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All has been said:

This is NAF BASE MAIDUGURI and it seems those MIG-21s must be on static display for years now.

What one guy identified as dual engines are external fuel tanks which can be seen frequently on A29s.

Google Earth Pro just recently updated West Africa with new MAXAR image data.

Sattelite images show at least 4 Tucanos based in Maiduguri

Whyem15:
Most APS are designed to protect tanks from maximum of 4 missiles. The engaging range of APS is so small that the shrapnels and debris of the missiles will still do significant damages to systems/devices outside the tank. After about 3-4 of such interception, even the APS sensors and radars would have been destroyed along with other important components outside the tank.
Many APS can also be easily deceived, there is usually a slight period of inactivity (a fraction of a second) after intercepting one projectile and two projectiles launched in very quick succession will penetrate the defenses of the tank. The RPG-30 was designed with this in mind, one dummy projectile and the actual missile, the dummy projectile is usually launched a few milliseconds before the actual missile and when the APS intercepts the dummy projectile and is inactive, the real projectile hits. However, modern APS are being designed to greatly reduce this period of inactivity.

You are absolutely right here. It must also be noted that using APS makes changes to infantry doctrine and tactics absolutely necessary because the presence of an active APS will not allow dismounted troops in effective area.

kabe1:
Vice President of Nigeria Professor Yemi Osibanjo (GCON) visits Nigeria's most modern Locally built warship, SDB 3 ahead of Launch.

I have a high opinion about Yemi Osibanjo, he represents Nigeria better than Buhari who has been seen rarely outside of Aso Rock for a year or so.

dragon2:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/uganda-to-spend-97pc-of-domestic-revenue-on-debt-repayments-3286354%3fview=htmlamp

A very unhealty development.

RiceProducers:
Eventually they will buy US made AH1Zs

I could also think of the UH-1Y Venom as a potential candidate. (AH-1Z and UH-1Y share 85 percent parts commonality)

kabe1:
Another day, another Nigeria Helicopter purchase news.


Turkish Aerospace, Airbus and HAL vie for attack helicopter contract
The Nigerian Air Force, which is looking for attack helicopters to boost its firepower, is currently conducting negotiations with the European manufacturer Airbus and India's HAL. But the Turkish TAI, solidly supported by Ankara, has a head start with its T-129 model.

https://www.africaintelligence.com/central-and-west-africa_business/2021/11/24/turkish-aerospace-airbus-and-hal-vie-for-attack-helicopter-contract,109706885-art

Does the article (behind paywall) name any source for HAL and TAI in negotiations with the Nigerian armed forces?

youghs:
We need chopper but not cobras, it's too expensive.

I believe the choppers would be for the NA Air Corp. The NAF like most Air Forces might not be too much interested in operating Combat helicopters at all. I would not be surprised if the NAF never going to get a full squadron of M-35.

youghs:
That helicopter sale rumor is total BS. There's no way Nigeria is going to pay $800m for 12 cobra when it's not that they are mad
.

We dont know the outcome of that deal yet but it is not a rumor:

VICE PRESIDENT OSINBAJO: "..The Super Tucanos have been delivered, and of course, we’re looking forward to the helicopters as well..."

FOREIGN MINISTER ONYEAMA: "..We have a slight issue with some attack helicopters, but that’s more on the legislative side and not on the executive side..."

Source:
https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-remarks-at-the-signing-ceremony-for-2-1-billion-development-assistance-agreement-with-nigerian-vice-president-yemi-osinbajo-and-nigerian-foreign-minister-geoffrey-onyeam/

Stormtrooper11:
Personally, I don't want the Nigerian-U.S deal for the Cobras to go through. Honestly, I don't like the fact that our technicians will be left out of the maintenance procedures of the platforms. Instead, we should get the Mi 28ne and if possible, the Ka 52.

The U.S ain't just it. They don't act like partners.

Who told you NAF technicians were left out of the maintenance of our platforms?

Why does the US act not like partners in this matter?

Stormtrooper11:
Note, the Arjun MBT is the Indian army version of the Vickers. Mk.3 MBT which is operated by the Nigerian army.

Vijayanta MBT >> Vickers. Mk.1

Arjun MBT is something else - looks like a bad copy of a early Leopard 2

French Army - Commando Group (GCP) of the 11th Parachute Brigade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWGVICVnkeI

*for your entertainment

Toju200:
Nigerian Designed
Gray Insignia Hawk, Sniper Weapon System (SWS).

but where do the components come from?

RiceProducers:
İ love A29s. I have been one of their proponents. I just don't like weird American face masks

ok, then you have my apologies

GeneralFarouq:
As far as I know,since 2014, our service men had been rocking it, tho not exactly this design.

The skull is the very popular Punisher Logo from Marvel. RiceProducers just hates the A29 for no reason.

RiceProducers:
American techs or advisors have shared out their Halloween masks. I hope Nigeria is not paying for them

You are very bitter today, my son.

RiceProducers:
Trenching machines, military bulldozers, prefab concrete barriers. These three are to be provided by Army engineering Corps.

A few UGVs and 20mm gun emplacements activated remotely.

The simplicity of HESCO is the key.
The logistic needs are small: No Trench digging, no transport of raw materials or prefab concrete barriers needed. You just fill the HESCO bags with local soil and build a fortification that can even withstand explosives like RPGs. A clear advantage in every regards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RVuGImIww

RiceProducers:
We don't need HESCO bags.

oh Yes we do. HESCO is part of the solution to build better FOBs.

kabe1:
Earlier reports suggest Nigeria may have ordered Sa'ar 72 Corvettes.

Could this visit be further evidence of that purchase?

