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CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:06pm On Apr 23, 2021
Truthshots2:
@seun @mynd44 : alternate handle, this is tao11 who was recently banned for harassment.
You’re simply wasting your time to think you can manipulate mods.

I have been allowed to continue here to be the voice of sanity — checking you and your excesses.


https://www.nairaland.com/6510453/warri-succession-crisis-oba-benin/42#101050822
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:37pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
[s]Lol, i always tell you, you will always shoot yourself in the leg, i remember i debunked this particular screenshot months back i just recalled nowThey are two reference feom afc ryder on that particular article *Afc ryder benin and the europeans*Afc ryder a reconsideration between ife and Benin relationshipThese alone tells you the particular statement was referring to the ogene and the various scholars who now recognize ooni as the ogene in that statement, was not referring to ryder 1969 book in particular He probably quoted ryders work for general preview on ogeneWe cannot say that particular statement on ogene by the writer was drawn directly from ryders opinion in his 1969 book but the writer made reference to scholars, which could be anyone and not necessarily ryders now underlying ryders making it look like it was ryders opinion makes you look obsessively disgusting The last time i ask you for ryders 1969 book you began insulting you family today youre threatening your poor family with suicide after all they have done for you what a pity Ryders abandonment was him refusing to talk further on the topic on the location or identity of ogene in his next book.... Not necessarily what you want us to believe that he took a different approach in accepting ogene was ooni of ife.......Professors Elizabeth A. Isichei is a mad lady who would do anything possible to sell her books, i read her article how she tried to connect dahomey and ife to give an explanation for the ooni to be the ogene[/s]
Benin kingdom is at mercy, yet you think this jibber-jabber will rescue Benin from me.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0

Act NOW!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:35pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
You are going too far to those African countries sef.. Edo state is almost bigger than all the ibo states put together..
This is the type of delusions that makes me flog you people’s skulls into pieces.

Edo state = 17,802 km2

The Ìgbò states = 29,525 km2

Now tell me why I should not flog your skull into pieces.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:30pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
[s]Lol, i always tell you, you will always shoot yourself in the leg, i remember i debunked this particular screenshot months back i just recalled nowThey are two reference feom afc ryder on that particular article *Afc ryder benin and the europeans*Afc ryder a reconsideration between ife and Benin relationshipThese alone tells you the particular statement was referring to the ogene and the various scholars who now recognize ooni as the ogene in that statement, was not referring to ryder 1969 book in particular He probably quoted ryders work for general preview on ogeneWe cannot say that particular statement on ogene by the writer was drawn directly from ryders opinion in his 1969 book but the writer made reference to scholars, which could be anyone and not necessarily ryders now underlying ryders making it look like it was ryders opinion makes you look obsessively disgusting The last time i ask you for ryders 1969 book you began insulting you family today youre threatening your poor family with suicide after all they have done for you what a pity [b]Ryders abandonment [/b]was him refusing to talk further on the topic on the location or identity of ogene in his next book.... Not necessarily what you want us to believe that he took a different approach in accepting ogene was ooni of ife.......[i]Professors Elizabeth A. Isichei is a mad lady who would do anything possible to sell her books, i read her article how she tried to connect dahomey and ife to give an explanation for the ooni to be the ogene [/i]Etrusen, truthshots, davidnaze, KingOKON[/s]
Incoherent jibber-jabber as is to be expected. cheesy

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 1:05pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/13437279_beninife_jpeg6a7a60b85f1e96049f54408a72807f5b


Psot your pictures not tears Fucking Bobrisky wannbe
IF you write the words “post your pictures60 times, I’ll promise to post it.

I will count for you, let’s go.
—————————
PS:
@BiniSupremacist aka @Edeyoung aka @gregyboy:

How many times must your A.F.C. Ryder screenshot be debunked before you feel ashamed of yourself ?? cheesy

Please point out one statement of fact/certainty from your A.F.C. Ryder 1965 screenshot. I would wait. smiley

While I’m waiting, refer carefully to the page below for a citation of A.F.C. Ryder 1969, p.31. — 4 years later. grin

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0

Cheers!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:58pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
Go away to where?? •••
To where people can’t stand by their words with evidence.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:46pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
Foolish you, nobody is substantiating any claims. •••
Yes, I know. Lies can never be substantiated.

