Christianity Etc › Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Do We Receive Mansions In Heaven? Errmmm by taurus25(m): 1:33am On Feb 14, 2016 |
dalaman: Confusion galore. This is my problem with all religions, just yesterday I saw some muslims on TV debating about what God really meant by a verse in the Koran. In christianity the confusion is much worse. If the bible is the word of a God that truly wants people to know him, his intention and his message then why didn’t such a God cause the bible to be written in a language that can never be misinterpreted, or forged by any human being, a language that does not need any holy man to translate it for people, a language that even a child in any country can read it on his own and quickly comprehend it?
The multiplication table can’t be forged, or tampered with without someone quickly spotting the flaw, any child anywhere in the world can comprehend this table in a few hours, yet the same can’t be said about the bible/quran that is said to be God’s word for mankind on how to know him and interact with him. If man with his puny brain could devise such an accurate system as the multiplication table, that is beneficial to entire world and every human on earth can agree to this system, then surely the alleged supreme being that created the universe can do much better than these antiquated books of lies, contradictions, superstitions, and myth that we call the bible and quran. See christians here falling over themselves trying to explain to each other what ancient Jewish mythology is all about. Funny people. common man atleast allow them have their fellowship time..  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Photo: Is Gay Practice Sin? Is It Inborn Or Adopted Lifestyle? by taurus25(m): 6:53pm On Feb 13, 2016 |
treasureboy: So you do both male n female? Wonders in the world! LOL....it means he does only the opposite sex  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 9:09am On Feb 13, 2016 |
onetrack: If the father in this case happened to be all-powerful, all-knowing, and omnipresent, then yes, it would be his fault because he knowingly created a son that he knew would turn out to be troublesome, even though he could have prevented it without any problem to himself. ding dong!!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 8:49am On Feb 13, 2016 |
HEFAIROHLUWA: Are you a machine?As in a machine without brains? U gave birth to a son and advised him against cultism in school. Did you give birth to a machine? Even if his father is a pastor that everyone respect that does not guarantee that the son will not be tempted to join in school.The son has to make the decision HIMSELF!!! who is now to be blamed?father or son despite the instructions and advise. The wages of sin is death( it says sin-not big sin /small sin) For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Why now blame God for the consequences of ur sins. If God had sent Jesus Christ immediately Adam and eve sinned u would have called him a liar about death after eating the fruit of eden.He gave a simple instruction for our own good and we couldnt obey due to the devil who he also was kind enough to allow free will .This shows how convincing the devil is. lol Keep it coming pal.  anybody would with a little sense would know that the machine anology i used was just to explain to you that if god from the very beginning knew all, he must have known that man he is about to create would sin (an omniscience definetly woulve known) , then he creates man , man sinned (of course god knew this would happen) and god promised him hell  anyways i know this back and forth is pointless. so have a nice life pal  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 1:39am On Feb 13, 2016 |
HEFAIROHLUWA: Lol,compare both and choose the better human sacrifice,killing of twins e.t.c those were laws or moral codes good for humanity/Africa? He is the omnipotent yes!! However Jesus was in the wilderness tempted by the devil of which he could have been defeated by the devil even though it was already prophesied that he will be the saviour/messiah for mankind. Being omnipotent does not mean God will tamper with your freewill anytime he wishes to.So that people like you and me wouldn't turn around and complain by calling him names like a selfish or self centered God becos that is humans for you. Does that answer your question? hehe  someone is talking about funny laws, okay see ur bible “Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.” – Leviticus 19:19 Then look at Deut 21:18-21. It says: If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel will hear, and be afraid. That is a whole lot of teenagers that we need to kill The concept of omniscience , frewill and purnishment for sin is devoid of good reasoning look at it this way if you are to create a machine and you know fully well this machine is going to fail when operated, then the machine fails when operated after being created then you blame the machine for your errors in creation. Does it make any sense??   |
Christianity Etc › Re: 12 Things You Love That Are Banned In The Bible by taurus25(m): 12:52am On Feb 13, 2016 |
lepasharon: Why would God make a rule, then say it doesn't matter anymore? one question christains continually ignore |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 12:34am On Feb 13, 2016 |
HEFAIROHLUWA: As much as I really hate those murderers the bible made us discover that no one is righteous or holy the mistake we usually make is thinking that one sin is small and the other big. The bible even said that if a murderer e.g [Saul (a murderer of even the early christains )who later became Paul ] confess and repent he will be forgiven cos we are all sinners.***why didn't GOD destroy him on his way to Damascus?*** And also what is the essence of you creating a being,giving him brains to think out of all the animals in the field if you only want him to act like a robot or imposing ur will on him without letting him decide on his own as Adam and the devil decided Hello,how can you act like a real christian if you are not a Christian yourself its not possible that is why the sentence if you dont worship me , i will BURN you in hell seemed like that.
