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@thorpido: by thorpido: 9:50pm On Nov 15

The problem of muslims is that you don't choose to do a deeper study of the bible.Yes Jesus said He came for the lost ship of Israel primarily but for the whole world by extension.What did He mean by this scripture,'And other sheep I have,which are not of this fold:them also I must bring,and they shall hear my voice;and there shall be one fold,and one Shepherd.

you seem to know the mission of Jesus more than Jesus, even more than his Lord God Almighty Who is One, always. while you say God is 3 as in trinity, i can see that you are far off from the truth as of now. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, so please tell us where God or Jesus who He sent to the children of Israel, even specifically to the lost sheep among them that Jesus is now for the whole world? wait a minute and ponder on this; will the comforter not be for the whole world as the last to be sent? If you sent a message and it is not to all each time but to a selected group, the last message must be to everyone more than the selected group, if no message will not be sent any longer? while there was no black man in the ministry on Jesus, we had african blacks in the ministry of Muhammad [sa] so much elevated that he was the first caller [ra] of the mission. we had asiatic people, so were europeans. we had slaves along the free. we had the poor along the wealthy. the women were almost larger in number than the men. now thats who carried the message to me, my kind.

John 10:16.Again John 3:16 says,'for God so loved the world that He gave.....It is convenient for muslims to just say Jesus was for Israel.
Do a deeper study of what Jesus said in relation to the prophets before Him.

imagine if this verse was true and the others ignored it. Imagine that for a moment. it will be equal if not greater in importance as if they forgot to mention his name. not mentioning is name would have been easier to accept because the title will be suitable for the identity. but to ignore that he was given to the world being the only sired son so that the sinners can live is an incompetence of the other writers who didnt mention it. Heck, it shows that it is not true but a made up story by John. why would God love to waste His son who he must love more than the whole world fr the sake of that very sinful world? who is making the demand of sacrifice from God or who is God appeasing with allowing His son to be sacrificed? you need to do even a deeper study of the bibles than just matching verses.

Yes apostle Paul did not see Him,do u know what revelation knowledge is? It's something bigger than religion so I'm nt sure u'll understand.Jesus said these things are given to believers to know of the Kingdom of God which unbelievers will not unravel.
If u will keep an open mind and do a deeper research,God Himself will show you His truth.Don't just listen to what your Islamic scholars tell you.

if Jesus was charged after his earthly life to 'reveal' any additional information than what he told his disciples and more than what the eminent duty of the expected another comforter will do [the comforter who at the time of Jesus the world did not know and can not receive], how on earth will Paul the liar and killer be the one to shoulder this matter called "REVELATION"? was there not a single person with a strong faith among the disciples who would qualify and capable of moving the mission forward? this is sickening. have you ever wondered why the disciples of Jesus actually had a different gospel than what Paul finally taught, forcing the people who knew Jesus to accept?

@Davidylan: Tell me who will save the Jews from The God of Jesus? The very Jesus they hated.

Remember you said they killed Jesus, while his father did not protect him?

I am certain that his father must love him more than the jews who killed him.

When God wishes to punish a person {Ariel Sharon if you ask me] or a people [the jews have been punished before], who will stop God?

Just late last month, you must have seen what hurricane sandy [sandy is a woman] did? God has a lot of weapons to choose from. Sand, Drought, etc among them. Any of them can be used against the zionists or any group.

@honeychild: 3 verse 55 says mutawafiika wa raafiuka wa muthahiiruka to mean take you and raise you to Myself and purify you.
so where did you you see or find your "cause you to die"? do you know the word for death or die or death in arabic? its mawt as in malaika mawt.

if you research the word for yourself before you take the ignorant path like your coreligionists that you are copying their work and opinion. i am not gonna bother myself with the issues on the other verses. the outcome will be just like the misrepresentation as you did on 3 verse 55.

the christians dont even think things abut God, Jesus etc through and thoroughly before arriving at the bus stop.
if the ghost that the former muslim saw said he was God of the Christians, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, a true believer should have asked him; "where is the God of Jesus and Israel"? and the fake "Jesus" would have disappeared. That just using the bibles to defeat fake appearance of Jesus.

is it not interesting that even apostle Paul did not even see Jesus but heard only his voice? i guess the ex muslim is a better believer of christian Jesus than Paul was. i am hoping that the christians see that their condition is dire and their heaven entry is narrower than a needle eye.

@Thorpido: The message of Jesus, if you read your Bibles includes "God of Jesus is God of Israel and That God is One Lord" and "Jesus is a prophet of God, appointed to the Children of Israel to bring back the lost of the herd back to what Moses and others were on, the very same path Jesus was on".

