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One is a bundle of clues, the other is 'cluelessness' personified

One through clues is alleviating human suffering, the other through 'cluelessness' is inflicting untold hardship on millions

One has never held any political post but through clues affected several millions of life positively, the other despite being a C-in-C as through 'cluelessness' infected several with ethno-religious madness without bringing any meaningful change to their lives.

One has through clues amassed wealth to himself and country, the other has through 'cluelessness' ruined the wealth of a nation.

One's destiny is to save lives through clues, the
other's is to destroy as many lives as possible through 'cluelessness'

What a paradox!!!

Real beauty is inward. You can be pretty and still be ugly. Character is the virtue.

Besides, the so called beautiful women get swollen headed easily because of their so called beauty

Proverbs 4:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get
wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

Wetin oldman take pass pikin dey hidden under a leaf.

Una no dey chase your house-rat make you wound ya-self

Na inside house stool dey wait for bottom.

With silence, OBJ said all that needed saying

@africanchilds, check your PM, holla back

Ezekiel 18vs 1-2
1 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying, 2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?

Galatians 3:13
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Answer to OP
Do generational curses exist: Yes

Can a born again come under curses: A born again Christian shouldn't be under any form of curses but ignorance on the part of the Christian can make him be illegally affected by a curse just like the Nigerian Police can detain you even when you are on your right. Knowledge and enforcing your right can get you off the situation.

What to do: if you are a born again Christian and you suspect satan is trying to afflict you with a common evil occurrence in your family, stand your ground, pray and break it, if you think you need an assistance approach a mature Christian brother to agree with you.

Anagoid: guy you no chop ban yesterday ni?

Naa, I am sure you mistook my handle for another.

Sorry Sorry o, I am sorry for Nigeria!!!

Vicjustice: Why not tell your "friend" about nairaland.com so that he may ask the question himself.
It's always nicer to have direct dealings with the main people

Joagbaje: They like people like you.

The fact he even wrote that sarcastic nonsense shows the fellow knows very little. I have met quite a few number of fellas like him who crammed as many verses of the bible as possible yet suffering spiritual malnutrition.

His type will feel knowledgeable enough to correct Jesus and only argues to make himself feel spiritual.

If Christians are immune to demonic attacks, Paul will not suffer, the Apostles will not be killed and the body of Christ will not go through the dark age era., it is spiritual stupidity and blindness not to know demons are in operations in those scenarios.

Paul himself was very vigilant so that he doesn't lose his salvation and at a point cried out on his inner struggles.

We are told to be vigilant because the adversary is walking around looking for who devour. We are not fearful when we identify our enemies and his strength but we gain an advantage by knowing. Christians enter into captivity for lack of knowledge.

For anyone who want to become satan and start asking demons to drive him around, I wish him an accident free journey.

ajayikayod: Protects, delivers, guards etc are promises made which are now legal realities of evry believer based on positions not locations. The encampth, the establish, the shelter, the fortress arent a function of locations but position. And our position is In Christ at d right hand of the Father. D bible called the far above principalities... Ephe 1: 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Col 2: 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power.

Our position is In Christ, thats not a question of whether he can get us, he doesnt even hav d power to do so. He s rendered useless.
Col 2: 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Heb 2: 14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

All his strategies now only lies in persecutions, deceptions and ignorance not demonic possession or oppressions.

Infact, ds might shock u, D POWER D DEVIL EXERCISE OVER AN UNBELIEVER IS ILLEGAL, BECOS CHRIST DIED 4HIM,RESURRECTED 4HIM SAKE, EXPOSED SATAN 4HIM, HE ONLY HAS REFUSED TO ACCEPT CHRIST DELIVERANCE, HENCE D DEVIL'S OPPRESSIONS.



1.James 5:13-16 - Is any among you afflicted? let him pray
afflicted kak-op-ath-eh'-o from the same as to undergo hardship:--be afflicted, endure afflictions (hardness), suffer trouble.

i ve said earlier hardship is not an oppression or possession. Hardship can come in form of persecutions, oppositions, troubles.
Infact, Paul prayed
2Th 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. (These ar opposers (MEN) of the Faith not demons)

Romans 15: 30 ¶ Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me;
31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints;
32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed.