Go away dry skull.

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:37pm On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
[s]Continue trying to convince the world that Great Benin kingdom did not conquer yorubas.. it's a hard task for you oo.. Everyone already heard and read long time ago that Benin was a great Empire and it conquered and ruled yorubas (your forefathers) for many years..
The igbo man read it, the hausa/fulanis know that, the Europeans saw it, the Edos did it..[/s]
I talk only to those who at least show some tendency (true or false tendency) to be willing to substantiate their claims. I don’t talk to absolutely empty dry skulls.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:35pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
Hey Bobrisky give me space
@gregyboy aka @Edeyoung, aka @BiniSupremacist. I actually caused you to disown your own self . Wonderful.

BiniSupremacist:
Why not post your picture..... Lets see if your really confused on your gender
@gregyboy listen: I chose to post what I post unlike your brother who post his own picture to Nairaland, and then turn around to pretend (as usual) like it was hacked off from his mobile phone and first posted to Nairaland by a stranger.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:19pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
You look sick, i don't know you
@gregyboy aka @Edeyoung aka @BiniSupremacist, so there is someone in the world who could make you deny yourself.

Wonderful!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:09pm On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
[s]Hmm i don't know who you're but you look to vile for my liking[/s]
Sharrap @gregyboy.

You asked me to swear the other day I did exactly as you requested.

Now you are here chickening out (since a over a month) that I fist put my “swear” request out to you too.

So you even know well all along that your Oba is an Ile-Ife indigene.

Why then have you been deceiving yourself all along?

Isn’t that mental illness? cheesy
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:57am On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
Wow why you this vile to someone who you just meant. Is that how you curse.... Please stay clear of me you look retarded. Once again i am not who you think i am
Be clowning there. cheesy

Anyways, the challenge below is still waiting for you. I know that’s why you went into hiding and opened a new account.


Say:
I [Insert “gregyboy,” or “Edeyoung,” or “BiniSupremacist”] do solemnly swear with Ògún that the Ọba of Benin is NOT patrilineally an Ilé-Ifẹ̀ indigene.”

And if my declaration here is false, Ògún please pieces my body in a fatal motor accident. Àṣẹ!


Direction:
(1) Copy & paste only the exact words shown within the quotation marks, but exclude the quotation marks.

(2) Insert one of your monikers appropriately in the appropriate place.

(3) Click “Submit”.

Finish.

Please.

Thanks.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:44am On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
Who is gregyboy and Edeyoung
Swear that Ògún should pieces your body in a fatal accident if @BiniSupremacist is one and the same person as @gregyboy and one and the same person as @Edeyoung. grin

LMAO!
————————
By the way, the following task is waiting for you. I know that’s exactly why you registered a new account.

Say:

I [Insert “gregyboy,” or “Edeyoung,” or “BiniSupremacist”] do solemnly swear with Ògún that the Ọba of Benin is NOT patrilineally an Ilé-Ifẹ̀ indigene.”

And if my declaration here is false, Ògún please pieces my body in a fatal motor accident. Àṣẹ!


Direction:
(1) Copy & paste the exact words excluding quotation marks.

(2) Insert one of your monikers in the appropriate place.

(3) Click “Submit”

Simple work. Please! cheesy
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:36am On Apr 23, 2021
BiniSupremacist:
Lol.... Majority complex for the Yorubas abi
@gregyboy, aka @Edeyoung, aka @BiniSupremacist.

By the way why did you register a third account and yet would still dissociate yourself from it as expected?
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
Fezz:
[s]Did you just say "track down"?.. Lol. The funny part is, you don't have to login or register on facebook before you view the content, so I don't know where "tracking down" is coming from.No need to get all paranoid, it's just a public Facebook link, you are just being ignorant and unecessarIy scared. Easy with the names, your tribe is no better because as far as I can remember, there are cultists, rapists and ritualists littered everywhere in yorubaland and other parts of Nigeria. Be wise with your words and stop being unecessarily mischievous because you are beginning to sound like a child each day that passes by. ENJOY!! kiss[/s]
Mr man channel this your energy into bringing forward the part of the video which convinces you the most.