Whats interesting is that Jesus said he stayed on a path that all prophets before him stayed. But the people who now say they are following Jesus changed everything and now are on a hybrid where they have thrown away Moses and all and definitely by what Jesus said about "The Prophets and The Laws" throw away Jesus, too.

i wonder how davidylan got infidel out of 5 verse 17 when it says llaqad kafaralladinna qaluuu innAllaha huwal massihubnu Maryama. . .


@davidylan: please point out infidel from the bold, while i can see kafar as disbeliever. but i do not see "and infidel" after it.

david, unless you are such a chronic deceiver, show infidel to be, a word that is plain in the NT, if not in OT as well, but no equivalence in the Quran. at least from your post, kafar is disbeliever and it is not infidel because there is no need to use the word twice and the and as conjunction between them. it will be silly to say davidylan and davidylan, i hope you know that? so. again. show me infidel in the 5 verse 17 that you dubiously posted as if you know "nothing about nothing".

my mother is yoruba and wears iro and buba.

tiarabubu wears iro and buba and she can speak yoruba language.

heck the girl is copying and pasting my momma including the old woman style.

exactly how Quran is copying and pasting her tiarabubu's bibles. sisi, which bible is Quran doing that to; catholic's, protestant's, ethiopian's, coptic's, . . ? which one and what period of bible while you are still editing and revising up to date and my Quran is consistent since over 14 centuries?

its like dummy muslims produced a masterpiece so consistent from the always editing and revising bibles.

oson lara iwo omo tiara yi.

by Allah, when the above happen and it will, then nakash is disgraced because his beloved jews are humiliated just as they have humiliated the palestinians.

just as believers [young David [as]] humiliated goliath. The believers shall be victorious at the end because Allah is on their side as their Sole Supporter.

@nakash; the reality which your heart is missing and can't capture until you either become a believer or you see your reality of afterlife is that Muhammad [sa] is victorious and a source of comfort for believers. if Muhammad [sa] said it, it is the truth. you will find out on The Day of Judgment.


are you a jew or christian? either way, the jews are humiliating the christians visiting Jerusalem and the christians are gonna massacre the jews when Jesus returns to rapture the christians. My statement here about the christians versus the jews is to remind you of the deceptions you are trying to hide. I know your kind. God is merciful that we can expose you.

the fisherboy cant help himself. how is Muhammad [sa] a blasphemy?

@op: if my good is not acceptable to you, it is still my good as long as it does not affect your life, i think you can let me be. my way is not your way and your way is not mine. but you can have your and i am free to have mine without you going off. we in Islam have the right to keep our Muhammad [sa] and you need to find your own master to lie upon. leave us to our master and leave him for us. we are satisfied with him in every which way you can define satisfaction.

muslims are sensitive to matters of each and every prophet [as] and that of Muhammad [sa] is just as sensitive. i remembered when they made fun of Joseph in the broadway play about him some years ago. same way they accused Jesus in the broadway play Jesus superstar. muslims mounted protests in each case, going it alone without support from christians. well, it is islam that stands between anything goes of world domination intention of the atheist and their satanic supporter and right to worship God.


sisi fatie you have a long way to go. at 18, i was trying to be a soldier boy at the defense academy, thinking it is the only way i can defend my country. well my older brother was able to steer me clear of that and show me other possibilities. i am still here today and who knows; i could have been one of those heady young officers who want to dimka everything. i give you 10 years of this madness of atheism. you will get married and find out that you are a woman, in and out of religion.whats disappointing about you people is that none of you is bold enough to let mama and papa know that you are at tangential to the norm.

@paris love:

by Paris-Love: 2:36am On Oct 31
ne-day Muhammad goes to Hafsa's house and upon setting gaze at her maid Mariyah, he finds her attractive and decides to get laid. He sends Hafsa to Omar's house, telling her that her father wanted to see her (a lie). When Hafsa leaves, Muhammad takes Mariyah to bed and has intercourse with her. Meanwhile Hafsa, who finds out that her father was not expecting her, returns home much sooner than expected, and to her surprise finds her illustrious husband in bed with her maid.

whether you take vedaxcool's "honey" or and lagosshia's "sleep" story/ies, it does not matter because the matter has already been decided over 1400 years ago.

Muhammad [sa] was a ruler and a law giver among his community. he was the commander of his community. each of these role was bestowed on him by his Creator.

i am responding to you based on the quoted above. who gave the mad to her but Muhammad [sa]? you seem not to be thinking straight. a man who controlled himself in his youth will have no problem doing just the same as he advances in age. i know because i am getting to that advanced age now. i am better at restraining myself now than i was as youth. i may have the same desire level. but now there is wisdom to caution myself much much better than a teenager can.

so to say that my master in good manner cant is not understanding what you have said. can this subordinate better than the master he is trying to imitate?

