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CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
Fezz:
Surely she can't claim Lagos, unless she wants to entrap herself in a big spider web.
When a typical non-Yoruba Nigerian encounters a Lagos indigene, such non-Yoruba is frightened immediately to have met a superior human being. I feel your pain.

First of all, the city of Lagos can only be argued between the benins and the a awories to start with. No other yoruba tribe has claim to Lagos.
And Aworis are aliens that can not be encountered on Nairaland. Right ? grin

Oba Akiolu said and I paraphrase:
Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom. Lol.

Maybe you should ask her the initial name that the awories named Lagos before the Benins established it and named it Eko. Let her start from there. Lol
Your cranium is full of relaxers instead of brain.

Let me educate you. Yes this will get you mad but truth doesn’t care how you feel.

1. The idea that Lagos island was established or named (Eko) by Binis is a big fat myth that developed from Benin and was first published by them in the 1950s.

2. This is because, the received published accounts that existed many decades before the Benin myth already confirmed that the name Eko [contraction of Ereko] was named by Yorubas. ~ See: D’Avezac (1845: p.26).

3. Also, Lagos island had long, long been named Eko by Yorubas prior to when any of the foreign elements (viz. Aja, Benin, or Ijaw) immigrated to the area for the first time [to take part in the European coastal trade]. ~ See: Alan C. Burns (1929: p.44).


4. In the light of the foregoing received accounts, the reality then appears to be that:

The Binis immigrated to Lagos in the mid/late 1500s like other groups. They set up their own camp on the part of the island allocated to them. They then encountered the name Eko as the pre-existing name of the island of which their camp occupies a fraction. The name Eko then slowly flowed overtime into the their lexicon and ultimately acquired the meaning ‘camp’.

This is quite corroborated with the fact that some older words actually exist for camp in the Bini language, and those are: Ago [and perhaps Oxogbo].

Cheers!

Cc: nisai, gomojam.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:05pm On Apr 23, 2021
Fezz:
You are getting it all wrong. I don't need to defend my history or Benin Kingdom because Benin's create history, we don't tell stories. I know my history. As a matter of fact, I know who my ancestral fathers are.
Well if you can’t providence for what you say, then you’re simply saying stories.
If something must push to narrate a story, then that same thing must push to back up your story with evidence, otherwise your story is nothing but SuperStory.

I'm only trying to help you discover whom yours is because obviously the yorubas best option is that he fell from the sky or trecked all the way from mecca
No, I will tell you my story. The only difference is that I can substantiate mine you can’t substantiate yours. Oduduwa is a Yoruba from Oke-Ora says the Ife account of his historical roots.

Ogiso Igodo fell from the sky and crash landed in Benin city, right? Or the fictional Mr. Idu tracked from Rome to Edo state, right? LMAO!

*... Get rid of your ego and you shall find the truth that you seek.
I have ego. I’m not seeking to know anything I already know.

I am only here to debunk Benin lies like I’ve been doing. And I’ve been singlehandedly flogging all Benin liars for years.

Bring me the guy i your video let me flog his skull too. Or is that guy in the video you? LMAO!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:31pm On Apr 23, 2021
nisai:
Ore wa, how's study? Hope lecturer Tao is not too swift with whip? grin
I’m dead. cheesy

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:23pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
So, this is the best ypu can bring having a yoruba coward like ugbe to be pretending as bini to troll we benins
You really mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE for a Benin person to admit truth? shocked

Cc: UGBE634
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 8:39pm On Apr 23, 2021
nisai:
Na so. E don learn today topic be that. grin
Lol.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 7:07pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Absolute nothing in there...... Plz go burn the midnight oil foryour exam on the origin and fallacies of ORANMIYAN I will see u 2morow.Olodo rabata 2d core, just eating of fish eyes is what you are good at[/s]
Dear Okon with the wonderfully-low IQ:

Take your grievances about Oranmiyan to the palace of your Ewuare-2.

Tell him you disagree with him that Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

He may listen to you. grin


Timestamp 13:22 to 13:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

Bye-bye abeg!

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:57pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Men you deserve the .crab brain award of the year[/s]
Is your lack of content due to your wonderfully-low IQ or another reason?

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:49pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Bobrisky the content provider and wisdom chap.....that chap is a good comedian[/s]
Okon with a wonderfully-low IQ, you didn’t answer my question oo. cheesy

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:44pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
Yes that's true
First time a Benin man will admit truth. Wow! shocked

I’m blown away. My effort is slowly paying off. grin

I’m closing shop for today. kiss

Cc: nisai, gomojam, macof, Igboid

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:41pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
SE is nine times the size of Lagos State
This makes his argument even stronger.