My bet is on the Shaldag V - but of course i would be happy for the NN if they introduce Sa'ar 72 Corvettes.

ecomog1990:
We as Nigerians quickly forget our past.

Any goddam new procurement of vehicles, we celebrate blindly without careful deep thinking.

So we celebrated 43 T-72 tanks 7 years ago but today 7 years after celebration, Nigeria's insecurity is worse.

All these unarmed light armoured vehicles without guns long range night vision sensors, will be fitted with same old DShK or W85 that has failed to give security to all 36 states and FCT.

320 unarmed STANAG 1 & STANAG 2 vehicles are not war winners. You may keep celebrating like this for another 20 years. They turn you to their drummer boy dancers while big men get rich from each procurement

All these 100 Dongfeng, 100 Bigfoot, 60 Legion, 60 Type 89 tracked are simply replacements for heavy attrition losses Nigerian Army is suffering for Steyr APC tracked, MTLB tracked, MRAPs of Bigfoot, Caiman, REVA, etc destroyed by IED, RPG, DShK, etc. You need to visit Nigerian Army scrap vehicle bone yard or Zamfara to Borno terrain graveyard of destroyed NA armoured vehicles to see how many vehicles we have lost to enemy action.

Tuareg & Tebu Mali Bandits, Kanuri Boko Haram, Sahel & Sahara ISWAP, Senegal & Nigér Fulani Bandits have already done infantry tactical flanking maneuver turn corner sidetrack & bypass Nigerian Army containment barrier troop battalions to invade reach Kaduna, Benue, Niger, Abuja, down to Lagos-Ibadan Expressway, they now have access to all our 36 states & FCT.

Like ISOTREX Phantom and KIA KLTV failed, so Dongfeng with DShK will NOT save us in our 923,000 km² land mass giant size, we need new armoured vehicles in several thousands spread across all 774 local government areas to trully end insecurity nationwide.

This is just - 320 + 320 = 0 Progress

No of the platforms you mentioned has failed. This is nonsense.

The problem you identified is clear, the NA armored 4x4 fleet became a Zoo because every year a new type of 4x4 will be acquired and introduced. What is needed is a platform which the NA should commit and then procure in significant numbers by a multi-year procurement plan.

shadowprimezero:
The picture you posted is on the heavy IFV variant which we don't know if Nigeria got. For context, the is the "skeletal" 12.7mm/40mm RCWS we were talking about. You can also see it operation in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=308cDCJJTCc

This is a mechanical operated poor mans RCWS, much like a periscope with a Gun attached. Not a real RCWS in common sense but the Gunner can operate the system protected from inside the vehicle. A electric operated RCWS starts from 150.000$, which is exceeds the costs of an armored 4x4 - sadly not an option for the NA at this point.

kabe1:
Not to slate South-Africa , but the recently launched IPV although built in South-Africa is a Dutch design and a Dutch company built the vessel.

The design for South-African Navy hydrographic ship currently been built was bought from a Canadian company.

And what exactly is the problem with this? The US Constellation Class is designed by Italian Fincantieri Marinette Marine and build in the US by this company. Main constructor of the German Navy MKS 180 is the Dutch company DAMEN. And there are many more examples how defence business is done in a globalized world.

kabe1:
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In all Nigeria would have 6 OPVs in service, with a service requirement for 8 OPVs.

The 2 Hamilton OPVs are going to leave the fleet mid of this decade. So with the introduction of the Turkish vessels (in 37 months!) there will still be 4 OPVs in service if not additional platforms introduced.

The new OPVs would likely be based on the Dersan Shipyard - Offshore Patrol Vessel OPV 76

http://www.dearsan.com/en/products/naval-vessels/offshore-patrol-vessel-opv76

JOSCOFELIX:
... 23caanon weapon . brought from Libya most of those fighter are dead. ..

100% of their equipment came as loot from the NA into their hands.

DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles

I looks like there were SBS Operators on ground.

Litmus:
The British can have bad mouth when it comes to Africa, with their sneering disdain. But how did they perform in Afghanistan? Didn't the Americans have to rescue their terrible efforts in Helmand, where they kept complaining of being provided with poor equipment, quote: 'US and Nato commander at the time, General Dan McNeill, told a visiting American official that the British had "made a mess of things in Helmand". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11906147

In Africa, Sierra Leone/Liberia they, British, waited until Nigeria had done the hard work, then came in to steal the credit at the end.

ok good. This does not change the fact the security apparatus (NA & NPF) is dysfunctional and corrupt. Whataboutism does not help us. This country need the truth become better - even if it hurts.

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homerac7:
Fencing can't work. That's a distance of over 200km. It runs through many villages bisecting them. People must cross the railway lines to get to different places or even see their next door neighbours. Cameras can't work either because of distance and remoteness. Don't bring up tracking with helicopter.

UAVs are cheap, efficient and not so man power intensive at doing surveillance missions. Even civil institutions can operate them to monitor their assets.

ocelot2006:
The Nigerian Navy SBS are our own Tier 1 Special Ops unit, and they've proven themselves over & over in the fight against Boko Haram.

What is missing in the lineup is a Tier 2 Force with 2-3 Commando Battalions with capabilities somewhere between SF and regular Army units.

kabe1:
On the other hand it seems
The Nigeria Navy has reportedly placed an order for 1x OPV-45 and a SA’AR S-72 Fast attack vessel from Israel shipyards Ltd.

Very skeptical about this. 45m Patrol Ships are exactly what he Navy builds in their shipyard - OPV-45 would be redundant unless the NN does not have trust in the Project. And a single Fast Attack vessel would not make sense if not part of a larger order.

My first thought: Neat uniforms, everything and everyone appears to be professional - they must be other than army.