Osimhen needs to be clear of Tammy is the technicality. At the moment, Tammy trumps Victor in that aspect and that is what gives him the edge. There's only so much speed and aggression can do for you (and I think Victor has more speed). A highly technical player will make up for that deficit with cerebral play.

andrewbaba44:
Yes he came from the championship

He is a good player ,he wouldn’t have played at the championship if not because Bournemouth was relegated

Imagine Dennis is relegated with Watford, plays a season in the championship and then goes to a Sevilla or Valencia and performs well. Will it be accurate to say "he came from the championship" when in actual fact he passed through the championship?

TheGoodJoe:

Many of you guys have a fault of paying attention. Those pictures you are showing is after the contact with the ball. His body is not in contact with the ball in those pictures. The picture I showed you was where the contact happened.

Then you go to display pictures after the contact. Please, foul happens when the player contacts the ball. This angle I showed, shows clearly when Rodri made contact with the ball and there was no conclusive evidence of handball for Rodri.

Finito.

The image you're showing seems to contradict what you're saying. This contact is nowhere near his chest and I can clearly see his shoulder and it's distinct shape and the shadow it casts. How can that ball be said to be touching anywhere but his arm?

komekn:
I watched his performance for the SE in the AFCON so even if he played for Bayern Munich or Manchester City.

My opinion would be the same he was an embarrassment to the SE, and was extremely poor in the AFCON. Because he scored a tap in doesn't all of a sudden make him Drogba. Everything about his centre forward play for such a big man was abysmal.

Try somebody else.

Ovie has been injured with a groin injury for months and has just returned under new Manager Paul Ince. I am not sure what the comparison is. Ejaria prior to injury was an outstanding player in the Championship and still is.

Finally, Segundo division and Championship are miles apart. And unless the financial inducement is considerably higher many player's opt to stay in the Championship for instance Ayew was on £83k a week in Swansea.

The other difference is Sadiq has had 4/5 seasons in first tier leagues but was anonymous and unable to progress. He has dropped to a much lower and less competitive league and now a Lion in the Segundo division.

He is outstanding in this league but then is this his level and can he produce the same level of progression in La Liga ? We will soon find out hopefully as his team seem well positioned to get to La Liga.

You need to understand what prejudice and bias means. You think he is great ,I think he is poor, that's not prejudice or bias. You have low expectations I have higher, very simple.

His performance in club and league got him selected to the SE. But his performances in the AFCON should get him deselected.

Thankfully we have Dennis, Ighalo and Victor O he is not needed.

Baba, me I'm not arguing with you how good a player he is o. I'm just pointing out the double standard and basically the kettle that calls the pot black. Plus, it's convenient to make these excuses for Ovie but not Osimhen, huh?

Like I said, I'm just pointing out.

komekn:
In all honesty whether he goes to La Liga or stays in the Segundo division he is simply not good enough for the SE, IMO.

Your club form gets you selected into the SE and your quality outstanding consistent performance keeps you there. His performance in the AFCON was abysmal and embarrassing.

We should try somebody ELSE.

This your inconsistency is really confusing. Now his performance in the AFCON is the reason he should be discarded. It is no longer about him being a useless player. This is someone who played less than 90 mins in the whole tournament, scored a goal, and played well in the last game. What happened to "your consistency in the in your club should get you to the SE"? So now you don't care if he gets to La Liga or not, he should not be invited anymore. If that is not bias, I don't know what is.

"You have to be a lion in a small league/club for you to be considered"...he has proven consistent over the past 2 seasons and is instrumental to Almeria's promotion fight. But alas, that is no longer acceptable.

"If he was that good, why has no team come for him"...but.. but... Ovie has been in the championship for many years and his mates have left him there. But this condition only applies to Sadiq.

You praised Vardy to high heavens here for rising form the lowly doldrums of English football to the premier league, but for Sadiq it doesn't matter. He's just not worthy to be in the SE. Again, if that is not bias, I don't know what is.

The way I see it, you really don't have the moral standing to accuse people of prejudice and bias.

komekn:
That's your perception.

I first went to look at Etebo when he played for Warri Wolves and he stood out, it's not today I've known about Etebo.

Fast Forward he goes to Stoke city after the world cup, l had GREAT EXPECTATIONS for him. Sadly he did not live up to those expectations. I expected him to have a style of football similar to Ngole Kante.

He had some good flashes but was overall not able to to dominate in the club and league. That doesn't mean he is not good enough for the SE.

He has been playing for Watford has had a few games but injury has not helped him, effectively been out for 5 months plus.

He is not SPENT please, you are now TALKING HIM DOWN and your comments by are not objective but derogatory.

I gave an honest objective assessment of Etebo club and league performance that's not Talking down.

