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we saw authentic copies of stella oduahgate's document.

we saw signed copy of Sanusi's letter.

we saw signed copies of OBJ's letter?

where is the signed copy of Iyabo's letter.

let us reason here. Where is the evidence of the letter.

we saw authentic copies of stella oduahgate's document.

we saw signed copy of Sanusi's letter.

we saw signed copies of OBJ's letter?

where is the signed copy of Iyabo's letter.

mandarin: Like I wrote about emerging Nigeria countries somewhere yesterday, I do not share the expectation of a disintegrated Nigeria but the Nigeria in which all groups can achieve their aims and succeed in a restructured Nigeria.
I however concured that the Igbo would scheme their way to get the Ikwere and most of western Igbo(if not all) while the Yoruba will align in a mutually beneficial union with the Itsekiri(en route the Urhobo etc),Edo Igala and other areas west of the Niger River including the Bariba and Tapa(Nupe) and also the Ebira. I look at the Yoruba as very astute and can do negotiations of convenience and looking at the mutual benefits for both parties it will be acceptable to all. That will for instance put a Yoruba country on top of Anambra area of Igbo land and share boundary with Enugu and open oil dispute with Anambra. This will cause Igbo to flex muscle and find a diplomatic approach to deal with the Yoruba cause it places their military very close to the centre of Igboland within very few hours and kilometres.The Warri ports can serve the Igbo ,country if Yoruba gets the place and the are working on it without shooting a bullet which will make the Urhobo and other Delta groups see a negotiated position with the Yoruba as their best possibilities.
By being part of a larger Yoruba country or region, the Itsekiri put themselves under a fortified power bloc and big influence that will make their neighbours think twice on any issue, it will give the Yoruba the control of the coast thereby making it the best possibility of bringing the old Bendel into the fold. I think am making sense do you?

that is the wisdom and power of diplomacy, subtle negotiations, alliance building and formidable unionization they have never understood and they will never understand.

Wars are not only fought on battle fields. They are fought psychological in the minds of potential and real enemies through beficial alliances and rewarding unionization.

How many wars have occured directly between US and Russia? They don;t understand that and they can't.

There is no yoruba child that can write that. Even if, he or she is a bastard.

I am not exonerating OBJ. Whatever he does within his family, is his prerogative.

The purported Iyabo's letter addresses family issues, OBJ's letter addresses national issues.


We are in desperate times and desperadoes will go to any extent.

GEJ vs OBJ --Letter Writing Part2 featuring OBJ GEJ FFK Abati Okupe and Iyabo (debut appearance)

KIRIJI: Ajaka was sango's elder brother who abdicated the throne for him. Sango's mother was the daughter of Elempe a Nupe king, who formed an alliance with oranyan-(Sango's father)by giving him his daughter to wife, of which marriage sango was the issue. Sango's mother died when he was still a baby and she was buried in the Tapa country

Nice one.

Nupes are out .

The whole of Nigeria is turning to nollywood comedy.

Mad followers.

Madder leadership.

Maddest political class.

shymexx: Word. I won't mind including the Bariba people in the commonwealth since they were also under Oyo for a long time.

We own the coast!!

I pray I see a Yoruba country in my life time - that's the dream!!

Are the baribas known as Nupes?

You know Shango was asked to come back to Oyo to become Alaafin. He was staying with his mother's family in Tapa, which is a Nupe settlement.

Please guys, leave the creole-Igbo-isoko-urhobo-kanuri- dude alone.

He seems to be an attention seeking baby without any knowledge to add. Just ignore him.

[quote author=Mayor_of_Lagos]@topic,

I want to congratulate all my Itsekiri brothers and sisters and say your leaders did the right thing by inviting OPC to institute its political presence in Warri. By this action the Oduduwa flag, which is rightly your birthright, has been planted on your soil.

Have you guys noticed how over the past two years Ijaw citizen have repeatedly dominated Delta political talk? Everytime there is a flashpoint they issue statement calling attention to Delta and Ijaw. Is Ijaw the only people in Delta?

Yoruba is in Delta too. Its high time we raise that awareness. OPC is our steward in that regard and all Oduduwa children are under their umbrella of socio-cultural brotherhood.[/quote]Infact, we need to send modakeke, agbekoyas and OPC there, to secure the frontier further.

alj harem: Just be reading, I know is igbo

The funny thing is that all our families in Lagos KNOW each other (I mean indigenes) and there are records to prove.

