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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:37am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
.[s]The Erelu was interviewed, the Obas own was on this Channels programme that had to do with entertainment
For example this is linked to the Oba
https://m.guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/
I would love to see a denial of this write up by the Obas Palace[/s]

That is a third person narrative of a columnist claiming to be writing the words of the said Erelu.

Where is the video? This is the 21 century — the age of videos, cameras, mobile phones, internet, YouTube, etc.

Anyways, Oba Akiolu is a greater authority than the said Erelu. Yes! cheesy

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:30am On Apr 18, 2021

Simbrixton:
asides hatred and envy for yorubas ur people are empty most of d history you dish out is an attempt for ethnic superiority and that is why we are always here on full defense

It’s actually an attempt to compensate for their minority complex syndrome — one of the many strains of inferiority complex.

It takes a special kind of inferiority complex for grown-ups (Binis) to claim that their oba owned Japan. Yes Japan. They said it. I am not kidding.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:23am On Apr 18, 2021

@KingOKON, @Truthshots2

In fact, here is an early map which pRoVes that Guinea once cOnQuErEd Benin as well as every inch of the W-African forest region. /s LMAO!

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:19am On Apr 18, 2021

Truthshots2:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=386268;0

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13412080_screenshot2021032913494062_jpegf23a56417f048629f93ff66a875ff6f9

@KingOKON, here is a map from your brother which (according to him) supports my reply that Binis lived in Lagos.

I can also provide an actual evidence to also prove that Binis live in Italy.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:14am On Apr 18, 2021*

KingOKON:
.Since you claimed he denied it, where did you get that denial from...

It’s found in your video which you noted is a a supporting evidence for your claim.

Why did the Erelu tow same line?

I never brought up any Erelu, you did. grin

I only asked you to substantiate your claim by providing any video that supports your claim, rather than a random writing of a columnist.

Do you claim the Benins were NEVER in Lagos

Of course they were. They are even in Italy right now.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:07am On Apr 18, 2021*

Simbrixton:
oba akiolu is from the lineage of ologun kutere an ijesha priest

Even Oba Ado who is related to a certain Benin oba is NOT patrilineally descended from the said oba.

And Ashipa (who is Ado’s father) is a Yoruba from Isheri -Olofin in Lagos.

This is the earliest documented account of the history of Lagos per British records from 1878, 1914, and 1929.

Chief Egharevba twisted the narrative on its head in the 1950s and published a new version for Benin people.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:03am On Apr 18, 2021

Simbrixton:
oba akiolu is from the lineage of ologun kutere an ijesha priest

Yes.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:01am On Apr 18, 2021*

Simbrixton:
post a YouTube link where akiolu said I am a bini man na simple issue

I tire oo.

Or where he said Benin owns Lagos.

Or where he said the paternal/patrilineal ancestry of Lagos kings is from Benin.

Or where he said Benin conquered Lagos in some war.

Simple work.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:59am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
[s]Lighting burn you omonile!
As if I never with my own eyes and ears watcned that video
So you a cut and join historian now speaks for the Erelu or what she said in the interview are jargons?
Thunder did fire you that is while you rant nonsense like a Babalawo, do you know better than the Erelu or was she drunk in the interview[/s]

At no point did I ask you to cry me an ocean of tears.

I simply requested you to substantiate your claim with evidence.

Or that you purchase an hearing aid to rewatch the said video. grin

What part of this request/advice do you not understand? cheesy

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:48am On Apr 18, 2021

The lack of influence is understandable. Itsekiris weren’t historically subjected by no one.

Simbrixton:
the truth is if oba made a public statement on the issue like ooni did you for see wetin itsekiris go talk they have no influence whatsoever in warri pay less attention to this bini trolls

What!?

He actually confirmed that he is indeed a slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin.

https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/18#100897291

What a revelation!

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:39am On Apr 18, 2021

Simbrixton:
he is shouting oba gha tho kpere from dere 3 local government area

Lol.

Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:36am On Apr 18, 2021*

KingOKON:
.Oba Akiolo said Lagos is Benins.

No, he didn’t.

He actually stated the opposite — that Lagos does NOT belong to Benin.

He made the statement while replying an interviewer on the relationship between Lagos and Benin.

Erelu Donsumu Abiola confirmed Lagos is Benind

Please provide me such video, not a random writing of a columnist.

Anyways, Oba Akiolu naturally ranks higher than her as an authority.

And he already debunked such assumptions. So ...