The reason some people don't fancy Etebo is that they believe he doesn't combine well with Ndidi, but now I'm beginning to think it could have been due to Rohr's influence. He has what it takes to ramp up the energy in the midfield if he will release the ball at the right time. Under Eguavoen, he might just be a beast. I'm eager to see what he brings. Hopefully he gets back to full fitness and form by March.

ChrisKels:
Spence as an excuse? Okay Spence is 21 and rightly using the league as a stepping stone, while Ogbomosho Akpa-Kpro is already in his prime 25, yet can't make it out of the god-damned championship. Dude is already looking the way of Sammy Ameobi

Let me find trouble what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

If he was that good, why is he still in the championship?

zuchyblink:
That is the problem. Our problem started from 2000-2002 when they axed a lot of experienced guys mostly for non-football reasons,it created a vacuum. No young goal keeper understudied Enyeama because of Oliseh's verbal rakelessness. There should be proper hand over and continuity. There are two young goal keepers understudying El Shanawy and Gabal

Please what will they hand over? Gloves?

Mousup40:
maduka's time will never come, he's time with the super eagles is sadly over.he won't even be invited for the world cup playoff with ghana

I have a feeling we will still be the ones to hail the same Maduka and clamour for his call.

For those who have DSTV, the game is showing again. Perhaps watching again without pressure and a clear head will allow people see the game as it really was.

codemaniacs:
Eguavoen should only continue if his never going to play the "inferiority complex" football we saw.... That's why people are angry...

he must also start with a midfield of Aribo, Onyeka and Ndidi in every starting eleven with Iwobi, Nwakali and Bonke as replacements.

then Ejuke should replace Chuks in the starting eleven then Onyekuru, Olayinka, Ebuehi, Aina should be ahead of Chuks on the bench..

Like I said, there are lessons to be learnt from this disappointment so I have little objections to what you've said. However, while we have to make a few changes for better midfield control and other aspects, the players who will be used will have to be determined by what they bring, especially during training and in-match situations.

Before this tournament, for instance, expectations of Simon and Chukwueze were quite different from what we have seen now based on previous performances. The same can happen again, so the coach, at the end of the day, sees more than we do.

The critical thing for me is being able to read and make changes to the game swiftly when required.

When we look at everything honestly, our biggest problem in this tournament was not taking our chances. We had the problem in each of our games. What helped us was that our defense did really well in the group stages. The only times we had defensive lapses, we were punished. Unfortunately, one of them came in the knockout stages.

Most of what people are saying now is because we lost. If we had taken out chance and won, the story would have been "even with a man down, we still played them and won". Na so football be. But now, some are saying Rohr would have not lost, forgetting that we were already on a downward trajectory, even losing to CAR at home.

We weren't supposed to have played well. We weren't even considered favourites until we started the tournament. All this anger is understandable sha. It is emotional and understandable. In my opinion, we should let Eguavoen continue if he's willing to. There's a lesson every coach learns and I hope this one is his.

drDoom3:
There was something Eguavoen said in the post-match interview that made me realise that he is a good coach, but not an excellent one.

He said that you cannot change your playing style in the middle of a tournament.

Every excellent coach changes their playing style IN THE MIDDLE OF GAMES THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING IN, let alone in the middle of a month-long tournament.

Football is like chess. I am participating in a chess tournament. I have a specific opening sequence I used to win my first three games. In my fourth game, my opponent who is higher ranked plays a move right off the bat that shows he knows what my opening sequence is and he is ready to counter it. What do I do? If I continue with my sequence, I will be at a disadvantage because my opponent knows what I will play and is prepared. Every good chess player will IMMEDIATELY improvise.

From the first ten minutes, it was clear these Tunisians knew exactly what we planned to do and they were ready for it. A simple move Eguavoen could have made could have been to tell Chuks and Simon to switch wings. Very simple move and it could have messed up the Tunisians gameplan because the 3 guys marking Simon would immediately be confused and have to switch responsibilities to other guys unprepared for it.

Funny thing is I thought about this all through our run in this tournament. Why didn't our wingers switch often? It would have made us more dangerous. Those wayward crosses from Simon may have been better from the right.

Mujtahida:
Do curb your failures in life cos if you succeed you'd see less of the need to tell people to curb their enthusiasm.

It doesn't even make sense to me. People should be like you and not be enthusiastic about something that gives them joy? What kind of heart would you have to encourage people to always be persimistic? If that is how you are, it's all good, but encouraging people in negativity and then rejoicing and gloating at their disappointment? What makes it weird is that he's nowhere to be found when things are going well. The simple interpretation is that you hide when people are progressing, waiting for them to fail and once they do, you jump out like "Ehen! I talk am". People go just dey avoid you.