Comment it out here on Nairaland, and let me shred it into pieces for you here on Nairaland.

I can’t waste my time watching a video that I don’t have the platform to debunk right there in the comment.

You claim to have no time to defend Benin with your best argument from the video.

Yet you have enough time to type up all the above off points and inconsequential pleas.

Ogbeni shift and come back latter. Don’t quote me if you’re not bringing your best arguments from the video.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:23am On Apr 23, 2021
Fezz:
[s]I agree with you. The difference between the Benins and the yoruba is this, the Benins come from one stock and are all connected by blood while the yorubas are connected via a centralised language derived from oyo but they are actually a mix of different people brought together for political purpose[/s]
The minority complex syndrome which led to their inferiority complex is still strongly at work.

I pray you all outgrow this inferiority complex someday. And if you don’t, some of your unborn generations certainly will.

Having said that: “Whatever can be asserted without evidence can likewise be debunked without evidence.” ~ Hitchens’s Razor.

This quotation is for the heap of falsehood you have dumbed above.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:12am On Apr 23, 2021
davidnazee:
[s]Donkress u are still here arguing Edo history.. I told u before, you will spend all your life arguing history you can't change..No worry, your grandchildren will one day ask you if Great Benin conquered yoruba.. you can save your long epistles for them.[/s]
A very dumb and poor attempt at reverse psychology.

Please find another method of begging me to stop debunking Benin falsehood.

I love debunking Benin lies. It is my favorite pastime.

Ntor!
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
For a Bini man to give up falsehood, he must not only be disgraced; he must be terribly disgraced publicly and repeatedly without an atom of mercy.

Also: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be debunked without evidence.” ~ Hitchens’s Razor.

This quotation applies to your heap of jibber-jabber in your comment here.

Truthshots2:
[s]"yoruba" of today is not a tribe. The only true yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom."yoruba" of today is a mix up of many groups of people whom have no link with eachother:
1) the real yoruba (oyo people)
2) slave descendants (more than majority of the yorubas of today)
3) some dahomians
4) the jebu
5) some brainwashed Edo
6) ...
Notice one thing: the jebu used to consider the yoruba as inferior human beings and occasionally threatened to attack one yoruba settlement or the other. The same jebu paid tribute to the Oba of Benin.[/s]
Truthshots2:
https://youtu.be/IIporKrPsbU
In other words, both your claims and your video are false and have been debunked by myself time and time again using classical writings:

(1) There is no evidence for your falsehood that only Oyo people are Yorubas. A popular but false claim without any evidence whatsoever.

(2) Your video claims that the name “Yoruba” was first birthed as a group name in the 1800s.

This claim is actually debunked by the classical writings (of Ahmad Baba) from the early 1600s.

(3) The Evidence:
The embedded manuscript below (of Ahmad Baba) lists the name “Yoruba” (in the year 1615) among the names of some other West African ethnic groups.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e

Below is an expert translation of the relevant section of this manuscript.

This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb

(4) We know this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because Baba penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc

The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

(5) In sum, your falsehood turns out to be a pain borne out of your frustration of being a minority.

Yes, the minority complex syndrome is a real thing. But you have a lifetime to deal with that.

Cheers!

Cc: Fezz, theTranslator
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:02am On Apr 23, 2021
Truthshots2:
[s]What is it with you and fairytales ? Are we all in the 21st century ? Some of you are stuck in the olden days when Africans were gullible.Look, there is no historical connection between Benin empire and Ife village.Also oduduwa was created by awolowo !Even the statue of oduduwa is actually a statue of awolowo !Please start using your brains !How come awolowo manages to dupe you guys right from the grave ? Who gets duped by a dead man ?And please stop creating your own story in your head, history is an investigative work based on eyewitness written documents, it is not s science fiction which you conjure in your head.The son of Oba Ovonramwen, Oba Eweka2 was already trying to leave the western region, his son Oba Akenzua 2 was to achieve it.We never saw the "yorubas" as our brothers and they never saw us as their brothers. Awolowo tried to create an artificial "yoruba" tribe through fairytales for his political ambitions, the Oba of Benin didn't want any part of it.[/s]
What can be asserted without evidence can also be debunked without evidence. ~ Hitchens’s Razor. cheesy
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:08pm On Apr 20, 2021
You have already been initiated as king’s slave.