Don't mind those asiwere group of companies. They think everybody does not keep records and cherish history like them.

They always look for every opportunity to distort history. The one Achebe tried and he failed woefully.

He said he is from warri again. Who claims maternal side in African culture.

Just ignore the guy, he has identity problem.

How does someone that has identity problem knows where he is from, talkless of the history of the place.

Bishop Magic: make me.

come and deport me.

That is not my job.

When you are through with your lies again, you will soon start claiming maiduguri.

However, how has that stop the meeting of OPC and itsekiri nation?

Bishop Magic: Mr. Man, I am a Lagosian from a prominent creole family. I say Lagosian and NOT Yoruba because I am not in any way genetically linked to Yoruba peoples.

My first name is Yoruba as is the tradition with most Creole descendants and I have an English Surname.

My Mother is from Delta and I did my secondary schooling in a boarding school in Warri.

I wrote that piece in the most instigating manner because I have come to feel offended by the current leadership in Lagos treating Lagos as a FOR Yorubas alone and targeting certain people from a particular section.

I am the least tribal person in this country and in my office I have been accused by my supposedly tribes men for not being truly Yoruba which I never claimed to be in any time in my life. Being Lagosian is not equal to being Yoruba at least in my own case.

So if you felt offended by my write up I suggest you go back and re-read what I wrote.

As a Yoruba man I am sure you will pride yourself as being the most open critics in Nigeria without fear or prejudice just as you are fond of citing Obasajo as a case when in office so in that light I hope to shed the light of your hypocrisy in not accepting criticism when it come to who actually developed Lagos. And as a Lagosian I can authoritatively tell you that we or at least our creole fore-fathers built Lagos from scratch.

Now it is out.

Do I still sound Igbo to you now?

If you are creole, find your way to Sierra Leone. Creole does not have a single root in Nigeria. Every free slave brought to Nigeria where of Nigerian descent. Why will a creole leave his Freetown to come to Nigeria then, when Sierra Leone and Liberia (SL neighbour) were freer towns than Lagos.

Your fore father's built Free town and we all know how it is. A capital with a stretch of tarred road. So your forefathers have always been following Portuguese to Eko since 15th century? Na wa o. The refugees of Liberia and Sierra Leone wars too will be telling us in 100years time, how they built Lagos.


Staying in Lagos makes you a Lagosian, it does not make you an indigene of Lagos. Only yorubas have the sole right to claim Lagos indigeneship. If you want to try I, get to your nearest LGA HQ and try it.

There is no lies and fallacies we don't hear on NL. It is no more igbo built lagos, it is now creole built lagos. Lagos don suffer wallahi.

I agree with you. Are you happy now.

Bishop Magic: Stop exhibiting your schizophrenic paranoia here.

You specifically waded in and derailed this thread into an Igbo bashing thread and assuming any one not supporting OPC in Warri despite their past and current demerits and the not so recent violent past of Warri as being an Igbo.

You then took this thread personally and started hauling insults left-right-center displaying your unstable state without adding an iota of value to the main discussion.

For the record this is the only time I have gone to the Complaints thread on a topic other than querying the MODs about a ban and my reason are in tact given that this thread has decayed beyond an reasonable argument since your lot have lumped up together like the feeble broomsticks to derail and insult other posters blindly.

You can go back and check the complaints thread and see if I made any case against any of you individually. That is not my style. I am not a snitch and will never be and I won't do the work of the Janitors here on Nairaland.

On your call for "vigilance" I will like to add that you are in deep slumber resembling a comatose state.

You are barely alive as a human being as you have chosen to live your life as a tribe rather than a Human Being.

Point noted.

Thank you.

Mind you, you started the m0ronic and stup1d "The Ungrateful Lagos" thread for bashing of yorubas. Practise what you preach, preacher.

Desola: The stup1d fauqer deliberatly waded in to disrupt and derail this thread so that it can be moved to the ethnic and sectarian section. He thinks he has succeeded in doing so and have now run to the complaints thread to suggest it to be moved.

We ought to be vigilant to their tactics. Don't engage them when you see where they are heading anymore. Threads like this does not deserve to be dumped into that section. We must see through their agenda to silence all things Yoruba progress here.

I will take that advise myself.

Thumbs up.

I have even decided to be ignoring those asiwere group of companies.

Desola: Ejo lo wa ro, poroki lo wa ta. Ejo to fe ro, soun lo pa tisha?

Bishop Magic: On a serious note, this is utterly a waste of time.