As most people may deny but the real fact is that Christians are the ones still keeping the world in balance, despite d numerous false doctrines and irregularities in today's christaindom however If not for the basic and general principles found in Christianity on e.g stealing, killing and so on I wonder how the world will or might have been. what is this one saying , in every human society since the advancement of mankind has had moral codes regulating the society in africa before christianity came our forefathers had laws, rules and moral codes by which they abide. and on freewill look at it this way, god is omnipotent , he knows what has been and what would be, so whatever adam and eve would have soposedly chosen the outcome was already known by god. now where is the freewill  ?? |
Romance › Re: GUYS ONLY: Who Is More Beautiful Among These Two?? by taurus25(m): 11:52pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 11:22pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
tosinjay: Am just coming in for the first time, for the most part, Christianity isn't a religion it's a called out way of life. You people requiring signs to believe,,this was the same reason Christ came and performed wonders and the Bible says those who saw and heard, and seeing the work, believed. Those things happen not as challenges but as will of God to save. Salvation also goes with having the oppressed be made relieved to then at last attain eternal life. If you ask for a challenge and you get it then that person who performs it was a mere magician because no true child of God would go for a challenge. Except he was faced with it from an angle where God proves Himself. Repent ye atheists the end is near!! Repent and believe, morality wouldn't save you! who is looking for salvation abeg?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 10:45pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Supernatural is supposed to transcend nature. That means that it is supposed to create events that won't be possible to replicate using conventional science.
So let someone who claims to know about the supernatural do something really supernatural, like regrow an amputee's hand in front of doctors. Let the volunteer be neutral.
Until then, there's no reason to believe.   till the world ends  no body would heal an amputee! things like that cant be faked!!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Ogun Pastor Prays Recharge Card Into His Church Members Phone by taurus25(m): 9:30pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
lol god broke ooo!!!!imagine owner of the universe sending 100 buks credit to his people    |
Christianity Etc › Re: Isaiah 45:7 And Atheists by taurus25(m): 9:05pm On Feb 12, 2016 |
hehehehe, its funny how christains/religionist always seek ways to defend their 'gods'     well If mere human me finds that im all knowing and all powerfull  My universe would be perfect to all standards if anything resembling EVIL stems up, i would immediately SPEAK it out of existence!!   but guess what , a soposed god looks at earth , he sees children starving to death in africa , and this is what he tells them if you dont worship me , i will BURN you in hell    |
Science/Technology › Re: 100 Years On, Gravitational Waves Confirmed In Breakthrough Research by taurus25(m): 3:23am On Feb 12, 2016 |
Being able to detect gravitational waves enables astronomers finally to probe what they call "dark" Universe - the majority part of the cosmos that is invisible to the light telescopes in use today. |
Science/Technology › Re: 100 Years On, Gravitational Waves Confirmed In Breakthrough Research by taurus25(m): 3:18am On Feb 12, 2016 |
predictions turning reality
big bang!! were getting closer
worm holes ure next, we must find you
love science |
Science/Technology › Re: What Would Happen If The Sun Disappeared? by taurus25(m): 4:49pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
timidapsin: Wow.. we should start preparing for this
Lalasticlala this is so informative . do u think man could last for another 6 billion years? |
Science/Technology › Nasa's James Webb Space Telescope: Hubble's Cosmic Successor by taurus25(op): 9:55am On Feb 08, 2016*. Modified: 10:48pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
NASA's James Webb Space Telescope, scheduled for launch in 2018, will probe the cosmos to uncover the history of the universe from the Big Bang to alien planet formation and beyond. Scientists are planning to use the infrared telescope to search for the first galaxies that formed at the beginning of the universe. The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) will also have the ability to look through cosmic dust clouds to find newly forming planetary systems and seek out the chemical origins of life in the solar system. The powerful $8.8 billion spacecraft is also expected to take amazing photos of celestial objects like its predecessor, the Hubble Space Telescope. [ How the James Webb Space Telescope Works (Infographic)] Instruments on board The JWST will come equipped with four science instruments. Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam) — Provided by the University of Arizona, this infrared camera will detect light from stars in nearby galaxies and stars within the Milky Way. It will also search for light from stars and galaxies that formed early in the universe's life. NIRCam will be outfitted with coronagraphs that can block a bright object's light, making dimmer objects near those stars (like planets) visible. Near-Infrared Spectrograph (NIRSpec) — NIRSpec will observe 100 objects simultaneously, searching for the first galaxies that formed after the Big Bang. NIRSpec was provided by the European Space Agency with help from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center. Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) — MIRI will produce amazing space photos of distant celestial objects, following in Hubble's tradition of astrophotography. The spectrograph that is a part of the instrument will allow scientists to gather more physical details about distant objects in the universe. MIRI will detect distant galaxies, faint comets, forming stars and objects in the Kuiper Belt. MIRI was built by the European Consortium with the European Space Agency and NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Fine Guidance Sensor/Near InfraRed Imager and Slitless Spectrograph (FGS/NIRISS) — This Canadian Space Agency-built instrument is more like two instruments in one. The FGS component is responsible for keeping the JWST pointed in exactly the right direction during its science investigations. NIRISS will scope out the cosmos to find signatures of the first light in the universe and seek out and characterize alien planets. The telescope will also sport a tennis court-size sunshield and a 21.3 foot (6.5 meter) mirror — the largest mirror ever launched into space. Those components will not fit into the rocket launching the JWST, so both will unfurl once the telescope is in space.