@seyibrown: i have sent you an email about child se.x and pedophi.lia.

@Omuha: This is your read. it may actually be different from what Jesus meant. Why read meaning that is opposite to the speaker? we do not have to know about the inner working of the speaker before we get the gist of that verse. it is in plain speech and to spin it to mean different is plainly deceiving us.

how will yo spin "i do not know ye" if it is meaning i do not know you?

@davidylan:

by davidylan(m): 12:29am On Oct 30

So in essence the lesson mohammad teaches us here is that it is ok to be have no discipline when it comes to sex and making a commitment to one woman?

a sexu.al hypocrite like you have no right to critic a man who waiting until marriage before his first sexual experience.
how old were you before you lost your virgi.nity and in spite of your bible thumping, you were just the other day [few years is the other day] couldn't keep your zipper on, until you made the S U [bible sister] do what both you and her wanted.

@nextpart: just the other day you were seeking cooperation. i see that your demon never left you.

@logicboy03: show us a single prophet of God, from Adam all the way to Jesus that was a christian. one prophet will be sufficient. I am wondering if you know what it takes to be a christian and you may impose that quality on the prophet of your choice if you want. if can give us a prophet, please change your name to mr illogical because you speak without thinking it through, first.

@seyibrown: I wished you had read what i posted in response to your question of 9 year old girl. 1,000 years ago the best discovery in science that may qualify for the ph. d. of that time is probably a grammar school course load of this era. how do we now say the man who was best in science then is now a novice?

the statement is not about violence from the muslims who think they have wronged by the provocateur, but in normal circumstances, even after so much abuse, the muslims will not say anything bad about any prophet. you people say Prophet King David [as] was a killer and a wife snatcher. you say his son King Prophet Solomon was a womanizer and an idolater. you said Abraham was an adulterer. you said Prophet Adam was a sinner. I know you dont have any complaint about John, son of Zachariah and even Zachariah himself. but all the prophets [as] you complain about you are not ashamed to name yourself after them. Ishmael who your prophesy never came true on him, you really name yourself after him, even that it is God Himself Who gave him his name. i wonder where you people get your spiritual directive, except from satan who is your master by putting doubts in your hearts?


and which part of Quran is copied from the Bibles? which bible is that; the catholic or the coptics or the ethiopians or the greek orthodox or the russian orthodox or the seven days adventist or the jehovah witnesses or the protestants? please tell us which one since you people dont even agree on a single bible for your religion?

@paris love;

by Paris-Love: 8:31pm

Grow some balls like lagoshia and answer the damn question. Lol, never knew you were this economical with your answers given the fact they're quite lengthy

your story is like pierre in the middle. so what lagosshia gave you is not enough? when you take my offer, i will answer you questions, InshaAllah. it will be short and sweet.

@paris love:

by Paris-Love: 5:31pm

I didn't read anywhere that her parents disowned her or tried honor killing did you?
It never occurred to you that she didn't want to be like Shalelia which UK court jailed both muslim parents for life over honor killing of teen daughter for leaving islam.

if each evil committed by a person is attached to his religion whether the religion sanctions it or not, apart from the injustices that would have been perpetrated against the religion, if it does not support it, i say christianity will just be a tad better than judaism. is there a complete nation that islam ever wiped off the map just because they are not muslims? jews did many times and christians decimated the andalusian muslims.

i dont see where islam says there is killing to protect your family image. if it is permissible, there would have been precedence in the time of the ruler, law giver of islam, Muhammad [sa], the Messenger of God [SWT}. i dont live in england and i am not for england you, you, you . . . interestingly, in my family i have christians, some actually converted out of Islam and no one has hamstrung them. from brother to niece to cousin and so on. i guess anything goes now for 9ja. the other side of the coin is that i know a pakistani family that the daughter says she is not a muslim but wants to be glammed up. you know she is walking around, while the guy call mazaje cant let his christian cousins know that he is no more a christian because they make suya of him. you know about the cannibalism practiced by the christians in the benue pogrom earlier.

@paris love:

by Paris-Love: 6:17pm

Sweetnecta: @paris love: the sermon is speech about truth that you need. how can i give you your answers which will be lying to you? you can ask me by Allah to lie. my offer stands by Allah.

Hahahahahaha is Allah's soldier on the run? Whenever the answers starts to flow it sure promises to be sizzling!

for te love of paris does not know what he wants. he earlier said the opposite of what he said here now. they call people like you flip flopper[s]. i will only give you the truth and it will not be your truth, if you are talking about islam.

*grabs my pork chips*

easy on the pork rinds. something that simple can kill. bush almost choked on something that simple while in the presidency.