OPC spreading into adjourning states with no direct majority yoruba population and given the current tensive nature of our country and the antecedence of this barbaric group I am really appalled that some of you will see this as a welcome development.

Why is OPC not spreading into Benin or Togo?

Lets be objective and see this within it's borders that is within Delta state alone without joining issues with Ndigbo.

For me, this is disaster in the making not for Deltans but for those that think Delta is a walk over in their Machiavellian scheming.

There is no Urhobo or Isoko Family that does not have an Itsekiri as an in-law and vice-versa. As I said in my earlier post the real reason for the 90's problem was ethno related but was purely based on which Tribal stool will be taken as paramount head of Warri . For your info the constitution dictates that LG should pay 5% of their allocations to the Traditional Ruler. Warri as a whole will have more than 3 LGAs so in a nut shell there was money to be made for whoever was made paramount Chief of Warri.

Today in Warri, as it has always been, there is the Ovie of Warri (Urhobo tittle) and Olu of Warri (Itsekiri) I believe a sharing formulae has been implemented to suit all aggrieved parties.

So for you e-warriors who at the comfort of your homes are promoting senseless violence based on some whimsical Tribal connection to warri via the Itsekiris please try and visit warri and have a feel and understanding of that city.

In warri and Delta as a whole the official lingua-franca is pidgin English. which is constantly evolving and unique to warri and neihbouring Benin and parts of Bayelsa. Why? Because your native language is meant only when you are speaking to really old people or when spanking your erring kids.

Calm your hot nerves down.

Are we the ones that called for the meeting?

Was the meeting not.held in warri?

Were itsekiris not present there?

Are itsekiris not aware of all your rantings?

Joor ooooooo.

The unionization has been solemnised, right on.the soil of warri and haters can jump into alaigbo gully.

cbrass: Abi oo...God bless you so you remember? They acted like real chickens. I don't just know their problem-they keep saying they are the most hardworking tribe in Nigeria but we know what that phrase means.

They don't know the comparative advantage of working smart over working hard.

This crime of r@pe is getting out hand. What are the female legislators lawyers, judges and civil right activists doing?

It should be 21years imprisonment.

cbrass: The ibos kept calling the yorubas cowards for so many years even with that none of them have bolls to stand them now its greed...hmmm... MOST HARD.WORKING PEOPLE ON EARTH

Just ask them - where were they, when we were fighting June 12 cause for 5years? They carried their Ghana-must-Go and Usain bolt from SW.

Shameless people.

Are itsekiri people complaining about the unionization?

Why the hullabaloo on this?

Na wa ooooooo

Strategic unionization Continua

Frontier fortification continua.

Mutually beneficial alliance continua

Next on the list of unionization and solemnization of our ancestral linkage?


Haters, you can use a cobra as your suicide rope.

payless: He lost the last of his 32 teeth 20 years ago. I have picture to prove it.

You better don't send that deluded, shameless and senile mind to his early grave

DerideGull: The above crap is a manifestation of anemic dementia. This waste pipe can not separate hunger for crude oil, fathomable ancestral lineage and constitutional pedigree.

Mr man, you better don,t let the remaining teeth fall down.

Where were you when the meeting was being held? Or itsekiri people told you they were dragged to the table.

Meanwhile, to demonstrate Gani Adams audacity, the meeting was held in warri. People making mouth, should have mobilized to the venue in warri and confront him now?

Loudmouths.

DerideGull: You and OPC had done better looking across the border for people with the same ancestral lineage as Yoruba than faraway Itsekiri land. Greed kills and do not say you and OPC were not warned.

If the people we had the unionization with are not complaining, what is your own sir? How can someone be using paracetamol for someone else that has headache. Na wa o.

Mind you, the fear of OPC is the beginning of wisdom. Ask Abacha and his army. Sorry, Abacha don kpeme self.

DerideGull: Lagos is part of the jungle called Nigeria and Ndigbo have every constitutional pedigree to partake in business activities in the state. They were not Lagos to cunningly forge unfathomable ancestral lineage with loudmouthed douche bags such as you. I do not need to advice you and lazyasre OPC on how to forge ancestral lineage but it would be easier to look westward across border than eastward across Ore, agbaya opemu.

Do you think OPC are like Massob always giving stup1d ultimatum. Ask your brothers living in Lagos?

You can never fathom the lineage, due to the level of your senility.

Next cousin on the list? Frontier fortification continua

Haters - dance naked in market square.