Paul was never and can never b oppressed/possesed by a demon. Dont u understand, he has d Spirit of Christ in Him.
1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

If Paul and every believer is one spirit with d Lord, then is d Spirit possesed, God forbid, dts d Spirit dt raise Christ from d dead, dts wat dwells in us.



We ar talkin about Christian (new creation) here not ordinary men.
Peter denied Jesus, Peter turned back to go into fishin again after Christ death but when d Spirit of Life possesed him.... He was never d same Peter again.

But i will need to point out to u dt not all sickness ar possessions of d devils, u hav ur environment saturated wit mosquito and u then hav malaria, dts not possession o. If dts possession/oppressions dt means Oyinbo drug too can cast out demons.
U kno most atheist stand point? If i can be healed b oyinbo drugs why need deliverance for healing.
Bro, prayer can heal all sicknesses including d ones oyinbo drugs handles and beyond, but whn sickness comes becos of demonic possesions, then check d man is not born again and simply preaching and accepting d POWER OF GOD i.e. d gospel is enough to to free him from demonic activities. Why didnt Paul conduct deliverance for Timothy weakness, or he ran out of power?

See wat ever d message of freedom from possession u preach in d church, u ll always hav d sick, d poor among us. Its not a casting out demonic activities, its all about them walking in light of God's word.



Brooooooooooosss, Brother Paul will quarrel wit u whn he sees u in d kingdom o.

I checked thru all bible translations i hav wat i see is "THORN IN THE FLESH NOT THORN IN MY FLESH", I dont kno whether u inserted dt deliberately.

Wat is thorn in d flesh in English idiom (a constant bother or annoyance to someone). Wat if i say sometin is a pain in d neck? Does dt mean its in my body?

Thru out Paul's ministries wat bothered, tormented him? Men (influenced by Satan) thru persecutions, oppositions to Faith. These are hindrances to his ministries.

Time wont allow me to dwell on ds Paul's Thorn but u can check these passages whr we hav closer words to these and conclude war it means.

Num 33: 55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

Josh 23:13 Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.

Judges 2: 3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.

Eze 2: 6 And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.

Also check this
http://www.kcm.org/real-help/article/what-about-pauls-thorn-flesh

The first highlighted statement will make one arrive quickly not to spend much time on your arguments. Whereas I have not mentioned anything about God's wall of protection being a location, you are trying to to make a case out of nothing.

In conclusion, you are free to know what you think you know and free to think what you have chosen to think QED

ajayikayod: Bro, all u explained here are human experiences. Can u giv us scripture and verse to back up?



Christians dont hav walls around, we are overcomers, Haaaaaaaaa. More than conqueror. We are not doing hide and seek o.WE ARE DELIVERED.
Lessons from Job's story, 1st; Job wasnt a christian, Job wasnt as knowledgeable (no knowlegde about d devil) as u r today, he put all blames on God.

See in reality, if thr is anyone who needs protection it should b d devil (if he can get any) becos he s been stripped of his power, He only works wit deceptions and ignorance.
I think most of our movie industries hav done more arm than good to d christian faith. The bible christian goes from places to places looking for who to deliver from oppressions of d devils.

My first inclination is to give my favorite response 'you are free to believe what you chose to believe' but on a second thought decided to list out bible verses you can look up when you have got he time

On wall of protection around Christians

1.1John 5:18 We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him
2..Psalms 34:7 - The angel of the LORD encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them
3. 2Thessalonians 3:3 But the Lord is faithful. He will establish you and guard you against the evil one.
4. Psalm 91:1-3 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the LORD, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.


On Christians obsession and oppression

1.James 5:13-16 - Is any among you afflicted? let him pray
2. Mark 8:33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. "Get behind me, Satan!" he said. "You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns."
3. Luke 4:38-39 Jesus left the synagogue and went to the home of Simon. Now Simon’s mother-in-law was suffering from a high fever, and they asked Jesus to help her. So he bent over her and rebuked the fever, and it left her. She got up at once and began to wait on them.
4. 2 Corinthians 12:7 Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.

