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They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.
I have left the verses in full context so everyone can see the entire intent of the verses....
The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, forpersecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast TERROR into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other.Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) -"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - ". Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (iNot equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, andthose who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their personsn Faith) Hath Allah promised good:But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

I am sick and tired of Muslims and Liberals coming to NL and spewing their lies of the religion. So I took some time and found actual quotes from the Quran. Heres some facts to dispel the myth of a peaceful religion...
People dont let the Muslims lie to you about their way of life and belifs...
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text[color=#990000][/color]

The best leader in Nigeria yet! Hmmm! But Baba you too chop money no be small!

There no eclipse here in Kwara!

Let him defend where its written in the quran where 'God' caused hailstones to fall in aid of mohamed's conquest of the Jews.so if they're not pagan as claimed by you why would that happen? Please you said the Holy Bible has been tampered with...give me your proof and I'll show you your error!

Up Chelsea! Lets make it routine win!

Hello forum! Tomorow we'll know whether I won the contest,made the top 3 or fell out! I pray I win oh.You'll will be the first to know. Meanwhile how's your weekend going? Team Chelsea lets go support our Blue nation.how many likes do I get?

Friends please I regret my last post...I saw it somewhere in the forum...but I've been corrected.when Brenda come around she'll tell us.in the mean time,stop speculating.

i dont folow the show any more buh i congratulate the winner! kudos!

vcvibes: Swift boy na ur turn

soo sorry I waited to drop my own.I DOUBLE DARE THE HOUSE TO GET THIS RIGHT!

Deiok: I believe you have already won it, so dont forget my share from the prize.

amen oh! But I dont know why its taking them forever to release the final result.how you dey?

I heard Idowu is here na im make i come!

I've heard the rumour that her boyfriend asked her to deactivate her account or they will break up! Hmmm! If having compelled her to forsake us,the good friends she made here on Nl the guy no marry her...I swear! Ok I reserve my comment.

[quote author=Ammanda ]^ which road?

Lalaboi, how did I loos u?

Swiftboi, tank you.
Get it started already
May I meet you?[/quote]not here! Are you on facebook and or twitter? Follow me @IamSwiftboy and tweet Kfb at me.on facebook simply search for Swiftboy,add the first person you see...thats me.

I think its a neurological disorder. A comprehensive research into the root cause of the brain disorder can help eliminate pain without the use of drugs and to find an alternative way of helping the disorder! I think it'll have been better if it the disorder start as the surferrers grow and not a birth disorder.

I think its a neurological disorder. A comprehensive research into the root cause of the brain disorder can help eliminate pain without the use of drugs and to find an alternative way of helping the disorder!

No You dont No You dont

And when will season 2 be out! Men that film rocks! Hello Nomski!

[quote author=Ammanda ]Hello swiftboy mmm u see what I saw, the thread is moving faster than train

Lalaboi, u to dey forget[/quote]yes my lady! I like your name! Can I get to know you?

Smh I just cant keep up to this thread! Haha una just dey jump pages any how.this is the most active thread on NL. Hello Amanda!

Lol you ladies dont know alot about us! The most attractive of all character a man will ever want in a woman is ability to submit to her man! But beauty is what get our attention...be intelligent,be flirtitious and lively.be dutiful and respectful.Good cook and homely.the rest are minor things.

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I love Nomski

Congratulations to the winners!

I dont think its ideal! That spot's too sensitive for any touch...she's likely to get wet already.smh what kind of prayer's that.

tintingz: Rubbish! I don't have to reply this.

Islam came to the yoruba land through trade, the yorubas accept Islam when they were trading with the arabs.

does the name Danfodio ring any bell to you? I insist you Explain quran 8! Oh oh you self know.smh

tintingz: Adolf hitler was a christian fighting crusade for jehova...read his speech

[b]• Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. (p. 65)

• And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God. (p. 174)

• His [the Jewish person's] life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took to the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In retum, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties — and this against their own nation. (p. 307)

• Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise. (p. 383)

• The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will. (p. 562)

• As far as this variety of ‘folkish’ warriors, are concerned, I can only wish the National Socialist movement and the German people with all my heart: "Lord, preserve us from such friends, and then we can easily deal with our enemies." (p. 565)[/b]

www.en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitlers_religious_views

Hitler fought crusade for jehova

Christians means followers of Christ! Read everything Jesus expect us to do a believers and get back to me! You're quoting Adolf hitlar who wanted to conquer the world,who killed the imbeciles and the less priviledges,mind you not only the Jews! Each time you type,make sure you think very well.all those that has ever killed in the name of Christianity does not know Christ.Read what Christ says to those that follow Him.oh yes Its in the quran that infidels are to be killed...go get your gun or shut your trap!

tintingz: Does this happen in the south west??