Desola: and my question to you demented soul with serial number 0001 is: what the eff is wrong with wanting to forge ancestral relationship solely for the sake of oil? Does it oppose economical sense? Afterall, do you non-entities not dominate the down trodden engine oil laden dirty surrounding spare part business that you otherwise glorify as commerce? Do you not do so away from your red soiled; erosion laden hell hole that is otherwise known as land of the setting sun?

So I ask you oh, stup1d one: what is wrong in wanting to maximize your political and economical sphere so long those whom you are willing to partner with are eager and willing?

Was Gani stoned or booed when he attended the meeting? Do you see Itsekiri youths or militants raising the alarm? How come its you jealous forquer that seem the most pained by this very good development?

if you can milk money from Lagos and other parts of western Nigeria, why can't we do so especially with willing parties? Isn't the fundamental requirement in a bilaterial contract, consent? Are the Itsekiris not consenting and are they dispelling their ancestral link with the YOrubas?

Ta la na, ta lara n ta?

Wa gbayi, omo're bi iyan.

DerideGull: Believe me, Yoruba do not scare a housefly in Nigeria. Republic of Oodua has to worry about its survival before rendering defensive help to Itsekiri. I hope Itsekiri peeps would not want to commit suicide by hedging their bet on loudmouthed ingrates.

I laff in Japanese, kamikaze and samurai to be precise.

I know ojukwu and zik know better. Likewise IBB, Abacha and the whole northern oligarchy.

Even before the realisation of our dear republic, the survival till eternity is assured. Worry for yours more. Itsekiris, our beloved cousins, know we can defend ourselves and them, that is why the unionization is taken place. Like I said, if you are aggrieved, jump inside shark infested Atlantic ocean.

See definition of ingrates calling people ingrates?

OPC, where is the next frontier fortification? ---- Igalas

Bishop Magic: cowards like to drum up war.

Be very careful of what you wish for.

Warri no dey carry last ohh.

Of course why will our cousins carry last?

Tell us the war your forefathers fought in modern day?

It is not a wish, it is the breaking up chess movement already going on. Open your eyes.

DerideGull: Superfool1

I understand your idiotic illogicality which is no crude oil no ancestral lineage with Yoruba. The era in discourse was the period when lineage matter very much. I wonder why OPC did not checkout the Yoruba peeps across the border.

Senile Deludedmumu,

The era in discourse was the period when lineage matters, therefore, we should forget our lineage with our cousins. Your grey hair just increased by 100 with that statement. senility is a disease.

So, is Benin republic part of Nigeria? I know you read 1825 geography and atlas. For your info, Benin republic is a sovereign nation, with her delineated border and geographical area. That is what is obtainable in modern day sir.

Anybody can be rest assured, an assault on itsekiri by any person or group of persons, is a direct assault on yorubaland going forward. OPC only need to mobilise 1000 of them and fully backed by the 364 deities. The rest shall be history. this is not an alliance, it is a unionization.

Frontier fortification continua.

Some people and their empty threats. Do they think, this is a war of the creeks? The established fact is itsekiris owns warri. Anybody that is aggrieved, should jump inside Atlantic ocean. If there is any contrary document, bring it out if you are that cerebral.

The union of Yorubas and their cousins, is making them to shiver and piss in their pants.

Calm down, dooms day is not here yet, it is just around the corner.

OPC Keep fortifying our frontiers.

Who is the next cousin on the list? ----- Igalas.

For people that are doubting the ownership of warri by itsekiri's, our amiable cousins - read and digest. If you are not satisfied, GO AND DIE.

The Title of Olu of Warri

There is extensive evidence that after founding Warri Kingdom in the late fifteenth century, the Itsekiri monarch always bore the title to indicate his rulership over the land occupied by his people. The name "Warri" is a derivative of "Iwere" as Itsekiris know their homeland and this explains their reference to themselves as "Om'Iwere" or "child of Iwere". According to Professor P.C. Lloyd, a British anthropologist, in a section on Itsekiri co-authored with R.E. Bradbury in the  Benin Kingdom,

"The Itsekiri call themselves Itsekiri or Iwere, … In English literature they are known as Warri or Jekri,…. Warri and Itsekiri have been spelt in many different though recognizable ways by European writers e.g. Oere, Ouere, Awerri, Owerri, Jekri and Jakri."