Crixina: sir,pls being possessed an being attacked are two different things,possessed-this demon owns you,you do its bidding,but being attacked-this demons must definately be angry that you were delivered from it,hence they want to afflict you,to hurt you,an if possible get you back,in this case,you are not doing their bidding,hence the admonishment from paul to the Ephesian church that they should know that they are not 'wrestling'which paints the picture of contending so that they won't be won.

No one is saying(atleast I'm not)that christians don't come under attack,but they are no more possessed by this demons once they have truly been delivered(being saved by the blood)having spoiled principalities an powers,he made an open show of them,an nailed it to the cross.thanks

Let me make a little clarification so you can understand me better.
Man is a spirit, born again Christians have got Holy Spirit residing in their spirits hence can't come under demonic possession.

Man also have a soul which is the seat of his sub conscious and conscious mind, this also influences his emotion. It is possible and I have seen born again being obsessed by demons, you see issues of trauma, depression, insanity, hearing strange voices etc affecting them, of course for this to happen, the demon will have a legal ground or open door which it is using, a trained deliverance minister will try to identify this (most times direct or inherited sins), the born again Christian repents of this and the demon will be sent packing.

Man also have a body, it is possible and I have seen born again come under attack also in this area, I have seen cancer disappearing without a trace, illness that have been reoccuring in a family or a person gone without medical intervention etc.

Every born again has a protecting wall around him, like Job was protected and satan needed permission to cross that wall but sin most times open up this wall giving room for a legal ground (it is he who opens the edge, the serpent will bite). That is why Christians should not give room to the devil or indulge in sin

Crixina: please guys I don't want to ensue in this arguments that has been going on for eternity,but I know that when a christian is genuinely born again,saved,you don't need any form of deliverance from the power of darkness again cos col 1 I think frm verse 13 explains that.maybe the only thing one needs is trying to make sure one dsnt go back to sin.in the case one does,an maybe one is ministered to,I wouldn't call that deliverance from the power of darkness,rather restoration from the bondage of sin.thanks.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.Ephesians 6:12

That verse was a message Paul sent to technically born again Christians. Christians have these false believe once they become born-again, there is an end to the warfare they will be engaged in.

A born again Christian cannot be possessed by demons (Because the Holy Spirit reside in his spirit) but I have seen genuinely born again come under attacks, sickness, oppression etc inflicted by demons and prayers of warfare (that is what i meant by deliverance) had to be conducted for them to be loose.

Becoming born again is like giving birth to a new child, that is not the end of the whole story, dirt has to be washed off, umbilical cord (former oaths, allegiances to demons, curses and spells etc) all have to be broken, most times these newly born can hardly wash themselves (hence they depend on someone more mature), adult Christians atimes also get involve in things and come in contact with warfare that makes them approach a matured and experienced Christian to assist them in prayers of warfare (deliverance)

Like someone said, i think the problem is that people have got these fake thinking whenever you mentioned deliverance ministration, you are talking of rolling on the floor, vomiting, demonic shouting etc, whereas these kind of outward manifestation do take place (an experienced minister will not even allow it, because it is both time and energy consuming, it also wearies the one being ministered to), sometimes, it s just praying and issuing commands to the harassing demons to stop

ajayikayod: Bro, u really are not reading all i wrote or possibly reading wit defensive goggle. I will lov u to do a thorough study on 1 Corith 12 without a mindset.

Rom 15:19
Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.
20, Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:
21, But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.
22, For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you.

Which cause? verse 20 and 21 giv u d answer. I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named.

Bro, ppl in serious evangelism will tell u dt, dt is one of d hardest feat in mission work. Demanding so much from u. We ve seen ppl been hindered to even see thr families, children etc for d cause of d gospel.

1 Thess 2: 14
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: {persecuted us: or, chased us out}
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
17 But we, brethren, being taken from you for a short time in presence, not in heart, endeavored the more abundantly to see your face with great desire.
18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

Verse 18 says: wherefore. "Wherefore" is not an english word dt can stand alone, we need to read previous verses to kno d knowledge transmitted.