The JWST is named for former NASA chief James Webb. Webb took charge of the space agency from 1961 to 1968, retiring just a few months before NASA put the first man on the moon. Although Webb's tenure as NASA administrator is most closely associated with the Apollo moon program, he is also considered a leader in space science. Even in a time of great political turmoil, Webb set NASA's science objectives, writing that launching a large space telescope should be a key goal of the space agency. [See Photos of JWST, Hubble's Successor] NASA launched more than 75 space science missions under Webb's guidance. They included missions that studied the sun, stars and galaxies as well as space directly above Earth' atmosphere |
Science/Technology › Re: Alien Does Really Exist by taurus25(m): 12:13pm On Feb 07, 2016 |
its a probability/possibility |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by taurus25(m): 12:05pm On Feb 07, 2016 |
winner01: ^^^ Thanks for being outdated. Yes, It has long been accepted that Archaeopteryx was a transitional form between birds and reptiles, and that it is the earliest known bird. But Lately, scientists have realized that it bears even more resemblance to the Maniraptora, than to modern birds; providing a strong phylogenetic link between the two groups. Scientists have observed that there is a clear difference between vertebrate flight and avian flight. It is you that needs to learn and stop desperately looking for a crutch because you cant bear the reality of the alternative. It is you that will have us believe that dinosaurs turned into birds. A phenomenon which has never been directly observed throught life. I refuse to go back and forth with you because your desperation is clear. Ill simply refer you to one of cloudgoddess favourite sites to read up how the archaeooteryx has gradually become an embarrasment for evolutionists.
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/31/archeopteryxs-evolutionary-humuliation-continues/
You can also learn from here: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/birds/archaeopteryx.html
The founder of wikipedia dosent write articles and i made no such claims either. But he definately controls what wikipedia tilts to support and its obvious when it comes to sensitive topics such as this. OK |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by taurus25(m): 1:51am On Feb 07, 2016 |
A transitional fossil is one that looks like it's from an organism intermediate between two lineages, meaning it has some characteristics of lineage A, some characteristics of lineage B, and probably some characteristics part way between the two. Transitional fossils can occur between groups of any taxonomic level, such as between species, between orders, etc. Ideally, the transitional fossil should be found stratigraphically between the first occurrence of the ancestral lineage and the first occurrence of the descendent lineage, but evolution also predicts the occurrence of some fossils with transitional morphology that occur after both lineages. There's nothing in the theory of evolution which says an intermediate form (or any organism, for that matter) can have only one line of descendents, or that the intermediate form itself has to go extinct when a line of descendents evolves. To say there are no transitional fossils is simply false. Paleontology has progressed a bit since Origin of Species was published, uncovering thousands of transitional fossils, by both the temporally restrictive and the less restrictive definitions. The fossil record is still spotty and always will be; erosion and the rarity of conditions favorable to fossilization make that inevitable. Also, transitions may occur in a small population, in a small area, and/or in a relatively short amount of time; when any of these conditions hold, the chances of finding the transitional fossils goes down. Still, there are still many instances where excellent sequences of transitional fossils exist. Some notable examples are the transitions from reptile to mammal, from land animal to early whale, and from early ape to human
The misconception about the lack of transitional fossils is perpetuated in part by a common way of thinking about categories. When people think about a category like "dog" or "ant," they often subconsciously believe that there is a well-defined boundary around the category, or that there is some eternal ideal form (for philosophers, the Platonic idea) which defines the category. This kind of thinking leads people to declare that Archaeopteryx is "100% bird," when it is clearly a mix of bird and reptile features (with more reptile than bird features, in fact). In truth, categories are man-made and artificial. Nature is not constrained to follow them, and it doesn't. Some Creationists claim that the hypothesis of punctuated equilibrium was proposed (by Eldredge and Gould) to explain gaps in the fossil record. Actually, it was proposed to explain the relative rarity of transitional forms, not their total absence, and to explain why speciation appears to happen relatively quickly in some cases, gradually in others, and not at all during some periods for some species. In no way does it deny that transitional sequences exist. In fact, both Gould and Eldredge are outspoken opponents of Creationism.
