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Chef2000:
You will do well not to reply the idiot again.

Noted. Thanks bro

Osagyefo98:
Not a wish but a reality.

Enjoy your reality.

Osagyefo98:
I wonder what the said sit at home will achieve even when businesses thrived sameday very well.
My case is simple abia state can pursue biafra on their own with nnamdi kanu.

Everybody can't be mad at same time.

Sorry. You wish.

Osagyefo98:
Abia state give me shivers? For what reason. Am only saying kanu should domicile his madness with his Abia brothers.
Others ain't interested in that shiit.
H should first of all free his brothers from hunger, lack of infrastructure, unemployment etc before spreading an occultic notion to other people.

Well, the recent September sit-at-home says otherwise. Igbos are either passively or actively with Nnamdi kanu.

Jealousy won't drown you o....take a chill pill.

pazienza:
I don't care about people responding positively or negatively to my posts.
You don't seem to get.

All I care about is that Ndiigbo be presented in good light and when/if there be need for criticism, let it be a genuine constructive One. Not one built to elevate and justify distortions about Ndiigbo, which our enemies propagate, while doing everything possible to suppress our numerous positive traits.

Before Achebe offered his constructive criticism about Ndiigbo, he first and foremost praised Ndiigbo, then he condemned our detractors, and thereafter, offered his constructive criticism.
See the floor here :

1.Praise
2. Condemnation/Vilification/criticism of Igbo detractors by exposing their lies against us
3. Constructive criticism of Ndiigbo

You raise alarm bells in head, when all you have is destructive condemnation of Ndiigbo, why you try to wave off all our attempts to get you to condemn and criticize our detractors, by telling us that they we shouldn't talk about their own faults, which outweighs ours.

Is that how things are done?

Destructive condemnation of ndigbo? Just because I raised the notion of the need for Igbo to go stealth rather being arrogant and noisy about their achievements? You raise unnecessary storm in a teacup.

You are not as knowledgeable as some (or perhaps, your other monikers) may claim.

You are just an attention seeker.

Osagyefo98:
Pls I thought this is igbo political and economic forum.


Why Nnamdi kanu everywhere.

Is clear abia state wants force everybody into biafra.
It won't work.

Nna for Christ sake, grow up. Why does Abia state gives you the shivers? Na wa o

If you don't know who responded positively to your poste yesterday pazienza, then ihere megbuo kwe gi....

Because I disagreed with you today, I have become an imposter. Okwu gi jogburu onwe ya.

TundeBricklayer:
Writing Igbo doesn't make you Igbo.

And saying that to me, does not make you Igbo.

Keep fooling yourself. Afo anu.

BankeSmalls:
Google translator.

Keep googling ..... Lol.... I dey laugh you.

TundeBricklayer:
He is the same person using superlightning, trying hard to deceive gullible minds

I will keep disgracing you by proving you wrong as Igbo discussions continues.

Abughum onye Igbo okwaya? Anyi g'ahu on ye ike ga-agwu.

BankeSmalls:
I know he must be an afonja, not surprised.

Well, get ready for a surprise because you will end up embarrassing yourself continuously.

As Igbo discussions progresses, anyi g'ama onye bu onye

TundeBricklayer:
Thanks bro, you are very smart and intelligent, I guess he is the same with the moniker you just replied and hammer6F his objectives are demonizing and dividing Igbos his major target is Anambra you need to be smart to know his antics towards Igbos, he is from Ogun state, not just nairaland even other social media platforms and some of our people are so naive to see through...

Wow.... You must really have investigated who I and what my mission is. How incredible! Incredibly stupid.

When next you want to play sidekick to your "encyclopedia", be careful to know who he is actually dealing with.

Nnamdi Kanu, Aguiyi Ironsi and Michael Okpara are my kinsmen. Figure that out and stop disgracing yourself here.