Historical accounts show usage of several anglicized versions of the name and references to the Olu of Warri. On pages 66 and 67 of Michael Crowder's The Story of Nigeria, reference is made to Dapper who wrote in the 17th century and referred to the "King of Ouwerre." Also in 1862, Father Jerome Merolla referred to the "reigning Olu of Warri." Sir Alan Burns G.C.M.G. gives account of the "King of Warri" who lived in 1644 on page 75 of his History of Nigeria. A.F.C. Ryder on page 14 of his work, Missionary Activity in the Kingdom of Warri to the early 19th century, in collaboration with a six-man editorial board headed by Dr. Kenneth O. Dike states "… in 1685 the Olu of Warri had again petitioned the King of Portugal to send missionaries …."
 

Following the death of Olu Akengbuwa II, who reigned as Olu of Warri, in 1848, there was an eighty-eight-year interregnum during which there were no Olus crowned in Warri. In that period, Warri or Itsekiri country was ruled by governors, who were mostly powerful merchants. Nanna's defeat by the British Royal Navy in the War of 1894 greatly weakened these merchants and would later pave the way for the resumption of the monarchy in Warri in 1936.
 

In 1914, Lord Lugard created Nigeria by amalgamating the Northern and Southern protectorates. For administrative purposes, provinces were created throughout the new country. A province was named after "Warri" and this province encompassed Urhobo, Ijaw, Isoko, Ndokwa and Itsekiri lands.
 

During preparations to resume the Itsekiri monarchy by the coronation of Ginuwa II in 1936, official references were to the "Olu of Warri". However, the Urhobo Progressive Union, under the leadership of Chief Mukoro Mowoe, prevailed on the colonial administration to change the title to "Olu of Itsekiri". His argument was that the entire Urhobo Division, being part of Warri Province, could be construed to under the Olu's domain. Predictably, the change was denounced by notable Nigerian personalities who were not even Itsekiri. [[b]b]Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, then a newspaper publisher, wrote as follows in the West African Pilot of May 14, 1940:

"His Highness Ginuwa II is Olu of the Itsekiri-speaking people, who live on Itsekiri land… If the matter is discussed in detail, it will be found that a definite title is necessary, in which case, the Olu of Warri seems to be the most historical and correct. When we speak of the Oba of Lagos we refer to the Paramount Native Ruler of Lagos, although Lagos is peopled mainly by Yoruba-speaking peoples and Lagos is part of Yorubaland. So too, in the case of His Highness Ginuwa II, the Olu of Warri is the Paramount Native Ruler of Warri…"

It is noteworthy that, after a riot and an inquiry in 1952, Chief Obafemi Awolowo invited both Itsekiri and Urhobo delegations to present their case for and against the Itsekiri monarch being called the Olu of Warri. The late Chief M.E.R. Okorodudu presented the Itsekiri case based on historical facts and common sense. Chief P.K. Tobiowo spoke for the Urhobos but did not dispute the historicity of the Itsekiri claim. He merely repeated Chief Mowoe's assertion of 1936 that since Warri Province included other homelands, the title "Olu of Warri" would suggest that the Olu was titular head not only of Warri Division but also to other divisions within the province. Chief Okorodudu then suggested that the name of the province be changed to Delta, confining "Warri" to Itsekiri homeland which had been the Olu's domain for centuries. Both the Urhobo delegate and the Government accepted this compromise. This was then presented to the Western House of Assembly in Ibadan where it was debated and adopted. The name of the province was therefore changed to Delta and title of the Olu of Warri reverted to its original form.
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Ijaws never protested against the title and Urhobos accepted the confinement of the power of the Olu to Warri - the Itsekiri homeland.
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Ownership of Warri
 

Warri Kingdom, a 1520 sq. miles of land area, comprising the three Warri Local Government Areas or Warri South, Warri North and Warri Southwest, was an independent and sovereign state prior to the British-Benin River Expedition (Nanna War) of 1894. The area is also known as Itsekiri country. The various Itsekiri communities such as Omadino, Irigbo, Ureju, Inorin, Ugborodo, etc., had occupied this area from time immemorial before a Bini Prince named Ginuwa and his chiefs set out to establish a kingdom here towards the end of the fifteenth century. The Warri metropolis, a comparatively recent development, is usually referred to as New Warri in deference to Big Warri, the other name for Ode-Itsekiri, the capital of the kingdom.

DerideGull: superfool1

Yes, the Itsekiri and Yoruba lineage disappeared when Nana of Itsekiri was chased by the British. No Oba in Yoruba land looked his way.

Deludedmumu,

So how did that remove their ancestral lineage and linkage to Yorubas?