Lastly the founder of Wikipedia doesn't write all the articles you see there. stop crying foul and learn |
Science/Technology › Re: Are We Alone In The Universe? by taurus25(op): 12:55am On Feb 07, 2016 |
palsenator: Let me help you a bit. I saw where you wrote that UFOs may not be extra terrestrial and I was touched. First, am an ardent follower of UFO reports and if anyone like or organization like NASA keep saying there are no UFOs then, they must be covering some truth from us. Like you said, you believe we have visitors in the universe and I challenge you to make thorough research on this visitors that are termed UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS. No one says they are living but these objects have extra abilities or technology far superior to our own. I can list over 20 countries that have come forward to tell us that aliens truthfully visit our planet. There are top kept secrets on UFO but my brother, don't let anyone sway you away, We have extra beings, more developed than us that do visit our planets and THEY HAVE BEEN SIGHTED but many. If you are interested in knowing more on UFOs, freely chat me up on whatsapp 08188008300. I may be able to educate you more on this topic i dont believe ive said on this thread that ufos exist or may/maynot be extraterestrial. i only said i beleive if aliens are to visit earth it would be very obvious rather than few claims |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by taurus25(m): 12:29am On Feb 07, 2016 |
winner01: I will like to quickly point some simple facts about fossils, one area out of the many oddities that defy evolution.
In the 19th century, Charles Darwin himself struggled with the the fact that the fossil record failed to support his conclusions and he wrote the following “Why,” he asked, “if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why do we not find them imbedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?” “The number of intermediate varieties, which have formerly existed, [must] be truly enormous,” he wrote. “Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory”
Darwin was confident that fossil discoveries would provide clear and convincing evidence that his conjectures were correct. His theory predicted that countless transitional forms must have existed, all gradually blending from one tiny step to the next, as species progressively evolved to higher, better-adapted forms. More than a million species are alive today. For all of these species to have evolved from common ancestors, we should be able to find millions, if not hundreds of millions, of intermediate forms(transitional forms) gradually evolving into other species. And it was not only fossils of transitional species between apes and human beings that would have to be discovered to prove Darwin’s theory. The gaps were enormous. Science writer Richard Milton notes that the missing links “included every part of the animal kingdom: from whelks to whales and from bacteria to bactrian camels. Darwin and his successors envisaged a process that would begin with simple marine organisms living in ancient seas, progressing through fishes, to amphibians—living partly in the sea and partly on land—and hence on to reptiles, mammals, and eventually the primates, including humans.
Darwin acknowledged that the fossil record failed to support his conclusions. But, since he thought his theory obviously was the correct explanation for the earth’s many and varied forms of life, he and others thought it only a matter of time before fossilized missing links would be found to fill in the many gaps. His answer for the lack of fossil evidence to support his theory was that scientists hadn’t looked long enough and hadn’t looked in the right places. Eventually they would find the predicted fossil remains that would prove his view.
As evidenced in his book; “The explanation lies, I believe, in the extreme imperfection of the geological record,” He was convinced that later explorations and discoveries would fill in the abundant gaps where the transitional species on which his theory was based were missing. But now, a century and a half later, after literally hundreds of thousands of fossil plants and animals have been discovered and cataloged.