Verse 2 down answered dt
2, But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention., Read up to verse 16.

Can i ask u, wat exactly did Christ saved us from? wat actually is d origin of devil tormenting man. Do u agree dt salvation and newbirth are total (new created spirit, born of God).

Lastly, falling into criminals' hands, having shipwreck, having flat tyre whn going on mission, raining heavily whn set for crusade can all b hindrances but never ever call for deliverance show because a believer has overcome already. In fact d wreck described by Paul, he had a foreknowledge of it, he was never in darkness.

Bro, we also are not in it. We ar always aware, nothing take us by surprise or by chance, children of light (no darkness in or around us), light of the world Bro, The greater one lives in us. As he is (complete, justified, glorified, righteous, delivered, triumphant), so ar we in ds world (1 John 4:17).

Let me understand you, when you become a Christian, you do not need deliverance ministration or something?

A Christian can get obsessed and oppressed by demons but can't be possessed. I have never ministered to anybody who is not born again anyways because the end will only be worst if otherwise.

ooman: Slave, continue to worship your white master, and stop complaining to me...

Why should I be complaining when I have the Maker of Heaven and Earth as a Pal, babuuu

[size=13pt]But even if our Gospel (the glad tidings) also be hidden (obscured and covered up with a veil that hinders the knowledge of God), it is hidden [only] to those who are perishing and obscured [only] to those who are spiritually dying and veiled [only] to those who are lost[/size]

2 Corinthians 4:3
Amplified Bible (AMP)

Pastor Olu T: Its not about reading ur thought per se, this is what happens;

There is something called familiar spirit(s) who has been in existence from the inception of man. This spirit(s) had been around u since u were born n know everything about u, ur likes/dislikes, how u reason, talk, etc. This spirit work with other spirits n possessed beings like witches etc, so they divulge every information about u. So many at times is like they know everything about n can read ur thoughts, but they are not %100 accurate,

Concerning hearing demonic voices, its true n I actually have such encounters, which is still the same workings. But the good news is u can overcome all those.

My advice is this, God want to use for something special which is the reason for all these, though u have not seen it bt the evil ones have 'cos they are many atimes more spiritually sensitive. U have to walk closer with God, spending more time daily with Him in prayer n study. U have to start renewing ur mind with the word of God often to rid all those experiences n no longer allow the devil to take advantage of u.

THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE SCHEMES OF THE DEVIL LEST HE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US!

I concur.

They do not know what you are thinking but can place thoughts in your mind and use words like 'I', 'me' and 'mine' to make it appear like yours and when you act on these thoughts, it will appear they know your mind.

There is no shortcut, you need to go into a more closer walk with God like suggested by starting a personal revival (Fasting, Praying, Reading and Meditating on the word of God), this will help you renew your spiritual man (you sure need to get committed to Christ if you haven't), then stop giving them a free flow or processing the thoughts they throw at you, stand your ground and rebuke the demons playing the trick.

ooman: ^^^guy, calm down... You really think believing a dead white guy is your god is not foolish? Then think again......

Tooorr.....I should have faith in you the living-dead black guy instead?



[size=14pt]For the story and message of the cross is sheer absurdity and folly to those who are perishing and on their way to perdition [/size], but to us who are being saved it is the [manifestation of] the power of God
1 Corinthians 1 vs 18
Amplified Bible (AMP)

@ajayikayod
1. I agree the issue of casting out devils is something we shouldn't come online to discuss that doesn't mean you cant ask fellow ministers their opinion over a matter. Iron sharpens Iron

2. I disagree with you, there are people who are called into deliverance ministry, they have gifts and grace for that particular purpose. Whereas deliverance is every Christian ministry, these people get it done faster just like some are called into healing ministry, whereas every Christian is suppose to pray for healing with faith.


In all, discretion should be allowed when bringing some issues online sha. Some are not even born talk-less of being spiritual babes whereas some are just here to do the bidden of the defeated ones.