Obi1kenobi:
If you're jobless enough to go through my posting history, I have sparred with just about every notorious anti-Igbo Yoruba moniker plenty of times here. I reserved the silliness (of smearing me to be what I'm not) to some of the smaller minded trolls of the site. I thought you were better than that but clearly not. I have been claimed to be all sorts of monikers on here for years. Some weeks ago, one claimed I'm laudate. The amusing thing is how clever the claimants feel announcing their discovery, with no self-awareness as to just how comical they look.

Yes, I am more critical about Igbos than I am other groups. This is especially because I care more about Igbos than other groups. Just as I'm more critical of my family and expect more from them than outsiders. There is a subtle difference between patriotism and nationalism. The former is self-reflective and self-critical and is a product of sincere devotion and a desire for self-improvement. The latter is self-aggrandizing, and boastful, and myopic and altogether darker. Many Igbos here, especially my Anambra kin, are more of the latter. Crude exhibitionism and mindless chestbeating all the time. You would try to push the notion that all groups are the same, but they aren't. I think Fulanis for example are a uniquely blood-thirsty group in Nigeria. Yet, every Fulani I encounter on social media pose as the victims of regular provocation and would never admit any violence is their fault. They never seem to ask themselves why they are the only ones warring with every community they share with others. But they believe it's always someone else fault. Igbos are uniquely famed among Nigerian groups for an abrasive arrogance that rubs others the wrong way. Like the Fulani example, people like you never seem to ask yourself why others harbour such an impression about Igbos: doesn't matter whether it's Northerners, Middle Belters, Yorubas, South-South ethnicities, even Igboid groups (and even among Igbos, Anambrarians have the reputation). At best, you'd claim it's simply because of "jealousy" (like your absurd comments about Aniomas the other day). Yet you don't see to ask yourself why Yorubas, the most accomplished tribe in Nigeria (argue with your ekuke) don't seem to attract this level of animus from other groups. Achebe himself would assert this when he said "...Nigerians would come to no common consensus other than their common hatred for the Igbo man...". There is blame to go around, but plenty of that blame boils down to the uncouth, brash arrogance of many Igbos and their supremacist rhetoric.

If it makes you feel better to believe I'm some "afonja" or whoever posing as an Igbo man, that's your prerogative. It's a losers argument though. You'd be better of sticking to calling me an efulefu as you've always done. Calling me afonja or whatever would not change a hair on my head. I'd still wake up tomorrow the son of an Oraukwu man and Agulu woman regardless what some anonymous comedians on the internet decide to call me.

OMG! This is classic!

Chef2000:
Bankesmalls you are misrepresenting some people here, please stop, everyone must not reason like you, I can tell you that all the people commenting on this thread are Igbos but with different views, the impostors are few.

I wish she got you well. I just hope she won't claim you are another impostor. Na wa o. She really embarrassed herself o.... And I really admire her passion for igboness.

BankeSmalls:
What the heck, didn't realise you are a fulani muzlem

Lol..... Who did this to you? Some dude must have traumatized you with it. Odi egwu.

I wish we meet in person.

BankeSmalls:
See what they do here to divide Igbos

Send dirty pictures of all states, claiming Imo to curse Anambra. They claimed Enugu to curse Anambra yesterday, claiming that no Enugu man is important to cause a fight between the two peaceful state. They do this on all Igbo states. (To cause trouble between Igbo states)

They tell multiple stories of people they met in the bus,train, plane and in the middle of the sea cursing Igbos and claiming igbo are stealing from them. (To cause hate between SS igbos and SE igbos )

They yab ojukwu, Okpara, Nnamdi KANU, Obiano , Gburugburu and all high ranking igbos and accuse them of being docile and weak.

They call Ekweremadu a criminal

They claim we have no link to Jews

They do all these to scatter any interest of investors to the east.

Nne, you are barking at the wrong tree. Stop dreaming. Get your shit together.

BankeSmalls:
Watch your words, you could be committing a heresy now.