Fast forward to many years later, David Raup, a firm believer in evolution and a respected paleontologist (a scientist who studies fossils) at the University of Chicago and the Field Museum had this to say about Darwins predicted missing links. "In general, these have not been found— yet the optimism has died hard, and some pure fantasy has crept into textbooks”
Niles Eldredge, curator in the department of invertebrates at the American Museum of Natural History and adjunct professor at the City University of New York, is another vigorous supporter of evolution. But he finds himself forced to admit that the fossil record fails to support evolutionary view. “No wonder paleontologists shied away from evolution for so long,” he writes. “It seems never to happen. “When we do see the introduction of evolutionary novelty, it usually shows up with a bang, and often with no firm evidence that the organisms did not evolve elsewhere! Evolution cannot forever be going on someplace else".
In short, after an immense worldwide search by geologists and paleontologists, the “missing links” Darwin predicted would be found to bolster his theory are still missing.
The late Harvard University paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould is perhaps today’s best-known popular writer on evolution. An ardent evolutionist, he collaborated with Professor Eldredge in proposing alternatives to the traditional view of Darwinism. Like Eldredge, he recognized that the fossil record fundamentally conflicted with Darwin’s idea of gradualism. “The history of most fossil species,” he wrote, “includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism [gradual evolution from one species to another]: “[1] Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional [evolutionary] change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking pretty much the same as when they disappear; morphological [anatomical or structural] change is usually limited and directionless. “[2] Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors: it appears all at once and ‘fully formed’”
Please note that evolutionists would have us believe that the homo sapien species evolved all at once or at the same speed, at the same time, all over the world.
Francis Hitching, member of the Prehistoric Society and the Society for Physical Research, also sees problems in using the fossil record to support Darwinism. [b]“There are about 250,000 different species of fossil plants and animals in the world’s museums,” he writes. “This compares with about 1.5 million species known to be alive on Earth today. Given the known rates of evolutionary turnover, it has been estimated that at least 100 times more fossil species have lived than have been discovered. But the curious thing is that there is a consistency about the fossil gaps: the fossils go missing in all the important places. “When you look for links between major groups of animals, they simply aren’t there; at least, not in enough numbers to put their status beyond doubt. Either they don’t exist at all, or they are so rare that endless argument goes on about whether a particular fossil is, or isn’t, or might be, transitional between this group and that . . . “There ought to be cabinets full of intermediates—indeed, one would expect the fossils to blend so gently into one another that it would be difficult to tell where the invertebrates ended and the vertebrates began. But this isn’t the case. Instead, groups of well-defined, easily classifiable fish jump into the fossil record seemingly from nowhere: mysteriously, suddenly, full-formed, and in a most un-Darwinian way. And before them are maddening, illogical gaps where their ancestors should be”[/b]
Michael Denton, a medical doctor and biological researcher, explains that “of the 329 living families of terrestrial vertebrates [mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians] 261 or 79.1 percent have been found as fossils and, when birds (which are poorly fossilized) are excluded, the percentage rises to 87.8 percent”. In other words, almost 88 percent of the varieties of mammals, reptiles and amphibians populating earth have been found in the fossil record. How many transitional forms, then, have been found? “. . . Although each of these classes [fishes, amphibians, reptiles, mammals and primates] is well represented in the fossil record, as of yet no one has discovered a fossil creature that is indisputably transitional between one species and another species. Not a single undisputed ‘missing link’ has been found in all the exposed rocks of the Earth’s crust despite the most careful and extensive searches”
If Darwin’s theory were true, transitional creatures such as invertebrates with partially developed backbones, fish with rudimentary legs, reptiles with primitive wings and innumerable creatures with semievolved anatomical features should be the rule, scattered throughout the fossil strata. But they are simply nonexistent.
Charles Darwin’s theories certainly took the world by storm, but he seemed to have had second thoughts in some respects. In his later years he reflected on what he had started this way: “I was a young man with unformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion of them”
So could man create a religion with no god? The widespread acceptance of evolution shows that people have done just that. The Bible teaches us that God created man. Evolution teaches us that man created God. Which is the myth—God or evolution?
Louis Bounoure, director of France’s Strasbourg Zoological Museum and professor of biology at the University of Strasbourg, stated: “Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless”
Professor Bounoure, though right about evolution, was wrong about one thing. Rather than being useless, evolution is quite useful if one wants to reject the idea of God. As Dr. Thomas Woodward states, “Many scholars working in the ID [intelligent design] community have pointed out a key fact: Darwinism may not entail atheism, but it appears certain that to some extent, atheism entails Darwinism”
The Picture below is a fish called the coelacanth. It is so ancient. It is over 300 million years of age any was thought to be extint 70 million years ago. It was a prime candidate for evolutionists as the fish that crawled on land because its fossils has transitional limblike features. Evolutionists were utterly embarrassed when it was caught in a fisherman’s net in south Africa in 1938. Unsuprisingly 300 million years till date, it still retains its wonderfully created features.