@paris love:

by Paris-Love: 7:41am

LagosShia: The warning only has to do with Aisha and Hafsa.the other wives are not concerned.

The verse said all. 66:5 It may be, if he divorced you (all), Before you accuse me of quoting wrong translation, i got the verses from http://www.muslimaccess.com/quraan/arabic/066.asp

Sweetnecta: @paris love; what will do after the 5 questions are answered?
will you accept guidance and follow the last prophet who is the only one to all of nations till end of time or
you will scuff at the guidance which is Islam, the chairman of prophetic office [SA] and still remain arrogant as if you are the One
Who determines success?

anyways, your presence on nairaland is a witness because you have read from so many messengers of the Messenger [SA}.
Love is not only in Paris, but the love of the Messenger [SA} by the Message is available to all mankind, except those who wish to reject it.

Why all this sermons? I don't need them please and next time you wanna post on this thread let it be my answers i beg you in the name of Allah

the sermon is speech about truth that you need. how can i give you your answers which will be lying to you? you cant ask me by Allah to lie. my offer to you stands by Allah.

by mazaje(m): 7:34am
^^
This man has come again with his endless drivels that only make sense to him alone. . . .LOL!

a one liner to a complex question is really showing knowledge. thats smart only in your mind of deception. what you didnt say to the illogical logicboy03 is that your mother is a christians and if your dad paid any attention to islam he wouldnt have married a people of the book in an oasis of 'muslims' as large as northern nigeria. the same deception you have carried through that will not let you fess up to your cousins from both sides that you are an atheist. whats so interesting is that your fear of what the christian cousins will do to you clearly proves that its not islam that shall make your muslim cousins manhandle you if they know what you are.



@logicboy03:

by Logicboy03(m): 10:56am

mazaje: ^^
This man has come again with his endless drivels that only make sense to him alone. . . .LOL!

Sweetnecta seems like an illiterate that was lucky to get an American passport.

luck i do not believe in. i still keep my nigerian citizenship. i will accept you calling me an illiterate. many a leader of nations are. GEJ is one in my own view. many captains of of mega corporations are. Brannson of Virgin Atlantic is one. I guess neither the cost of education that my parents paid for nor the university degree qualify me more than what you said i am. heck. look at who i am responding to; a man who thinks he made himself or he came for whatever [a set of gorillas or baboons or even dogs], even after knowing fully well that his parents are humans and not gorillas. i guess when a man makes 500 pounds a weekend he has arrived.

@davidylan:

by davidylan(m): 5:23pm On Oct 28
Nah, i think (i know) the problem is rooted deep in islamic propaganda and delusion.

Your quote - Then again, you must accept the message of the current Prophet of your time. It would be futile for an ethnic Jew to claim to follow Moses (AS) during the lifetime of Jesus (AS) just as it is futile to claim monotheism and submission to God without accepting the message of Prophet Muhammad (SAW)at this time. God makes the changes and it is part of submission to him that we comply. #Simple

1. If it was futile of jews to claim to follow Moses during the lifetime of Jesus (actually they did follow Moses even after Jesus died)

pay attention to the bold and ignore the "after Jesus died" part, focus only on the "follow" part. those of them who followed Jesus in the very lifetime of Jesus, were they believers or disbelievers and those who rejected Jesus at very moment, those crucial years of his message being delivered by himself, would you say these people sticking to Moses alone but rejecting Jesus were believers or disbelievers? notice that throughout the years Jesus preached he was not referred to or any of his followers referred to as christians showing in essence that christianity did not even have a life in the lifetime of Jesus, but the nickname by the antioch citizens is another era entirely. who were the believers in your own judgment during the lifetime of Jesus between those who followed Jesus and those who rejected him but stuck with "moses" as you said?

then why is mohammad's case different?

if the Moses only people in the lifetime of Jesus were disbelievers you must then know that the Jesus only in the life of Muhammad are disbelievers. But when did time of Moses start except when Moses started his commissioned message? when did his follower-ship end except when the baton was passed to Jesus at the beginning of is mission? one must ask if Moses died over a millennium before Jesus and you are arguing that people followed Moses all through this time, up to when Jesus can and beyond, we must agree at lease that before Jesus, all the over 1,000 years without Moses, the message in the mission of Moses was the standard of "true belief". do you understand that and agree or do you say with knowledge that Moses death ended his "truth" and something else was the absolute truth, but Jesus was giving them a different absolute truth when he was asking them to return to "Moses through the Truth that Jesus brought"? what will make Jesus even mention Moses unless there was some relevance to his current mission of truth, both practically identical in their basic format: God is One and Him Only true worship as He ordains is due. You cant make your worship up and expect God to accept it over what He commands or along with it.