But Ogbeni TAO12 probably of Ijebu stock, claims otherwise.

Well “probably” as used here means that you have zero clue what you’re about to say, but you would say it still.

You could have chosen silence and present yourself as less dumb than you actually are.

Go and sleep...Royals are different from subjects

Exactly!

We royals sleep, while you slaves slave away!

Now pray for the Yoruba-Oba of Benin before thunder fire you there. cheesy

Cc: Simbrixton

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:19am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
.Sleep for all eternity loyal subject...the royals matters the most

If wishes were horses, Binis would ride. LMAO! cheesy

We deal with evidence here, not Benin hallucinations.

Historical evidence please. grin

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:17am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
.Mr man you are not among the royal families of Lagos

Yes I am, Mrs okon.

like I said earlier Royal households don't need be of same stock of their subjects
The Benin Royal house rule Lagos, Aworis are subjects

We deal with historical evidence here, not whatever you could imagine.

Where is your early historical evidence for this hallucination?

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:12am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
Fake laugh to cover the hurt..
Tell me something better

The hUrT from your inability to back your lies with ‘evidence’ ?? Wonderful! cheesy

Please wake me up whenever you can do more than a dead rat.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:07am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
. The Eguns of Badagry are core land lord of lagos

No, they’re not “core landlord”. The Aworis are.

KingOKON:
She wrote new history abi. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

The Aworis resided in Isale Eko and paid tributaries to the Oba of Benin
The Erelu Donsumu will tell you that too

“Aworis ... paid tributaries to the Oba of Benin.”

Meaning that Aworis (not Binis) are the monarchs of Isle-Eko?

Make up your mind please. You can’t have your cake and eat it.

Cc: babaolofin

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 10:04am On Apr 18, 2021*

babaolofin:
Thanks. If you don't talk, they will continue to write 21 century history books. I have signed off.

No, you should talk actually. And I do talk.

But to avoid been burnt out, you may choose to make them debunk themselves by asking for evidence. They become stuck at that point or produce nonsense as evidence.

You may also be very nice by digging out evidence to debunk them by yourself if you have the luxury of time.

Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:54am On Apr 18, 2021

babaolofin:
Apongbon is a later name of that small area. That area is called Olowogbowo. Several decades ago, the picture of the man with big or well trimmed bushy beards (Irugbon ) after whom Apongbon was named used to be hung on a building there.

You can visit this link about Olowogbo to get the meaning of Apongbon : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olowogbowo

Idu is a station or terminus . Idumagbo, Idumota. You can Mallams or other people.

When people make claims, it is not your duty to dig evidence to disprove them — even though you may choose to.

You may leave them to disprove themselves as it is their duty to attempt to prove their own claim, otherwise they have zero case.

This is a very efficient approach of dealing with chronic liars such as Benin miscreants.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:53am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
The names already answer your question

Now way! Don’t tell me this is the best you can do to defend your lie.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:50am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
[s]After he had spoken which was on channels TV that the Benins were owners Lagos, what I saw and heard with my 2/naked eyes and ears on TV and d videos circulated widely then..

Why should he have made such careless statement[/s]

Liar! You probably need hearing aids. grin

There is no such video where he said Benins are the owners of Lagos.

Instead he debunked such assumption while he replied to the interviewer’s inquiry on the relationship between Lagos and Benin.

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:39am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
What manner of nonsensical question is that?

Question? Do you actually know what a question is? Lol.

Is it that Apongbon and Idumagbo doesn't exist or what?
You explained your Eko, Oyingbo fables now you asking me " burden of prove", why didn't you ask for Eko and oyingbo?

I didn’t explain nothing to you, child.

@babaolofin did, but he didn’t have to explain anything at all to start with — because you made the claim.

Here is your claim in your own words: “Idumagbo, oyingbo , Eko, apongbon are relics of ancient Benin in lagos”

Now substantiate your claim with evidence because he who makes a claim bears the burden of proof. cheesy

Cheers!

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:37am On Apr 18, 2021

gregyboy:
~~Attention seeker~~

I love you too kiss

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:19am On Apr 18, 2021

TAO11:
How many times must your A.F.C. Ryder screenshot be debunked before you feel ashamed of yourself ??

Please point out one statement of fact/certainty from your A.F.C. Ryder 1965 screenshot. I would wait.

While I’m waiting, refer carefully to the page below for a citation of A.F.C. Ryder 1969, p.31. — 4 years later.

Cheers!