I would conclude with this quote from Phillip Johnson, law professor at the University of California at Berkeley, he has written several books about the evolution debate. He approaches the evidence for and against evolution as though evaluating a legal case. “Naturalistic evolution is not merely a scientific theory; it is the official creation story of modern culture. The scientific priesthood that has authority to interpret the official creation story gains immense cultural influence thereby, which it might lose if the story were called into question. The experts therefore have a vested interest in protecting the story . . .”
source; www.ucg.org One frequently cited "hole" in the theory: Creationists claim there are no transitional fossils, aka missing links. Biologists and paleontologists, among others, know this claim is false. As key evidence for evolution and species' gradual change over time, transitional creatures should resemble intermediate species, having skeletal and other body features in common with two distinct groups of animals, such as reptiles and mammals, or fish and amphibians. These animals sound wild, but the fossil record — which is far from complete — is full of them nonetheless, as documented by Occidental College geologist Donald Prothero in his book "Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters" (Columbia University Press, 2007). Prothero discussed those fossils last month at the American Museum of Natural History in New York, along with transitional fossils that were announced since the book was published, including the "fishibian" and the "frogamander." At least hundreds, possibly thousands, of transitional fossils have been found so far by researchers. The exact count is unclear because some lineages of organisms are continuously evolving. Here is a short list of transitional fossils documented by Prothero and that add to the mountain of evidence for Charles Darwin's theory. A lot of us relate most to fossils of life closely related to humans, so the list focuses on mammals and other vertebrates, including dinosaurs. Mammals, including us It is now clear that the evolutionary tree for early and modern humans looks more like a bush than the line represented in cartoons. All the hominid fossils found to date form a complex nexus of specimens, Prothero says, but Sahelanthropus tchadensis, found in 2001 and 2002, threw everyone for a loop because it walked upright 7 million years ago on two feet but is quite chimp-like in its skull size, teeth, brow ridges and face. It could be a common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees, but many paleoanthropologists will remain unsure until more fossils are found. Previously, the earliest ancestor of our Homo genus found in the fossil record dated back 6 million years. -Most fossil giraffes have short necks and today's have long necks, but anatomist Nikos Solounias of the New York Institute of Technology's New York College of Osteopathic Medicine is preparing a description of a giraffe fossil, Bohlinia, with a neck that is intermediate in length. Manatees, also called sea cows, are marine mammals that have flippers and a down-turned snout for grazing in warm shallow waters. In 2001, scientists discovered the fossil of a "walking manatee," Pezosiren portelli, which had feet rather than flippers and walked on land during the Eocene epoch (54.8 million years ago to 33.7 million years ago) in what is now Jamaica. Along with skull features like manatees (such as horizontal tooth replacement, like a conveyor belt), it also had heavy ribs for ballast, showing that it also had an aquatic lifestyle, like hippos. Scientists know that mastodons, mammoths and elephants all share a common ancestor, but it gets hard to tell apart some of the earliest members of this group, called proboscideans, going back to fossils from the Oligocene epoch (33.7 million years ago to 23.8 million years ago). The primitive members of this group can be traced back to what Prothero calls "the ultimate transitional fossil," Moeritherium, from the late Eocene of Egypt. It looked more like a small hippo than an elephant and probably lacked a long trunk, but it had short upper and lower tusks, the teeth of a primitive mastodon and ear features found only in other proboscideans. The Dimetrodon was a big predatory reptile with a tail and a large sail or fin-back. It is often mistaken for a dinosaur, but it's actually part of our mammalian lineage and more closely related to mammals than reptiles, which is seen in its specialized teeth for stabbing meat and skull features that only mammals and their ancestors had. It probably moved around like a lizard and had a jawbone made of multiple bones, like a reptile. Dinosaurs and birds The classic fossil of Archaeopteryx, sometimes called the first bird, has a wishbone (fully fused clavicle) which is only found in modern birds and some dinosaurs. But it also shows impressions from feathers on its body, as seen on many of the theropod dinosaurs from which it evolved. Its body, capable of flight or gliding, also had many of dinosaur features — teeth (no birds alive today have teeth), a long bony tail (tails on modern birds are entirely feathers, not bony), long hind legs and toes, and a specialized hand with long bony fingers (unlike modern bird wings in which the fingers are fused into a single element), Prothero said. Sinornis was a bird that also has long bony