He died over 1000 yrs ago and is still the "prophet of our time"?

It should make sense to you that if Moses died over 1,000 years before Jesus and Jesus upheld the laws and prophetic office of Moses as relevant, then before the arrival of Jesus after the death of Moses, who was the "prophet of our time" if you were to be alive in that over 1,000 years? good thinking is needed here because you may have to do back to the future and go to the past at the same time. it may be complicated to you based on your reasoning when it comes to Muhammad post Jesus, yet you as a christian take Jesus mission as the mission to follow today after over 2,000 years of the death you claim for him. which is long between 2,000 years and 1,000 years?

Even though SEVERAL other prophets have come and gone after him?

why are you following Jesus today, instead of the last of those "prophets" after Muhammad [sa] that you claimed? or are you an atheist or suddenly you develop amnesia because Muhammad [sa] is clearly after Jesus [as] as Jesus is after Moses [as]? You must be a freaking jew without any knowledge of the order of prophet-hood. Noah [as] remained the prophet of "our time" even after he died, until God sent another prophet [as]. could you name a prophet from God after Muhammad [sa]? Just one prophet and tell us why you agree he is from God and give us a simple reason you are not following him, but Jesus who came much earlier than Muhammad?

2. There are plenty of monotheistic religions with submission to God as a central tenet... they do not accept mohammad either - for example judaism itself is built on those 2 tenets.

just like christianity, judaism is not from God. these are man made religions and both differ from each other and definitely differ from the pattern of Ibrahim [as], yet each proclaims itself as abrahamaic. you lied in this claim just as you are way off about what you say by your lips while rejecting the truth of God in your monotheistic and submission claims.

The Jews were told of prophets after Moses [as]. They found way to reject Jesus. Rejection of Jesus is also rejection of Moses who they claim to be following. Moses didnt tell them that God said they should pray to a wall and stuck patters with writing on 'em in its cracks. I will leave you think about how dubious their claim is.

The Christians claim that Jesus is God while he told his companions that he was a messenger of God. How is God also the messenger of God or how is the messenger of God is God? no one told you to worship in the way you do as if you are in a nightclub since disco is been dead for over 30 years. you have no concept of fasting. you follow the hardship of jews while God has made fasting easy. you created a manner of salvation that ignores God the ONLY SAVER.

both of you are still monotheistic and submitting to God, you think? saying does not mean it is. wishing it does not making it so. you are now the husband of bianca ojukwu does not make it so because i said you are.

@sister fatie: the young woman is 17. you said you are already 18. so you are older by every measure of the world and you are in the university, too.

you see the difference between the two of you young women is this: you are still deceiving your parent and you are not planning to let them know about "your" condition because you know it is not the truth even to the ones who love you the most; mom and dad.

the muslim woman is confident that she will tell her parents the "truth" at some point in the near future, not indefinitely as you doing. the "muslim" woman hopes that her parents will accept her new way, Islam.


it seems that she gained true faith and confidence while you seem to have picked up deception and and insincerity towards your parents. what is shocking is that i have seen the same pattern in you that i saw in avecinna, another yoruba grown university man who is an atheist only on the www. whats with you people and honesty? mazaje is the same, deceive all his family both the muslims and the christians of them. he may actually have a good reason because the boko haram boys will deal with him if they find out he has been playing them for the longest; both of them are not since to their "ways". what reasons you yoruba atheists have that you cant even level with your own folks?

@paris love; what will do after the 5 questions are answered?
will you accept guidance and follow the last prophet who is the only one to all of nations till end of time or
you will scuff at the guidance which is Islam, the chairman of prophetic office [SA] and still remain arrogant as if you are the One
Who determines success?

anyways, your presence on nairaland is a witness because you have read from so many messengers of the Messenger [SA}.
Love is not only in Paris, but the love of the Messenger [SA} by the Message is available to all mankind, except those who wish to reject it.

@kay17:

by Kay 17: 9:30am
@OP

You were not a witness when the Quran was revealed to the Prophet, neither were there any witnesses. So you don't know if they are from God for sure.

Can an unlettered man write, no its not possible. Therefore, if you claim Mohammed was unlettered, how then could he produce or read a book of such literary value?!

You said it yourself, the Quran is a not a scientific book, and neither should be given any attention as far as scientific truths are concerned.

The Greeks and Chinese accummulated lots of precious sophisticated knowledge, I would be tempted to say its from God.