Now I understand how Jesus felt when he tried to reach out to his own people, the Jews.

BankeSmalls:
He has always been busted, his sticking to all Igbo threads was only to practice their Divide and rule tactics. That was why Murtala slashed Ikwerre from other Igbos, they were promised hefty sums to deny being Igbo. While their oil was shared and ceded to Jigawa state.

Now I understand how Jesus felt when he tried to reach out to his people, the Jews.

Its a shame.

BankeSmalls:
He has always been busted, his sticking to all Igbo threads was only to practice their Divide and rule tactics. That was why Murtala slashed Ikwerre from other Igbos, they were promised hefty sums to deny being Igbo. While their oil was shared and ceded to Jigawa state.

Now I understand how Jesus felt when he tried to reach out to his people, the Jews.

Its a shame.

BankeSmalls:
There's something you fail to understand. Speaking Igbo has never been proof that you are Igbo. Remember, some fulanis and Yorubas were born in igboland, schooled with the rest of us and are often mistaken to be Igbos, except for the few who really know them. You are not an Igbo person. Go back to your squalid region and stop being bitter about Igbo progress.

And who are you to tell who is Igbo and who isn't? I have been as understanding to you as possible.

I don't need you or anyone's approval to prove or qualify my Igboness.

Hia.....lekwe nu iberibe... Biko kwushi kwa o....

Abagworo:
I hate Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB with all my heart because they wasted an opportunity to develop Igbo consciousness on brainwash and deceit. They even went on to force Jewish identity on Igbos whereas Igbos know our roots and culture which is older and more complex. Nothing good came out of Kanu and no patriotic Igbo man rooted in Igbo culture regards him as anything better than a goat.

That's your opinion. Nnamdi KANU has my respect and admiration 100% despite his excesses. No Igbo politician today is half as bold, and intelligent as he is.

pazienza:
What's the point of exaggerating the minor negative side which had been proven to even be more pronounced in other groups, while trying as hard as possible to diminish our numerous positive sides?

Why is it too convenient for him(he knows himself) to quickly wave off attempts to show him that the so called Igbo negative sides are found even more in other groups, but to hard to get him to ignore that of Ndiigbo for a minute?
Go through his Obi1kenobi moniker, all he had ever done since his presence in NL is to try and demonize Ndiigbo.
If you are going to offer criticism, be sure to have been seen to have offered lots of praises. That's the difference between constructive and destructive criticism.

The most dangerous thing in life is not ignorance, it is half-knowledge.

pazienza, I always believed you were more than this, but you prove me wrong.

Since I'm now obi1kenobi trying to badmouth Igbo, what evidence do you have to that?

Keep face-saving. You are not more Igbo than i am. Inuru ihe m kwuru?

I have always being pro-igbo. Yet I'm not ignorant of our shortcomings. Guo ishi gi....

pazienza:
You need to go take your sleep.
I have been in NL since 2007 under different monikers, I can read people motives here before they even manifest them.

We are mindful of Achebe constructive criticism. But we had established that Yorubas and Hausas had shown more boastful nature, arrogance and unbridled pride than whatever Ndiigbo had shown in Nigerian history . So your attempts to make it seem like Ndiigbo are isolated in this, is rather mischievous.

Attention seeking? that's new. Attention seekers are in Romance and entertainment sections of NL. I only comment Politics (Igbo connected ones, Culture (Igbo connected ones too) and Sports occasionally, on NL.

You are not mindful of anything. If you were, you wouldn't have gone all the way to initially discredit the notion that IGBO should tone down their arrogance and pride in an IGBOPHOBIC SOCIETY like Nigeria except when pushed to the wall. Forget about the pride of ndi Yoruba and ndi ugwu, let's correct ourselves first.

So pazienza, calm down, We know what we say when we say them.

basilo101:
What's your point? A thought process that highlighted our negative side, should amending our ways not be the first before we can have genuine complaints?