fingers and teeth, like those seen in dinosaurs and not seen in modern birds. Yinlong is a small bipedal dinosaur which shares features with two groups of dinosaurs known to many kids — ceratopsians, the beaked dinosaurs like Triceratops, and pachycephalosaurs, known for having a thick dome of bone in their skulls protecting their brains. Yinlong has the thick rostral bone that is otherwise unique to ceratopsians dinosaurs, and the thick skull roof found in the pachycephalosaurs. Anchisaurus is a primitive sauropod dinosaur that has a lot of lizard-like features. It was only 8 feet long (the classic sauropods later on could be more than 100-feet long), had a short neck (sauropods are known for their long necks, while lizards are not), and delicate limbs and feet, unlike dinosaurs. Its spine was like that of a sauropod. The early sauropods were bipedal, while the latter were stood on all fours. Anchisaurus was probably capable of both stances, Prothero wrote. Fish, frogs, turtles Tiktaalik, aka the fishibian or the fishapod, is a large scaled fish that shows a perfect transition between fins and feet, aquatic and land animals. It had fish-like scales, as well as fish-like fin rays and jaw and mouth elements, but it had a shortened skull roof and mobile neck to catch prey, an ear that could hear in both land and water, and a wrist joint that is like those seen in land animals. Last year, scientists announced the discovery of Gerobatrachus hottorni, aka the frogamander. Technically, it's a toothed amphibian, but it shows the common origins of frogs and salamanders, scientists say, with a wide skull and large ear drum (like frogs) and two fused ankle bones as seen in salamanders. A creature on the way to becoming a turtle, Odontochelys semistestacea, swam around in China's coastal waters 200 million years ago. It had a belly shell but its back was basically bare of armor. Odontochelys had an elongated, pointed snout. Most modern turtles have short snouts. In addition, the roof of its mouth, along with the upper and lower jaws, was equipped with teeth, which the researchers said is a primitive feature for turtles whose mugs are now tipped with beaks but contain no teeth. help urself here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossiland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Needed Explanation of Evolution by taurus25(m): 5:16pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: common sense disproves it . sorry. but the sense is only common to you |
Science/Technology › Re: Gulf Of Alaska: Two Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix"? by taurus25(m): 4:50pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
Snipes009: You people sha like and enjoy wahala. The fact is, the Koran is so old a book to have contained such stuffs that modern day science just explained. Especially, when their prophet in Islam was believed not to have been learned. So, let these people be. They have every reason to believe in their holy books while you can keep reading your Geography textbooks. Shalom! The Sumerians recorded the movements of the planets over hundreds of years. A Sumerian priest who could read the cuneiform text about astronomy could tell you 50 years in advance on what day there would be a lunar eclipse. They had very accurate astronomical information, which we have confirmed with our modern science. They actually listed the distance between the outer planets and correctly cited the color of the outer planets such as Uranus and Neptune. When we sent the Galileo and Voyager probes into deep space in the late 70’s and early 80’s they took the first color pictures on the outer planets. NASA’s pictures exactly matched the Sumerian descriptions from 6,000 years ago as bluish-green planets. And these sumerians predate most known religions currently. Infact sumerian creation story , worldwide flood story are incredibly similar to the christain creation story the noah flood story and even tower of babel story. And they were written thousands of years before moses was born |
Science/Technology › Re: Gulf Of Alaska: Two Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix"? by taurus25(m): 3:40pm On Feb 06, 2016 |
GloryIsaac: Ahhh, abeg no vex oo .. dont curse out if anger ... nobody get rotten egg as brain ... Well, the truth is that ignorance and laziness has made people relate everything to being spiritual, no one's ready to find out why such a thing is possible.. this is clearly what science does, it goes deep to find out the reason behind whatever that is happening ... Some say that HIV is a punishment from God b'cos no cure has been found, there was a time when Malaria was like that ( it killed Great Bonaparte) ... No one believes metal can fly, today we all enter planes and travel round the world... no one called it a miracle b'cos they saw how it was built and its reason for flying.. Summary, once there's no reason as to while something happened.. its automatically termed Miracle until Science finds out ...... God Save Africa  very true but ive actually seen africans who believe phones work by supernatural means. and also believe whites use thier magic for inventions while blacks use thiers for destruction imagine such mentality in the 21ST CENTURY africa is doomed |
Science/Technology › Re: If Not For Whites, Would Blacks Know That There Is Outer Space??? by taurus25(m): 1:32am On Feb 06, 2016 |
They would eventually know.