Grandma cant read or write, but she can speak. In the case of Muhammad [sa] he dictated to his 5 scribes [ra] what he said he was told to repeat, exactly. it is a book of such literary value, i agree with you. if we stop there we should just say the mind at work is supernatural and if it is Muhammad [sa], he was a genius and there is no reason for him not to take credit for it. he did not even say author, Muhammad [sa]. he did not profit from it or what reason should a human being produce such a master piece and submit to the content so much so he was the best of those who submitted to it.

the greeks and chinese were a people and Muhammad was just one person, showing still that it is a fantastic mind behind it all. and there has not been amendment[s] in this Quran for this over 14 centuries and counting. Muhammad says Allah is The Protector of The Quran and you can see how many quarters pushing for a single letter from it or a word as simple as Qul. all the while the muslims say no.

listen to this nunu.
is hausa language not existing before the it became a written language when its alphabets were developed?

or the hausas of the eras before the alphabets were not speaking hausa and they were speak ibibio?

why is it a general consensus among the muslims and the arabs that Muhammad [sa] was illiterate?
heck. the Quran calls him an illiterate. .


Maybe we are all trying to hide his credentials from Harvard.

what is so interesting is that the illiterate Muhammad [sa] was so smart that he was able to copy the correct statements of the ancient scientists, added his own thought up correct statement and all the while avoiding to not copy a single incorrect scientific statement from these ancient scientists.

Then, in simple matters as writing his own name, he couldnt.


God must have chosen and helped him in this epic feat. I agree. I say he [sa] is a prophet of God. but you are free to call him what you want while hiding your true identity from your muslim cousins when you are with them. then your christian cousins when you are with them.

in my book, we call it hypocrisy when you are just lying to people all the while making them believe you are on their side.

@onetrack and nakash: you guys lost the plot. while i am not a wahabi or anything like that, the story as it develops underscores the prayer of Prophet Ibrahim [as] for Makka and its environs: let mankind yearn for her and let there be plenty of food for "them" the people who are attached to masjid Haram so much that they move close to it.

The powerful of the world until end of time will always be eager to please Makka, whether they like it or not, regardless of their disbelief. what is so interesting is tel aviv was overlooked in all the opinion. the issue is that Makka will always at the end of the day be the topmost city of the world spiritually. and the money people will always find a way to bring money to it because they want something.

sahara can have it wind and sun, but God will make it so that what area that takes care of Makka and by extension Madina will trump all of them in useful and harvest-able wind and sun.

i am certain that the article below is certain for this and many other threads about islam.

in the past i have argued that when oil is not the focus of the west or the powerful nation or nations that are making policies for the rest of us, Allah will make the powerful long for what Makka is part of, Arabia.

the comment of a respondent of the article is so profound that i wish to post that comment first and then the article after:

comment by username jplett
I can't believe they're not already doing this. In addition to being oil-rich, can you think of anyone better suited to take advantage of solar and wind? They have the capital to invest in harvesting solar and wind, and it leaves all their oil available to sell to those who have no other energy resources - or are too shortsighted to invest in self-sufficiency.

below is the article on aol.com news

Saudi Arabia is the world's top producer of oil, extracting approximately 11.6 million barrels every day. The oil takes care of approximately two-thirds of the kingdom's own energy needs and is the lynchpin of the country's lucrative exports.

So how is the oil-rich country planning for its energy needs in the future? By focusing on renewable energy.

Earlier this week, Prince Turki Al Faisal Al Saud, a top spokesperson for Saudi Arabia, said that Saudi Arabia intends to generate 100 percent of its power from renewable sources, such as nuclear, solar, and low-carbon energies. . . . . .

Top Oil-Producing Country Intends to Focus '100 Percent' On Renewable Energy
Prince says move 'very good for the world

http://autos.aol.com/article/Saudi-Arabia-gas-prices-oil-renewable-energy/

@truthman2012:

by truthman2012: 12:25pm On Oct 27
Sweenecta

I omitted the issue of Mohammed's take-over of Zaid's wife in the candid opinion I expressed on this thread.

I wish to state that it was morally bad for Mohammed to do such a thing. It was also an injustice to Zaid. How would he feel seeing his wife with his master? This was why Mohammed abolished children adoption for Zaid to go away from the house.

orally bad according to you or you are God now? You do not now the story of Zayd [ra] or that of Zaynab [ra] and how they became husband and wife. The one who married Zaynab to Zayd is the one who paid her dowry and knew her as a child and if he wanted her at anytime before she was married would have taken her. If during are first year or anytime for himself would have. But he didnt and his marriage to her was a reluctant one except that it was by divine decree from God. Read it again in the Quran and you will notice that God says you not desire it to be so. Muhammad [sa] the virgin at 25 will not be wild at 50 years when he is now the established messenger of God. God wished to abolish fake family set up and who is best that it should be abolished upon but the carrier of the message?