My brother don't mind pazienza, he is only trying hard to save face and to save his "encyclopedia" status.

He is now talking as if we were against we Igbos enumerating our achievement as a people.

As a people we should be mindful of what Achebe stated in page 76.

Pazienza loves attention in naira land....Lol...e dey e body.

pazienza:
Still exhibiting your mischievous character.

The part you highlighted were not made in isolation. They are a part of a long thought process. You can't take and present them in isolation in bid to demonize Ndiigbo.

I had attached the rest of the thought process that led to the part you made bold.

Thank God you know that ACHEBE also wrote about OUR SHORTCOMINGS as a people in order for us to be cautious. So we must be mindful of that. Shikena.

Achebe, a great man, acknowledged our shortcomings. Why can't you, ordinary you, acknowledge our shortcoming.

Pride goes before a fall o....

pazienza:
Still exhibiting your mischievous character.

The part you highlighted were not made in isolation. They are a part of a long thought process. You can't take and present them in isolation in bid to demonize Ndiigbo.

I had attached the rest of the thought process that led to the part you made bold.

There is nothing wrong with outlining our numerous achievement as a people, which Achebe magnificently did. There is also NOTHING WRONG with being cautious of our shortcomings as a people, which Achebe also consciously noted.

So stop trying to be smart by half. You are (or should be) bigger than that

pazienza:
What are you on about.
You quoted Achebe out of context, and that's exactly what I corrected. Achebe praised Ndiigbo to high heavens, you know, the kind of praises that personally pains you, before offering a constructive criticism.

But what the likes of you want is for us to give away our praises and accept only condemnations.
You failed bro, move on.

I fight the Yoruba here on nairaland on almost a daily basis. I boast about my igboness any day anytime, but I am also not ignorant of our Achilles heel as igbos.

pazienza:
What are you on about.
You quoted Achebe out of context, and that's exactly what I corrected. Achebe praised Ndiigbo to high heavens, you know, the kind of praises that personally pains you, before offering a constructive criticism.

But what the likes of you want is for us to give away our praises and accept only condemnations.
You failed bro, move on.

You keep trying save face Mr. "Encyclopedia".... Lol... Oya show where I quoted Achebe out of context.

BankeSmalls:
Dede m ka owu, make na anyi wu ndi Umuahia.

Google translator has its limits.

Sorry nne, I meant "anyi" not "anti". It was an error from autocorrect in my phone keypad.

Biko ghaharam.

Bu and wu are the same na-asusu Igbo. Ha bu otu ihe.

pazienza:
That's the full text of Achebe message.
mischievous fellows should stop quoting him out of context.

You are fighting hard to redeem your honorific as an "encyclopedia" to some people here....

I challenge you to quote AT FULL LENGTH, the words of Achebe in PG 76.

What you posted was not directly from his book. Nwannem, QUOTE ACHEBE VERBATIM. I'm waiting.

BankeSmalls:
So, what is your views about Nnamdi Kanu?

Nne,

Nnamdi KANU to me, is a symbol of the anger and frustration of the younger Igbo generation with Nigeria as they have been ridiculed and pushed to the wall.

He is daring, bold and passionate about what he believes in.

Deedem ka-obu, maka na anyi bu ndi umuahia.

I like the fact that he shook Nigeria into bringing restructuring to the front-burner of national discourse.

He is my alternative to restructuring.

pazienza:
https://www.nairaland.com/3968136/igbo-mans-comment-yorubas-got/1#59176850

Obi1kenobi/Superlightening. that your Achebe argument was what gave you away.
We have had that argument before.

I had also noticed your Obi1kenobi moniker had been rather missing from this thread, considering how deeply attracted you are to Igbo issues, with arguments that hype on Igbo to called boastful nature, I had waited for your arrival on this thread for so long. I'm pissed if took me long to fish you out.

Chai..... pazienza onye mere gi ihe-a? Lol.....