@darkelf, if you say it's just banter, then no wahala. I believe you. I really do hope it's not how you are for real. It's not something good to be known for.

safarigirl:
Nigerians don find the Referee IG handle

I reckon he will be closing his comment section soon enough

That referee is Senegalese. Perhaps its in their best interest that we're taken out now

Na joke I dey joke o

forgiveness:
After we don chop goal, abi.

You guys would not be saying this if we had scored two of the chances we missed. It is always sweet to say all the things the coach didn't do and all the mistakes because we lost.

Las last, for me, it was a learning experience that will strengthen the team. Bitter pill now, but a sweet aftertaste later.

Nomyth:
I'm sorry, but Eguaveon to go!

I hate to see it when a coach has no plan B at all, just looked so clueless when his initial plan was not working.

Even me that knows nothing about football tactic saw it that the moment Simon is caged, we may be rendered ineffective. I mentioned this yesterday.

A tactically savvy coach should be able to come up with something when ur initial plan does not work.

Plus , he is too predictable sef.

And to think this man was a student of westerhoof.

Total disappointment.

Iwobi was the plan B. He was about to switch things up and then the red card happened. It was just an unfortunate situation.

darkelf:
They are already arguing about who to face in the semi-finals

Even that World cup, they won't qualify



Icon4s, Mr Patriotism, where at thou.

As far as I am concerned, the only monicker here who predicted a 50-50 game was Elyte89 and forgiveness

The rest was talking about which players would score B4 even match start

All these sadistic people. So what will you gain if we don't qualify for world cup? The joy of seeing your fellow Nigerians disappointed? The satisfaction of being right? Or the recognition of being the odd one out? We know how people like you think.

Anyway Sha, my hope is that you desires will not come to pass. These things happen. No be Senegal upset France? No be Nigeria upset Spain? E dey happen. Tunisia had a plan and our tacticians were rigid in their approach. Na so we dey learn.

Considering how we came into the tournament, this shouldn't even be an upset. If anything, we performed beyond expectations.

Omanambala:
Ok , I missed Chukwueze goal and Mises's assist. Ekong scored from a rebound not an assist.

But , is that all it takes , one assist , one goal , some dribbles here and there and you are the best ?

I am sorry but my standard is different

"...some dribbles here and there..."
What a way to minimize and rubbish someone's hard and impactful work.

semid4lyfe:
I have sent you to cool off for a while.

Enjoy.

safarigirl:
They are all actually very mad, and they need to check their own discriminatory ways.

Clearly, their problem is with themselves and not with others

You cannot even say Sadiq is not good enough for this team, without one Northerner coming to accuse you of rubbish on Twitter.

Sadiq is not good enough. When we said Onuachu was not good enough, did you see Igbo people crying tribalism? And Onuachu is even better than him. People have said Ejuke has done poorly, Igbo people have not accused anyone of anything, Nwakali has gotten some slating, and we have not heard anybody shout "it is because he is Igbo", but one mediocre Sadiq boy that ruins our attack gets called out for playing nonsense and idiots are trying to bully people out of their opinions and claim ethnic bias.


Nobody has told us Sadiq is an aboki more than Northerners have these past few days. They should check themselves.

I totally agree with you. But to be fair, a lot of people on Twitter,and even one or two on this thread, have said that the only reason Sadiq is on this team is quota system. That is simply not true, and I can understand how triggering that can be for someone who sees ethnic baiting and exchanges in everyday interactions in Nigeria. I think that is the angle he is coming from. For those on Facebook talking about Musa and discrimination, those ones no get sense.

I just think the guy is directing his anger at the wrong place.

nelszx:
Nigeria currently is the team to beat, Tunisia has 2 red cards today with 12 players out with COVID-19 (whether they'll recover before Sunday is another story entirely).

Give or take, the game is ours to lose. It's time to really make a statement you know (roar it).

If you're on Twitter search for @Lotfiwada and see how scared to the marrow the Tunisians are

The coach made 8 changes to the starting line up for yesterday's match, leaving Ekong, Ndidi and Iheanacho. I think we know the players that make up that spine he talked about in his tactical analysis video. You can be sure these players are not getting dropped in this tournament.

Not Moses Simon giving himself an assist

komekn:
I can't BELIEVE my eyes but we are dominating Egypt we keep breaking up their play ,we are not allowing them to play their game.

And we have blocked of the supply route to Salah.

KC is having a lot of influence in the midfield with the HIGH PRESS.

Substitutions will be crucial you cannot keep this high tempo for 90 minutes , players will get tired . So who comes in is very important.

We have overcome technicality , with the high press , work rate, physicality, aggression. Sometimes playing a highly rated opponent brings out of the best in Nigeria.

Also I see more of the GIDIGBO spirit we no be Oyibo.

Thank you Eguavon for making us remember who WE ARE.

100%. The high press in particular, especially from Iheanacho and Awoniyi is really impressive