When David took the wife of Uriah, God was not pleased with him (2 Samuel Chapter 11 & 12). Therefore the same God could not have commanded Mohammed to do the same thing.

noticed that you said God blamed David. Maybe because there was nothing of good established from it and it was not a command from Him.But the case of Muhammad [sa] it was a command and a law was to be established. I say God did not blame Muhammad [sa] because there was a reason for it abolishing adoption.

Why would Allah command Mohammed who had many wives to take the only one belonging to Zaid? What is Allah's interest in it?

to abolish a fake family arrangement and to establish an everlasting law against it. I have a personal story on this matter. Last year my wife adopted a teenage girl in Lagos. before long while my wife was out of the country for assignment, she was sneaking out with some neighborhood boy who got her pregnant. my wife's mother didnt know what she was doing and i do not live in 9ja except that i talked to her about how to be a success so that we can be happy for her. well. she was different from my wife her fake mother. she was unlike anything of her family or mine. that tells you that adoption is never a true family setting. you have to let people carry their family name and blood.

Mohammed was first afraid because he and the people knew it was moraly wrong to do such a thing.

the fact that Muhammad [sa] was "afraid" shows that he had nothing to say but obey his Lord. Was Zayd [RA] or Zaynab [RA] afraid of Muhammad [sa] and not mindful of Allah? Who do you think turned the hearts of the former husband and wife upside down so that divorce can happen? When Muhammad [AS} and until those people and many generations died and you people took up the cause of maligning, there was no maligning of the event.

But Allah forced him. Why? This shows the type of Being this Allah is.

you are on your own here just the same way you are on your own because you also claim that Yahweh forced Jesus to die by presenting himself to those killers, even after he had prayed to Yahweh so that he be spared from being killed by hanging.

Jesus said it is wrong to divorce a woman except for fornication and whoever maries a divorced woman commits adultery (Mathiew 19:9).

this is so dumb. have you seem knowledge from it except blindness and denial of reality?

A holy prophet is required to be transparently holy.

Muhammad [sa] is on the path of Ibrahim [as].

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Sweetnecta:

You are already seeing my posts as ''fighting agains islam''. It is not so. I am only trying to convince as many as possible.

by you not thinking, so you flood "them" with what you pick up from gutter so that at the end they will accept 3 Gods Who are all 1 God and one of the 3 dies off and they are still 3 making up 1 all the way? welcome, you got mail, you got it really made.

You will agree with me that a lot has been said against christianity and Jesus and we do not see them as a fight. Muslims said Jesus was not killed but God made it to appear so to them, which by implication it means the whole of christiandom is deceived by God.

first when the incident that is "made to appear so" was being played out as in happening there, there was nothing called christianity. who were being referred to as them in the "it so appear so to them" but the people at the scene bent on killing Jesus? God made them felt satisfied of their evil deed while Jesus enjoyed the Protection and was secured away from the "them", in the same matter that Abraham was in the fire that nimerod threw him. so that you may be willing to admit ignorance or at least begin to think, did Yahweh deceive Pharaoh with so many miracles until he drowned in the last? God makes the rule and only immoral mind will say i can play it differently and it will be better.

They say Jesus was a murderer because he surrender himself to death and so many terrible things.

said Jesus was a murderer because if anyone has delivered himself to his own killer you will say he committed suicide and that is self murdering and people like that are murderers.

But we do not see it as fighting against christianity.

you dont care for Jesus. all you do is lip serves. his rules you dont follow. his suggestion you reject for the opinions of Paul. his religion you abandon, including the way he worshiped. the noble soul he promised will come after him for sure you made to a ghost so that you will not have to follow the right human being that is The Another Comforter. you are like donald trump with your bull dung.

Everyone has the right to express his/her opinion in a peaceful manner.

including lying as you have? come on.

Friend, we are talking about eternity where there is no second chance. I want to advise you to post as many criticisms as you have the ability to do to convince and convert as many as possible to your religion if you believe in it. Don't mind what people will say or do. Try your best possible for God to see you have done your part provided you do not harm anybody because two wrongs don't make a right. We cannot afford to harm those we ought to save. Warn as many as you have opportunity to warn.

this is the only truth i have read from you. so how do you know what is truth, except what comes from God Almighty? I worship nor what you worship. to you your way to me mine.

Our common enemy is satan and it is he we should fight and not ourselves. When we fight ourselves we give him joy. When we kill ourselves we promote his kingdom and supply the blood he needs.

i say curses on satan daily. i ask God not to let him deceive me or even to come to my presence. i make this prayers for me, all muslims and those who will be muslims. Amin.

Thank God that both christians and muslims believe there is satan and that every bad work is from him. I have preached to an educated 'ifa priest' who said satan does not exist. So because we both believe there is satan, let us join hands to fight him the way we know because he could be hiding anywhere.