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www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0

Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:09am On Apr 18, 2021

KingOKON:
[s]Apongbon and Idumagbo can you tell how come about both[/s]

He who makes a claim has a burden to prove such claim.

You claimed that Benin named these names in Lagos.

As such, you have a burden to prove your own claim by adducing (authentic verifiable) evidence.

Cc: babaolofin

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Culture › Re: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 9:07am On Apr 18, 2021*

KingOKON:
.[s]Where were you when the Oba of Lagos admitted and even made pronouncement on this himself[/s]

Lies!

Please bring forward a video of such pRoNoUnCeMeNt, not some clownish writings of a Bini columnist.

The only definitive statement I have ever heard Oba Akiolu made in video is to the following effect:

Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom.

No where did he ever assert that “Eko”, et al. were named by Benin.

Neither did he ever assert that the Eko royalty has a paternal/patrilineal Benin ancestry.

If you can’t stand your lies being debunked, then you have good reasons never to be a liar.

Cc: babaolofin

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 3:52pm On Jan 04, 2021

Balogunodua:
I heard their are many Arabs allover Edo state... it's a secret o..Mafo

You guys should stop. This is not fair.

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 2:07pm On Jan 04, 2021

Balogunodua:
I will be waiting to see what he comes up with after he consults the Arabs around him....

Haha! STOP!

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 2:00pm On Jan 04, 2021*

Balogunodua:
I wonder where Yod is in the text you provided ABI na me no see am well no or

He’s only testing the waters to see how far he can go with his latest attempt at self-consolation.

To be very apt, he’s only being insecure. It’s written all over his life. The name “Edo” of his people wasn’t known in writing until recently.

Yet you want him to admit the plain fact starring hard at his face showing that “Yoruba” appears in writing since the year 1615. grin

A Bini boy with a naturally huge baggage of inferiority complex for that matter. cheesy

We’re clearly asking him for too much. grin

I think he broke what may be called the first rule of academics: “Thou shall not punch beyond your ‘intellectual’ weight”. grin

May be he’d learn to eventually resort to his first self-consolation — which is, to let the “the Arabs around ... [him]” do their job. grin

Especially since (according to him) we must not trust the academic judgement of the University of Alberta, Canada and the Institute of African Studies, Rabat Morocco. cheesy

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 1:28pm On Jan 04, 2021

Balogunodua:
Samuk....is confused right now

Even his brother, Etinosa (who is his last hope of deception) will be looking at him like:

Samuk you well so?? To collect disgrace no dey tire you??

Yod ko, Yoghurt ni. cheesy

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Culture › Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by TAO12: 1:24pm On Jan 04, 2021

Balogunodua:
We know already...

Great!

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 2:09am On Jan 04, 2021*

Samuk -The Fraud;

Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the name of our ethno-linguistic group, ”Yoruba”.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even the late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group ”Edo”??

Now, na to dey luku-luku. cheesy

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Culture › Re: Oni Was A Chief Priest by TAO12: 2:05am On Jan 04, 2021*

samuk:
I actually proved that the word Yoruba didn't exist in the 16th century. Your so called 16th century Arabic translation has just be proven for the world to see as Fraud.

Only dummies will take your so called Arabic, Coptic translations serious going forward.

I repeat, the word or name, Yoruba didn't exist until 1808.

Samuk-The-Fraud, you are generalizing hastily (that every human being is a dullard) based on your interactions with Binis. ROTFL!

No! Unlike Binis, everyone else isn’t a dullard. grin

You desperately wish the word “Yoruba” began in 1808. Don’t you? grin

But what about the fact that wishes aren’t horses?? LMAO! cheesy

You typed in "Yoruba" into Google translate, and Google translate immediately disclaimed to you that the Arabic equivalence within its database is of the word "Alyuruba".

Yet you adamantly ran along (lying to yourself) that Google translate returned an Arabic equivalence of the word "Yoruba". If only Google translate could slap humans. grin

In the embedded screenshot below, the input ["Yoruba"] which you fed into Google translate is highlighted in green.

The disclaimer ["Alyuruba"] issued as a warning to you by Google translate is highlighted in red.

And the Arabic equivalence of the disclaimer ["Alyuruba"] is highlighted in blue.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934269_69eb78c3f1d04531b88acc6241be1444_jpeg_jpegad22044753f2d5e785cc7c949bb65836

Samuk-The-Fraud, I think the "Arabs around ... [you]" should do the job as you’ve initially consoled yourself. Hahaha!

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