Was it agbani? You failed you just show that your are liar

An eye for an eye and you said christianity is peace and love "turn the other cheek" irony

is that why christians eat muslims?

hahahahaha!!! you are a clown spitting rubbish of the lowest IQ

Go and meet your private jet bling bling gangstar oritsejafor the christian warLord to tell how he's a political tools and brainwashing nigeria christians with lies.

Now I see you cant reason that much! You're not defending your religion of violence...you are just only here to abuse and show your folly!

mohsaaf: Wt about d CRUSADERS.d inocent soul they destroy all in d name chritianity trying to follow the teaching of d BIBLE.
Ds re jst few frm d atrocities CHRITIANITY hv been wagin on HUMANITY.

Get this right! We're not making an argument on whether its a Christian that commit a crime or a muslim.our arguement is which one of the two religions out-rightly made provisions for violence and killings just to propagate its spreading.now Jesus did not say go into the world and kill those that reject my saying...dont forget we're Christians cos we follow Him.As for Islam,there're passages upon passages that one can call violent enough.

tintingz: have study Islam? And how was Islam spread to the yoruba land?

were you not in Nigeria when boko haram killed almost 48 muslims in the mosque?

Why are you using boko haram speech to speak for all muslims? Were you not in nigeria when christians are eating muslims?

dumbest post

women not driving is not part of sharia law but the saudi culture.

Head Of Saudi Religious Police: Sharia Doesn't Ban Women From Driving
www.nairaland.com/1477393/head-saudi-religious-police-sharia

Sharia does not ban women from driving in UAE, Qatar, iraq etc women drive cars this are also sharia law country.

you just expose your ignorant for posting lies, ypu be the one to do some study.

well am not gona blame you for your ignorance and blindness to the truth! Those muslims that were killed did not support their course is that a lie against them also? Recall Shekau told the Northern leaders to shut their mouths that they dont read their quran! Oh yes JEHOVAH mandated the Israelites to violently fight for and occupy the land HE promised their fore-fathers.And please also note they were also killed whenever they erred against GOD...now all these where one of the reasons God sent Christ to atone for sins of the world.As for the bible you para-phrased about what Jesus said,yes we as Christians are expected to be hated by those that dont believe in the gospel we preaches just as Godwin was killed then.Read what Christ said to His followers about how to go about spreading the gospel.You make a mess of your faith the more you try to defend islam and its tendency to be a brutal religion.The yoruba muslim was converted by serious flogging...go read the history.YES Explain all of quran 8 for me.smh and for your mind you're defending islam.shame on you.

mohsaaf: Am waiting pls.no bdy in d house.ok

Wt about d religion of americans dat thàt kill millions of people in tjkoshma.

Wt about the english dat collonise Indian killing hundred of thousand of people.

PLS SME1 SHOUL TELLR RE THEY MUSLIM

wake up my Brother! You have no arguement here! Those people claimed to be Christians but they did not kill for Christianity.BH,alqeada,alshabab,taliban,islamist brotherhood etc all claims to fight jihad against the world they believed is corrupted by human law instead of sharia the law of God. Read your quran properly before you derail our argument.its either you pick gun or keep quite cos you're not sharing tots with fools!

ahmedoba22: for posting something like these it shows that you are one of dose.........what has boko haram as to do with islam

Alot my brother! People are killing and committing atrocities in the name of Islam...do you read kuran at all? My Brother,please research your faith.know what you believe before you defend it! The Bh claim your likes dont know the alkuran,how do you expect me to doubt the same when Islamic history seems to favour their course!