If nothing else, Jesus Christ is an eternity insurance to me and basal common sense. If He doesn't exist, I have got nothing to lose unless you consider not sleeping with as many girls as available, partying etc as a lost ( infact all these abstinence are economic gains) and if truly He exist and who He claimed to be, I have all to gain, so it is a WIN-WIN to me.

Now, what is going to be your own fate, if He actually lives and He is who the bible claimed He is?

It is just common sense but then very few are blessed with that

[size=14pt] The [empty-headed] fool has said in his heart, There is no God[/size]. They are corrupt, they have done abominable deeds; there is none that does good or right. Psalm 14:1-7 Amplified Bible (AMP)

"For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty" (2 Pet. 1:16).



If nothing else, Jesus Christ is an eternity insurance to me and basal common sense. If He doesn't exist, I have got nothing to lose unless you consider not sleeping with as many girls as available, partying etc as a lost ( infact all these abstinence are economic gains) and if truly He exist and who He claimed to be, I have all to gain, so it is a WIN-WIN to me.

Now, what is going to be your own fate, if He actually lives and He is who the bible claimed He is?

It is just common sense but then very few are blessed with that

[size=14pt] The [empty-headed] fool has said in his heart, There is no God[/size]. They are corrupt, they have done abominable deeds; there is none that does good or right. Psalm 14:1-7 Amplified Bible (AMP)

The experts had stated[b] that the cloned attempt to mimick Shekau voice during the opening stanza soon gave in, as the impostor reverted to his real voice, while the intonation was different as Shekau was not known to drawl while talking[/b].

Other inconsistencies discovered by the experts were that: “This ‘Shekau’ even said a dead woman -Margaret Thatcher, and Oladipo Diya, rejoiced over his (Shekau's) death.
A DSS source who spoke to THISDAY said, "How does these add up to strengthen his case? One is dead and the other had left government long before the advent of Boko Haram. The video was just to create unnecessary panic in the public.

“The fact is that Abubakar Shekau, was truly shot, critically injured and evacuated by his lieutenants to a conventional hospital outside Nigeria. It is only time that will tell if he survived but we know now that the video is as fake as it gets.

True, only time will tell

kkkp: Who dey deceive who nw?

Maybe we are deceiving ourselves

The video, which was sent in for analysis by experts showed that the movement of “Shekau’s lips” did not synchronise with the words as pronounced, apparently betraying a recorded message inefficiently manipulated to sustain a non-existent continuum in leadership, now in disarray.

Maybe, he got belu-belu or something way affect him throat

It was also observed in the analysis, that unlike on previous occasions when Shekau spoke, he was never interrupted by any background praising quite unlike what happened in the latest video.

Maybe one of them was celebrating his birthday

But the expert analysis of the video of the sect’s leader in previous appearances showed that Shekau usually starts with the recitation of a full verse of the Quran, which sometimes could last up to five minutes, a sequence the stand-in Shekau did not observe.

Maybe, he forgot this time around or he was in hurry

https://www.nairaland.com/1471451/shekaru-cloned

Worth frontpage

Investigators of the Joint Task Force (JTF) who have been probing the video of the leader of the dreaded Islamic militant sect, Boko Haram, Mallam Abubakar Shekau have rubbished a supposed video of the militant leader, which indicated he was still alive.
A report put together by the team of investigators on behalf of the security agencies said that the investigators have been able to fault the video in “a number of ways.”
Though the real location of the militant leader is yet to be ascertained by the security forces, there was a strong belief in the forces that Shekau was not alive.
Analysis of the last video said to have been made available to authorities indicated that Shekau was cloned.
Sources in the know quoted the report as submitting that Shekau in previous video appearances would start with a recitation of a full verse of the Holy Quran that sometimes could last up to five minutes.
The report indicated that the stand-in Shekau in the video never observed that tradition.
Reports also indicated that in previous occasions, Shekau’s speech was never interrupted by hailing from the background and that the last video had such features.
Investigations by the JTF was also said to have identified that the movement on the lips of the man presented as Shekau in the video did not synchronise with the words he pronounced, an indication according to the report of “a recorded message inefficiently manipulated to sustain a non-existent continuum in leadership.”
The report according to the sources also indicated that following the failure of the alleged attempt to mimic Shekau’s voice in the opening part of the video, alleged stand-in Shekau reverted to his real voice.
“The intonation was different as well as the fact that Abubakar Shekau does not drag his voice,” the analysis further stated.

http://news.naij.com/49237.html

The last may not have been heard concerning the survival or otherwise of the leader of the outlawed Islamic sect, Boko Haram, Abubkar Shekau, as a security analysis conducted by the Department of the State Security (DSS), yesterday revealed that the recent video appearance of the sect’s leader was unreal.