And your slave-master (the king) said Oranmiyan is his fore-father. Periodt. grin
Edeyoung:
[s]Are you now just a mere troll, youre useless to me these days You can't even prove ormoiyan existence[/s]
Where is the lie in the ‘proven fact’ that Ewuare 1 is a ‘fairytale’ from Walter Disney production studios ?

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 2:02pm On Apr 20, 2021
TAO11:
@Edeyoung (aka @gregyboy), I am glad that you’ve now agreed with me that:

(1) Ewuare 1 & Esigie, et al. are ‘fairytales’.

(2) Non-Fiction Benin kingdom started in c.1850

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13419328_d3c7a1bb374e426f86c4648c8e48a9a4_jpeg_jpegfee34513dbfc90248a63aa98ce0a71a0

I am also glad that your distractive screenshot says that Binis LIED about conquering Lagos. shocked

Everyone now agrees that Binis are chronic liars. Thank you @Edeyoung (aka @gregyboy) for this.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:43pm On Apr 18, 2021
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:29pm On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
Maps aren't about throwing cowries and feathers on the ground
Yes!

So ...?

The point ...

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:27pm On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Two national newspaper stares at you and instead to disclaim u de dance like Eyo masquerade
People that matters have spoken, Babalawo de here de pariwo oshi....[/s]
To what end is an attempt to refute statements that are evidently unverifiable and as such self-refuting.

We will be waiting for the video(s). Please assist Benin to clinch some relevance. Try! wink
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:11pm On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Babalawo plz don't you ever post any map you don't know how to read[/s]
That’s why I only post those maps that I can assist you in reading. cheesy

Or can you read maps on your own? grin
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 12:10pm On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
.[s]Channels YouTube or I watched " a channel entertainment program" , it seems your juju don de fail you. Show me a disclaimer to the above or stop talking like a babalawo[/s]
Channels entertainment programs are disallowed from being posted on Channels TV YouTube page. Wonderful!

Well, I am not to blame for your failure to prove your own claim with a verifiable evidence.

Bring forth the video evidence to substantiate your own claim. The burden is on you to prove your claim. I have no burden to disprove you.

#OnusProbandi.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:57am On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
.You don't know how to read a map, even a blind man will do better than you
Youdonminit! Chief map reader 1 of Benin kingdom. cheesy

CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:54am On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
[s]Erelu personal interview
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

Obas views.

https://m.guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/

On two of Nigeria's authoritative Newspapers and there are no denial from the Erelu or a disclaimer from the Obas palace
We are not kids here[/s]
National news paper or local government newspaper, it is still random people (the likes of FFK for example) with their own leanings that eventually get to write in the columns.

You claimed to have a Channels TV YouTube interview, but your hands suddenly became too heavy to post the video which should settle the matter in your favour.

Bring us the video(s) about which there can be no doubt regarding who is talking therein. The interviews were made in the 21st century. Every journalist in this age and time would film such.

We’re waiting. Help Benin kingdom get some relevance.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12: 11:41am On Apr 18, 2021
KingOKON:
. Thank GOD I get common sense I don't know about others.
Are you saying your Benin brother (@Truthshots2) does NOT have common sense for always claiming cOnQuEsT by virtue of some mere written names on maps ??

That is unfair to your fellow slave of the Yoruba-Oba of Benin. cheesy

Wait! Have you prayed for the Oba of Benin today? Lol.
CultureRe: Warri Succession Crisis: Oba Of Benin Wades In, Meets Ologbotsere by TAO12:
Sewgon79:
Cc: sewgon79, Sumbrixton, babaolofin, TAO11
He has been debunked into oblivion. Scroll it down some more.

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