Cc: Igboid
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:38pm On Apr 23, 2021

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:23pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]We've gone past that lecture only seems you are very much afraid of taking further lectures...Why are afraid of reading and learning more?[/s]
You mean that you lectured Ewuare-2 on his origin ?? Wow! cheesy Did he agree with you?

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:20pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Just imagine!Feeling cool after surrendering to abo-kis, who then used them as human shields and foot soldiers in raids of northern territories of the empire.... Wetin Musa no see 4gate, abasi mbok![/s]
Okon with the wonderfull-low IQ: grin

Awayu-rẹ ?? cheesy
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
Well, I debunked your brothers false claims to pieces until he felt too disgraced and fled in shame.

KingOKON:
[s]The present oba of Lagos will swear to this, Bobrisky is just trying to stay consoled with such devastating fact.....what a pity[/s]
We are waiting for the video of where Oba Akiolu claimed that Lagos was conquered by Benin.

Or where he claimed that Lagos kings are descended patrilineally from Benin.

We have already seen a video of Ewuare-2 confessing that Oranmiyan is his patrilineal ancestor.

Timestamp 13:22 to 13:41


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 6:08pm On Apr 23, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]When will you guys get it, TAO12/TAO11 aka the only Bobrisky of NAIRALAND needs a nanny job at the palace of the Benin monarch.Plz u guys should see to that ASAP[/s]
Dear Okon with a wonderfully-low IQ,

Have you taken your grievances to you Oba’s palace?

Did you inform him that you disagree with his origin?

Did he eventually agree with you?
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 5:15pm On Apr 23, 2021
Fezz:
[s]From your statement here it's quite obvious you are on pay roll from a royal/political house to debunk the history of Benin Kingdom on Nairaland whether authentic or otherwise. It's quite a shame though because if you are truly a historian I'm quite sure you will study any historical material that comes your way to understand the true history of the Benin kingdom, but instead all you are concerned about is how to debunk historical facts on Nairaland even if such historical facts are authentic. Thanks for exposing your true agenda to the public.[/s]
Nobody is on any useless payroll. No single Yoruba leader of thought have time for you people’s insecure nonsense. If they did, I wouldn’t even be the one here flogging you people. In fact, it wouldn’t even be a Nairaland issue.

Professor Peter Ekeh once regret why Yoruba leaders left you people to go mad with Izoduwa fabrications and all. That is to tell you that Yorubas have no business with whatever lie you wish to tell yourselves provided such lies help you all sleep at night.

But you said you don’t have time to bring your best argument to defend Benin. Defend Benin kingdom with your best argument from your video you were making excuses. Yet you have time when it is about make useless speculations and accusations. Sha don’t land yourself in trouble like one of your brothers (Israel DMW) did some weeks ago — then came begging later.

Again, don’t quote me if you wouldn’t bring forward your best argument from the so-called video.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
[s]Is you tiny village among those listed below? I'm very sure yours is amongst the ones my ancestors destroyed..Thank God I'm never on the losing end[/s]
(1) Yoruba strolled into Benin kingdom, conquered your people, captured them, and sold them to the Americas — unchallenged on the spot or even later.

Original Sources: Edo people’s testimony to Dr. R. E. Bradbury during his survey of Benin kingdom.

(2) Benin people came into a thinly inhabited part of Eastern Yorubaland. They were met with resistance leading to fightings. The Binis lost on occasions — one example of which Iken lost his life, among others.


How is this description of Benin’s activity in some parts of Eastern Yorubaland one and the same thing as some colonial/imperial rule over those Yorubas? How??

The inferiority complex of these Binis is actually at an all time-high now.

See the attachments below anyways.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437988_418c03a8d3dd419c81d7ca20ad2649de_jpeg_jpeg2abbfbf8b4e181ab73cf348ee588eec1

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437989_045ed0771d62463a8d703dd3e0879cf4_jpeg_jpeg34a2aa281747a0fef8669e287942d507

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437990_60d8f57fe6c24fd0be59784537f37378_jpeg_jpeg1605596d7775e48a81061762f3a5f343

Cheers!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:45pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
[s]Lol, i always tell you, you will always shoot yourself in the leg, i remember i debunked this particular screenshot months back i just recalled nowThey are two reference feom afc ryder on that particular article *Afc ryder benin and the european*Afc ryder a reconsideration between ife and Benin relationshipThese alone tells you the particular statement was referring to the ogene and the various scholars who now recognize ooni as the ogene in that statement, was not referring to ryder 1969 book in particular He probably quoted ryders work for general preview on ogeneWe cannot say that particular statement on ogene by the writer was drawn directly from ryders opinion in his 1969 book but the writer made reference to scholars, which could be anyone and not necessarily ryders now underlying ryders making it look like it was ryders opinion makes you look obsessively disgusting The last time i ask you for ryders 1969 book you began insulting you family today youre threatening your poor family with suicide after all they have done for you what a pity Ryders abandonment was him refusing to talk further on the topic on the location or identity of ogene in his next book.... Not necessarily what you want us to believe that he took a different approach in accepting ogene was ooni of ife.......Professors Elizabeth A. Isichei is a mad lady who would do anything possible to sell her books, i read her article how she tried to connect dahomey and ife to give an explanation for the ooni to be the ogene TAO12[/s]