The security analysis of the video sighted by THISDAY, noted that the amateur replica cloned everything wrongly but was not categorical on the death of the terrorist as it waited on time to determine.

This, however, came same day the Minister of Special Duties, Alhaji Kabiru Turaki, said it was not part of his duty or mandate as minister and chairman of the Presidential Committee on Dialogue and Peaceful Resolution of the Conflicts in Northern Nigeria to locate Shekau’s whereabout.

But the expert analysis of the video of the sect’s leader in previous appearances showed that Shekau usually starts with the recitation of a full verse of the Quran, which sometimes could last up to five minutes, a sequence the stand-in Shekau did not observe.

According to a senior official of the agency, who spoke on conditions of anonymity, the amateur cloned replica of Shekau was wrong on several grounds including the fact that his former appearances in videos was patterned after a certain modus operandi.

It was also observed in the analysis, that unlike on previous occasions when Shekau spoke, he was never interrupted by any background praising quite unlike what happened in the latest video.

The video, which was sent in for analysis by experts showed that the movement of “Shekau’s lips” did not synchronise with the words as pronounced, apparently betraying a recorded message inefficiently manipulated to sustain a non-existent continuum in leadership, now in disarray.

The experts had stated that the cloned attempt to mimick Shekau voice during the opening stanza soon gave in, as the impostor reverted to his real voice, while the intonation was different as Shekau was not known to drawl while talking.

Other inconsistencies discovered by the experts were that: “This ‘Shekau’ even said a dead woman -Margaret Thatcher, and Oladipo Diya, rejoiced over his (Shekau's) death.
A DSS source who spoke to THISDAY said, "How does these add up to strengthen his case? One is dead and the other had left government long before the advent of Boko Haram. The video was just to create unnecessary panic in the public.

“The fact is that Abubakar Shekau, was truly shot, critically injured and evacuated by his lieutenants to a conventional hospital outside Nigeria. It is only time that will tell if he survived but we know now that the video is as fake as it gets.”

Meanwhile, Turaki, while briefing journalists after giving a scorecard of his portfolio as minister to the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) National Working Committee (NWC), said the report of the committee was almost 99 per cent completed.

He noted that the committee would soon notify President Goodluck Jonathan on a convenient date to submit the report, while also hinting that it cost the federal government about N100 billion to finance constituency projects of members of the National Assembly.

The minister, who put the number of the ongoing constituency projects at 2,399 projects, said: “I think I should also ask you, where is Shekau? With all sense of responsibility, we have been directed by Mr. President to identify key members of the sect and then engage them in dialogue. Mr. President didn't ask us to look for Shekau and engage him in dialogue.”

According to him, “It is important for Nigerians to appreciate that in matters of this nature you don’t just wake up one day even as a dialogue committee established by government and say you are discussing with the leadership of the insurgents. Usually, what happens and that was what happened in our own case is that after we have been able to establish confidence.

However, Turaki said the committee had identified some key elements of the insurgent group and has made some useful recommendations in the report that would be soon be submitted to the president.
Noting that the insurgency should not be expected to come to an end suddenly, the minister said: “Necessarily, it has to take time to contain the insurgency and it is not what will be done today or tomorrow.”

He explained that it was as a result of this that some vulnerable members, including children, women and others with lesser offences have been released from detention.

On the constituency projects initiated by the members of the National Assembly, the minister said it cost the federal government a whooping N100 billion per year, though, he exonerated the lawmakers from the awards of contracts and nomination of the contractors for the constituency projects.




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