Thanks.

i ask God to render the plan of satan worthless for all so that we are on the straight path that God commands us to Him.

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by truthman2012: 8:35pm On Oct 24
Sweetnecta

This is my candid opinion about the thread. I believe exchange of opinions should not cause hate as civilized people. There are many foreign websites where this type of religious debate is on-going but they take it with maturity.

You said a slave woman could have se.xual desire like a free woman. This is very true but if there was that sympathy for them, why not free them?

you free your enemy who you have just fed to strength from starvation, while the way is still going on so that she can fight you along those people who are still fighting you, and if the war is over and his people are disseminated that she now becomes a beggar or any number of bad things she is capable of doing that must be done to survive? you must not be practical or thinking or both. what if its a woman that is stunningly beautiful? you will turn her out to fend for herself when the wolves will tear her apart, while it is better she is secured with you as a legal wife or what your right hand possess until God makes a way for her or both of you?

The fact that they are slave does not mean having se.x with them is not a sin.

who sets up the rule of committing sin, you or God? since we are talking about sex, lets stay on it. Yahweh told the children of israel to keep the virgins for themselves? how did they know who was virgin and who is not except testing the matter and what a an to do with virgin? was Yahweh committing sin or will the children of israel committing sin if they do or dont do what Yahweh said they should do? please provide your opinion or answer directly. its your bibles and i will use them, InshaAllah to tal to your conscience.

What do you call fornication and adultery? It is se.xual relationship outside marriage.

whatever make permissible is not a sin when He makes it permissible, even if it is a sin at other times. bowing of Jacob and his family to Joseph was not a sin as it is permitted by God that the dream of a prophet is true. other bowing to a king or god is a sin before God. when God says the se.xual relationship with what your right hand possess is permissible, it will not be fornication or adultery.

I believe br.east-feeding a grown man is not ideal because it cannot turn an adopted son into a real son biologically or spiritually. Such practice is meant for se.xual pleasure.

i already said it was made up by people of your thinking to score a cheap shot. Muhammad [sa] has shaped me to a better man when it is my peers in 9ja are the sugar daddies and the so called aristocrats of the "aristo" jargon. i do not do what is not mine from islamic point, regardless of how pretty and how eager she wanna serve the menu.

A man of God is not expected to be too much interested in se.x.

this here nullifies the children of God humping the daughters of men to mae them produce babies and the holy ghost mounting young girl Mary to produce Jesus her son as godly and Godhead respectively.

It reduces a man's spirituality and that is why when doing any spiritual excercise (like fasting), God people abstain from se.x.

you people make your own fasting rule. show me where God told you to fast and what you must do in your fast and what how long during the day is your fast? you people are making things up as you go. how then can you sell anyone the rule of anything spiritual for the pleasure of God?

It may be strange to you that excessive se.xual urge is demonic. God knew one woman is enough for a man and that was why He created only Eve for Adam. If there was any man who needed many wives it was Adam because he was the only person on earth and God wanted him to reproduce and fill the earth. You will agree with me that God has the ability to create many wives for Adam but He did not. This is why Jesus approved of only one wife.

you are thinking with your head under your feet. Jesus didnt approve anything of marriage of one wife or whatnot for you christians. stop freaking me out with your not so true statement. and you have the audacity to condemn Abraham, Jacob and others who had more than 1 wife, yet you claim your religion is abrahamaic? You use Psalm of David to protect yourself from satan while David had many wives.

If a man cannot be satisfied with one woman like Adam, something is wrong. Afterall Jesus had none.

dont make me laugh. you seem naive. The Adam you hate and the Jesus you are forcing to be what he is not? i will leave this at that without going further with any analysis of the two of them including matters of se.x.

To God, sin is not only worshiping idol and disbelief in His existence. God hates se.xual sin as much as idolatery. God said ''be ye holy for I am holy''.

and God created man and woman so that they could be husband and wife and make babies. stop the weak thinking.

logicboy03 thinks he is making a good point. is there in the "jewish scriptures" where they are commanded to pray to a ruined wall?
if not, know for sure that neither Moses nor Jesus was jewish by religion but muslims because they used to make compulsory daily prayers whereby they stood, prostrated and bowed. Mary the mother of Jesus was told in the Quran to join those who pray in standing, then prostrating and bowing.

muslims stand, bow and prostrate even today.

omo alata pelu gbogbo aako e, aashe oojo nie.

animal should not be killed in front of another animal.

the ethics of slaughter includes being merciful and compassionate to the animal, throughout its life and up slaughter.
you should not it see blood of slaughtered animal and the knife must be sharp so that the cut resulting to killing it must be quick sort of almost painless, like taking injection.