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
[s]U really don't have sense.. yoruba just like boko haram can only raid poor little villages.. just as ur paper said, that's all you can limit yourself to.. Come out for open battles una go loose or run just like ogedengbe.
Take a look at how an established army from a Great Kingdom fight battles.[/s]
Compare the following two scenarios:

(1) Yoruba strolled into Benin kingdom, conquered your people, captured them, and sold them to the Americas — unchallenged on the spot or later.

Original Sources: Edo people’s testimony to Dr. R. E. Bradbury during his survey of Benin kingdom.

(2) Benin people came into a thinly inhabited part of Eastern Yorubaland. They were met with resistance leading to fightings. The Binis lost on occasions — one example of which Iken lost his life, among others.


How is this description of Benin’s activity in some parts of Eastern Yorubaland one and the same thing as same having colonial/imperial rule over those Yorubas? How??

The inferiority complex of these Binis is actually at an all time-high now.

See the attachments below anyways.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437988_418c03a8d3dd419c81d7ca20ad2649de_jpeg_jpeg2abbfbf8b4e181ab73cf348ee588eec1

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437989_045ed0771d62463a8d703dd3e0879cf4_jpeg_jpeg34a2aa281747a0fef8669e287942d507

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437990_60d8f57fe6c24fd0be59784537f37378_jpeg_jpeg1605596d7775e48a81061762f3a5f343

Cheers!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
40million people choked in a 29ksq and 7 million in 17ksq.. I still say Edo state is almost as big..
Sharrap, you fraud!

You didn’t say almost as big as.

Rather you said almost bigger than.

It was I who corrected your use of English.

And 17 is NOT EVEN almost as big as 29 to start with.

The percentage difference between 17 and 29 is about 70%. How then is 17 almost as big as 29?

Cc: UGBE634 cheesy
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 3:27pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
Chai it is paining you.. your paper only says yoruba was behaving like boko haram (same people tho) raiding poor little villages carrying innocent people.
But below is how our disciplined military conquered your forefathers, founded new cities for them..
Edo people of Great Benin kingdom conquered and ruled eastern yoruba..
Compare the following two scenarios:

(1) Yoruba strolled into Benin kingdom, conquered your people, captured them, and sold them to the Americas — unchallenged on the spot or later.

Original Sources: Edo people’s testimony to Dr. R. E. Bradbury during his survey of Benin kingdom.

(2) Benin people came into a thinly inhabited part of Eastern Yorubaland. They were met with heavy resistance. They lost some of the battles — leading to the death of Iken for example, among others.


How is this description of Benin’s activity in the Eastern Yorubaland area the same as having a colonial rule over those Eastern Yorubas?? How??

The difference is as clear as night and day. You should do better to save Benin kingdom from my grip.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
This is how your people were conquered by my people.. all the towns listed there are presently in about 3 yoruba states. e dey sweet me sha..
Like I said, Edo state govt. needs to invest heavily in basic English education as a matter of urgency.

(1) The quotation (without any original source) speaks of invasion & fighting.

(2) A Benin dullard was seeing imperial colony & rulership.

Who did this to Benin people? cheesy
————————

On the other hand, the attachments below speak of the conquest/slave raid of Benin kingdom by the Yorubas.


I would have expected the Oba of Benin to intervene or later declare war on either Ibadan, or Ilorin, or Ilesha. grin

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
See the nonsense you are posting again. Your post only calls them raiders and bandits. and it's all word of mouth probably not true. I said it before, u are a fish brained yoruba..
Below is how truth and facts are presented.
Yes slave raiders are raiders. LMAO!

And those are words of mouth — the words from the mouth of your daddies and mommies.

From Bradbury’s ethnographic survey of Benin kingdom.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:44pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]Na fish brain her brain na book he dae, if you ask am say he name na Tao he go say make you prove am. nor dae follow am argue she dae argue like lawyer-to win and not to say the truth. Not that it's not there now but because you you in particular can't prove it,she wants the world to believe it's not there. she is a failed soul and a chronic liar.my happiness is that she have enough knowledge of Benin history and she knows the truth she will only delude her self that she is deceiving the world on nairaland knowing the truth herself she would then go in and cry bitterly. selah ! don't disturb yourself with her she is a failed cause[/s]
The worst nightmare of a Benin person:

Ask him/her to prove his/her lies.

Cheers!