only it would take longer than how it did with the whites But come to think of it I've actually seen some in fact many nigerians who believe phones work by supernatural means. and that whites are witches that use thier power to do good things
You can imagine that with such mentality even in the 21st century africa wouldve lagged for thousands of years before any reasonable growth if they were alone |
Christianity Etc › Re: Kenya Refuses To Register Atheist Group by taurus25(m): 1:34pm On Feb 05, 2016 |
SirWere: Not surprised...... I forsee religion milking the masses for the Next 300 years. i agree |
Science/Technology › Re: 10 Most Strange Stars (known) In The Observable Universe.. by taurus25(m): 1:05pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
danies1941: Point of correction. It has not been blazing for 13.6 Billion years. What we see is how it was 13.6 billion years ago. The star is likely dead by now. nice thought......our eyes can time travel in a way |
Science/Technology › Re: Understanding Sleep Paralysis; Superstiton Vs Scientific Explanation by taurus25(op): 1:09pm On Feb 03, 2016 |
great664: Experience it past 7-10 years back. Now i have out grown it. Maybe it happens to certain age of people mostly 15-25years not sure though.
At first you will surely blame it on witches attacking you but that's totally false just an African belief.
A friend once told me that it's definitely witches that he saw clearly as the witch dump 10 bags of cement on his back. Lol, can't stop laughing that day.
My question is does it have any bad/side effect?
A friend also told me that one day he woke up (his spirit) leaving his body so he just shouted that if he leave like this that means he is dead, so he jump back to his body and wake up.... Sleep paralysis poses no immediate risk to those who experience it, despite the fact that it can be an intensely terrifying experience. what your friend experienced is one of the effects |
Nairaland General › Re: Anja Ringgren-Lovén Rescuing Nigerian Children From ‘witchcraft' by taurus25(m): 11:41pm On Feb 02, 2016 |
blueAgent: Since U believe in Science. than explain to me how sperm from a man and egg from a woman will give birth to hand,legs,eyes, and other body parts that form in a woman's womb to become a baby from just a liquid.don't give.me that cell blah blah bullshit. hands cannot just emerge from liquids(sperm) its not Logical. ur deep ignorance is perplexing. really u want me to come to teach u basic biology ?? also its a science fact that humanity arose from the thousands of survivors, not a primeval pair |
Nairaland General › Re: Anja Ringgren-Lovén Rescuing Nigerian Children From ‘witchcraft' by taurus25(m): 11:28pm On Feb 02, 2016 |
blueAgent: I believe in God Almighty. wat is explian myself clear. i meant that athesim on its on contradicts itself and its believes. You people believe only things that are logical and rational right. but yet your very princple violates most of your theories in explanation of certian things like creation. that's what i mean by contradiction explain exactly how is any theories of those are illogical? also say science theories not atheist theories an atheist is simply one who doesn't believe in deities although it is common for atheist to use science as explanations (just saying) |
Nairaland General › Re: Anja Ringgren-Lovén Rescuing Nigerian Children From ‘witchcraft' by taurus25(m): 11:08pm On Feb 02, 2016 |
blueAgent: How did God contradict himself.? so u have not watch Solider ants work. to know that is takes an intelligent being to create that. what i mean by contradict is atheism.believe in logic and reasoning which implies science as the only explanation for human existenence. i dont know how ur dictionary defines contradiction (or perhps u lack how to expain urself clearly) also what is atheism? and before i answer ur above question , which version of god do u beieve in ........yahweh ,budha abi allah? |
Nairaland General › Re: Anja Ringgren-Lovén Rescuing Nigerian Children From ‘witchcraft' by taurus25(m): 11:02pm On Feb 02, 2016 |
blueAgent: Iam 100% sound and ok. you are already losing your cool. u see the irony. U want the pastor to show prove.. but atheist cannot give prove of Evolution,big bang, and other stupid theories but U believe them. all the above theories you mentioned have evidence to back them up , there are fossil records that supports the evolution theory also the background microwave radiation and expansion of the universe as predicted by the big bang theory was discoverd. this is not to say that there are not gaps in these theories , these gaps are things that are yet to be known. Because science doesnt know them now doesnt mean they should start adding falasies like the earth was created in six days claims. |