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:36pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]you are the definition of madness before he said it I already knew the kilometre because I am not dull like you who had to go and check it. that should not been enough reason for you to raise alarm if you were not trying to prove a point. as it stands Edo is one of the most educated state in Nigeria and we glory in quality education at that we are not he slowpoke and slave tribe[/s]
(1)You Sharrap dummy, because almost bigger is NOT the same as almost as big as.

(2) And he said “all” Ibo state. And all means some all.

(3) Stop clutching at straws and rather task Edo state govt. to invest heavily in basic education.

Addition:
Attached below is your people’s testimony to Bradbury during his ethnographic survey of Benin kingdom.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
davidnazee:
Benin kingdom conquered eastern yoruba and founded the colony of Lagos.. you have to agree on these facts as painful as it is.
I know you are from the part of yoruba that felt the full might of Benin kingdom that's why you feel so much pain.
Evidence please. cheesy

I need the testimony of the supposed conquered Yoruba kingdoms.

Not some self-consoling statements emanating originally from Benin, like yours here.

Tainkiu

Cheers!

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:33pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
[s]This rubbish you post here is not different from what shekau and boko haram is doing in the north.. 1000 years from now a lilliputian like you will say boko haram conquered Nigeria and shekau a hero..
good thing is that people in that time will also hear stories of Great Benin kingdom and its conquests of the Yoruba race..[/s]
No the differences are as follows:

(1) Boko Haram does NOT have a well-defined specific location or fixed kingdom or country

They are always on the move from one camp to another camp within Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Cameroon.

(2) The Ibadan, Ilorin, and Ilesa invaders of Benin, on the other hand, have respective specific fixed kingdoms from where they came to conquer/capture your people.

I would have expected the Oba of Benin to declare war against Ibadan, or Ilorin, or Ilesa. LMAO!

(3) You have no testimony from any Yoruba kingdom which says they were ruled or conquered by Benin.

Whereas, my attachment below is full of testimony from Edos (not one Edo group, not two, not three, not four, not five, but several) who admit that their parents were conquered and captured by the Yoruba invaders, and that their Oba of Benin couldn’t do jack.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:23pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
shut up he said it is almost bigger, and here it is bigger than ebonyi imo and anambra with some kilometers remaining what will you call thatt if not for the attention seeking bastard that you are you should have gotten his point from the get go it is 17800 dummy
(1)You Sharrap dummy, because almost bigger is NOT the same as almost as big.

(2) And he said “all” Ibo state, and all means all.

(3) Stop clutching at straws and rather task Edo state govt. to invest heavily in basic education.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:21pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
[s]Lol, i always tell you, you will always shoot yourself in the leg, i remember i debunked this particular screenshot months back i just recalled nowThey are two reference feom afc ryder on that particular article *Afc ryder benin and the europeans*Afc ryder a reconsideration between ife and Benin relationshipThese alone tells you the particular statement was referring to the ogene and the various scholars who now recognize ooni as the ogene in that statement, was not referring to ryder 1969 book in particular He probably quoted ryders work for general preview on ogeneWe cannot say that particular statement on ogene by the writer was drawn directly from ryders opinion in his 1969 book but the writer made reference to scholars, which could be anyone and not necessarily ryders now underlying ryders making it look like it was ryders opinion makes you look obsessively disgusting The last time i ask you for ryders 1969 book you began insulting you family today youre threatening your poor family with suicide after all they have done for you what a pity Ryders abandonment was him refusing to talk further on the topic on the location or identity of ogene in his next book.... Not necessarily what you want us to believe that he took a different approach in accepting ogene was ooni of ife.......Professors Elizabeth A. Isichei is a mad lady who would do anything possible to sell her books, i read her article how she tried to connect dahomey and ife to give an explanation for the ooni to be the ogene [/s]

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:16pm On Apr 23, 2021
UGBE634:
[s]It's bigger than anambra, imo and ebonyi state combined. when he said almost I understood what he meant technically he is not wrong[/s]
UGBE634:
[s]if it is bigger than three state with some kilometers remaining, it is almost bigger, I know you are looking for some igbo like to massage your ego[/s]
Oga go back to school.

17,000 is NOT almost bigger than 29,000.

If you wrote your English exams yourself you will know such statement is grammatically flawed in the first place.


Anyways, 17,000 is NOT EVEN almost as big as 29000, let alone almost bigger than it.

The only reason why your brother bungled is the typical Bini delusions of grandeur.

17 is almost bigger than 30 my round ass. Hahaha grin
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:10pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
Which sanity.. the traffic is good for business.
I love such traffic which puts little liars in their tiny little place.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:09pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
I told u already u are a lilliputian, in other words a fish brain..
I said Edo state is "almost bigger " that all ibo states put together and the table u posted proves that..
Comparing one state to five states already makes the one state very big..
17,802 is almost bigger than 29,525 km2 ?

Who did this to these dullards? God why?

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